Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:11 AM 10/2/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: In the Speedy Entry menu, be sure Use Midi Device For Input is UNchecked. Do NOT try to use the embedded numeric keypad -- use the top-row keys. In terms of touch-typing, this is slower because of the reach and the two hands having to be overtop each

Re: [Finale] Speedy jumping around

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:34 PM 10/2/06 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote: Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 02.10.2006 Barbara Touburg wrote: Now I see what's causing the trouble: the second system of a page (from page 12 on) is repeated as first system on the next page. Ctrl-U or Shft-Ctr-U doesn't fix this. Help?

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:03 PM 10/2/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: The equation may be different for different people, but I don't see the utility in learning the insanely arbitrary keyboard shortcuts, unless one has no possibility of ever using a MIDI keyboard for input. Yeah, Midi keyboards are especially

Re: [Finale] Speed entry on a notebook

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:06 PM 10/2/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Navigating up and down the staff with the arrow keys is so incredibly slow that I couldn't imagine that was the method anyone claiming any speed was actually using. I mentioned that autorepeat is set to max and delay to min. I can 'feel' exactly

RE: [Finale] Wandering augmentation dots?

2006-10-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:25 PM 10/4/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Oct 2006 at 22:12, Williams, Jim wrote: No, Finale is not a sequencer, nor is Sibelius... But you can edit MIDI data and save the file as MIDI. That makes it a sequencer, seems to me, but maybe you have a different definition of the term.

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:18 PM 10/5/06 -0400, John T Sylvanis wrote: Maybe I want too much, but I think my quest is not at all unreasonable when suggesting unification such that a package comports GOOD notation, GOOD sequencing and GOOD sapling on par with GOOD sequencing software, GOOD notation software and GOOD

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:44 PM 10/5/06 -0700, Steve Schow wrote: These days, Finale actually *IS* the program that has come to closest to filling this whole. With plugins and notation and Human playback..it truly is the closest thing to being an ideal composer's tool. Nothing else is there. Unfortunately, that's

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:48 PM 10/5/06 -0700, Steve Schow wrote: Well indeed it may have a ways further to go...but in my view its the closest thing.. But yes... i am more of a traditional composer, composing film scores and the like...which is at best very early post-tonal..nothing extravagant. There are a lot

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:15 PM 10/6/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Look at the world of software in 1993, when the first version of Office was created. It offered: 1. Word 6 2. Excel 5 3. PowerPoint something-or-other 3. PowerPoint 4 4. Access 2 I still have this MS Office installed on my old Pentium 100

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:09 PM 10/6/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Not Access 2, because that wasn't released until 1993, and the first Office bundle that included Access was the one released in 1994. You're right. I have Office Professional 4.3 (the original box is still on the shelf -- REAL MANUALS!), which I

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:00 PM 10/6/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: So, it's perfectly possible to have a box that was purchased in one year that doesn't include what it says it includes! I wasn't clear. I have the box, manuals and software. It is what it says. It's the whole package, with Access 2.0, including

Re: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius as sequencer/sampler?

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:50 PM 10/6/06 -0400, Andrew Stiller wrote: Written musical notation is continuously and seamlessly evolving, and its current form can be characterized as 19th century only as a deliberately inaccurate pejorative. You need to stop that. 19th century quirks aren't the same as 19th century

Re: [Finale] Re: OT bekakte

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:43 PM 10/6/06 +0200, Barbara Touburg wrote: Suddeny I see a Dutch word. What does bekakte mean in English? In Dutch to bekakt means pretending to be chique and insisting on displaying it. I'm sure you'll be swamped with replies. verkakte, vekakte, farkakte, fakakta, fekokteh, farcockteh,

Re: [Finale] Wind ensemble/wind band

2006-10-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:04 AM 10/8/06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I should be a little more specific - our wind ensemble uses pairs of flutes, oboes, clarinets, bassoons and horns, i.e. apart from the flutes, the classical wind band (although we do play lots of modern music). If a particular piece calls

Re: [Finale] Music notation for the tablet PC?

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:22 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Andrew Levin wrote: I have a violinist in my university orchestra who is a computer science major. He is interested in taking on a project of developing a music notation program for the tablet PC, where you handwrite the music onto the screen. Before getting too

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:47 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: How often does the average Wintel user upgrade their motherboard? A good question. Since I do the work for myself, family and a friend (all of us relatively poor), this probably happens more often than 'average' users. My own machine is the

RE: [Finale] OT-Bekakt--the End

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:10 PM 10/11/06 -0400, Williams, Jim wrote: The original post was probably blocked because it had no words of english in it. I received it via the list. Maybe things are erratic. I also responded to the thread with the Yiddish dictionary reference, but nobody mentioned that. Maybe it got

Re: [Finale] Getting rid of the attachments

2006-10-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:40 PM 10/11/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: I don't see any attachment on this message that I'm replying to. The listserv seems to have stripped it, if it was there. I'm getting them. They're coming in as attachments with names like msg-7775-7661.txt with the full text content of the

Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:27 PM 10/11/06 -0700, Eric Dannewitz wrote: As both a Windows and Mac user, I'd say never. Cause Windows XP, in my experience, never boots right if you pull a motherboard and try to boot with your old system. And, if it does boot, Windows knows you've changed systems, and you need to

Re: [Finale] OT Linux [was: Converting old files: why bother?]

2006-10-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:15 PM 10/12/06 +0100, Ken Moore wrote: That sounds very attractive if you are happy with a Unix-like environment. I'm just using the GUI. My insignificant knowledge of the Unix environment is based on FreeBSD. Thing is, I don't really want to do any command-line stuff, which is why I've

Way OT by now: Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:50 PM 10/12/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: Where have you been Dennis? This has been the case since the introduction of machine-based authorization in WinXP back in 2001 or 2002 (whenever XP came out). My family's computers continue to function flawlessly because no one else touches

Re: Way OT by now: Re: [Finale] Converting old files: why bother?

2006-10-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:57 AM 10/13/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Hey? I am a Mac person, and I hate XP. You must be confusing me. Who was it kept saying one couldn't do anything with an older operating system like Win98SE? (Other than Eric.) I thought it was you... I am confusing you with someone else, then.

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:44 PM 10/14/06 +0200, shirling neueweise wrote: uh... warning, fill your coffee mug to the brim. Just a public thank-you for that detailed commentary. I wonder if you have ever tried Graphire Music Press, which seems to produce gorgeous output. I used it, but could never make an effective

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:24 AM 10/15/06 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: This point has bigger repercussions, IMHO. One of the things that bothers me about Finale (and if this bothers me, it must INFURIATE engravers like jef!) is that everything in Finale does NOT stay where you put it! Speaking as one who

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:59 PM 10/15/06 -0700, you wrote: Most germane for this discussion is that MusicXML 1.1 can be used to export a very highly detailed representation of Finale files. It is so detailed in terms of formatting that programs like musicRAIN have used it to render scores that are indistinguishable

Re: lyrics spacing (was Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale)

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:24 PM 10/15/06 -0700, Mark D Lew wrote: I think I've cited this sample before, but a page on Recordare's site http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/recordare/SullPina02Sample.pdf shows a good example of the tug-of-war between lyrics and music. There are hand-engraved scores where font width

Re: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:00 PM 10/16/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: Just as a thought, could you create the quarter-tone accidentals as expressions, with playback set to Pitchwheel? IIRC you can do that -- but Johannes said the music was already entered. Dennis ___

Re: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:22 PM 10/16/06 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I succeeded very well to get the quartertone stuff entered into Finale (and I now understand why some people prefer Speedy without MIDI keyboard). Although playback is not really important to me, I do wonder whether it is theoretically

Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:22 AM 10/16/06 -0700, Michael Good wrote: The limitations you mention are what I meant when I said that gaps in translation tend to be due to economics more than technology. The technology is there to fill those gaps, but nobody (yet) wants to pay the product development costs. Similarly,

RE: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:24 PM 10/16/06 +0100, Owain Sutton wrote: Whether it's a task for Finalescript or something yet to be developed, but I can't see how it's beyond the realms of possibility for notes with accidental X to be given particular midi data, while notes with accidentals Y Z are treated normally.

Re: [Finale] quartertone playback

2006-10-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:31 AM 10/17/06 +0200, Daniel Wolf wrote: The non-standard key signatures don't work that way. An octave is defined as having x tones, each tone is assigned to a midi pitch number mod x, with nominals (white keys) and accidentals distributed as you like. In this way pitch classes repeat at

Re: lyrics spacing (was Re: [Finale] Re: score vs. finale)

2006-10-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:27 PM 10/17/06 -0700, Mark D Lew wrote: Ah! Sign of a true type-geek. It was a surprise. And I now have many books about type and page design, including a brilliant new edition of Bringhurst's The Elements of Typographic Style that covers all aspects of digital typography. (And a copy of

Re: [Finale] Finale eggcorns

2006-10-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:23 AM 10/18/06 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 18/10/2006 05:29:58 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a very large body of -cular words pulling the pronunciation in that direction, against virtually none that end with a sound like -cle-ar. There

Re: [Finale] Re: [OT] Nucular [was:Finale eggcorn]

2006-10-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:05 AM 10/19/06 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: On 19 Oct 2006 at 10:31, Ken Moore wrote: Gren-itch is standard BBC pronunciation for Greenwich, England, and green-witch for Greenwich Village, but the inhabitants of Greenwich, England, mostly call it grin-itch. Then for Greenwich Village

Re: [Finale] Multimeasure rests problem

2006-10-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:35 PM 10/23/06 -0400, dhbailey wrote: That's the part which baffles me -- when I see a single rest in an otherwise empty measure I assume it's the full measure since there's nothing else to play. Yes, I agree. It seems this complaint may be a false expectation of specificity, unless it's

Re: [Finale] Re: Piano/Vocal [was a lot of things]

2006-10-23 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:09 PM 10/23/06 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I am not prepared to deny that there may have been typefaces in which the fonts contained proportional width numerals, though these do not appear to have been standard I mentioned the Bringhurst Elements of Typographic Style the other day. He

[Finale] Failed to load VST.DLL

2006-10-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Failed to load VST DLL. VST services are unavailable. This message appeared after installing the MusicXML full version, and MusicXML wouldn't work. It went away when I uninstalled it, but so did MusicXML. I just installed the latest Patterson plugins and got the same message. The

Re: [Finale] TAN: Just how good Google really is....

2006-10-31 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:00 AM 10/31/06 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: search?hl=enq=Akareshnikovitzky+and+Herzenvortragengruber Why exactly were you looking? :) Self-googling? Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Blue theme

2006-11-02 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Is there an online directory of television and commercial theme music? My searches always dead-end. I've been wondering for some time if the tango-like theme for the American Express Blue commercials is a 'real' piece of composed for the commercial. If it's a 'real' piece, is it used

Re: [Finale] Blue theme

2006-11-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:01 PM 11/2/06 -0500, Cecil Rigby wrote: Dennis, have you checked http://www.adtunes.com/ Thanks, Cecil. I hadn't seen adtunes, but did look after your reference. I'm not the only one with the question, apparently, and unless the it's a tango-like arrangement of one of the songs I don't

Re: [Finale] Perc. Sounds (OT)

2006-11-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:53 PM 11/5/06 -0800, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: do horses amble in three-four ..it's been a long time since I've ridden? The canter is considered a three-beat stride. From 'Introduction to Gait Analysis': The three beats of the canter are closely spaced in time, but the third beat is

Re: [Finale] Perc. Sounds (OT)

2006-11-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:21 AM 11/6/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: the Light Cavalry Overture is very evocative of horses (certainly for those of us who don't ride horses) in it's 6/8 section which has this rhythm: 2 16th-note pickup into a measure built of

Re: [Finale] OT Web page sites

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:11 AM 11/9/06 -0500, Gerald Berg wrote: I am embarking on building my own web page. Currently I am on CityMax which charges 20 bucks a month with 50 MB of storage -- each additional 10MB costs another buck a month. How do these prices compare with you all? I use Pair Networks

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:54 PM 11/9/06 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote: I feel an increasing need to digitally back up key parts of my extensive LP collection. Can anyone suggest a cheap way to get these analog sounds into my computer /or directly onto a CD? If you already have a computer with a reasonable stereo

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:16 PM 11/9/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Just one word of caution: CD-Rs are not a very long-lasting backup medium, and once they go they are gone for good. I am not exactly sure what the answer is, does anyone know a backup medium which will last longer? CDs tend to fail frequently

Re: [Finale] Backup Reliability (was TAN: LP--CD)

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:42 AM 11/10/06 -0500, Leigh Daniels wrote: Trust--but verify. Funny. That's the title of my 2003 article on tethered programs. (http://maltedmedia.com/books/papers/sm-copyp.html) Guess we both loved that old guy's phrase... :) And I use a similar multiple-backup method to yours. Doesn't

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:33 AM 11/10/06 -0800, ThomaStudios wrote: I have experienced the same as Johannes. I have several, out of hundreds, of CD-Rs with backup files for clients. I can recall at least a half dozen times where I've gone back to retrieve something, and the disc wound NOT mount or would not

Re: [Finale] TAN: LP--CD

2006-11-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:00 PM 11/10/06 +0100, dc wrote: There's also a big difference between audio CDs and data CDs. I've often seen audio CDs readable on one machine and full of errors on another. Audio CDs do not have the error-correction of data CDs; they were created to play back fairly accurately, with ways

Re: [Finale] Matching new to old

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:48 AM 11/13/06 -0800, Richard Yates wrote: Why not use your usual way? If you enter the musical content in Scroll View then the layout is immaterial to that task whether done before or after. Richard, My concern is a train wreck in post-facto getting the measures to lay out properly and

Re: [Finale] Matching new to old

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:46 PM 11/13/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Here is how I would do this. Create the required number of measures, but leave them totally empty. Lock the required number of measures per system, but don't worry about the page layout otherwise. Then enter the music. Finally optimize. It

Re: [Finale] Matching new to old

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:37 AM 11/13/06 -0500, John Howell wrote: Dennis: I'm assuming that in spite of wanting to keep the layout the same, the composer will make it clear which edition is the corrected edition, right? (In which case I can't quite see the value of following the old layout, but the client is

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:30 PM 11/13/06 -0800, Hamilton Greg wrote: I recently had a client ask for the Finale files for many of his chamber works I had prepared. It's typically not my policy to release the original files. I'm wondering what other professional copyist/ engravers are doing when faced with the

Re: [Finale] Copyright Issue

2006-11-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:05 PM 11/15/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: But the wide availability of the works in HAM is what's in question. If you can find them in publications which predate 1923 you're all set. The good part about HAM is that the sources are fully documented in the detailed descriptive commentary,

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:05 PM 11/16/06 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: I believe this is completely incorrect. The only exceptions would be if the CD's data were not written cleanly or if the CD drive reading the disk were misaligned or something. It's digital data. Data is data, a sieries of 0s and 1s. The only

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Here's more on those standards correction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28audio_CD_standard%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Interleaved_Reed-Solomon_Coding Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Re: Egad!!!

2006-11-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:15 AM 11/19/06 -0800, Carl Dershem wrote: Lifetimes could be spent on what is, essentially, a practical joke. Like the Rohonczi Codex? http://www.dacia.org/codex/original/original.html In any case, I was about to start setting one of my own old pieces from 1972, which finally got

Re: [Finale] Re: Egad!!!

2006-11-19 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:30 AM 11/20/06 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crap, got carried away and answered more than you asked... well, maybe some of it is useful... Yes indeed. The idea of using measures for the time was a pretty nifty idea. Functional fixedness got to me! The rest of it is familiar; it was

Re: [Finale] Importing files

2006-11-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:19 PM 11/27/06 -0500, Aaron Sherber wrote: It depends what you want people to do with it. If you want them to listen to it, it needs to be an audio file. If you want them to open it in Finale, it needs to be a Finale file. If you want them just to look at it and print it, it can be a PDF.

Re: [Finale] OT video converter

2006-11-29 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:07 PM 11/29/06 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a free (freeware), downloadable program to convert WMV and AVI files to MPEG files. (Preferable which you've used and know to work) I've Googled and downloaded several which turned out to be a) trial versions of payable

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Kim has actually asked this question before, I think. :) At 11:27 AM 12/1/06 -0500, John Howell wrote: I have NEVER seen an ISBN number on any piece of music. That isn't how it's sold, unless I am very much behind the times. I'm actually considering using ISBN or UPC for the future, since I've

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-01 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:30 PM 12/1/06 -0500, Andrew Stiller wrote: For self-publishing, you mostly want to get the attention of the two big distributors, Theodore Front Musical Literature and J. W. Pepper and Son. There's music on Amazon. Do you think ultimately it's more viable than the old-school distributors?

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-03 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:39 PM 12/3/06 -0800, Bruce E. Clausen wrote: I took a few minutes to visit the ISMN website (www.ismn-international.org) and found that it is relatively inexpensive to obtain an ISMN (although they have to be ordered in bulk). If having such a number does indeed increase one's likelihood

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:28 PM 12/4/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: That's what copyright is about. It has very little to do with benefit to society, it is something the copyright owner _owns_ and that's what it is there for. Oh, not here. US Constitution, Article I, Section 8: The Congress shall have power

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:38 AM 12/4/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: That's the problem with all this copyright stuff -- it's definitely not a black and white issue. Where would someone find a copy of your old web-page, if you've taken it down? If it's archived somewhere, I do hope you've sued that place for

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-04 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:41 AM 12/4/06 -0500, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Siva Vaidhyanathan has written a wonderful book on copyright issues Copyrights and Copywrongs: The Rise of Intellectual Property and How It Threatens Creativity (New York University Press, 2001) Yes, this is an excellent book -- though a little

Re: [Finale] O.T. Christmas Trees on the Finale List

2006-12-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:23 PM 12/5/06 -0500, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Since there are so many people on this list, it'd be really wonderful to see Christmas trees from your part of the world, so feel free to share ;) No trees inside here until Christmas eve. But I did learn to iceskate at Rockefeller Center as a

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:49 AM 12/6/06 -0500, Darcy James Argue wrote: Lobbying for more effective union leadership and lobbying for rational copyright reform aren't mutually exclusive activities. Talk about mutual exclusivity, neither are commenting on the Finale list and getting a mention in the Times. Good

Re: [Finale] O.T. Self publishing issues

2006-12-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:35 PM 12/6/06 -0500, you wrote: If you'll allow me a moment's more self-promotion, this is actually my second mention in the NYT in the past week. They also reviewed one of my gigs in Saturday's paper: http://tinyurl.com/y99skl Missed that one -- fantastic! he wants his music to make

[Finale] F2K7/W98SE, yeah, I know

2006-12-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, I had planned on skipping Finale 2007, but I have a client who upgraded scores to that format, and now needs revisions. The program upgrade has arrived, and it installed on the laptop. But the laptop screen is pretty much unusable for a large orchestral score. My desktop is Win98SE with

Re: [Finale] F2K7/W98SE, yeah, I know

2006-12-07 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:16 PM 12/7/06 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: There may be a hardware fix for this: unless it is unlike any laptop I have ever seen, your laptop has an external monitor port. Temporarily connect one of your 20 inch monitors to your laptop. I am stupid. Of course. Many thanks, Dennis

Re: [Finale] cross staff tremoli stem weirdness

2006-12-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:47 PM 12/11/06 +0100, you wrote: i don't remember ever coming across this problem before, is this new to finale 2007? http://newmusicnotation.com/TEMPFILES/cross-staff_tremoli.pdf I can confirm it, but I can't find any tool to fix it. I even tried the edit frame dialog without finding a

Re: [Finale] OT: The Classical Archives down?

2006-12-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:28 AM 12/12/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: How can that be, have the classical archives been censored for Europe? It might be a DNS issue at your ISP. Try this: http://208.139.194.154 Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Garritan Sound Libraries and Finale?

2006-12-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:43 AM 12/12/06 +0100, Daniel Wolf wrote: In any case, this is not a Garritan problem, this is a problem with sound samples. To get adequate quality, samples have to be large, and to play them in realtime, they have to sit in RAM. Doesn't it depend on the implementation? I have used large

Re: [Finale] OT: The Classical Archives down?

2006-12-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:27 PM 12/12/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.12.2006 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 10:28 AM 12/12/06 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: How can that be, have the classical archives been censored for Europe? It might be a DNS issue at your ISP. Try this: http://208.139.194.154

Re: [Finale] Trouble adding a natural to a note.

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:48 PM 12/14/06 -0500, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/flat-to-add.jpg The note that is pointed with an arrow (G), needs a natural added to it. But Finale will not let me (I'm assuming because it thinks this note hasn't had a # before). What would be a solution to

Re: [Finale] Trouble adding a natural to a note.

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:19 AM 12/15/06 -0500, Éric Dussault wrote: I believe it becomes unresponsive when a note has been enharmonically changed. From memory, sometimes pressing the asterisk on the previous enharmonic note will work. Oh, yes, that happened yesterday, but it affects not only the * but also +

Re: [Finale] Last word arguments

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:52 AM 12/15/06 -0800, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Well, it doesn't make sense. Sites like Digg, Slashdot, MacDailyNews, MacNN.Yahoo News... All those have new items at the top. Doesn't it make sense then that messages and Blog and Email software work the same way? Following what is

Re: [Finale] Last word arguments

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:49 PM 12/15/06 -0500, Phil Daley wrote: I would expect to see primary posts date ordered from newest to oldest. I would expect to see replies to primary posts from oldest to newest. There are no replies. It's just a weblog, a book-blog, so to speak. If an interesting comment is made via the

Re: [Finale] Trouble adding a natural to a note.

2006-12-15 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:03 PM 12/15/06 -0500, dhbailey wrote: And Dennis' remark that the * key will work if the cursor is on the original position doesn't hold true in Fin2007, at least when I change a G to Abb using the enharmonic key (9). I notice that it DOES work when it's a simpler change, such as Ab to

Re: [Finale] OT: Temporary email addresses

2006-12-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:42 AM 12/20/2006 -0500, Phil Daley wrote: If you have to sign up for something using an email address that you don't want to be spammed on, take a look at this article: http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/web/2006/1204web1.html?docid=6424 And there's also the BugMeNot extension to

Re: [Finale] OT: Temporary email addresses

2006-12-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 12:05 PM 12/20/2006 -0500, Phil Daley wrote: At 12/20/2006 11:09 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: And there's also the BugMeNot extension to Firefox, which auto-fills fields for sites that require free membership. Click on the log-in field, choose sign in with BugMeNot from the context menu

Re: [Finale] OT: Temporary email addresses

2006-12-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 02:06 PM 12/20/2006 -0500, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 01:42 PM 12/20/2006, Phil Daley wrote: You go to a site to download a free program. They want an email address to confirm that the email address you have given them is valid BEFORE they will let you download the program. Right. BugMeNot

Re: [Finale] Microtones

2006-12-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:46 PM 12/21/2006 +, Will Denayer wrote: I am very interested in microtonal music too. You and Kurt may want to research the list archives from this year. There was a very good thread about how to accomplish microtones in Finale, including playback. Dennis

[Finale] Change in applying mass edit spacing?

2006-12-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, FinWin 2K7, WinXP. Select area, choose from menu Mass Edit, Music Spacing, Apply Note Spacing to Current Part/Score. It seems to have no effect on the selected area. Apply Beat Spacing and Apply Time Signature Spacing do work. However, if I right click on the selected area and choose

Re: [Finale] Re: Change in applying mass edit spacing?

2006-12-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:40 PM 12/21/2006 -0500, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 04:27 PM 12/21/2006, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: There's a 2007a for Windows? When I went to the site, all I got was a Mac update. Yes. finalemusic.com, Support | Downloads, search for Finale and 2007. Thanks. I see the problem. Without

Re: [Finale] Change in applying mass edit spacing?

2006-12-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:28 PM 12/21/2006 -0500, Rafael L. Junchaya wrote: But Note Spacing still doesn't work if the current part has been assigned a special voicing (Specify voicing in Manage Parts dialog), nor 4 key nor context menu action. The other spacing options do work but this one in the above mentioned

Re: [Finale] OT: Audacity's GVerb filter

2006-12-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:41 PM 12/22/2006 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: On 22 Dec 2006 at 19:54, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Roomsize is the presence; What do you mean by presence? How does that translate into actual reverb sound? I found that I actually got better results with smaller rooms and wetter settings

RE: [Finale] OT: Audacity's GVerb filter

2006-12-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:49 PM 12/22/2006 -0500, Williams, Jim wrote: What about chorus, though? Any suggestions on that? I'll experiment, of course, but I'm wondering if you have a principle on that? I've never liked it and don't use it. Some people use it effectively, but I just don't. My attempts come out

Re: [Finale] Re: OT: Audacity's GVerb filter

2006-12-24 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:34 AM 12/24/2006 +, Ken Moore wrote: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, don't use headphones unless you mean the results to be heard that way. I don't know the psychoacoustics, but a good headphone mix seems to sound too wet on speakers. One reason would

[Finale] Going quiet for We Are All Mozart

2006-12-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi Friends, I'll be going 'under the radar' for 2007. Even though the We Are All Mozart project (http://maltedmedia.com/waam/) has just 72 commissions to date, I expect it will fill in some more. In any case, it will be a lot of work and I won't be very visible online, except in my blog. The

Re: Re(2): [Finale] TIFF from Finale [was: Re: TAN: Lulu.com]

2007-01-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:04 PM 1/5/2007 -0500, Aaron Sherber wrote: I'm coming in late to this discussion. In general, yes -- a PDF with fonts embedded should look the same no matter where it is printed. Should is the operant word. We've discussed this before, and I've recommended getting the Postscript printer

Re: [Finale] OT: Veni Redemptor Genias

2007-01-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:07 PM 1/6/2007 -0600, Robert Patterson wrote: Can anyone point me at a reliable modern transcription of this chant? I found a PDF in chant notation, but it has been too long since I had to read chant notation to be certain I'm reading it correctly. HAM 120a, but it's only for the incipit

[Finale] Last minute fix

2007-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, Quick one. F2k7. I have a multimeasure rest followed by a measure with a clef change. How do I get the clef and the multimeasure rest from crashing? I can't find a tool to do it. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Last minute fix

2007-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 07:06 PM 1/8/2007 +0100, Michael Cook wrote: Select the multimeasure rest with measure tool, choose Multimeasure Rests Edit... from the Measure menu and adjust the end point. Exactly so. Right there for the seeing. Thanks so much! Deadlines... :( Dennis

Re: [Finale] 32nd notes

2007-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:26 PM 1/8/2007 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Finale 2004 and I need a 32nd note for a complex metronome marking. I can't seem to find one in the Maestro character set. Is there one? If not , other than creating one, I would appreciate any helpful suggestions. There isn't one

Re: [Finale] 32nd notes

2007-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:47 PM 1/8/2007 -0500, dhbailey wrote: On my computer I have a font called MaestroTimes Bold. I don't know if that's part of Finale, but you might look and see if it's on your computer. On Windows, you can use that font set and use alt-0243 to get it. I have MaestroTimes. I see it as

Re: [Finale] 2007b is out

2007-01-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:32 PM 1/17/2007 -0800, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Rebar functionality? Who needs it!? You wouldn't say that if you had a cracked dam 100 feet from the house like we do. :) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] 2007b is out

2007-01-18 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:13 PM 1/17/2007 -0800, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Nice one, Dennis -- but really? What's the story? If so, I hope the dam is 100 feet DOWNSTREAM from the house! And in the meanwhile, I'll try to refrain from whistling Coates' Dambusters March. Please do. :) Yes, our house

[Finale] Images in PS Compile

2007-01-20 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, The Compile Postscript Listing at last accepts custom page sizes in Finale 2007. However, it doesn't seem to compile with the TIFF graphics included. I can get the images by printing to PDF (resulting in the same pukey screen display as in the past), but not compile. It doesn't seem

[Finale] Images in PS Compile [resend]

2007-01-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Resending; can anybody offer advice for a workaround, or at least confirm that this is an issue? FinWin 2K7a. Dennis Hi all, The Compile Postscript Listing at last accepts custom page sizes in Finale 2007. However, it doesn't seem to compile with the TIFF graphics included. I can get the

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