>>>>> "David" == David R Morrison writes:
David> What about perl? Should we bring perl 5.8.8 forward, or leave it
David> out?
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2008/11/msg141328.html
5.8.x is EOLed already. 2.5 years ago.
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Alexander> the appropriate fink version being present in stable.
OK, so I should just wait a day and try again? Or can this serve
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$ fink self-update
[normal]
$ fink update-all
Information about 4003 packages read in 0 seconds.
Can't resolve dependency "fink (>= 0.28.0)" for package
"gettext-tools-0.14.5-4" (no matching packages/versions found)
Exiting with failure.
$
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>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Randal> mv: rename
/sw/src/fink.build/root-postgresql-perl-586-8.2.9-1/sw/lib/postgresql-8.2/plperl.so
to
/sw/src/fink.build/root-postgresql-perl-586-8.2.9-1/sw/lib/postgresql-8.2/plperl-586.so:
, I've run selfupdate.
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l OS 10.5, and then do "fink reinstall fink ; fink
Alexander> selfupdate". After that you should be good to update non-base
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locohost.local:~ % fink --version
Package manager version: 0.27.10
Distribution version: 0.8.1.rsync i386
OK, s
I'm finally about to cut over from 10.4 to 10.5. What will this do
to my fink install? Do I need to recompile everything? Do I need
to reinstall? Will it be relatively trivial? Transparent?
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Sorry if this is a fact, but the website appears to be deregistered,
yet SF still points at it. Is this going to change soon?
I ask because I'm still pulling updates and reading this mailing list just
fine... but there's no website I can point my friends at!
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Randal> The Apple migration tool apparently didn't copy over my fink-added
users.
Randal> How do I "force" install "passwd" to get them recreated?
Randal> (This may b
The Apple migration tool apparently didn't copy over my fink-added users.
How do I "force" install "passwd" to get them recreated?
(This may be a FAQ, sorry.)
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(1) Give up
(2) Retry the same mirror
(3) Retry another mirror from your country
(4) Retry another mirror
How do you want to proceed? [3]
Is that known, and soon to be fixed?
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SysV was adopted as POSIX, more or less.
It's sad that we're losing the legacy means. :(
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three responsible people
are listening to *this* list, so it'd be a fast way of determining
whether the problem is known or unknown.
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Failed: Can't resolve dependency "gettext-shlibs" for package "cvs-1.12.13-1"
(no matching packages/versions found)
Started showing up about two days ago. Known? Fixable?
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.8M
15476 login0.0% 0:00.01 11637 176K 408K 572K 26.9M
Appears to have no subprocesses (checked via ps laxww | grep 15501)
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>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> Is 0.5.4 known broken? Is there a newer version?
Martin> Works OK here.
>> Or is it something peculiar to me that keeps it saying "updating
Is 0.5.4 known broken? Is there a newer version?
Or is it something peculiar to me that keeps it saying "updating
the table data" with a barber pole forever?
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>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes:
>>>>> "Alexander" == Alexander K Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alexander> Both 10.3 and 10.4 have the package available in the unstable tree:
Alexander> http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb
seems unjustified
I'm running stable.
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ot; for package
"postgresql80-unified-8.0.3-24" (no matching packages/versions found)
ooops. :(
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ent code, 'fink rescan' will NOT fix this
Dave> problem.
I might be confusing this with "fink index" or "fink reindex" or something.
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tion when I've gone in
and hacked my local .info and .patch files. Is it no longer needed?
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Thank you for your help, and for looking in to the situation.
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d=17203&package_id=13043&release_id=326600
David> untar it, and run "./inject.pl" from within the fink-0.23.10 directory).
I actually *don't* like the idea of deleting my /sw. I have a few
hundred installed packages, plus the entire /sw/src populated.
Ahh, no need to d
ould be a .deb file but being unable to find it because
David> the distribution has changed).
"fink reinstall fink" did nothing. I'm now trying "fink rebuild fink".
Nope, more activity, but I'm still not seeing any change in "fink list perl5".
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install.pl
Checking system... powerpc-apple-darwin8.1.0
This system was not released at the time this Fink release was made.
Prerelease versions of Mac OS X might work with Fink, but there are no
guarantees.
ln -s 10.3 /sw/fink/dists
Is this output correct? Because "fink
ust for future reference.
And why isn't it more automatic?
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5.8.6-4 The Perl programming language, v. 5.8.6
perl586-core 5.8.6-4 Core files for perl, v. 5.8.6
pilot-link9-... 0.11.7-2 Palm libraries perl modules
system-perl586[virtual package]
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for package
"xml-parser-pm581-2.34-14", package "perl581-core" was not found.
Failed: Can't resolve dependency "perl581-core" for package
"xml-parser-pm581-2.34-14" (no matching packages/versions found)
Information about 2181 packages read
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Looks like some postgres things were rolled over, but now
we're missing libgeos2. Is that in unstable, and if so, should
it not already be promoted so that postgres8 can build?
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k package manager
i fink-mirrors0.24.3.1-1 Mirror infrastructure
i fink-prebinding 0.7.1-2 Tools for enabling prebinding in Fink
How long before fink-mirrors goes to 24.4.1 ? (Note, I'm not using
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d, or old ones
used instead.
### execution of /sw/bin/apt-get failed, exit code 100
Did someone break something at sourceforge? Why the 403's?
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ources that are nowhere to be found on the net, or at least not at
the places in the mirror list?
Or am I just using bad mirror settings?
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I didn't see any reply on this... no comment?
>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Randal> The most recent ettercap seems to be broken. Is it just me?
Randal> Trying even the first example of the manpage:
Randal>
file or directory
[ec_manuf.c:manuf_init:126]
Cannot open etter.finger.mac
That looks like some major missing install stuff. But is it just me?
Should I retry building other stuff?
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>>>>> "David" == David R Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
David> An update: SourceForge has now responded, and is fixing the problem.
David> -- Dave
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this someone else's (urgent) problem?
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>>>>> "Peter" == Peter O'Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Peter> Yeah, it was the top news item on fink's home page for a while. It is
Peter> still on the front page though.
Thanks... you mean I have to read the news? :) :)
Downloading now.
Has that ever existed? Who needs to fix this? And how
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e it's visible to a LOT of people
using 0.19.2. How fair is that? I'm going to get errors EVERY TIME I
run fink (usually daily) until fink is updated to 0.20. How soon is
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>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> On 1 avr. 2004, at 14:36, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>> Did everyone go home? :)
>>
Benjamin> it might be my rss feed is acting up... I've seen updates...
>>>>> "Benjamin" == Benjamin Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Benjamin> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> I haven't seen any .info files updated at all for the past two days.
>> Did everyone go home? :)
Benjamin> it might be my rss feed is actin
I haven't seen any .info files updated at all for the past two days.
Did everyone go home? :)
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rtin> flag.
Oh whew! I thought it was just me for a moment! Thanks for the
workaround... I'm fetching the file now with /usr/bin/curl. But this
won't help the next guy.
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e past day or two) tried it from my
comcast.net address and an address in SAVVIS space. In both cases,
the curl just starts, but will sit there for 3-5 minutes before I
Ctrl-C it. And I can't ping that host from either of my two hosts,
and a traceroute stops short beore I get there.
Whatever
d seem to work.
Yes. As a test, I just compiled "ethereal-ssl" (rather than the "ethereal"
I had installed), and all worked fine.
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>>>>> "Rob" == Rob Braun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Rob> On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 12:13:40PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>
>> During "fink selfupdate-cvs", I'm seeing a series of 10.3/unstable/...
>> entries (scrolling
calhost:~] merlyn%
Yes, I really do call my hostname "localhost". :)
...
Now what?
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>>>>> "Darian" == Darian Lanx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Darian> Even though I am a bit scared to say so (The name Randal L. Schwartz
Darian> does call for respect ya' know?!).
Darian> Unless you intend to have all of the tree around
Darian>
Did something change? Am I doing it wrong again?
This started about a week ago, if I recall.
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>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Randal> And it's a different number after ".VERSION" every time.
Ahh, the problem seemed to be that /sw/fink was owned by root,
not merlyn. Not sure how it got that way, but what
uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at
/sw/lib/perl5/Fink/SelfUpdate.pm line 633.
Updating using rsync failed. Check the error messages above.
And it's a different number after ".VERSION" every time.
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>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> I am now trying to find a way out of this by
>>
>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> I am now trying to find a way out of this by
Randal> Arggh. I just got bit by this too!
Mar
nk fetch fink-mirrors
This doesn't work. I still get "no mirror site list found for mirror 'master'".
Help!
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t need mirrors of it.
Perhaps that should be one of the choices in "fink configure".
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e Sep 23 15:02:28 2003
/usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0)
time stamp 1064385339 Tue Sep 23 23:35:39 2003
And it still crashes. :(
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ilt nearly the world, and still got the same problem.
Also, "tethereal" works, so it's definitely something only in the display
code.
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area, and since I have local first, it would shadow the ones
defined later. Apparently that's not the case.
Do I really have to blow away the unstable versions just so that
it sees the stable versions? My next rsync update will then
re-upgrade me. Ugh.
Why isn't the order of Tre
one you have installed...)
It's still dangerous to collapse those. Better to build the newer
Perl that also looks at older directories, than to collapse the old
and new directories.
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Any scheme you come up with must have the arch tag in there somewhere.
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s better. I'll switch it to that.
The difference would be that $(PWD) will insert the PWD variable
or PWD envar known to Make, while $$PWD will defer that to the
shell as $PWD. You'd see the difference in:
cd /etc; echo $(PWD)
vs
cd /etc; echo $$PWD
Which one
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... your
xfree86.info file is broken - mentioning xc-20031117.tar.bz2 which
as far as I can tell never existed anywhere. :(
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Perl
mitted get tested to ensure the sources are
available for at least part of the time? Or is this a rogue package
wanting this source?
Also, is there any easy way to see which package wants a particular source?
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etect the one you've got.
Ahh, it doesn't show a -dev, like yours did, but "fink install gtk+2"
seems happy.
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r: XFree86 4.2.x and Apple X11 beta 3
i system-xfree86-43 4.3-3 Placeholder: XFree86 4.3.x and Apple X11 1.0
i system-xfree86-upgrade 1.0-1 (place-holder package for upgrading broken
installs)
How do I get the -dev ? I upgraded 10.2 to 10.3, installing in-place.
Do I ne
k/10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11-system/system-xfree86.info
/sw/fink/10.2-gcc3.3/stable/main/finkinfo/x11-system/system-xfree86.info
Nothing in 10.3!
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>>>>> "Don" == Don McKenzie Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Don> [82-69-15-218:~] donpaul% which rsync
Don> /sw/bin/rsync
Yes, this does seem to be the culprit now.
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ERY different. Deleted many things.
No errors either, now.
OK... that's the problem. The "rsync" package in fink is broken.
Please make a note of that.
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artin> honor --delete-after?
% which rsync
/sw/bin/rsync
% fink list rsync
Information about 1977 packages read in 2 seconds.
i rsync2.5.5-1 Synchronize filesystems between hosts
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nown 386 Oct 21 08:11
/sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/xplanet-0.95-12.patch
-rw-r--r--1 merlyn unknown 1813 Nov 8 02:36
/sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/xplanet.info
-rw-r--r--1 merlyn unknown 410 Nov 8 02:36
/sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/xp
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> None of the above: Already fixed, about a week ago.
&g
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Costabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Martin> None of the above: Already fixed, about a week ago.
Define "already fixed". I just self-updated, and I'm still getting it.
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xplanet-0.95-12.info".
WARNING: Unable to parse the line "GCC 3.3" in
"/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/games/grhino-0.7.0-11.info".
Updating package index... done.
Are these wanted, expected, known, fixable, hurting anything?
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on't know about threads vs non-threads but
Michael> binary compatibility should be preserved in the 5.8.x series between
Michael> similarly configured Perls. Otherwise something's really broken.
Threads are not compatible with non-threads. And the word "should"
is of
er!". Ugh.
Thus, be careful how you do the packaging for fink perl packages...
it's not just version number here. It's versionnumber plus threads,
and no upward compatibility at the binary level.
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Hmm. On the rsync update this morning, fink was updated, said something
about switching to 10.3, and now my 5000 packages are down to 800.
Did the latest update get rid of "unstable"? I can't remember where
I enabled that.
Or is the Right Thing Happening?
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Michael> my @installed = map { /^\s +i \s+ (\S+)/x; $1 }
Danger danger danger. If that doesn't match, you get the previous
$1. NEVER NEVER NEVER use $1 except when qualified as the condition
of a match.
Michael> grep /^\s+i /, `fink list -i`;
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I can upgrade nearly anything else without using --force-depends
though. Only X11 did I have to go "below the hood".
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in /sw/bin. If they
aren't, put them in /sw/lib/$PACKAGENAME, and be sure to invoke them
in a way that /sw works if replaced by something else.
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>>>>> "Hisashi" == Hisashi T Fujinaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hisashi> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> If there's any part of the Perl programming that is too slow, please
>> demonstrate it with benchmarks.
Hisashi> Re
han rewriting
Max> everything from scratch, so I am still skeptic.
You should look into DBD::SQLite then... a complete SQL engine with
transactions, subselects, views, etc... but without the server
running! The entire engine is included in the DBD::SQLite distro.
It's really rather remarkab
bound, which means that the choice of language should
be made based on cost of development, not raw speed. Even having said
that, you can always optimize Perl, usually even staying within Perl,
but sometimes by popping into C, which is easy with Inline::C.
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ILE;
rename "$INFO_FILE.tmp", $INFO_FILE
or die "Cannot rename $INFO_FILE.tmp to $INFO_FILE: $!";
print "Installing new version...\n";
system "fink", "install", "system-perlmodules";
This ensures that fink won't try to
ng ;) about it.
And so it's been broken for a week for everyone, and there's no
end to the breakage in sight? How is anyone getting anything done?
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rough that. I've tried at all times of day or night.
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right steps of a CVS sync.
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1? I think the .info is messed up, but
that still shouldn't cause an infinite loop.
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the problem. everything works fine for
Chris> me with this package like it is.
Try removing the source from /sw/src, and then "fink fetch-missing".
All hades breaks loose.
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>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Randal> I'm using the CVS tip of fink... lately, I've been getting failures to
Randal> download that end up trying to download something with "master:" in
Randal> the front.
files.opendarwin.org/konversation-0.12.tar.gz
What's doing that?
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it means. Nor would I even know where to go
to find out the docs for it. Nor would I expect the docs to be there
given the previous experience with other undocumented parts of
fink. :(
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ll
expands the pattern, then hands each item to ls, which says "yup,
that's a file already". Why did you use ls? :)
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Per
borosx for a window manager *but* retain all
the cool features of X11.app?
Neat!
I greatly prefer oroborosx to quartz-wm.
Ugh. How do you uninstall X11.app? :)
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right?
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iled: Can't resolve dependency "openssl097-shlibs" for package
"sitecopy-ssl-0.11.4-6" (no matching packages/versions found)
Just recently, that is.
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>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Randal> You didn't mention that "bundle-tetex" is now severely broken. It is.
Randal> It wants to install things that aren't provided by tetex-base, except
Randal> that th
mething and then (rightfully) gets conflicts when it finds they
are already installed.
So, please update or outdate bundle-tetex and system-tetex and
tetex-macosx soon. For all of us. :)
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e. If you mean:
my $newlibrary;
my @liblist;
my $libdir = "/usr/X11R6/lib";
then you'll have to say that. No simple addition of parens will help
you. What you're saying now is the same as leaving the second and
third "my" off, and "use strict&
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