Dear Bruno,
You have brought up a vitally important question.
Thank you so very much.
Best wishes
Alex
RE Bruno: How could the quantum correlations existence be definite if
nothing is objective?
ME: It does not really matter what the nature of the reality is, either
strongly objective (denied
RE Bruno Marchal: Gödel's theorem implies that machines which are looking
at themselves (in a precise technical sense) develop a series of distinct
phenomenologies (arguably corresponding to justifiable, knowable,
observable, sensible).
ME: I find this a fascinating observation in that you are
On 02 May 2016, at 03:38, Maxine Sheets-Johnstone wrote:
To all concerned colleagues,
I appreciate the fact that discussions should be conversations about
issues,
but this particular issue and in particular the critique cited in my
posting
warrant extended exposition in order to show the
Hi Alex,
On 02 May 2016, at 08:30, Alex Hankey wrote:
RE Bruno Marchal: It is easier to explain the illusion of matter to
something conscious than to explain the illusion of consciousness to
something material.
ME: At the Consciousness Conference I found it extraordinary that at
least
RE Bruno Marchal: It is easier to explain the illusion of matter to
something conscious than to explain the illusion of consciousness to
something material.
ME: At the Consciousness Conference I found it extraordinary that at least
one plenary presentation was centered round treating the wave
sense of open inquiry is apparent in
the
literature he cites in conjunction with his articles and books. His
recent
article in Biological Cybernetics that focuses on “Agency” is strikingly
relevant to the present FIS discussion. It takes experience into
account,
specifically in the form
I'd be interested to know whether "mattering" is considered within
"meaning". I suspect "mattering" is distinct.
thinking aloud
Science isn't just meaningful. It matters to scientists. Perhaps it's
only because it matters to some people, it exists.
Re. meaning, I think the connection
Caro Karl,
la chiamiamo natura, ma è tutta arte. A. Einstein e S. Hawking pensavano
che Dio non giocasse a dadi. Il primo non ha avuto il tempo di ricredersi,
il secondo si. Ha perso una scommessa, circa la non emissione di
informazione da parte dei buchi neri sostenuta nel 1975, dopo (2004-5) ha
rk. And the question is still
being asked.
Best
Christophe
*De :* Søren Brier <sb@cbs.dk>
*Envoyé :* mercredi 6 avril 2016 02:04
*À :* 'Christophe'
*Cc :* fis@listas.unizar.es
*Objet :* SV: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS
Dear Christ
Dear Soren,
It is very strange for me to read yours as usual very learned text,
because your understanding of what it is I am trying to do is so different
from my own understanding. Though I have had great pleasure of reading you
works over the years I am not sure that you have read much of
Dear Soren,
In my opinion, there are two issues here (again J ):
1. the issue of non-verbal (e.g., bodily) communication;
2. the meta-biological or transdisciplinary integration vs. the
differentiation among the disciplines.
Ad 1. Although I don't agree with Luhmann on many things,
...@leydesdorff.net>>
Date: Saturday 2 April 2016 at 13:04
To: "'Pedro C. Marijuan'"
<pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es<mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>>,
"fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>"
<fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>&
Dear FIS Colleagues,
I am attaching herein Soeren's presentation. If you have any trouble
with the attachment, the file is in fis web pages too:
http://fis.sciforum.net/fis-discussion-sessions/
By clicking on Soeren Brier's session (highlighted in red) you can
immediately obtain
Hi to everyone,
Sorry for my tardiness (life within a PhD is not very easy!)
First, I am happy that every body has agreed on the conceptual chain
genotype-phenotype-sociotype. For me that's important, as it is one of
the foundations of my own work and the research project associated.
I return
Ok, but in order to understand the emerging macro-variables of the social
structure, one must always take into account the whole cognitive
capabilities of the individual.
Dear Raquel and colleagues,
It seems to me that this misses the point that the non-linear dynamics of
the macro-system do
- Mensaje original -
Message from Bruno Marchal--Hi Jerry, hi
List,
On 06 Jun 2012, at 17:43, Jerry LR Chandler wrote:
but offhand it seems to me to depedn on a sort of idealism that I do not
accept.
It does not. It does rely on Church thesis,
this.
Friendly regards
Krassimir
From: Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:38 PM
To: Joseph Brenner
Cc: m...@aiu.ac.jp ; Krassimir Markov
Subject: RE: [Fis] Discussion of Information Science Education
Dear Joseph,
Now I have no right to post to the list, but I anyway want
And it could feature in 'Science for Non-Majors' courses as well.
STAN
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Guy A Hoelzer hoel...@unr.edu wrote:
Hi All,
I agree with those who are suggesting that Information Science makes sense
as a widely useful way to think about different scientific
Saturday, December 3, 2011, 8:43:47 PM, Gavin wrote:
I was reading Richard Dawkins book “the greatest show on earth” and
almost fell over backwards when I read his comments about life and
information. He says the only difference between living matter and
non living matter is information. That
by the ancient philosophers.
Friendly regards
Krassimir
-Original Message-
From: m...@aiu.ac.jp
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:57 PM
To: fis
Subject: Re: [Fis] Discussion of Information Science Education
Dear Colleagues:
Thank you for many interesting contributions in the first day
- Original Message -
From: Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
To: Loet Leydesdorff
Cc: fis@listas.unizar.es
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Fis] Discussion of Information Science Education
Dear Loet,
I think you made an important point.
It is really
Dear Colleagues:
There are some questions which periodically return to FIS
discussions without conclusive answers. For instance: What is
information? However, the lack of consensus regarding central
concept is not an obstacle in the development of Information
Science. There is no commonly
Regarding:
Information Science is a perfect tool for integration of curriculum,
especially in the context of Liberal Arts education. Which other concept,
if not information, can be applied in all possible contexts of education?
I would point out that there have been two previous disciplines that
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 2:23 PM
To: PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ ; fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: [Fis] Discussion of Information Science Education
Dear Colleagues:
There are some questions which periodically return to FIS
discussions without conclusive answers. For instance: What
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-Original Message-
From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On
Behalf Of m...@aiu.ac.jp
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:24 PM
To: PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ; fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: [Fis] Discussion
=ych9gNYJhl=en
-Original Message-
From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On
Behalf Of m...@aiu.ac.jp
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:24 PM
To: PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ; fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: [Fis] Discussion of Information Science
I find this view a little disturbing.
If you do not have a definition, of some kind, of the term information. Your
claim is simply equivalent to saying that you have no idea what you are talking
about. How can you proceed without a clarification of terms?
I can at least point toward living
Dear FISers,
After the Summer pause it is time to start with the discussion sessions
again. This is the tentative calendar for next months:
-- CHEMOINFORMATION (and molecular recognition), by Michel Petitjean
-- INFORMATION SCIENCE TEACHING, by Marcin Schroeder Gordana
Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Pedro
you write:
There is a large risk of becoming
subjective, therefore unitelligible, if one leaves the
foreground-background convention of the unified, standard, invariable
against chaotic, unpredictable, varied.
Is it really like this? or is it like this as seen from the perspective
On 5/4/2011 3:56 AM, Rafael Capurro wrote:
Dear Pedro
you write:
There is a large risk of becoming
subjective, therefore unitelligible, if one leaves the
foreground-background convention of the unified, standard, invariable
against chaotic, unpredictable, varied.
Is it really like this? or is
Betreff: [Fis] Discussion on INFORMATION THEORY--Karl Javorszky
Message from Karl Javorszky
-
Information – A Culture Shock
Dear Fis,
We keep coming back to the Middle Ages. The real achievement
Message from Karl Javorszky
-
Information – A Culture Shock
Dear Fis,
We keep coming back to the Middle Ages. The real achievement of the
Fis group is, that here professionals both from biology and the hard
sciences
Dear Joe,
However, I rather tend to agree with you that Loet's, Rosen's and Dubois'
models of communication, anticipation, etc. are somewhat too abstract. The
models, as I think Loet may agree, are created for analysis, and do not define
the physical, dynamic relation between the models,
Dear FIS colleagues,
I have some differences about the epistemic stance recently discussed by
Karl, Loet (and in part, Joseph, but he looks more as trying to step on
the reality, whatever it is). Basically, their informational subject
looks like the abstract, disembodied, non-situated,
:29 AM
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders and Ordering
Principles
Dear FIS colleagues,
I have some differences about the epistemic stance recently discussed by
Karl, Loet (and in part, Joseph, but he looks more as trying to step on the
reality
.
I think we made step to the next discussion. It is nice to meet Mark!
Friendly regards
Krassimir
-Original Message-
From: Loet Leydesdorff
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:14 PM
To: 'Pedro C. Marijuan' ; fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders
: 01.04.2011 12:14
An: 'Pedro C. Marijuan'pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es, fis@listas.unizar.es
Betreff: Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders and Ordering
Principles
Dear Pedro,
I understand that you have some problems with my epistemic stance. Let me
try to clarify.
Let me go back
part de* joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
*Envoyé :* vendredi 1 avril 2011 19:38
*À :* l...@leydesdorff.net; 'Pedro C. Marijuan'; fis@listas.unizar.es
*Objet :* Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders and Ordering
Principles
Dear Pedro,
I do not quite recognize myself in the statement
. that
they experience represent their qualia?
With best regards,
Gordana
http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/
From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On
Behalf Of Stanley N Salthe
Sent: den 1 april 2011 21:39
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Discussion
to hearing from you.
Best wishes,
Joseph
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: karl.javors...@gmail.com
Datum: 27.03.2011 11:41
An: Pedro C. Marijuanpcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
Kopie: fis@listas.unizar.es
Betreff: Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam
Dear James,
thank you for the widening
An: Pedro C. Marijuanpcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
Kopie: fis@listas.unizar.es
Betreff: Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam
Dear James,
thank you for the widening of this discussion.
Order and Information
Let us not close this session on the historical perspective of the
modern concept of Science
.
Best wishes,
Joseph
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: karl.javors...@gmail.com
Datum: 27.03.2011 11:41
An: Pedro C. Marijuanpcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
Kopie: fis@listas.unizar.es
Betreff: Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam
Dear James,
thank you for the widening
Dear James,
thank you for the widening of this discussion.
Order and Information
Let us not close this session on the historical perspective of the
modern concept of Science yet. Loet’s thoughtful remarks about the
relation between information and order bring us back to some deep
problems they
Dear all,
Thank you very much to Pedro for asking me to suggest a discussion for
the list and to everyone else for indulging me. As a historian, I have
learnt that questions I naively thought were quite simple have turned
out to be very complicated indeed. The purpose of history, I
. Marijuan
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:02 PM
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam
Dear all,
Thank you very much to Pedro for asking me to suggest a discussion for the
list and to everyone else for indulging me. As a historian, I have learnt
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