Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-17 Thread Charles Parcell
heh yeah your thread got hijacked. Charles P. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Todd Kerpelman t...@kerp.net wrote: By the way, in case anybody was wondering, I ended up picking up the O'Reilly Flex Cookbook over the Training From the Source one, primarily because the O'Reilly site had a

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-17 Thread Merrill, Jason
By the way, in case anybody was wondering, I ended up picking up the O'Reilly Flex Cookbook heh yeah your thread got hijacked. Heh, yeah sorry Todd. And by the way, in case anyone was wondering, Dave Watts spend a lot of time with me off list helping me get my copy of Flexbuilder 3 working

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Kerpelman
By the way, in case anybody was wondering, I ended up picking up the O'Reilly Flex Cookbook over the Training From the Source one, primarily because the O'Reilly site had a very simple Buy the PDF option. (It's a little easier to read and code on the train if I can just have everything on my

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Paul Andrews
I think one of the things that will determine whether you like Flex training from the source, is whether you want a book you can just read and later pick up and thumb through a section. Flex training from the source is arranged more as a series of hands-on exercises where the reader is told how

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
I understand what you mean, but I am using the stand alone.  If Flexbuilder had been its own 100% Adobe-made application (meaning not coupled to Eclipse), having the stand alone version of Flexbuilder, I could still download and run Eclipse separately and use it for other things. Oh,

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
This pattern repeats itself to the end of the book.  It's a terrible way to teach something.  We'll teach you the wrong way, then we'll tell you it's the wrong way after you already learned the lesson.  Do they know nothing about the learning process?  Apparently so. Actually, this approach

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
Just pick a version and stick with it. You don't have to upgrade Eclipse. Right, except in a case like this memory problem, you did say when we were trying to troubleshoot my problems: 1. Use a different (newer) version of Eclipse. 2. Use a different JVM with Eclipse. Another part of the

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
Just pick a version and stick with it. You don't have to upgrade Eclipse. Right, except in a case like this memory problem, you did say when we were trying to troubleshoot my problems: Well, that's no different from any other upgrade, though. If Dreamweaver CS4 works better than

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
of America Flash Platform Community -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:15 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
Well yeah, but each time - so I got FB 3 approved, but now that I have this memory problem, to fix it you're saying upgrade Eclipse.  Well guess what?  That means another lengthy approval process and review (time and resources) to approve a newer version of a piece of software that

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
Dave, I'm really growing weary of this thread, I see we're not on the same side of the issue, and that isn't going to change, but I do have to respond to one last thing you said: So I'm at least aware of security issues within the enterprise. None of these things should be that big of a hurdle

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
Dave, I'm really growing weary of this thread, I see we're not on the same side of the issue, and that isn't going to change, but I do have to respond to one last thing you said: I'm not really on a side here, I'm just trying to provide information. I'm not trying to antagonize you. But yeah,

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
I'll be happy to help with any configuration questions you have I'm going to try and fix Flexbuilder this afternoon - I might if I run into problems. I appreciate the offer, thanks! Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
I'm going to try and fix Flexbuilder this afternoon - I might if I run into problems.  I appreciate the offer, thanks! Well, one nice thing that I neglected to mention earlier is that there aren't many ties between Eclipse and your OS - you can zip the whole thing up on one machine, and unzip

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Anthony Pace
Hello, I have to put my 2 cents in with regard to security. Open source is safer; for, I can scrutinize every line of code without having to jump through hoops. If there is an issue with open source in the enterprise, this is usually caused by licensing factors, not security. (BS

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
In fact, if it would be helpful, I can zip up a copy and put it somewhere. Yeah, but don't I need a legal copy? We purchased a license with charting. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
Ha. Well great, seems my eclipse.ini file is missing - could you send me a good one (meaning good settings - I have 2GB ram) or copy and paste the contents into a reply and I'll make one with notepad and add the .ini extension? Thanks. I had done this before with the Flexbuilder.ini file

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
Ha.  Well great, seems my eclipse.ini file is missing - could you send me a good one (meaning good settings - I have 2GB ram) or copy and paste the contents into a reply and I'll make one with notepad and add the .ini extension?  Thanks.  I had done this before with the Flexbuilder.ini file

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
Awesome, thanks Dave - great info, I appreciate your time spent writing all that up, and also for the files you send off list. I really appreciate it. I'll plug these in tonight and see if I get better results. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
In the case of the integrated install, FlexBuilder will by default use the JVM installed in c:\program files\adobe\flex builder 3\jre I looked in that folder, and all I see are license files, copyright, readme files, etc. and a bin and a lib folder. Is it installed in one of those or could I

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Dave Watts
I looked in that folder, and all I see are license files, copyright, readme files, etc. and a bin and a lib folder.  Is it installed in one of those or could I possibly be missing something there too?  What is the filename(s) of your JRE? That's all you should have. Java lives in the bin and

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:44 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book? I looked in that folder, and all I see are license files, copyright, readme files, etc

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-15 Thread Merrill, Jason
Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:53 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book? I compared differences between your Flexbuilder 3

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
(On a side note, are there people out there who are successfully using FlashDevelop with the FlexDesignView plugin for real development? Or should I lay down the cash for FlexBuilder?) I'm using FlashDevelop + the free Flex SDK from Adobe to create Flex apps. Works great, no problems. I didn't

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Dave Watts
I have Flexbuilder but don't use it much because I have so many out of memory errors with it, I haven't been able to get those under control - only happens with Flexbuilder - not with any other multimedia application. And I have 2GB RAM.  I'm really disappointed in Adobe for not addressing

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Muzak
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book? (On a side note, are there people out there who are successfully using FlashDevelop with the FlexDesignView plugin for real development? Or should I lay down the cash for FlexBuilder?) I'm using FlashDevelop + the free Flex SDK from Adobe

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
As Dave said, you should probably look into tweaking the Eclipse JVM memory If you google Eclipse JVM or Eclipse ini I'm sure something useful will come up. Dave, Muzak - Hey thanks guys. However, been there and done that tweaking of the ini a few times to create more heap space. Initally, I

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Muzak
@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:10 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book? As Dave said, you should probably look into tweaking the Eclipse JVM memory If you google Eclipse JVM or Eclipse ini I'm sure something useful will come up. Dave, Muzak - Hey thanks guys

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Dave Watts
This experience has made me really dislike the fact that Adobe essentially built an Eclipse Plug-in instead of a single app, but I also understand why they did it No, this is actually a Good Thing(tm). Eclipse is a mature environment with lots of people improving it regularly. And because of

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Muzak
: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book? This experience has made me really dislike the fact that Adobe essentially built an Eclipse Plug-in instead of a single app, but I also understand why they did it No, this is actually a Good Thing(tm). Eclipse

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 8:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book? This experience has made me really dislike the fact that Adobe essentially built an Eclipse Plug-in instead of a single app, but I also

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Steven Sacks
For training, I like the Adobe Flex training from the source book(s). I personally did not like this book at all. Here's how the book goes: Build this like this. Build that like that. Now, you know how you built this and that? That's the wrong way to build it, so we're going to refactor

RE: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:47 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book? For training, I like the Adobe Flex training from the source book(s). I personally did not like

Re: [Flashcoders] Favorite Flex book?

2009-04-14 Thread Steven Sacks
This book obviously wasn't meant for your learning style, but it was for me. Different strokes for different folks! :) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders