RE: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Culp asked: My submodel config file is not getting read at startup (I'm getting file not found). Is anyone using CVS FlightGear and Linux having this problem also? Thought I'd check before I go over the config file for the fiftieth time looking for an error. I'm getting the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 04:08, David Culp wrote: My submodel config file is not getting read at startup (I'm getting file not found). Are you getting file not found or No systems model specified for this model!? Is anyone using CVS FlightGear and Linux having this problem also?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quick report from AOPA

2004-10-27 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis Olson wrote: People were impressed with the smoothness of the panel and the modeling of the different systems and built in sensor errors. People were also impressed with the time of day modeling and day/night/dusk effects. We did a lot of demoing in the SFO area and people really liked

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Is anyone using CVS FlightGear and Linux having this problem also? Thought I'd check before I go over the config file for the fiftieth time looking for an error. Are you using the generic config or a custom made? If you are using a custom config, you must remember to override the generic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Erik Hofman
David Culp wrote: Unable to read submodels file: /home/dave/FlightGear/data/Aircraft/FW190/submodels.xml Did you already load the file in your browser to see if it's XML compliant? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Culp wrote: ... snip ... The submodel system has been moved away from the Systems code. It's now an independent subsystem of FG. I think the spitfire submodels are working because I get a crash due to a crease token, which implies the smoke submodel is being created. I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.2.2 released

2004-10-27 Thread Dale E. Edmons
Curtis Olson wrote: Dale E. Edmons wrote: Yes, I'm trying to use Terragear to bring some life back into an old SPX-200 system. (ie flat runways) Other than polygon count this is the biggest problem I have. Oh, well. You should be able to hack terragear to limit the max runway grade to 0%

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 15:31: BTW, how do I resurrect the USS Saratoga? Mathias and I are beginning work on arrester wires. FWIW: we could have better than the Saratoga. We've got permission to redistribute the cvn-68(?; Truman?) with fgfs under GPL conditions. It's just

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ BTW, how do I resurrect the USS Saratoga? Mathias and I are beginning work on arrester wires. FWIW: we could have better than the Saratoga. We've got permission to redistribute the cvn-68(?; Truman?) with fgfs under GPL conditions. It's just that nobody got around to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote redistribute the cvn-68(?; Truman?) with fgfs under GPL conditions USS Nimitz Regards Vivian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Never mind. I somehow got some DOS line endings in my file. Must have been a cut/paste from a DOS document. Dave -- David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
I've already smartened up the Saratoga model: taken away the ski-jump etc. It'll do for trials. But if anyone has anything better ... What is the Saratoga doing, or not doing, that needs to be fixed? Dave -- David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 15:09, David Culp wrote: The submodel system has been moved away from the Systems code. It's now an independent subsystem of FG. Silly me! I must have confused submodels with systems. I thought you where talking about systems. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Culp Sent: 27 October 2004 15:34 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file I've already smartened up

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Not displaying. I've put this: ai scenarioship_demo/scenario /ai in my ../*-set.xml file, and replaced the sailboat by Saratoga, and, quick as a flash, nothing. Make sure you're using Models/Geometry/saratoga.ac. The file saratoga.xml seems to have disappeared. A new file will have

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Culp wrote Sent: 27 October 2004 18:05 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file Not displaying. I've put this: ai scenarioship_demo/scenario /ai in my ../*-set.xml file, and replaced the sailboat by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Make sure you're using Models/Geometry/saratoga.ac. The file saratoga.xml seems to have disappeared. A new file will have to be made in order for the ship to face the right way. I'd noticed that, so I used sailboat.xml instead, and changed the model to saratoga.ac. Everyhting

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Culp wrote: Sent: 27 October 2004 18:34 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file Make sure you're using Models/Geometry/saratoga.ac. The file saratoga.xml seems to have disappeared. A new file will have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quick report from AOPA

2004-10-27 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 02:46, David Megginson wrote: Great report, Curt -- I'm glad to hear that FlightGear held up its end so well. One of the most impressive things about FlightGear is its ability to model marginal visibility fairly realistically -- watching the runway come into view

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Russell Suter
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 15:31: BTW, how do I resurrect the USS Saratoga? Mathias and I are beginning work on arrester wires. FWIW: we could have better than the Saratoga. We've got permission to redistribute the cvn-68(?; Truman?) with fgfs under

[Flightgear-devel] OT [SPEWS] (Was: Re: submodels - config file)

2004-10-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I'm sorry for the spurious occurrence of the [SPEWS] tag in subject lines. Sometimes I forget to remove them. (They are automatically added by one of my spam checkers to denote messages from spews[1] listed sources.) m. [1] http://www.spews.org/ ___

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Russell Suter -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 21:06: BTW, the above picture is of the Truman (CVN-75). CVN-68 is the Nimitz. OK. (The model contains numbers for several carriers of the Nimitz class, to select via fgfs property. ;-) I'd be delighted to try to reexport the .fsc files if I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quick report from AOPA

2004-10-27 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Wednesday, 27 October 2004 02:26, Curtis Olson wrote: People were also impressed with the time of day modeling and day/night/dusk effects. You just reminded me of something I wanted to ask. Is the enhanced lighting in FG still under construction? It looks terrible and slows my system to a

[Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Some notes on making an AI carrier. First, I think it would be best to derive a new AICarrier class from AIShip, since I expect the carrier to get pretty hairy. The current AI objects are not solid, so landing on the carrier is impossible until we solidify the deck. One way to do this will be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Russell Suter
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Russell Suter -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 21:06: BTW, the above picture is of the Truman (CVN-75). CVN-68 is the Nimitz. OK. (The model contains numbers for several carriers of the Nimitz class, to select via fgfs property. ;-) Very nice! So, this has been

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:18:46 -0500 David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some notes on making an AI carrier. The FDM will have to be changed to allow the aircraft to sit on a deck without the deck sailing away from under it. The difference between the aircraft's and carrier's velocity vectors

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Yep. I guess this means that the ground position and velocity vectors will need to be passed in to the FDMs. I'd also recommend against passing in orientation and rotational velocity vectors at the moment - first do the steady level case. Yes, I'm a believer in getting something simple

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Russell Suter -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:31: So, this has been converted before, I assume. Yes, it has been converted to *.dxf and from there to *.ac. Already the first step killed the texture coords. But the *.fsc should be the original format. Where do the converted files go? Umm

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Sent: 27 October 2004 21:59 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file * Russell Suter -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 22:31: So, this has been converted before, I assume. Yes, it has been converted to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On October 27, 2004 04:18 pm, David Culp wrote: One way to do this will be to define the deck(s) as a set of rectangles; I think two should do it, but maybe more.   user aircraft gets close to the deck (using radar range and altitude) the AICarrier will start checking to see if the aircraft is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I am thinking of something more generic than Carrier. Ampere On October 27, 2004 07:13 pm, David Culp wrote: I don't think we're on the same page here.  The deck is owned by the carrier.   Unless the carrier exists the decks won't exist either.  Unless you want to put decks elsewhere?  Like

RE: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread Norman Vine
David Culp writes: I don't see the point of having the FDM's know anything about carriers. The FDM already knows where the ground is. All we have to do is let the carrier override this value. The airplane thinks it's on the ground. Don't forget apparent wind speed and direction

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread David Culp
Don't forget apparent wind speed and direction discontinuites between on deck and in air ! Actually I *do* plan on forgetting that, for now ;) That's the kind of thing that can be added in later phases. Here's what I think would be a good project schedule: 1) Derive a new AICarrier class

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Making the entire carrier solid? Regarding the CAT-aircraft attachment: I am hoping that the attachment point on the aircraft will also allow tugs to tow aircrafts around. Ampere On October 27, 2004 07:56 pm, David Culp wrote: 9)  ? ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI carrier

2004-10-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:56:52 -0500, David wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 7) Add pitching and rolling deck capability ..heave too. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of