RE: [Flightgear-devel] Citation pitch down divergence. Fixed?

2005-11-11 Thread Vivian Meazza
Josh Babcock Lee Elliott wrote: On Thursday 10 Nov 2005 20:20, Andy Ross wrote: After some prodding from Curt, I finally spent a few hours yesterday tracking down the pitch down discontinuity in the Citation. Well, I didn't find a discontinuity. I can now graph the lift curve from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Just a quick announcement that I rolled up v0.9.9-pre3 tonight. I had screwed up and missed a file in the base package, and then some other changes got snuck into simgear/flightgear so I figured I might as well roll out another try. There's one thing I really like to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 09:09, Erik Hofman wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Just a quick announcement that I rolled up v0.9.9-pre3 tonight. I had screwed up and missed a file in the base package, and then some other changes got snuck into simgear/flightgear so I figured I might as well

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Joystick issues with throttleAxis()

2005-11-11 Thread Richard Bytheway
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralf Gerlich snip I was just thinking of a more general way of solving the calibration issues than putting it into the configuration files. Regards, Ralf snip I have used systems (PS, PS2, the driver for my Saitek joystick under Windows) which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?

2005-11-11 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 11 November 2005 01:43, Georg Vollnhals wrote: There was a review/test of FlightGear in linux user, November 2005, a very popular German linux magazin. Although they gave FlightGear 4 full pages, scenery on their cover CD and a lot of very usable hints aimed to flightsim beginners

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Joystick issues with throttleAxis()

2005-11-11 Thread Stefan Seifert
Richard Bytheway wrote: I have used systems (PS, PS2, the driver for my Saitek joystick under Windows) which appear to monitor the highest and lowest values that have been seen from a given axis, and assume that these are the extremes of the axis. Obviously when you first start it up,

[Flightgear-devel] Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?

2005-11-11 Thread Ima Sudonim
Oliver, Thank you for finding this online, I was very interested in reading it when Georg mentioned it (thanks to Georg also)! Here is the online version of this review: http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2005/11/070-flightgear/ Best Regards, Oliver C. If someone needs translation into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Steve Hosgood wrote: That's certainly not getting in before 0.9.9! Turns out to be wy more tricky than it looked. It would seem that the entire handling of sun/moon azimuth/altitude as it's done now in flightgear needs replacing, with the alt/az calculations themselves done in Simgear.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Ima Sudonim wrote: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux- user.de%2Fausgabe%2F2005%2F11%2F070-flightgear%2Flangpair=de% 7Cenhl=ensafe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8prev=%2Flanguage_tools Oh yeah: flies are still an expensive pleasure :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Ladislav Michnovič
2005/11/11, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's one thing I really like to see solved preferably before 0.9.9 (but it is a must for 1.0) and that's the sun/moon azimuth calculation code to be replaced. If you are talking about code from xglobe ( src/Time/sunpos.cxx, moonpos.cxx) , which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Jon Stockill
Steve Hosgood wrote: Curt: if you've not done it yourself yet, the file data/Huds/Instruments/Default/runwayinstr.xml has duff permissions. The following files probably *shouldn't* be there: Aircraft/A-10/.#A-10cl-set.xml.1.6 Aircraft/c172/Models/.#c172p.ac.1.1

[Flightgear-devel] plib update: gui themes pink input fields, PUSTRING_MAX

2005-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Those using the alternative dark GUI theme may want to update plib/cvs. All packagers should IMHO do that in any case. This fixes two problems: - The maximum length of entries in the property viewer was changed from 80 to 256. The old value affected a few longer entries, like the METAR

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?

2005-11-11 Thread Josh Babcock
Martin Spott wrote: Ima Sudonim wrote: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux- user.de%2Fausgabe%2F2005%2F11%2F070-flightgear%2Flangpair=de% 7Cenhl=ensafe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8prev=%2Flanguage_tools Oh yeah: flies are still an expensive pleasure :-)

[Flightgear-devel] Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?

2005-11-11 Thread Ima Sudonim
Ima Sudonim wrote: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux- user.de%2Fausgabe%2F2005%2F11%2F070-flightgear%2Flangpair=de% 7Cenhl=ensafe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8prev=%2Flanguage_tools Oh yeah: flies are still an expensive pleasure :-) Martin. Martin, I agree,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Ladislav Michnovic( wrote: 2005/11/11, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's one thing I really like to see solved preferably before 0.9.9 (but it is a must for 1.0) and that's the sun/moon azimuth calculation code to be replaced. If you are talking about code from xglobe (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Josh Babcock wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oh yeah: flies are still an expensive pleasure :-) Damn right. Do you know how much money it costs to upgrade a fly from annoying to pleasurable? Yes, I do, but my system is not that expensive. You need a money purse and good visual judgement

Re: [Flightgear-devel] plib update: gui themes pink input fields,

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Not in yesterday's update, but another reason to update, especially for creators of binary 0.9.9 packages. This was added after the last stable plib release 0.8.4: This is not the only reason why it makes sense to have a new PLIB release. FreeBSD portability fixes for

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Friday 11 November 2005 14:07: How should we proceed at this point; add it prior to 0.9.9, or add it for 1.0 and provide a patch for 0.9.9? I'm strongly in favor of 0.9.9. If it takes us as long to get 1.0.0 out as it took us for 0.9.9, then there will be several releases of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I'm strongly in favor of 0.9.9. If it takes us as long to get 1.0.0 out as it took us for 0.9.9, then there will be several releases of Linux distributions during its lifetime. Risking that fgfs won't be included in any of these releases is not a good idea. (Similar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 13:07, Erik Hofman wrote: Ladislav Michnovic( wrote: 2005/11/11, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's one thing I really like to see solved preferably before 0.9.9 (but it is a must for 1.0) and that's the sun/moon azimuth calculation code to be replaced. If

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:29, Jon Stockill wrote: Steve Hosgood wrote: Curt: if you've not done it yourself yet, the file data/Huds/Instruments/Default/runwayinstr.xml has duff permissions. The following files probably *shouldn't* be there: And the following file probably should

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Steve Hosgood wrote: I shall go hang my head in shame somewhere quiet There's no reason for that, I didn't manage to get around it at first either. I think I have a lucky day today to discover how simple it could be done. Let me emphasize that I really appreciate it that you took the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.9.9-pre2

2005-11-11 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 19:05, Dave Culp wrote: Aside from the already mentioned glitch about the missing cloudlayers.xml file, I was able to build 0.9.9-pre2 without any problems on my linux box. I just moved on to 0.9.9.pre3 No (real) problems now. Thanks to all who looked at my 'strace'

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Steve Hosgood wrote: And the following file probably should (considering that otherwise you get a complaint message on the screen when using the default aircraft): data/Aircraft/c172r/Models/c172-dpm.ac I've fixed this in the code to use the default included c172p instead. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman wrote: Yes, that's the code. I now have a fully working version without any of the affected code, just a routine which was written by Curtis anyhow. How should we proceed at this point; add it prior to 0.9.9, or add it for 1.0 and provide a patch for 0.9.9? Erik, If you

[Flightgear-devel] Fedora Core RPMs for 0.9.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Steve Hosgood
If anyone wants to test 0.9.9-pre3 on Fedora Core 2,3 or 4 but can't compile it for themselves, please help yourselves to my RPMs: ftp://tallyho.bc.nu/pub/steve/flightgear/0.9.9-pre3/RPMS/i386/FlightGear-0.9.9.pre3-0.FC.i386.rpm

[Flightgear-devel] Re: plib update: gui themes pink input fields, PUSTRING_MAX

2005-11-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 11 November 2005 13:38: There have no problems been reported for plib cvs/head. I take that back. There was also some network code committed to the net/ directory that crashes fgfs. I assume that this will be reverted very soon. :-( m.

[Flightgear-devel] Possible bug in yasim (not sure though?)

2005-11-11 Thread George Patterson
Hi All, I have compiled and installed pre3 and noticed that I was not able to load the b1900d (my preferred plane), as FlightGear would load until the terrian appears and the splash screen starts to dissolve. At this point, flightgear is in a loop with some high pitched beeps. (That would normall

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Ladislav Michnovič
2005/11/11, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is the reason why I proposed to release a patch: http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/sunpos.diff Great work. Thanks, but there is still moonpos.cxx which needs to be replaced. Erik I'd also prefer to have this new code in 0.9.9. Regards

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: If you could run the clock forward a year or two or five or 10 and verify that the new code matches the results of the existing code within acceptable tolerences, then I think I'd be ok with sneaking it into v0.9.9 Both 1970 and 2025 seem to work properly. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3 xglobe licence issue

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Ladislav Michnovič wrote: 2005/11/11, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is the reason why I proposed to release a patch: http://www.a1.nl/~ehofman/fgfs/download/sunpos.diff Great work. Thanks, but there is still moonpos.cxx which needs to be replaced. I've removed moonpos.[ch]xx for this

[Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Steve Hosgood
The main fgfs website only lists scenery for 0.9.8 Is world scenery for 0.9.9 waiting for a stable, offical 0.9.9 release first? Steve ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

[Flightgear-devel] OT: A380 arrived in EDHI (Hamburg-Finkenwerder)

2005-11-11 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi everybody! Last tuesday, the A380 serial number 2 (F-WXXL) came to the airbus site in Hamburg to get a new painting and the interior. They will also do the evacuation test and some others here. This is the first A380 that came to Hamburg for a full-stop after a short fly-by visit some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Review (was: Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?)

2005-11-11 Thread Thomas Förster
If someone needs translation into another language, you might try to translate the web page using google translation. http:// www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en The english language version is here: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Steve Hosgood wrote: The main fgfs website only lists scenery for 0.9.8 Is world scenery for 0.9.9 waiting for a stable, offical 0.9.9 release first? There is a current world scenery rebuild in progress. We are currently hung up on a data processing glitch that is being worked on. The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: There is a current world scenery rebuild in progress. We are currently hung up on a data processing glitch that is being worked on. The scenery and the source release can and will happen independently. Rebuilding the world (and trying to fix bugs and improve the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: A380 arrived in EDHI (Hamburg-Finkenwerder)

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Torsten Dreyer wrote: An aerial foto of EDHI is here http://www.eddh.de/info/landeinfo-ergebnisb.php?ueicao=EDHI would be nice to have the current version of EDHI included in our airports database :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Strange colors in spash screen

2005-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I wish it was that simple. But it does this no matter what aircraft I select. The only change is in the colors really.Any other mac users with this problem?On 11/11/05, Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 10 Nov 2005 18:01, Arthur Wiebe wrote:

[Flightgear-devel] try ... catch ... throw (up)

2005-11-11 Thread Jon Berndt
I've been trying to use exception handling in a particularly appropriate place in JSBSim, but am having little success, and it's got me confused. I have a section where I am reading in some data. If it is inappropriate, I need to let the user know and exit. Here's what I'm doing: In the Table

[Flightgear-devel] mi_cmd_stack_list_frames: Not enough frames in stack.

2005-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Now when it comes to debugging stuff like this I'm a newbie.When I select the default c172p aircraft everything works fine. But if I select say the f16 or A-10 then fgfs crashes.Here's the output from gdb. Loading program into debugger… Program loaded.sharedlibrary apply-load-rules all Attaching

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Steve Hosgood
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 15:14, Curtis L. Olson wrote: There is a current world scenery rebuild in progress. We are currently hung up on a data processing glitch that is being worked on. The scenery and the source release can and will happen independently. I'll just wait then. Thanks Steve

[Flightgear-devel] Ear Candy: intro.mp3

2005-11-11 Thread Kevin Jones
Hi, There's a file in the base package /data/Sounds/intro.mp3 The filename suggests this is introduction music presumably played during the FG boot. I have CVS FG compiled with Cygwin for Win32 (using Norman Vine's pre-compiled OpenAL libraries in case OpenAL is suspicious here). Windows Media

Re: [Flightgear-devel] mi_cmd_stack_list_frames: Not enough frames in stack.

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Arthur Wiebe wrote: Now when it comes to debugging stuff like this I'm a newbie. When I select the default c172p aircraft everything works fine. But if I select say the f16 or A-10 then fgfs crashes. Here's the output from gdb. http://www.codecomments.com/archive242-2004-4-170396.html The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ear Candy: intro.mp3

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Kevin Jones wrote: Hi, There's a file in the base package /data/Sounds/intro.mp3 The filename suggests this is introduction music presumably played during the FG boot. I have CVS FG compiled with Cygwin for Win32 (using Norman Vine's pre-compiled OpenAL libraries in case OpenAL is suspicious

Re: [Flightgear-devel] mi_cmd_stack_list_frames: Not enough frames in stack.

2005-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
OK,But then why when I select the A-10 or f16 fgfs crashes? But when selecting the c172p and j3cub there is no problem?I'll do a bit more testing.It almost seems to be a problem with the actual aircraft. On 11/11/05, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arthur Wiebe wrote: Now when it comes to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Friday 11 November 2005 17:14, Curtis L. Olson wrote: The new world will be based on SRTM v2 data supplimented with USGS DEM data to fill in the voids where possible, i.e. in the usa. The grand canyon and rhode island will be much better. These places glitched out in SRTM and portions

Re: [Flightgear-devel] mi_cmd_stack_list_frames: Not enough frames in stack.

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Arthur Wiebe wrote: OK, But then why when I select the A-10 or f16 fgfs crashes? But when selecting the c172p and j3cub there is no problem? The only commonality between the A-10 and f-16 is the turbine sound file?? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Paul Surgeon wrote: There is 100% void free SRTM data here : http://srtm.csi.cgiar.org/ As best as I can see from their site, they just interpolated through the voids. That generally works fine and is pretty much what we did for the current scenery, but when you are missing big chunks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ear Candy: intro.mp3

2005-11-11 Thread Ladislav Michnovič
So can be this mp3 be removed or substitued with wav (ogg)? Regards Ladislav. 2005/11/11, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: FlightGear doesn't use OpenAL for MP3 playback. In fact, it isn't even supported. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I just finished removing the remaining duplicates at San Francisco downtown - at least I think I did so. Tomorrow, when the next export is done, will prove if I did it right :-) Jon kindly triggered a fresh export and I took the freedom to place the current set of base

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible bug in yasim (not sure though?)

2005-11-11 Thread Andy Ross
George Patterson wrote: I have compiled and installed pre3 and noticed that I was not able to load the b1900d Yeah, that was me. The patch yesterday for turn off the engines when out of fuel broke the solver for turbine aircraft. Fixed. That'll teach me to add features right before release.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Jon kindly triggered a fresh export and I took the freedom to place the current set of base package objects on my FTP server. Unfortunately my FlightGear test machine refuses to run FlightGear this afternoon (it simply crashes after two minutes) so I'm unable to test this

[Flightgear-devel] compiling Simgear...

2005-11-11 Thread syd
Hi all ... Had some problems with latest CVS ... so I wiped out and downloaded simgear and flightgear again from CVS. I get an error now compiling Simgear . I cant cut and paste from the terminal but make stops at : [visual_enviro.o]Error 1 Has anyone run across this before? ... I get so much

[Flightgear-devel] V9.9 test run

2005-11-11 Thread rhett3
I compiled 9.9 test version on my Thinkpad T42 (I'm on the road) and after loading the cloud file, it worked for the default Cessna. However, when I tried the Citation I got the following messages, and it would not take off. It also had a couple of the instruments on the left side o f the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Oliver C.
On Friday 11 November 2005 18:40, Curtis L. Olson wrote: As best as I can see from their site, they just interpolated through the voids. That generally works fine and is pretty much what we did for the current scenery, but when you are missing big chunks of things like the grand canyon or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] mi_cmd_stack_list_frames: Not enough frames in stack.

2005-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I've compiled a list of all the aircraft included in fgfs-base 0.9.9pre3 that do and don't work:+737-.#A-10cl-A-10cl-A-10fl+bo105+c172p-2dpanel+c172p+c310-yasim+c310dpm-3d-c310-3d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] mi_cmd_stack_list_frames: Not enough frames in stack.

2005-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
OK I found the problem. I hope.In A-10cl-set.xml I removed the following line: splash-textureAircraft/A-10/A-10-splash.rgb/splash-textureAnd it worked. So it seems something is broken in whatever loads these rgb files. The file does not look corrupted as it opens fine in QuickTime.On 11/11/05,

[Flightgear-devel] compile error for pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Stewart Andreason
Since Flightgear-0.9.9-pre2 compiled fine without any problems, I was surprised to see this: if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -DPKGLIBDIR=\/usr/local/share/FlightGear\ -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -MT fg_init.o -MD -MP -MF

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compile error for pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Andy Ross
Stewart Andreason wrote: Since Flightgear-0.9.9-pre2 compiled fine without any problems, I was surprised to see this: fg_init.cxx:1581: error: `setRealtimeProperty' undeclared This is SimGear version skew. You need to use the properly matched version of SimGear, but are probably building

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: A380 arrived in EDHI (Hamburg-Finkenwerder)

2005-11-11 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Torsten Dreyer schrieb: Hi everybody! Last tuesday, the A380 serial number 2 (F-WXXL) came to the airbus site in Hamburg to get a new painting and the interior. They will also do the .. An aerial foto of EDHI is here http://www.eddh.de/info/landeinfo-ergebnisb.php?ueicao=EDHI but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?

2005-11-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 11, 2005 06:23 am, Martin Spott wrote: Ima Sudonim wrote: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux- user.de%2Fausgabe%2F2005%2F11%2F070-flightgear%2Flangpair=de% 7Cenhl=ensafe=offie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8prev=%2Flanguage_tools Oh yeah: flies are still an expensive

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Friday 11 November 2005 22:27, Oliver C. wrote: Isn't SRTM data version 2 allready corrected manually? That's what i thought, when i heard sth. about SRTM v2. Best Regards, Oliver C. Well yes SRTM version 2 has had some corrections made to it including flattening the areas covered by

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] Re: SEGV with ATIS

2005-11-11 Thread Pigeon
Figured out the problem with ATIS voice. It's in SimGear with the code for OpenAL/Alut 1.1, whereby with in sample_openal.cxx, alutCreateBufferFromFile() does not give us the raw sound data, and ATCVoice depends on it, which leaves the data and the data size uninitialized. The patch used

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compile error for pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Stewart Andreason
I _knew_ it was something simple... I guess one prerequisite at http://www.flightgear.org/Downloads/source.shtml needs to be updated. Thanks Andy Stewart Andreason wrote: Since Flightgear-0.9.9-pre2 compiled fine without any problems, I was surprised to see this: fg_init.cxx:1581: error:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Oliver C. wrote: On Friday 11 November 2005 18:40, Curtis L. Olson wrote: As best as I can see from their site, they just interpolated through the voids. That generally works fine and is pretty much what we did for the current scenery, but when you are missing big chunks of things like

[Flightgear-devel] Problem report related to strange splash screens and crashes with certain aircraft

2005-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I think this report basically pins down two of my problems.First, where spash screens on startup showed up as strange color stipes. And second, where certain aircraft which define their own spash screen crash fgfs. I got this report when trying to load the c310 (pre3).Hopefully either one of you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] LibGL error

2005-11-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I am also getting GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest error. This is so darn annoying! I used to be able to get around this problem by migrating back to XFree, or failing that, start XServer under 16-bit depth. Now, I can't go with either option: Debian has moved onto Xorg, and SDL doesn't allow me

[Flightgear-devel] diff for browser change for mac os x to use safari

2005-11-11 Thread Ima Sudonim
With this change, FlightGear on Mac OS X launches the mac os x Safari browser instead of netscape (w/o this change, the browser won't launch without netscape installed, and netscape isn't one of the installed mac os x browsers). thank you Ima Index: FlightGear/src/Main/options.cxx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Review (was: Which aircraft to include in v0.9.9?)

2005-11-11 Thread George Patterson
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 16:13 +0100, Thomas Förster wrote: A slightly outdated version of FlightGear is installed for Suse via Yast and via Apt for Debian. For the newest release you have to compile the source code yourself [1]. For Mandrake 10.2, Fedora Core 3 and the newest version 5.10 of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Citation pitch down divergence. Fixed?

2005-11-11 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 11 Nov 2005 02:47, Josh Babcock wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: On Thursday 10 Nov 2005 20:20, Andy Ross wrote: After some prodding from Curt, I finally spent a few hours yesterday tracking down the pitch down discontinuity in the Citation. Well, I didn't find a discontinuity. I can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Citation pitch down divergence. Fixed?

2005-11-11 Thread Josh Babcock
Lee Elliott wrote: On Friday 11 Nov 2005 02:47, Josh Babcock wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: On Thursday 10 Nov 2005 20:20, Andy Ross wrote: After some prodding from Curt, I finally spent a few hours yesterday tracking down the pitch down discontinuity in the Citation. Well, I didn't find a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] mi_cmd_stack_list_frames: Not enough frames in stack.

2005-11-11 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 11 Nov 2005 17:35, Erik Hofman wrote: Arthur Wiebe wrote: OK, But then why when I select the A-10 or f16 fgfs crashes? But when selecting the c172p and j3cub there is no problem? The only commonality between the A-10 and f-16 is the turbine sound file?? Erik Agreed - I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] V9.9 test run

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I compiled 9.9 test version on my Thinkpad T42 (I'm on the road) and after loading the cloud file, it worked for the default Cessna. However, when I tried the Citation I got the following messages, and it would not take off. It also had a couple of the instruments on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v0.0.9-pre3

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon Stockill wrote: The following files probably *shouldn't* be there: Aircraft/A-10/.#A-10cl-set.xml.1.6 Aircraft/c172/Models/.#c172p.ac.1.1 Aircraft/c172/Panels/.#default.xml.1.3 Aircraft/c172/Panels/.#c172-panel.xml.1.8 Aircraft/c172/Panels/.#c172-panel.xml.1.4

[Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Pigeon
Speaking of scenery, there are still people from time to time having trouble installing new sceneries. (The whole Scenery/ vs Scenery/Terrain/ and Scenery/Objects/ issues). I think it's worthwhile updating the docs and the getstart guide with these details. It's quite well described at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 11, 2005 08:59 pm, Pigeon wrote: Today 08:59:41 pm       Speaking of scenery, there are still people from time to time having trouble installing new sceneries. (The whole Scenery/ vs Scenery/Terrain/ and Scenery/Objects/ issues). I think it's worthwhile updating the docs and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] diff for browser change for mac os x to use safari

2005-11-11 Thread James Turner
On 12 Nov 2005, at 00:58, Ima Sudonim wrote:With this change, FlightGear on Mac OS X launches the mac os x Safari browser instead of netscape (w/o this change, the browser won't launch without netscape installed, and netscape isn't one of the installed mac os x browsers). This approach seems silly

[Flightgear-devel] Is it any mistake?

2005-11-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On November 11, 2005 08:05 pm, Gerard ROBIN wrote: Le vendredi 11 novembre 2005 à 19:47 -0500, Ampere K. Hardraade a écrit : On November 11, 2005 07:32 pm, Gerard ROBIN wrote: DO http://ghours.club.fr/fgfs-tux.tar.gz Is it GPL'ed? If so, it will be a good idea to put it into

[Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 repost

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Culp
Due to underwhelming response to my previous post concerning a test run of 0.9.9-pre2, I'll repost now. Here is the console output while running the F-16: Dent: .Dent: ..Dent: EHAMopening file: /home/dave/FlightGear-0.9.9-pre2/data/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 repost

2005-11-11 Thread George Patterson
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 20:17 -0600, Dave Culp wrote: Due to underwhelming response to my previous post concerning a test run of 0.9.9-pre2, I'll repost now. Here is the console output while running the F-16: Dent: .Dent: ..Dent: EHAMopening file:

[Flightgear-devel] CVS SIGSEGV?

2005-11-11 Thread Josh Babcock
I just did a cvs up and when I run fg I get this strace output . . . ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7, 0x6447, 0) = 0 ioctl(7,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 repost

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Culp
On Friday 11 November 2005 08:31 pm, George Patterson wrote: /home/dave/FlightGear-0.9.9-pre2/data/Aircraft/c172r/Models/c172-dpm.ac Does this file exist? It exists in CVS data, but not in 0.9.9-pre2 data. I think the underlying question is the more interesting one. Why is FG trying to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 0.9.9 repost

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Dave Culp wrote: Due to underwhelming response to my previous post concerning a test run of 0.9.9-pre2, I'll repost now. Here is the console output while running the F-16: Dent: .Dent: ..Dent: EHAMopening I can get rid of the Dent ... debugging output in Airport/simple.cxx which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] diff for browser change for mac os x to use safari

2005-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I agree with James. I've been using the --open-with option for sometime in the mac builds which is set to open. This opens the url is whatever is the default browser.On 11/12/05, James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Nov 2005, at 00:58, Ima Sudonim wrote: With this change, FlightGear on Mac

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible bug in yasim (not sure though?)

2005-11-11 Thread George Patterson
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 10:04 -0800, Andy Ross wrote: George Patterson wrote: I have compiled and installed pre3 and noticed that I was not able to load the b1900d Yeah, that was me. The patch yesterday for turn off the engines when out of fuel broke the solver for turbine aircraft.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Possible bug in yasim (not sure though?)

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
George Patterson wrote: Thanks Andy. I just completed a nice flight from KSFO to KLAX with 3D clouds turned on. Mistakenly misread 25L as being 24L. George Ooops, stop by the FAA office, do not pass Go, do not collet $200 ... Curt. -- Curtis Olson

[Flightgear-devel] Runtime error 0.9.9 on Debian/Testing

2005-11-11 Thread Alex Perry
I haven't tried to debug this yet, but thought I'd report it. $ fgfs opening file: /usr/local/share/FlightGear/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat /usr/local/share/FlightGear/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat RenderTexture Error: glXCreateGLXPbufferPtr() failed. Initialising callsign using

[Flightgear-devel] diff for browser change for mac os x to use safari

2005-11-11 Thread Ima Sudonim
Arthur and James, Yes, I agree it's silly, but currently help was broken on my two mac systems (giving a log message that netscape couldn't be found), followed by a dialog that my browser was started. It's really important to me to have browser-based help work on 0.9.9... I forgot that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Runtime error 0.9.9 on Debian/Testing

2005-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex Perry wrote: I haven't tried to debug this yet, but thought I'd report it. $ fgfs opening file: /usr/local/share/FlightGear/Navaids/carrier_nav.dat /usr/local/share/FlightGear/Navaids/TACAN_freq.dat RenderTexture Error: glXCreateGLXPbufferPtr() failed. Initialising callsign using

[Flightgear-devel] OT: FYI, mac os x developers, xcode 2.2 has been released

2005-11-11 Thread Ima Sudonim
According to apple developer connection (ADC) news, Apple's xcode 2.2 has been released. It would be nice to know that the new fixes haven't broken FlightGear... It is an 834 MB disk image update for mac os x 10.4.x. Download Newly Released Xcode 2.2 Today Latest tools make building

[Flightgear-devel] c172-dpm.ac

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Culp
The message: WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open '/home/dave/FlightGear-0.9.9-pre2/data/Aircraft/c172r/Models/c172-dpm.ac' for reading appears all the time now because FGAIMgr::init() attempts to pre-load this model even if the AI-Traffic system is disabled (and it's disabled by default).

[Flightgear-devel] PropertyList over network

2005-11-11 Thread Jeff McBride
Hello All, I am considering using a property tree similar to that in Flightgear for a UAV ground control application, and I have a question for the developers on the list. Has anyone ever looked into creating a system to share a common property tree between two computers over a network

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: 0.9.9 scenery?

2005-11-11 Thread Martin Spott
Pigeon wrote: Another thing is a lot of people expect scenery to be scenery + 3d buildings/objects. While, when you download scenery from FG's site they are pretty much terrain only. This is in fact everything we have for most parts of the world until people start populating their