Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real flight playback with FG, based on recorded GPS data

2004-11-12 Thread Olivier Soussiel
" maner?   Olivier - Original Message - From: Olivier Soussiel To: FlightGear Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:33 AM Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Real flight playback with FG,based on recorded GPS data   I finallely ended up using a Kalman filter to enhanc

[Flightgear-devel] Real flight playback with FG, based on recorded GPS data

2004-11-11 Thread Olivier Soussiel
  I finallely ended up using a Kalman filter to enhance Pitch and Roll restitution for real flight playback, based on GPS data.   I used the open source Bayesian Filtering Classes : Bayes++, in conjunction with Boost for the linear algebra part. Both are excellent libraries, for more details

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > Yes, I've heard that the lower end IMU stuff (i.e. < $100,000) is pretty > bad in terms of fine grained accuracy ... There are two steps between solid-state- and $100k IMU's. _Simple_ FOG's (Fibre Optic Gyros) ($6k at X-Bow) translate a "moving pi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: [ autopilot.sf.net ] Yes, they've hovered a heli. Even though this is already a difficult task not only for a 'manual' pilot but also for a computer, this is by far not sufficient for my needs. I need the computer to stabilize the heli in situations where the demands go beyond t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Martin Spott wrote: > >If you spend $6k at X-Bow you already get a FOG-based IMU. This is the > >sort of things I was looking at for my partially autonomous heli (see > >below), but this sort of equipment out of the price range I can pay. > > Yeah, that's pretty tough f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-11 Thread David Megginson
David Megginson wrote: It would give you a very rough, slightly slipping turn, I'd think. There'd be a risk of a snap roll (and possible spin) at slower speeds, if you got to the point that one of the wings stalled. That should have been a "skidding" turn. All the best, David -- Majority rule on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-11 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: The question is, with an auto-pilot forcing the wings level, how effective would rudder only steering be. I'm guessing not all that effective, but at R/C scales is it effective enough to control heading and self navigate? It would give you a very rough, slightly slipping

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-11 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: > > Not quite. The co-pilot does one thing (but one thing well from what I > read). It keeps itself level with the horizon. That's it. It has no > gyros. It fits inline between your receiver and your servos. So as I > understand it, it will only kick in when you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Exactly! I'm trying to decide if I want to mount the IR sensor on some sort of gimble and vary the sensor attitude to control the aircraft attitude, or do I just want to hard mount the sensor and try and steer with the rudder while the copilot fight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-11 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Exactly! I'm trying to decide if I want to mount the IR sensor on some sort of gimble and vary the sensor attitude to control the aircraft attitude, or do I just want to hard mount the sensor and try and steer with the rudder while the copilot fights to keep the wings lev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: If you spend $6k at X-Bow you already get a FOG-based IMU. This is the sort of things I was looking at for my partially autonomous heli (see below), but this sort of equipment out of the price range I can pay. Yeah, that's pretty tough for most people's home budget. I imagin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Norman Vine wrote: Yup, using 3 differential GPS units has become a 'standard' way of doing this http://www.fig.net/pub/proceedings/korea/full-papers/pdf/session17/stathas-karabelas-liapakis-psarianos-kontaratos.pdf http://waas.stanford.edu/~wwu/papers/gps/PDF/DeLorenzoIEEEPLANS04.pdf Cool, the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-09 Thread Norman Vine
Curtis L. Olson writes: > > Mat Churchill wrote: > > >Hoping to pick up on flying lessons again and was wondering if I can > >record NMEA flight data of my lessons and play it back in FG ? > >To add to this does anyone know of a way of recording bank angle / glide > >path in a format usable by FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-09 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > If you look around (u-nav.com, micropilot.com, etc.) there are a number > of companies out there making IMU solutions that hit several different > price ranges (and presumably a large range of quality/accuracy.) This > is an area where you get what you pay for. And

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-09 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Mat Churchill wrote: Hoping to pick up on flying lessons again and was wondering if I can record NMEA flight data of my lessons and play it back in FG ? To add to this does anyone know of a way of recording bank angle / glide path in a format usable by FG ? Playback of real flights would be a nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-09 Thread David Megginson
Mat Churchill wrote: Hoping to pick up on flying lessons again and was wondering if I can record NMEA flight data of my lessons and play it back in FG ? To add to this does anyone know of a way of recording bank angle / glide path in a format usable by FG ? Playback of real flights would be a nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:34:04 +0100, Mat wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > > Hoping to pick up on flying lessons again and was wondering if I can > record NMEA flight data of my lessons and play it back in FG ? ..oughtta work. Some gps gear also record static air pressure and te

[Flightgear-devel] Real Flight PLayback ?

2004-07-09 Thread Mat Churchill
Hi All, Hoping to pick up on flying lessons again and was wondering if I can record NMEA flight data of my lessons and play it back in FG ? To add to this does anyone know of a way of recording bank angle / glide path in a format usable by FG ? Playback of real flights would be a nice feature. Be