On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 18:36, Josh Babcock wrote:
Someone should commit this to CVS too.
Or at least, add the finished tarball on the Additional Aircraft
Download page on flightgear.org. Are all those additional aircraft
built from the main CVS? I'd assumed they were maintained by their
Steve Hosgood wrote:
Whatever, there's still a bit of minor finishing off to do before the
Colditz Glider is ready for such a showcase.
Let me (or Curt) know whet it is. Once in CVS it will show up in the
download aircraft packages also.
Erik
On June 6, 2005 06:44 pm, Josh Babcock wrote:
Well, take a look at what I put in, no wires, though I could do that
with about zero trouble if people think it would add to the model.
Personally I don't think it would add much though. Also I think the bar
I put in there is pretty sensible.
Now
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 00:42, Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML.
If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good.
Otherwise, just controls and control surfaces.
Also, I didn't know what the rudder pedals looked like, so
Steve Hosgood wrote:
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 00:42, Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML.
If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good.
Otherwise, just controls and control surfaces.
Also, I didn't know what the rudder
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 19:44, Josh Babcock wrote:
Well, take a look at what I put in, no wires, though I could do that
with about zero trouble if people think it would add to the model.
Personally I don't think it would add much though.
Agreed.
Also I think the bar
I put in there is pretty
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 00:42, Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML.
If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good.
Otherwise, just controls and control surfaces.
Also, I didn't know what the rudder pedals looked like, so
On Sunday 05 Jun 2005 16:41, Josh Babcock wrote:
Smarter instrument
Shadow
.ac tweaks
That's a really nice model - the textures are great, as is the animated
yaw-string. Makes me wish I had the ability to produce these things - I do
regularly try, but always give up in disgust quite
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:35:03 +0100, Steve wrote in message
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On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 00:42, Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation
XML. If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look
good. Otherwise, just controls
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 14:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:35:03 +0100, Steve wrote in message
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The POWs built the whole
thing out of floorboards and intended it to survive just a single
flight. They will have done nothing fancy.
..don't be too sure [...]
Steve Hosgood wrote:
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 14:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:35:03 +0100, Steve wrote in message
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The POWs built the whole
thing out of floorboards and intended it to survive just a single
flight. They will have done nothing fancy.
..don't be
Le samedi 04 juin 2005 19:37 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
All done. Production version of the model at
http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/colditz/colditz.tgz
This includes a set file and a whole new Models directory. The only
thing that needs to be done is put an AC_VRP in
Josh Babcock wrote:
Josh Babcock wrote:
Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 19:42 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML.
If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good.
Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 19:42 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML.
If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good.
Otherwise, just controls and control surfaces.
Josh Babcock wrote:
Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 19:42 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML.
If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good.
Otherwise, just controls and
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 01:46, Josh Babcock wrote:
Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le jeudi 02 juin 2005 20:16 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
Not quite done yet, still need some stuff in the cockpit, landing gear
There's not much of either of those! I put some instruments on my
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 09:51 +0100, Steve Hosgood a crit :
http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/colditz/colditz.tgz
Something to play with at lunchtime!
Wohhh
Very impressive, congratulation, it is a must of art.
as an extension we could use the (coming)
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 01:46, Josh Babcock wrote:
Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le jeudi 02 juin 2005 20:16 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
Not quite done yet, still need some stuff in the cockpit, landing gear
and some animations. I'm not planning on putting in a pilot, though
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 14:08 +0100, Steve Hosgood a crit :
OK, I give up!
Unzipped .tgz into 'Models' directory of colditz glider. Moved the .rgb
and .ac files to the 'Models' directory itself (they were in a 'Colditz'
subdirectory otherwise). Checked that 'colditz-set.xml' mentioned
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 14:31, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 14:08 +0100, Steve Hosgood a crit :
OK, I give up!
You should have
model
pathAircraft/colditz/Models/colditz.ac/path
/model
Yeah, I had that in the 'colditz-set.xml' file.
I noticed that the c172p
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 15:23 +0100, Steve Hosgood a crit :
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 14:31, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 14:08 +0100, Steve Hosgood a crit :
OK, I give up!
You should have
model
pathAircraft/colditz/Models/colditz.ac/path
/model
Yeah,
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 17:02 +0200, Gerard ROBIN a crit :
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 15:23 +0100, Steve Hosgood a crit :
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 14:31, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 14:08 +0100, Steve Hosgood a crit :
OK, I give up!
You should have
model
Le vendredi 03 juin 2005 19:42 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, model's done, same address. Now I'm going to do the animation XML.
If I'm really cool I'll be able to make the wind ribbon look good.
Otherwise, just controls and control surfaces.
Also, I didn't know
Josh Babcock wrote:
Steve Hosgood wrote:
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 02:37, Josh Babcock wrote:
I'll see what more I can deduce tonight.
Steve
Didn't get anything much done, sadly, but I have taken a look at your
fuselage images, Josh. Nice work!
Just an update.
Le jeudi 02 juin 2005 20:16 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
Not quite done yet, still need some stuff in the cockpit, landing gear
and some animations. I'm not planning on putting in a pilot, though if
enough people want one I can give it a shot.
Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Le jeudi 02 juin 2005 20:16 -0400, Josh Babcock a crit :
Josh Babcock wrote:
Not quite done yet, still need some stuff in the cockpit, landing gear
and some animations. I'm not planning on putting in a pilot, though if
enough people want one I can give it a shot.
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:57, Martin Spott wrote:
BTW, I don't remember if these URL's have already been
mentioned:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/naziprison/glider.html
http://www.colditz-4c.com/glider-l.jpe
I think they were mentioned before. I had already seen them as part of
my
Steve Hosgood wrote:
Does anyone here actually live in or near Colditz?
Our long-time Getting Started manual maintainer Michal Basler lives
in that region. BTW, I don't remember if these URL's have already been
mentioned:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/naziprison/glider.html
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 02:37, Josh Babcock wrote:
I'll see what more I can deduce tonight.
Steve
Didn't get anything much done, sadly, but I have taken a look at your
fuselage images, Josh. Nice work!
Just an update.
http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/colditz/colditz1.jpg
Steve Hosgood wrote:
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 02:37, Josh Babcock wrote:
I'll see what more I can deduce tonight.
Steve
Didn't get anything much done, sadly, but I have taken a look at your
fuselage images, Josh. Nice work!
Just an update.
I've just come across a few more details in:
http://www.chicagolandglidercouncil.com/newsletter_files/CLGCNewsletterFeb02.pdf
There's a comment by the pilot who flew the replica, to the effect that
the glide ratio was about 18:1
That's pretty impressive!
There's also a photo of the glider just
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 18:52, Josh Babcock wrote:
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
You can always use sound as an indication of speed. ;-)
No smiley needed - when flying in seat of the pants mode, that's one
of the important instruments at your disposal.
Record the sound of wind ripping across
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 18:30, Josh Babcock wrote:
So do you all want me to go ahead with a model? We can work out
instrumentation issues later.
Please do. Those .gif files on the URL I mentioned yesterday are pretty
much all the information published on the shape of the thing, though Pat
Have you got that Plans:
http://www.ean.co.uk/Data/Bygones/History/Article/WW2/Colditz/html/body_glider_plans.htm
--
Gerard
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On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 11:34, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
http://www.ean.co.uk/Data/Bygones/History/Article/WW2/Colditz/html/body_glider_plans.htm
That's a straight scan of the plans exactly as presented in P. Reid's
The Latter Days at Colditz. Much the same as the .gif files I've
referenced earlier,
Steve Hosgood wrote:
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 10:11, Steve Hosgood (that's me) wrote:
Width of aileron = 14 inches (from which length of aileron must be
about 14 ft to reach the stated aileron area of 16.5sq ft, allowing for
the rounding-off of the shape near the wingtip).
I'll see what more I
Gerard ROBIN wrote:
Have you got that Plans:
http://www.ean.co.uk/Data/Bygones/History/Article/WW2/Colditz/html/body_glider_plans.htm
Yup. Just googled that one in fact.
Josh
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Steve Hosgood wrote:
Disclaimer:
This is a toy. It's fun, and probably isn't too far wrong from modelling
the real Colditz Glider. However, I've never even *seen* the Colditz
Glider replica (in the Imperial War Museum now, apparently) far less
flown it. So I don't know.
It is - assuming it's not
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 12:10, Jon Stockill wrote:
Steve Hosgood wrote:
Disclaimer:
This is a toy [...] I've never even *seen* the Colditz
Glider replica (in the Imperial War Museum now, apparently)
[...] assuming it's not been moved it's right up on the top floor.
There a few rather
Steve Hosgood wrote:
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 12:10, Jon Stockill wrote:
Steve Hosgood wrote:
Disclaimer:
This is a toy [...] I've never even *seen* the Colditz
Glider replica (in the Imperial War Museum now, apparently)
[...] assuming it's not been moved it's right up on the top floor.
There a few
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 14:42, Jon Stockill wrote:
I bet you're running norton internet security aren't you :-)
Nope: Mozilla 1.7.3 on linux.
You'll need to fix your ad blocker.
Wasn't aware I was running with anything much more than standard Mozilla
defaults. I'll take a look sometime.
Steve Hosgood wrote:
Wasn't aware I was running with anything much more than standard Mozilla
defaults. I'll take a look sometime.
Hmm, very strange - it's usually windows users that have a problem, and
it's only certain versions of norton (I'm the sysadmin for that photos
site btw -
Josh Babcock wrote:
It doesn't look like it would be too hard to do a 3D model. Not having
to do instruments would only make it easier. I would suggest making a
custom HUD instead of grafting fake instruments onto the model. If
there's interest I think I could hack out a pretty nice textured model
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 15:24, Josh Babcock wrote:
It doesn't look like it would be too hard to do a 3D model. Not having
to do instruments would only make it easier. I would suggest making a
custom HUD instead of grafting fake instruments onto the model.
A HUD is *so* not 1944!
Point taken of
You'll notice a non-working digital ASI crept onto the panel somehow,
I've not spotted where that's coming from or I'd remove it!
That's the Netto Variometer I believe. It works.
Dave
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On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 16:43, Dave Culp wrote:
You'll notice a non-working digital ASI crept onto the panel somehow,
I've not spotted where that's coming from or I'd remove it!
That's the Netto Variometer I believe. It works.
Thanks, Dave.
One of yours, I believe!
No offence intended,
That's the Netto Variometer I believe. It works.
No offence intended, but I've just removed it from what will become the
next release of the Colditz Glider. It's a bit anachronistic! The other
instruments were at least available in 1944/45 even if not fitted to
this particular machine.
Steve Hosgood wrote:
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 16:43, Dave Culp wrote:
You'll notice a non-working digital ASI crept onto the panel somehow,
I've not spotted where that's coming from or I'd remove it!
That's the Netto Variometer I believe. It works.
Thanks, Dave.
One of yours, I believe!
On May 18, 2005 06:25 am, Steve Hosgood wrote:
The original glider had no instruments of course. For this model, I've
pinched the instruments panel from the Schweizer 2-33 that was already
in Flightgear. I did this to give me some idea of airspeed, to
compensate for not having the wind in my
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
On May 18, 2005 06:25 am, Steve Hosgood wrote:
The original glider had no instruments of course. For this model, I've
pinched the instruments panel from the Schweizer 2-33 that was already
in Flightgear. I did this to give me some idea of airspeed, to
compensate for
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