Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Curtis Olson wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Curt Olson wrote: I think we also need a good slogan or motto ... I kind of like: FlightGear: Educate, Entertain, Inspire. On the FSweekend posters, we had printed out: Naturally flying is free. I like it ;) I think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi, John Holden wrote: I'm using a fairly recent version of the CVS on Windows XP - I can't tell you which exactly at the moment, unfortunately - but whenever I land or take off from a center runway, I can't get the center runway texture to display, even though it's in the /Textures

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Daily FG .deb

2009-11-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Pete Morgan wrote: Indeed I have submitted my first TaxiDraw to Robin Peel, and wishing to move onto scenery next which is a grey area atmo (more later). You should also submit to Martin Spott as he's keeping a track of airport layouts as well. Quick question? how many users have been kicked

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Daily FG .deb

2009-11-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Stuart Buchanan wrote: However, reading further down, I think you're concerned about the effects of letting lots of children loose in the MP Environment. If you are particularly concerned, you could always run your own MP server. Reading the blog from FS Weekend I couldn't help but think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Daily FG .deb

2009-11-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik wrote Stuart Buchanan wrote: However, reading further down, I think you're concerned about the effects of letting lots of children loose in the MP Environment. If you are particularly concerned, you could always run your own MP server. Reading the blog from FS Weekend I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Daily FG .deb

2009-11-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: The ignore facility in the Network/Pilot List menu does something like that. You don't get any chat messages, but you can see the model. I don't know what the consequences of going beyond that might be ... You could compare it to an IRC channel where users can get ignored,

[Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots (was: Re: Daily FG .deb)

2009-11-14 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Erik Hofman wrote: You could compare it to an IRC channel where users can get ignored, kicked and even banned. Not that I'm propagating a kicking or banning facility but making them invisible for others (may be even upon request of the user) may provide a nice way for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots (was: Re: Daily FG .deb)

2009-11-14 Thread James Turner
On 14 Nov 2009, at 11:08, Anders Gidenstam wrote: Access to these properties could e.g. be via the pilot list as for MP-chat ignore. I'm not entirely sure it is a good idea to add this, though. OTOH if I really do not want to see or hear pilot X, then why not give me the option to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots (was: Re: Daily FG .deb)

2009-11-14 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Perhaps by adding a /ai/models/multiplayer/controls/show-model property (or similar) to each multiplayer entry that defaults to true (show) but can be set to false to hide the model of that pilot. Access to these properties could e.g. be via the pilot list as for MP-chat ignore. I'm not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots (was: Re: Daily FG .deb)

2009-11-14 Thread Scott Hamilton
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 13:02 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Yes, I also thought it sounded like groups, but I was thinking that the client would send a list of group-name strings that a user wanted to be part of when it sends the pilot call-sign and aircraft type information. This would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs-construct being killed

2009-11-14 Thread Martin Spott
Ron Jensen wrote: The rlimits are there (as I understand it) for the case where we are automatically batch generating the world, and a stuck tile would go un-noticed for extended periods of time. I'm convinced that batch-generating the entire World Sceney is still the way how the vast

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots (was: Re: Daily FG .deb)

2009-11-14 Thread Tom P
Hi Torsten That's an interesting concept, I was thinking about groups as well. But instead of writing extra code on top of the current client and server, could we use different ports on the server? Let me explain: if I understand correctly, the server already allows connection to port 5002 for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear MSVC9 Executable

2009-11-14 Thread Lee Qid
Hi Vivian, could you offer your release in a simple zip file as well please? Kind Regards, Josef 2009/11/13 Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net: Hi All, I'm trying some magic ju ju to make Fred re-appear :-). I've put together an install package for Windows based on today's cvs-head

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 09:09 +0100, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi, John Holden wrote: I'm using a fairly recent version of the CVS on Windows XP - I can't tell you which exactly at the moment, unfortunately - but whenever I land or take off from a center runway, I can't get the center

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TerraGear and International Runway Precision Markings

2009-11-14 Thread Ron Jensen
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 19:43 -0800, J. Holden wrote: Hello, I've been reading through a lot of the TerraGear code after I've read the center line problem but I'm interested in tackling a different problem. It doesn't help I don't have an intimate knowledge of C++, nor have I ever properly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ron Jensen wrote: It would be a trivial patch to genapts to always generate leading zeros, however it appears that all US General Aviation airports don't use the leading zero, US Military bases are mixed, and Europe uses leading zeros. Looking thru apt.dat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 12:36 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ron Jensen wrote: It would be a trivial patch to genapts to always generate leading zeros, however it appears that all US General Aviation airports don't use the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Ron Jensen wrote: I commented on the other European-ization thread (about precision marking differences) that perhaps genapts should take a flag for European or US style rendering? Martin pointed out that for the vast portion of airports and scenery areas of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds

2009-11-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
syd adams wrote: Stuart Buchanan wrote: I have an updated Rendering Options dialog on my home PC which attempts to lay out the rendering options in a more sensible fashion without resorting to another dialog. I'll post a screenshot tonight or tomorrow. OK , I had a feeling I misunderstood your

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 13:01 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Ron Jensen wrote: I commented on the other European-ization thread (about precision marking differences) that perhaps genapts should take a flag for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots

2009-11-14 Thread James Turner
On 14 Nov 2009, at 21:35, Jon Stockill wrote: I would suggest that this is a bad idea - ever increasing port requirements are simply going to annoy the people running the servers. It's really not the right way to solve the problem. Indeed, this is a geek-appeal solution, not a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: So certainly a flag would be useful if a developer wants individual control over a runway or an airport, but some sort of heuristic for the rest of the airports in the world would also be useful ... or some way to enhance the data file so a per-runway-end decision could be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots

2009-11-14 Thread Jon Stockill
Pete Morgan wrote: Tom P wrote: Hi Torsten That's an interesting concept, I was thinking about groups as well. But instead of writing extra code on top of the current client and server, could we use different ports on the server? Let me explain: if I understand correctly, the server

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots

2009-11-14 Thread Pete Morgan
Tom P wrote: Hi Torsten That's an interesting concept, I was thinking about groups as well. But instead of writing extra code on top of the current client and server, could we use different ports on the server? Let me explain: if I understand correctly, the server already allows

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ignoring MP pilots

2009-11-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Pete Morgan Tom P wrote: Hi Torsten That's an interesting concept, I was thinking about groups as well. But instead of writing extra code on top of the current client and server, could we use different ports on the server? Let me explain: if I understand correctly, the server

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds

2009-11-14 Thread syd adams
Looks good . Yeah maybe the runway lights should go in lighting... Just a thought , what about a 'rendering options' and 'view options' in the main menu , rather than a single view button ? At least lots of room in the view to add my FOV button :) On 11/14/09, Stuart Buchanan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Clouds

2009-11-14 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, Looks good . Yeah maybe the runway lights should go in lighting... Just a thought , what about a 'rendering options' and 'view options' in the main menu , rather than a single view button ? At least lots of room in the view to add  my FOV button :) As Tim is now slowly checking in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear MSVC9 Executable

2009-11-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Josef wrote: Hi Vivian, could you offer your release in a simple zip file as well please? Kind Regards, Josef 2009/11/13 Vivian Meazza vivian.mea...@lineone.net: Hi All, I'm trying some magic ju ju to make Fred re-appear :-). I've put together an install package for Windows

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Center Runway Issue

2009-11-14 Thread J. Holden
Yes, I understand that. My vision was the flag would be set before genapts is ran. Or are all airports generated at a single pass? If that's the case perhaps genapts should use the literal runway number from apt.dat, and apt.dat can be edited to replace the leading zero with a space on US GA

[Flightgear-devel] heads up -- effects for models

2009-11-14 Thread Tim Moore
I've just checked in code that applies effects to all models in FG. There's no documentation yet for how to use new features -- and not really any examples either; I want to shake out what the changes may have broken first. Animations, particularly material animations, may very likely be messed

[Flightgear-devel] International Runway Issue (leading zeros)

2009-11-14 Thread John Denker
On 11/14/2009 11:36 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: I suppose we could use some heuristic such as: 4 character airport code that do not start with K or P use a leading zero, and all other airports omit the leading zero? We could setup the code logic to be extensible if we find other countries that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear logo; Was: t-shirt give away

2009-11-14 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi, On Friday 13 November 2009 09:57:34 pm Torsten Dreyer wrote: Torsten BTW: The original mistake occurred at the translation from german language. Hope that's enough of a hint to know, who was that dork... HAHAHA, in retrospect, I did have a gut feeling that the slogan wasn't entirely