Re: [Flightgear-devel] Updated Cub and c172p for Rembrandt

2012-04-03 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Newer models of C172 has landing and taxi lights located in the front edge of the left wing. This can be seen on Cessna web site and I've seen it on planes built in 2008. Of course, if fg's C172 is from 1981 then the new placement of the lights probably does not apply. Cheers, Jari On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile Terragear-cs ?

2012-01-01 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2012-01-01 16.40, Clément de l'Hamaide wrote: When I remove all 21 | tee -a $LOGFILE and I replace it by a simple $LOGFILE I see many less information in terminal when script is running. It's very annoying to haven't information about step in terminal... For example, when the script

Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile Terragear-cs ?

2012-01-01 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2012-01-01 20.17, Geoff McLane wrote: But in doing this, as you point out, there is NO OUTPUT to the console... Except as Jari pointed out, you can start the script as a background process, and use a repeated tail command to view the end of the LOG in a console... Or even start the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jenkins mac build #871 fails to run on Snowleopard 10.6.8 and Lion 10.7.2

2011-12-26 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-12-26 10.56, James Turner wrote: On 25 Dec 2011, at 22:45, Jari Häkkinen wrote: The FlighGear package created in Build #871 (Dec 25, 2011 12:05:44 PM) does not run on two of my macs. 1. On the Snowleopard machine I get: What version of Xcode/Mac OS X is the Jenkins server using

[Flightgear-devel] Jenkins mac build #871 fails to run on Snowleopard 10.6.8 and Lion 10.7.2

2011-12-25 Thread Jari Häkkinen
The FlighGear package created in Build #871 (Dec 25, 2011 12:05:44 PM) does not run on two of my macs. 1. On the Snowleopard machine I get: Dyld Error Message: Library not loaded: /usr/lib/libapr-1.0.dylib Referenced from: /Users/jari/Desktop/FlightGear.app/Contents/MacOS/fgfs Reason:

[Flightgear-devel] [Patch] Suggestion to change file permissions of files in getstart git repository

2011-12-11 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi, This message is to the get started manual maintainers. There are some files with the executable permission bit set in the git repo. To reset the file mode please apply the attached a patch to the getstart git repo. The patch was created with command: git format-patch origin Cheers,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Snow line based on METAR

2011-12-07 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-12-07 09.02, Robert wrote: Does METAR contain this information? Not directly. METAR may contain information about gusty winds which is an indication of turbulence. Jari -- Cloud Services Checklist: Pricing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Misspelled aircraft name ?

2011-11-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
OSX can be case sensitive. It is not case sensitive by default however some of the OSX machines I use are. Do not assume OSX to be case-insensitive. Cheers, Jari Michael Sgier skrev 2011-11-05 13.38: Windows and OSX are not case sensitive, but Linux is.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 10.24, James Turner wrote: Actually, that's not quite accurate, but, the procedure is to ask, *having demonstrated yourself to be a sane and reasonable person who's likely to stick around longer than four weeks*. I'm a bit more liberal in this regard, but essentially anyone who's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 11.35, Heiko Schulz wrote: And who makes sure and decides that those people really keeps to all those rules? The project lead (or leader) should make decisions and of course be well in tune with the lead developers, developers, and with the fg community. As a bystander it is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 14.29, Curtis Olson wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:09 AM, James Turner wrote: On 27 Oct 2011, at 12:58, Jari Häkkinen wrote: Sorry for the rant-like appearance of this message. No need to apologise, I'd say it's 100% accurate - including the lack of a single leader

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Historic Screenshots

2011-10-23 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Try http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.flightgear.org I found the attached sunset over Grand Canyon from February 1999. Jari On 2011-10-23 20.07, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi All, I'm planning to give a talk at the upcoming FSWeekend, and hope to tell something about FlightGear's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

2011-10-20 Thread Jari Häkkinen
, I keep the changes that didn't make it into the official repository in my local repo. Cheers, Jari On 2011-10-20 10.07, Martin Spott wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: I support the split if only for the reason that aircraft maintainers will get commit rights to their private spheres in fg-land

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after

2011-10-19 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I actually lost track of who is doing what in the splitting of fgdata but there is a tremendous response pointing out issues related to the split. I want to express support for the splitting team. I support the split if only for the reason that aircraft maintainers will get commit rights to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGData Split Completed - a.k.a. Life after the Split

2011-10-19 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-19 21.12, Torsten Dreyer wrote: Another example: For the last release, we branched and tagged the repositories and well defined states. This was OK for three repositories (fg+sg+fgdata). Doing this manually for 300+ repos is a no and doing this scripted calls for trouble. But is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] Improved forests

2011-07-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-07-28 14.33, Gene Buckle wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Stefan Seifert wrote: On Thursday 28 July 2011 01:00:10 Hal V. Engel wrote: But there is one minor and very common issue with the code that should be fixed. In the for loop for (..; ..; j++) should be for (..; ..; ++j) if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] Improved forests

2011-07-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-07-28 15.22, Gene Buckle wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Jari Häkkinen wrote: Are you sure about that? I just tried it with a little example and at least gcc compiles both variants to the exact same assembly code. Tried it with and without -O2. That would freak me out. Doesn't ++j

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] Improved forests

2011-07-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-07-28 14.52, Jari Häkkinen wrote: That would freak me out. Doesn't ++j mean increment j, then test whereas j++ means test j, then increment? No, for a for loop for ( [1]; [2]; [3] ) where [3] is ++j will increment j before use. However, in an if-statement the complete statement

[Flightgear-devel] Shaders and ATI Radeon HD 4670

2011-06-25 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi all, I cannot use material shaders on my iMac (late 2009 model) equipped with an ATI graphics card (ATI Radeon HD 4670 256 MB VRAM). I only get a few fps standing on ground at an isolated airfield. There is almost no objects. Every 10 times I get 60 fps in cockpit view with no changes

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shaders and ATI Radeon HD 4670

2011-06-25 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-06-25 17.34, Gene Buckle wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: The most _likely_ cause is the ATI Radeon HD 4670/256 MB VRAM. The GeForce 8600M GT is known to be better at handling shaders. 256 Mb VRAM is in both cases a bit small for FG nowadays. There are other possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shaders and ATI Radeon HD 4670

2011-06-25 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-06-25 16.06, Vivian Meazza wrote: The most _likely_ cause is the ATI Radeon HD 4670/256 MB VRAM. The GeForce 8600M GT is known to be better at handling shaders. 256 Mb VRAM is in both cases a bit small for FG nowadays. There are other possible contributors to a low framerate - AI

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear development entered state feature-freeze until July, 17th 2011

2011-06-19 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Torsten Dreyer skrev 2011-06-17 21.47: Anticipating the release 2.4.0, we reached our first milestone today. The development streams for flightgear, simgear and fgdata on gitorious are now declared frozen. The above states quite clearly that testing is expected to be against the source

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Is FlightGear GPL2 and later or GPL2 only?

2011-04-06 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-04-06 14.08, HB-GRAL wrote: - Do other contributors of the origin repo have the right to change my origin licence assignment from GPLv2 to GPLv3, when they just pull and push the same code? (I really think: No.) I think anyone has the right to redistribute the code under GPLv3 if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Logos and licensing

2011-02-26 Thread Jari Häkkinen
26 feb 2011 kl. 19:37 skrev Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de: The question is still: how to proceed? Just pretend this discussion never was. That is, do whatever we did before the issue was raised. Are we prepared for the consequences of negative responses? Cheers,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Pro Flight Simulator disclaimer, accurate?

2011-01-14 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I have no time for detailed legalities of the message but one should note regarding GPL (at least v3 and probably v2, maybe it is time for fg to go v3?) 1) It is legal to fork a GPL project at any time if some conditions are met. In simple terms the forked project must provide their

Re: [Flightgear-devel] new install git hung up // xplane airport format

2011-01-09 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-01-09 17.52, Michael Sgier wrote: mich...@ubuntu:/media/Suse-Home/fgfs$ cd install/fgrun/bin mich...@ubuntu:/media/Suse-Home/fgfs/install/fgrun/bin$ ./fgrun ./fgrun: error while loading shared libraries: libosgParticle.so.70: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datapath name

2011-01-08 Thread Jari Häkkinen
The problem was introduced in November 2010 in commit http://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/commit/a6458c2ed64757b1f416b0035df142d29359239e The change of line 17 triggers the change of string 'FlightGear' to 'flightgear' in the Makefile. However, the change of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE is preferred since

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Datapath name

2011-01-08 Thread Jari Häkkinen
be a way to retain backward compatibility. But it will complicate autotools usage since it breaks standard autotools behaviour. Jari On 2011-01-08 21.47, James Turner wrote: On 8 Jan 2011, at 19:46, Jari Häkkinen wrote: The problem was introduced in November 2010 in commit http

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs configure error

2011-01-06 Thread Jari Häkkinen
It looks like there is a stray 2.0.0 version.h somewhere or your cpp-flags are pointing to the wrong place. In your fg/source directory there is a config.log file. Search for the string 'checking for SimGear 2.2.0 or newer' and you'll see some more details. Specifically the compile command

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Minor menu renaming

2010-12-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
For newcomers I'd say it is essential that there are close buttons. When new users try out software they won't browse any documentation. And I'd say that many (most?) users would get confused without close buttons. This seems to be an important non-issue. Maybe there already is an expert

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FPE while in-flight

2010-12-20 Thread Jari Häkkinen
ThorstenB skrev 2010-12-20 19.58: So, unfortunately, divisons-by-zero, processing with infinity or NaN (not-a-number) values isn't really uncommon for FG. And since the FG default is to ignore any FPE (i.e. not to use the --enable-fpe option), few people care (I guess). Personally I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cmake

2010-12-19 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-12-19 16.18, James Turner wrote: I've just pushed my work on CMake build files for SimGear and Flightgear, to Gitorious. These files are completely orthogonal to the existing autoconf/automake build, and are still a work in progress - a few people have been experimenting with them (big

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flightgear ./configure apr-1-config

2010-12-13 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-12-13 17.36, John Denker wrote: On 07/23/2010 05:12 AM, Csaba Halász wrote: ./configure: line 10540: apr-1-config: command not found ./configure: line 10541: apr-1-config: command not found That configure test is broken. I agree. I agree too but I do not agree on your solution.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flightgear ./configure apr-1-config

2010-12-13 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-12-13 21.11, Jari Häkkinen wrote: If we do not want to change the default behaviour wrt libsvn, then configure should check for svn_client.h before using apr-1-config. If svn devlibs are in place then apr is also installed since apr is a prerequisite for svn devlibs. Well

[Flightgear-devel] MacOSX Flightgear 64bit observation (patch included)

2010-12-07 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi Mac developers, In my quest to compile all fg related packages for 64 bit architecture (x86_64) I finally decided to compile the mac fg start up GUI (FlightGear) for 64 bits. The binary does not work, it starts up and exits with 2010-12-08 00:20:50.408 FlightGear[29071:903]

[Flightgear-devel] MacOSX FlightGear patch and question

2010-12-06 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi Mac developers, I decided to get rid of the message 2010-12-06 21:32:32.569 FlightGear[26052:903] *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x10020a330 of class NSThread autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking coming from the Mac flightgear start up GUI. The Net wisdom seems to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem updating fgdata from mapserver

2010-12-04 Thread Jari Häkkinen
mapserver git URL for fgdata works for me now. I get fg and simgear from gitorious. Thanks, Jari Martin Spott skrev 2010-12-03 18.55: Martin Spott wrote: Yup. The new machine is already alive (the web map should be available) but I'm still awaiting a chance to sync the latest changes from

[Flightgear-devel] Problem updating fgdata from mapserver

2010-12-02 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I am trying to update fg data with 'git pull' but keep getting connection refused: mapserver.flightgear.org[0: 137.110.116.31]: errno=Connection refused fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused) In my .git/config I have url = git://mapserver.flightgear.org/fgdata/ Can someone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem updating fgdata from mapserver

2010-12-02 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-12-02 15.07, Csaba Halász wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Jari Häkkinenj...@flygarna.se wrote: I am trying to update fg data with 'git pull' but keep getting connection refused: Can someone resolve the issue on mapserver or explain what I am doing wrong if the problem is on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft model/cockpit rating

2010-12-01 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-12-01 15.18, Vivian Meazza wrote: The point is that your rating system can't possibly pick this up. It is a subjective opinion of the attractiveness of a cockpit. Or, as I said, a beauty contest. This does have some value, and we certainly gain from drawing attention to those models

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Weather, Nredering and environment bugs

2010-11-22 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-11-21 18.01, manday wrote: Once you tell me what exactly I should file the bug on I will get some screenshots to give you a better idea. There is a bugs page at the wiki, http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Bugs, and an issue tracker at http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] QA

2010-11-22 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-11-21 12.44, James Turner wrote: On 21 Nov 2010, at 01:43, Heiko Schulz wrote: I prefer fixing instead of releasing Fixers and releasers can be different people. Of course, releasers need to be given the power of steering fixers focus. (Yes I know that people are working voluntarily

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help needed for Flight Gear compilation

2010-11-09 Thread Jari Häkkinen
To set environment variables in Windows 7 (and Vista) see http://yuji.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/django-on-windows-setting-path-environment-variable/ or http://www.itechtalk.com/thread3595.html Wikipedia article on environment variables, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable In this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] line endings in GIT

2010-10-11 Thread Jari Häkkinen
In subversion this is solved with svn property svn:eol-style set to 'native' for text files. When clients checks out files they will automatically get the eol-style appropriate for their OS. Subversion won't accept files with mixed line endings. Surely git has something similar? Jari On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Windows config.h-mscxx

2010-06-26 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 6/26/10 7:36 PM, Alan Teeder wrote: Is there any need for this to be done by all new cloners before compilation? It seems to be an unnecessary complication. The reason for having autoconf to replace the version string is that there should only be one place where the version string is set

Re: [Flightgear-devel] toow many bugs on flightgear sources

2010-05-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi David, This post will probably not be taken well by many subscribers but I understand your frustration. The build process works but to get the first clean compile is a highly non-trivial task as you noticed. Your post is not very descriptive so I can only give you general pointers. You

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE : toow many bugs on flightgear sources

2010-05-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Read James' post: On Linux, the steps are (from a clean Ubuntu/Fedora install) - install various -dev packages using apt-get/yum/synaptic (openAL-dev, compiler, freetype-dev, libpng-dev, boost, cmake, cvs/svn/git clients etc) - download OSG, cmake, make and make install - download PLIB

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Password SOMETIMES required

2010-03-03 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 3/3/10 5:16 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: Proftpd has the ability to limit the number of connections from any single host. Otherwise one person often ends up grabbing all the available download slots. Anyone want to look into a torrent? Is there an easy recipe for setting one up? What's the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] An important message for mirror maintainers

2010-02-24 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Maybe using torrents could help in distributing flightgear packages? I haven't used this distribution method myself but the mirror maintainers could maybe create seeds and announce them though the flightgear web site(s). Jari On 2/24/10 5:15 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: This message is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ILS problem at EDDB

2010-02-16 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Isn't this related to my report http://www.mail-archive.com/flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg26160.html where I found issues with mismatch of runways in /path/to/fg/data/Airports/apt.dat.gz and /path/to/fg/data/Navaids/nav.dat.gz EDDB is one of the reported airports. In apt.dat.gz

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Code.google bug tracking

2010-02-11 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2/11/10 9:36 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: James Turner wrote: As James and Martin have already said - it is absolutely critical that this is a defect list rather than a feature request. So, even missing features need to be pruned aggressively for this to succeed. Peter I suggest you do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DELETE DUPLICATE FG DATA FILES

2010-02-11 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2/11/10 6:40 PM, Geoff McLane wrote: Hi Curt, Melchior, Emmanuel, Syd, Detlef, Erik, or ... As requested before, to HELP WIN32 users, could we PLEASE have only ONE of EACH of the following PAIRS in FG data ;=() And mac users ... by default the filesystem is case-insensitive on macs. Maybe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration snafu

2010-02-09 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2010-02-09 11.08, Erik Hofman wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I've updated configure of both FlightGear and SimGear to bail out if the OpenScenegraph libraries are not found. SimGear has a simple check for OpenThreads and OSG version number and a more extensive error report. FlightGear checks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration snafu

2010-02-08 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2/8/10 6:58 PM, Geoff McLane wrote: As you have read, I have suggested that we abort during the configure step in case of this 'no', for this important library, but that is only a 'choice'. If the person 'sees' the 'no', says oops, and does something to fix it, like install the OSG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info (svn part)

2010-02-07 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Wow, what a debate. This is a reply to an early post in this thread. On 2/5/10 6:21 PM, Martin Spott wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: Actually I think subversion support in terrasync should be removed altogether or fixed. If removed then all svn checks could be removed. Oh my, could you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Inconsistencies in nav.dat.gz and apt.dat.gz

2010-02-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
, thanks for the pointer. Still, the inconsitencies remain but that maybe is okay? Jari On 2/5/10 11:53 AM, Martin Spott wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: Maybe the issues described above are valid only for my local build [...] You might check if things look differently when using a build from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info

2010-02-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2/5/10 4:04 PM, Geoff McLane wrote: Hi Jari, I read _LOUDLY_ your 'fear' that changing anything to do with the 'svn' may cause some unwanted change... but feel this is totally unfounded... Yes, I agree. My bad. I added your checks to my configure.ac. Jari

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info (svn part)

2010-02-05 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2/5/10 4:04 PM, Geoff McLane wrote: But I have had more time to write, and test a BETTER patch attached that :- (a) does NOT change the svn_client.h lines ;=((, (a) should be changed, I agree with your original proposal. Actually I think subversion support in terrasync should be removed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info

2010-02-04 Thread Jari Häkkinen
The suggested patch to configure.ac may have unwanted side effects in that if may trigger a build of a terrasync binary with builtin subversion calls rather than use of external svn calls. The problem with terrasync using builtin subversion calls is that the current implementation does don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info

2010-02-04 Thread Jari Häkkinen
, 2010-02-04 at 17:08 +0100, Jari Häkkinen wrote: The suggested patch to configure.ac may have unwanted side effects in that if may trigger a build of a terrasync binary with builtin subversion calls rather than use of external svn calls. The problem with terrasync using builtin subversion calls

[Flightgear-devel] Inconsistencies in nav.dat.gz and apt.dat.gz files

2010-02-04 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I am trying to get Tats macflightgear 32-bit binary package to run on iMac (64 bit Mac OS X 10.6.2) but it simply crashes with no information. The package works on my Macbook Pro also running 64-bit Snowleopard. Now, after some tweaking I finally got Tat's source package to compile in 32bit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X pre3

2010-02-03 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi, I tested pre3 on my two macs. Dual core 27 iMac report: As previously fg won't work on my iMac. As with the previous pre-releases fg crashes during initialization. I am working on getting a debug compile of Tats code. I've reached the end of compiling all the packages but fail on getting

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

2010-01-29 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Jensen wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 21:59 +0100, Jari Häkkinen wrote: For me the Nasal function looks strange. I can't understand what the addition of 0.001 to freq does? For me it seems to be a waste of precious CPU time. Jari var bar=int((freq+0.001)*10)-int(freq)*10; The 0.001 ensures

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

2010-01-29 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Thanks. Jari On 1/29/10 4:07 PM, Ron Jensen wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 15:34 +0100, Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Jari Häkkinen wrote: Ok, and then the final step is the bits.test(bar,0). I spent a couple of minutes searching the web but could not find docs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

2010-01-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I can't read Nasal so I can't say if the function below is correct. For what it is worth: A frequency between 108.100 and 111.950 (including end points) is a localizer frequency if the first decimal is an odd number. Jari On 2010-01-28 04.45, Ron Jensen wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 09:06

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Deprecating Nasal?

2010-01-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Why change the subject? James did not ask for deprecating Nasal, he simply wanted to avoid multiple implementation of functionality. Less error prone and if the available functionality does not fit ones need, then fall back on Nasal (or C++). Cheers, Jari On 2010-01-28 16.20, Ron Jensen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot tuning

2010-01-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
should be pretty confident that what you think nasal is doing is what it's actually doing. Writing nasal code from scratch is harder of course because it requires knowledge of all the picky language syntax details. Curt. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Jari Häkkinen wrote: I can't read

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Atlas assert on apt.dat.gz

2010-01-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
The new apt.dat.gz works for me. Thanks, Jari On 2010-01-28 11.17, Martin Spott wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: Atlas does not like the current apt.dat.gz because of string 'SOUTH' on line 119725: I've fixed hepilad name assignments for two airfields, please pull the current file from

[Flightgear-devel] Atlas assert on apt.dat.gz

2010-01-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi, I am cross-posting this to atlas and fg developer lists. Atlas does not like the current apt.dat.gz because of string 'SOUTH' on line 119725: 10 51.889770 -2.162530 SOUTH 174.36080 . . 80 11 08 0 0 0.25 0 0300.0300 Looking at other lines in apt.dat.gz

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SoundSystem on MacOS

2010-01-20 Thread Jari Häkkinen
With the latest repository version of fg and support the sound works for me on 64bit iMac. Previously I had problems with fly-by view sound but now the doppler effect in fly-by view now sounds reasonable. Nice work Erik. Jari On 1/20/10 3:02 PM, Erik Hofman wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problem with modified apt.dat file

2010-01-19 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Judging from the extension .gz the command to use is gzip not tar. For compressed tar I'd expect extension .tgz or .tar.gz. Try 'gzip apt.dat' instead. Jari On 1/19/10 11:51 AM, Andrew Gillanders wrote: Hello all, I am having trouble with an updated apt.dat file. I think it is with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Win32-built -Towards the new Release

2010-01-10 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 1/10/10 10:13 PM, Benoît Laniel wrote: I updated the snapshots and now have a functional (probably not bug free) terrasync with svn support built-in: Not really a win32-build issue but terrasync does not behave well with svn built into it. When terrasync is killed it does not exit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glide slope (ILS) range

2009-12-17 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Consulting my course material for passing the ATPL tests in Europe I read that the glide path is required to be usable up to a distance of 10 NM (which I interpret from the touch down zone not the distance to an DME that may or may not be at destination). This distance should be valid +-8

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs compile error, today's cvs

2009-12-10 Thread Jari Häkkinen
John Denker wrote: Curtis Olson wrote: I'm not sure the best way to handle this but if you start at the top and run ./autogen.sh followed by ./configure --options I think the error will be cleaned up. Switching files from abc.c to abc.cxx confuses the dependency tracking of automake.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs compile error, today's cvs

2009-12-10 Thread Jari Häkkinen
. Cheers, Jari Jari Häkkinen wrote: John Denker wrote: Curtis Olson wrote: I'm not sure the best way to handle this but if you start at the top and run ./autogen.sh followed by ./configure --options I think the error will be cleaned up. Switching files from abc.c to abc.cxx confuses

Re: [Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-01 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Eh, a bugtracker? Jari Heiko Schulz wrote: Hi, Every one of those bug reports has a date. There are so many bugs that I can't check them all every day. Yep, exactly that makes me woender! Even with the newest date, you must probably missed some things. Generally I found some other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenAL / ALUT problem on Mac (was PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users)

2009-12-01 Thread Jari Häkkinen
to this issue, so please feel free to tell your opinion all developers. On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:37 AM, Jari Häkkinen wrote: I am not sure if this thread is going anywhere. This will be my last post in this thread. I think we (Eric and Tat) should decide for one strategy. They may already have

[Flightgear-devel] Can someone please add missing terrasync scenery to the repository

2009-12-01 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Terragear complains about missing directory in the subversion repository: URL 'http://terrascenery.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/data/Scenery/Objects/e010n50/e014n54' doesn't exist Can someone please add it? Jari --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fg shows a blank screen

2009-11-30 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Thanks. Tim Moore wrote: On 11/29/2009 01:59 AM, Csaba Halász wrote: On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jari Häkkinen j...@flygarna.se wrote: I traced the problem to changeset 10838 in OSG. I cannot say what goes wrong but maybe one of the list readers do. http://www.openscenegraph.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-11-29 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Häkkinen wrote: On 2009-11-28 23.01, Erik Hofman wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: My comments was to elaborate on the consequences of the removed alut support by Apple. It is dangerous to use any alut.h you find on the web. As you point out using Creatives alut.h may make things simpler (macports.org

[Flightgear-devel] fg shows a blank screen

2009-11-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi all, I only get a blank single colour screen when I run fg (latest cvs/svn versions of plib/osg/simgear/fg). The colour changes with time settings, it is grey at noon, bluish at dusk, and black in night time. I can see the top menu and I have sound. I get the message saying which runway I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-11-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Hi Jari, First, I made patches for configure.ac in both SimGear and FlightGear (except svn lib part) so please give it a try. I tried your changes and they work well. However, I have a slightly different strategy so I took your changes and adopted them to my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-11-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
that for a while. (Now I changed strategy as outlined in other postings in this thread.) Cheers, Jari Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Ah, so there is no real need for alut.h at all. Hm, so the alut.h issue should rather go in to simgear. I now tested

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-11-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2009-11-28 23.01, Erik Hofman wrote: Jari Häkkinen wrote: My comments was to elaborate on the consequences of the removed alut support by Apple. It is dangerous to use any alut.h you find on the web. As you point out using Creatives alut.h may make things simpler (macports.org is another

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fg shows a blank screen

2009-11-28 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2009-11-28 16.55, jean pellotier wrote: Jari Häkkinen a écrit : Hi all, I only get a blank single colour screen when I run fg (latest cvs/svn versions of plib/osg/simgear/fg). The colour changes with time settings, it is grey at noon, bluish at dusk, and black in night time. I can see

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-11-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Jari Häkkinen wrote: Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Ah, so there is no real need for alut.h at all. Hm, so the alut.h issue should rather go in to simgear. I now tested with a zero length alut.h and no libalut. Compiling works but the linker fails with alut-complaints Undefined symbols

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-11-26 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Hi Jari, Thanks for your patch, and sorry for my very late reply. No worries, I have a working development environment. I post my findings and hope the information helps others facing similar issues as I have. If my pathces are useful they might end up in the the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-11-26 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Jari Häkkinen wrote: Anyway, we have to either install OpenAL with alut.h to /Library/Frameworks or manually add alut.h to /Developer/SDKs/*/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.frameworks/Headers/ Shouldn't we make simgear ignore #include OpenAL/alut.h when compiling on OSX instead of adding

Re: [Flightgear-devel] atlas global tarball

2009-11-22 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Map will only generate the maps downloaded by terragear and the ones in fg data CVS repository. It is not that much assuming you haven't crossed the globe a few times. Jari Alex Perry wrote: The computer isn't too slow, no. I'm just hoping to avoid having to download the entire global

Re: [Flightgear-devel] boost library version

2009-11-17 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Yes, see http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=514CC37C-DA62-45F3-BC1F-1B929429B09C%40gmail.comforum_name=flightgear-devel or you might get away with g++ 4.3 as hinted in the thread. Surely there is a way to upgrade separate packages in Ubuntu? I am using Snow Leopard on mac

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up -- effects for models

2009-11-15 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2009-11-15 09.38, Vivian Meazza wrote: Tim Moore wrote I've just checked in code that applies effects to all models in FG. There's no documentation yet for how to use new features -- and not really any examples either; I want to shake out what the changes may have broken first.

[Flightgear-devel] flightgear dependency on PLIB pw API

2009-10-31 Thread Jari Häkkinen
According to http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Plib there should be no dependency on PLIP windowing library (pw). I found that FG/src/GUI/layout_test.cxx uses plip/pw.h. Since I am building flighgear on a 64-bit mac layout_test.cxx does not compile. This is a consequence from the fact that

[Flightgear-devel] PATCH Suggested configure.ac changes/improvements affecting mac users

2009-10-31 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I have made changes (improvements?) to the configure script. I have attached a patch file for configure.ac with changes targeting issues with building flightgear on my mac. The changes will only impact mac users. Changes made: 1) Fixed mixup in AC_ARG_WITH between osg and plib. 2) Added check

[Flightgear-devel] PATCH: terrasync/subversion checks fixed

2009-10-31 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Hi again, Another patch, this time targeting the check of subversion library support. The current checks in configure.ac are useless, the attached patch detects subversion appropriately if it is intalled. Can someone review it and commit to the flightgear source CVS. Cheers, Jari Index:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Sound system committed

2009-10-30 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Erik Hofman wrote: I've committed the current state of my local code to see if it fixes anything. Erik Erik, there is a typo in SIMGEAR/simgear/sound/Makefile.am, see diff below. Cheers, Jari Index: simgear/sound/Makefile.am

[Flightgear-devel] PATCH to make simgear CVS compile on Mac OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard

2009-10-30 Thread Jari Häkkinen
SIMGEAR/simgear/compiler.h needs a minor change to compile on my mac running 64-bit Snow Leopard. The proposed change is attached to this mail. It should be safe to apply it. Can someone please commit it to simgear CVS. Jari Index: simgear/compiler.h

[Flightgear-devel] Question regarding pre-processor code in SIMGEAR/simgear/compiler.h

2009-10-30 Thread Jari Häkkinen
I have a question about a code segment in SIMGEAR/simgear/compiler.h lines 133-147 (latest CVS version). 133 #ifdef __APPLE__ 134 # ifdef __GNUC__ 135 #if ( __GNUC__ = 3 ) ( __GNUC_MINOR__ = 3 ) 136 inline int (isnan)(double r) { return !(r = 0 || r = 0); } 137 #else 138// any C++

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-09-16 Thread Jari Häkkinen
John Denker wrote: The simplest approach might be: 0) For naive users, and even experienced VFR users, they don't know and don't care about this issue, and everybody would like to keep it that way. 1) At startup, we shall set every reversible ILS to the higher-numbered end (19

Re: [Flightgear-devel] (no subject)

2009-08-07 Thread Jari Häkkinen
leee wrote: On Friday 07 Aug 2009, Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, leee wrote: I'm just wondering how much hardwood there is in Sweden. Sweden's Firs might have been ok for the masts and spars but hardwood was needed for the hull and superstructure, typically Oak for the keel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mac crashes / corruption with CVS

2009-06-16 Thread Jari Häkkinen
Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote: Jari, On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Jari Häkkinen wrote: Last week I realized that I miss the OSX lancher. I checked out the OSX launcher from the repository (trunk branch ... I don't get latest fixes to the launcher :-0), FYI, the latest fix on GUI launcher

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