Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Sunday 04 June 2006 04:24, Josh Babcock wrote: Hmm, rather than force everyone to start with the P-brake engaged, why don't you just set it in your preferences.xml file? This is the sort of thing that really has nothing to to with the aircraft, and everything to do with the procedures that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Martin Spott
AJ MacLeod wrote: I completely fail to see how anyone benefits from a mad scramble for control of the aircraft on FG startup... particularly since on the carrier it's often over the side by then. This aircraft has a parking brake IRL unless I'm very much mistaken - surely it's sensible to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread dene maxwell
developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 09:31:16 + (UTC) AJ MacLeod wrote: I completely fail to see how anyone benefits from a mad scramble for control

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Monday 05 June 2006 10:31, Martin Spott wrote: location using chocks. As you are very much by yourself because FlightGear doesn't provide a ground crew that could remove the chocks for you I think the parking brake is a pretty good choice for a work-alike. Oh good, someone else agrees with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Babcock
AJ MacLeod wrote: On Sunday 04 June 2006 04:24, Josh Babcock wrote: Hmm, rather than force everyone to start with the P-brake engaged, why don't you just set it in your preferences.xml file? This is the sort of thing that really has nothing to to with the aircraft, and everything to do with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Josh Babcock schrieb: dene maxwell wrote: My penny's worth...I agree... no experience IRL ...it's one of the first things I do in FG is engage the P-brake while I set up the radio/AP ...I'm working through my hanger to set this as default for all AC. :-D ene My point though, is that you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Montag, den 05.06.2006, 14:56 +0100 schrieb AJ MacLeod: On Monday 05 June 2006 13:43, Josh Babcock wrote: How many pilots still have their parking brakes set at the runway threshold? These same pilots will (hopefully :-) have been in control of the plane for a good while leading up to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Babcock
AJ MacLeod wrote: I'm not claiming having the parking brake set at this point is the height of realism, just that it's slightly less bad than the alternative. I've still not heard a convincing reason why FG starting up with out of control runaway aircraft is a good idea... I don't have a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread dene maxwell
True...point taken :-D ene From: Josh Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin Date: Mon, 05 Jun

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Babcock
Georg Vollnhals wrote: Hi Josh, although I can't understand why someone would like to start a flightsim session with programmed trouble (=aircraft not in a stable position) I accept the argument that the status of the aircraft should be set up separately, ie in the preferences file.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread dene maxwell
discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:25:03 +0200 Am Montag, den 05.06.2006, 14:56 +0100 schrieb AJ MacLeod: On Monday 05 June 2006 13

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* dene maxwell -- Monday 05 June 2006 22:32: I hace always liked this idea, I know that Start-Up positions can be specified in TaxiDraw and [...] It would be an added touch of realisism IMHO I use ac_state.nas[1], which puts the aircraft where you left it last time. This is even more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 04 June 2006 08:40, Georg Vollnhals wrote: Josh Babcock schrieb: AJ MacLeod wrote: My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off with the parking brake engaged. There are few things more irritating than having the fg screen fade in only to find

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-04 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Josh Babcock schrieb: AJ MacLeod wrote: My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off with the parking brake engaged. There are few things more irritating than having the fg screen fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier deck or into the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-03 Thread Josh Babcock
AJ MacLeod wrote: My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off with the parking brake engaged. There are few things more irritating than having the fg screen fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier deck or into the nearest windsock! Hmm,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
shavlir -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of @uiuc.edu Sent: 25 May 2006 04:31 To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin Since those of you who have checkin access never seem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread Georg Vollnhals
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Still a lot to do, but I figure people would at least like to have a 3d model to go with the flight model that already exists (I didn't touch the flight model). Hi Steve Havlir, I never would have tried the Harrier without any reference points to the horizont

Re: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Georg Vollnhals schrieb: Hi Steve Havlir, .. So, with this actual flight model you have to think a lot more in advance compared to a helicopter (where you also have to think in advance) due to the big! delay to power-setting and steering commands. Actually, I do not have any detailled

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:30, Georg Vollnhals wrote: !-- Harriers have little reactor jets to change the aircraft's orientation during hover. I've been unable to find a good reference for where these are, exactly. I've chosen to put the pitch and yaw jets in the tail,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:59, AJ MacLeod wrote: My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off with the parking brake engaged. There are few things more irritating than having the fg screen fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier deck or into the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread shavlir
On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:59, AJ MacLeod wrote: I think the gear needs a good bit more damping - I've used damp=4 on all the gear which is very much better, although possibly a wee bit much? Perhaps the spring rates of the u/c need upped a tiny bit too, I've not played with that yet.

[Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-24 Thread shavlir
Since those of you who have checkin access never seem to be around when i am online, I guess the devel list will have to do. I am at a good checkpoint with the harrier model. Since there are a million variants of the harrier, I picked the version to do a 3d model that was very similar to what