[Flightgear-devel] Helicopter

2004-11-25 Thread Ioan Suciu
Hello. I want to develop a helicopter flight model, as far as i know, the only FDM that hav support for it is Yasim, but i didn't found the documentation about how to create the model for Yasim. Where should i look. thanks IS ___ Flightgear-devel maili

[Flightgear-devel] helicopter flight model

2004-09-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I think I meant to ask about this ealier, but I don't recall any responses, which probably means I never actually asked? I know we have some minimal helicopter support in YASim, but does anyone out there have any contacts or experience developing a more detailed helicopter flight dynamics model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter Animations

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Wilson
Chris Horler said: > I wrote a patch to get simple helicopter animations to work on a slave > machine. > > I didn't look into the source too much at first - I wrote most of the patch on > the Linux Developer expo day. > > I now realise I missed something. I think the ExternalNet.cxx file is u

[Flightgear-devel] Helicopter Animations

2004-04-25 Thread Chris Horler
I wrote a patch to get simple helicopter animations to work on a slave machine. I didn't look into the source too much at first - I wrote most of the patch on the Linux Developer expo day. I now realise I missed something. I think the ExternalNet.cxx file is used when the native protocol is u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-11-25 Thread David Megginson
Maik: I just checked in modified versions of Rotor.cpp and RotorPart.cpp, converting the printf debugging statements to SG_LOG. All the best, David ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-20 Thread Andy Ross
Maik Justus wrote: > I am using this code instead the solver: > >applyDragFactor(Math::pow(15.7/1000, 1/SOLVE_TWEAK)); >applyLiftRatio(Math::pow(104, 1/SOLVE_TWEAK)); > > I took the values from the c172. Don't include the SOLVE_TWEAK bit. That exists to "slow down" the convergence

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-20 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Andy, Andy Ross wrote: Since the helicopter mechanism doesn't use the solver, you'll need to fudge a factor that makes sense. The actual number is going to depend in sensitive ways on the size and shape of the aircraft and will probably be impossible to guess in practice (this, after all, w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread Andy Ross
[Woo hoo! Check it out: two posts in two days! I'm back in the game! Amusingly, I'm also employed again. I wonder if there's a connection?] Maik Justus wrote: > I am not sure if the stabs are working correct without the solver. I > tried to use fixed values if you specify no wing and hstab, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Maik Justus wrote: The helicopter simulation is not finished yet. I will describe later, which functions/ effects are totally missing or simplified. Here it is: Missing: -Downwash -Effect on stabs -Effect on rotor itself -Effect on ground (ground effect) -Engine (The needed power

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread David Luff
On 10/17/03 at 1:11 PM David Megginson wrote: >David Luff writes: > > > FWIW, I got sudden yaw oscilations as you describe for no apparent > > reason as well. > > > > I've no idea how to fly a heli though!!! > >Nor do I, but I'd expect any strange oscillations to happen at very >low or very high

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread Maik Justus
Hello David, I will try to get the oscillations. Maybe I am able to change the bo105.xml to avoid them. Maik David Megginson schrieb: David Luff writes: > FWIW, I got sudden yaw oscilations as you describe for no apparent > reason as well. > > I've no idea how to fly a heli though!!! Nor do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread David Megginson
David Luff writes: > FWIW, I got sudden yaw oscilations as you describe for no apparent > reason as well. > > I've no idea how to fly a heli though!!! Nor do I, but I'd expect any strange oscillations to happen at very low or very high airspeed, not at a medium cruise speed. I just rebuilt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread David Luff
On 10/17/03 at 9:24 AM David Megginson wrote: >Martin Spott writes: > > > Very different here. The indicators on the HUD were moving and the heli > > flies very calm. Did you recompile the stuff from scratch ? > >That's worth a shot -- I'll try a make clean; make in SimGear and >FlightGear. I'll

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread David Megginson
Martin Spott writes: > Very different here. The indicators on the HUD were moving and the heli > flies very calm. Did you recompile the stuff from scratch ? That's worth a shot -- I'll try a make clean; make in SimGear and FlightGear. I'll just confirm that it is the bo105 that everyone else i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-17 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Jim first: thanks to everyone who helped to put this code into the flightgear codebase. Jim Wilson schrieb: What I have noticed is that overspeed effects don't seem to show up (negative speed on the blades coming back should cause a stall) and if you get it up to far enough over 200 it seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've tried it with two different controllers and seem the same effect > -- furthermore, the control-position indicators on the HUD are not > moving, suggesting that the flutter isn't coming from there. Very different here. The indicators on the HUD wer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Jim Wilson writes: > > > This isn't happening here. How are you controlling the antitorque > > (rudder)? Maybe the problem is in the control input? > > I've tried it with two different controllers and seem the same effect > -- furthermore, the cont

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: > This isn't happening here. How are you controlling the antitorque > (rudder)? Maybe the problem is in the control input? I've tried it with two different controllers and seem the same effect -- furthermore, the control-position indicators on the HUD are not moving, sugges

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's all give Maik a round of applause for this one. Indeed ! I'd say: "When dreams come true ", Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I can (just barely) fly it -- I'll try hooking up my rudder pedals to > see if that makes it easier. One thing I don't understand is that I > get a lot of small, rapid fishtail oscillations, even when the > controls are perfectly still and the forward a

[Flightgear-devel] Helicopter: First Impressions

2003-10-16 Thread David Megginson
I've been been playing with Maik's most excellent helicopter model, now in CVS: fgfs --aircraft=bo105 I can (just barely) fly it -- I'll try hooking up my rudder pedals to see if that makes it easier. One thing I don't understand is that I get a lot of small, rapid fishtail oscillations, even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] helicopter sound

2003-10-04 Thread David Culp
> > Here's a helicopter wav file that I got from the internet several months > > ago. Can't remember where :( > > > > http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/Helo.wav > > Do you have any recollection of the copyright? No. I'll search the web and see if I can find the source again. Dave -- ***

Re: [Flightgear-devel] helicopter sound

2003-10-04 Thread Erik Hofman
David Culp wrote: Here's a helicopter wav file that I got from the internet several months ago. Can't remember where :( http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/Helo.wav Do you have any recollection of the copyright? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

[Flightgear-devel] helicopter sound

2003-10-03 Thread David Culp
Here's a helicopter wav file that I got from the internet several months ago. Can't remember where :( http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/Helo.wav Dave -- David Culp davidculp2[at]comcast.net ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter flight model

2003-03-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erez Boym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where can I find information about "Aaron Kahn's heli > FDM" ? http://autopilot.sf.net/ It's not a standalone FDM for being plugged into FlightGear, at the moment it's a small standalone program with _very_ simplistic graphics display waiting for being cle

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter flight model

2003-03-15 Thread Erez Boym
ss I can convert it to AC format I will not be able to submit that model. Thanks Erez To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter flight model Date: 14 Mar 2003 18:52:56 GMT Organization: home Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "J

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter flight model

2003-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
"Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erez Boym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> I have built a grate CH53D helicopter and really like >> to fly it as a helicopter and not as a ufo ;-) >> > That's a project no one has taken on yet. The sea stallion might be a tough > one to start with. It's qu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helicopter flight model

2003-03-14 Thread Jim Wilson
Erez Boym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I have built a grate CH53D helicopter and really like > to fly it as a helicopter and not as a ufo ;-) > That's a project no one has taken on yet. The sea stallion might be a tough one to start with. It's quite a machine. Best, Jim _

[Flightgear-devel] Helicopter flight model

2003-03-14 Thread Erez Boym
Hi, Do we have a helicopter FDM ? I have built a grate CH53D helicopter and really like to fly it as a helicopter and not as a ufo ;-) Thanks Erez __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com