Re: [fossil-users] Timeline graph problem on fossil-scm.org

2014-04-05 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
It looks like two repositories that got commits, and they weren't in
sync. And Jan merged the two leaves without writing about it. 

On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 10:55:58AM -0400, Martin Gagnon wrote:
 Hi...
 
 I've just notice a strange timeline graph on fossil-scm.org and it seems
 to be cause by a hidden tag in the middle of the trunk (or on a fork,
 I'm not sure). 
 
 If you look on default timeline view:
 
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?y=ci
 
 The checkin from 2014-04-04 10:20 get a merge that look to come from
 nowhere. (I've tried to follow the line with n=2000)
 
 Finally, when pressing on Unhide or when looking at the ancestors or
 family of a following checkin:
 
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?p=b37a28228c3788c1fcf026c881eec4017d242dbfunhide
 
 It look like that trunk is duplicated (but not quite like a fork).
 
 I Wonder what it really mean and what can cause that.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 Martin G.
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Re: [fossil-users] Scalability limits

2014-02-07 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 07:39:37PM +0100, Gour wrote:
 On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 18:40:32 +0100
 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  It would be really cool to see someone implement their own SCM based
  on fossil's core artifact model and their own db back-end, though. 
 
 What about Monotone? Linus was looking at it, but it was too slow at
 that time.

It was a bug of monotone, that slowness. Fixed, for what I remember.

But monotone works on sqlite, if the deal is sqlite.
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[fossil-users] fossil info does not report leaf/closed

2014-01-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello all,

I think it'd be helpful i fossil info would report if the current commit is a
leaf, if it is closed or not, etc.

It seems to report only the sym- tags.

I've been confused doing some work, and then finding that I'm ona closed leaf
(already merged to parent branch). :)

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil info does not report leaf/closed

2014-01-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 03:54:22PM +0100, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  the leaf line currently only appears if it's closed, but i'd go ahead
  and expand it to (A) appear whenever the current uuid is a leaf and (B) say
  open or closed.
 
 
 for example:
 checkout: d5d7e640d035f1b9aa159fb83eac94fc28862733 2014-01-29 13:35:08
 UTC
 leaf: open

What about leaf:, with right-side yes-open, yes-closed, no?
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil info does not report leaf/closed

2014-01-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 04:17:38PM +0100, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  yes|closed imply a leaf and yes implies opened
 
 
 i'm about to be offline for a while but wanted to get this checked in:
 
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/0b5670dce6
 
 that uses the yes|no|closed variant.

That'd be enough for me, sure. :)
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[fossil-users] Get a checkin diff from cli

2014-01-22 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello all,

knowing the checkin hash, how can I get in cli the diff introduced by of the
checkin? Similar to what appears in the checkin page on the ui.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Get a checkin diff from cli

2014-01-22 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 06:25:14AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  knowing the checkin hash, how can I get in cli the diff introduced by of
  the
  checkin? Similar to what appears in the checkin page on the ui.
 
 
 I think you have to know both the checkin hash and the parent check-in
 hash.  Then:
 
 fossil diff --from $parent --to $checkin

Ok, thank you. That is how I was doing it until now, but I thought there should
be a comfortable way. :)

It'd be nice to have a fossil diff --checkin X or so. As for git, I often use
'git show' to achieve that.

Regards,
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[fossil-users] 1.28 vdiff changes

2014-01-10 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

the Changes page says for 1.28:
- Enhancements to the /vdiff webpage for more difference display options. 

But what I see, is that it lost the 'Patch' option.

What are exactly the additional display options?

Thank you,
Lluís
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Re: [fossil-users] 1.28 vdiff changes

2014-01-10 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:24:12AM -0500, Martin Gagnon wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 04:19:19PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
  Hello,
  
  the Changes page says for 1.28:
  - Enhancements to the /vdiff webpage for more difference display options. 
  
  But what I see, is that it lost the 'Patch' option.
  
  What are exactly the additional display options?
 
 Possibility to hide the diffs or not according to the settings, just
 like the /info page.
 
 http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/74a4db258a

Ah ok. Well... considering also the removal of Patch option,
to me this translates almost to less options in vdiff. :)

Maybe we could have the Patch back?
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Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.28 release?

2014-01-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 04:12:31PM +0100, Remigiusz Modrzejewski wrote:
 
 On Jan 9, 2014, at 16:00 , Martin S. Weber wrote:
 
  But I want Fossil to follow the latest SQLite alphas, not the latest SQLite
  stables.  That's the whole point:  Fossil supports SQLite as a test
  platform.  SQLite stable has already been thoroughly vetted and tested and
  there is little point in testing it further.  I want Fossil to run with the
  latest SQLite on trunk to smoke out bugs early.
  
  ...but fossil in itself is a pretty awesome piece of software, that's 
  expected
  by its users to be stable -- at least for releases.
 
 I second this view, Fossil is definitely valuable on its own merit.
 As such, its stable versions should not contain alpha-quality code from other 
 projects.

As for me, I think that fossil has showed that it works well enough at almost
any trunk checkin. I understand that the named version sqlite has already been
quite tested; a fossil release with it will only mean *more* tests for sqlite.
It sounds good to me.
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Re: [fossil-users] Export artifact to archive?

2014-01-03 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 04:36:26PM +, Roy Marples wrote:
 Hi List
 
 Can fossil create an archive (tarball, zip file, etc) from a given
 artifact id WITHOUT using the web interface?
 Something like this is what I need:
 $ fossil archive ?ID | bzip2  distribution-version.tar.bz2

Hi,

fossil tarball.

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[fossil-users] Annotate: when are files added?

2013-12-02 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

it'd be nice if 'annotate' could be told to follow merges.

It seems that it cannot distinguish if a new file came through a merge, or it
was completely new.

So, if you add a file in branch A, and then merge A to B, C, D, ...  annotating
the file in any branch B, C, ... will have the merge checkin as the oldest
source of content.

The same applies to file lines.

I'm lazy to propose a patch though. :)

Regars,
Lluís.
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[fossil-users] JSON commit

2013-11-07 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

I'd like to have a json operation to commit files. It is not there yet, right?
There is branch creation, but not any interface to commit.

I'd like to be able to commit (linked to json login), without having a checkout.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] ticket management

2013-10-15 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:09:41PM +0200, j. van den hoff wrote:
 I'm in the process of giving the ticket system a try for a
 collaboration where we need to keep track of text document changes
 on the one side and have a facility to report problems/issues
 observed with the system (hardware, not software, ...).
 
 question: the ticket type is predefined to be one of those
 categories given in the drop down menu (code defect etc.). these
 categories don't really match our needs. is there a way to add
 further categories, at least other and a free text choice would
 probably be good to have?

Enter in the Admin - Tickets page. You can tune everything.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Autosync: Too bad git doesn't have it...

2013-09-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:02:12PM -0700, B Harder wrote:
 I read this roughly (in fossil-speak) as:
 
 I had a bunch of email notes from folks requesting I merge their
 feature-branches into my main branch, but my machine crashed and my mail
 isn't accessible…

I don't read it that way.

Linus was pulling the patches, and archiving them as long as he pull them. But
he didn't push the branch that often, so once the disk broke, mail  upstream
git was desynced.

 On Sep 11, 2013 4:34 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:
 
  It appears that autosync would have saved Linus Torvalds from losing some
  work yesterday.  See
  http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1309.1/01669.html for
  details.  Bummer.
 
  --
  D. Richard Hipp
  d...@sqlite.org
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Enhancement: commit and close merged leaf

2013-07-30 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:11:52AM +0100, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
 2013/7/12 Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com:
  On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
  Well, just try out the merge-integrate branch. I would say
  the glass is full again.;-)
 
  Indeed it is! i like what you've done :)
 
 I made one additional change: adding states
 UPDATED_BY_INTEGR and ADDED_BY_INTEGR
 (comparable to their XXX_BY_MERGE equivalent)
 in fossil (status|changes|ls -v)
 
 See:
http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/2015bbd55d
 
 Still no objections, anyone? I think it's ready to be
 integrated into trunk (using merge --integrate,
 of course), but another round of evaluation never hurts!

Hello all,

I'll try to add some feedback. :)

Why INTEGR, and not INTEGRATE?

There is also case -1, -2, -4. Why not -3?

About the code starting at line 1693, it looks to me like it runs in any case.
Does this change only add a new --integrate, or it also changes the behaviour
of usual merges?

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] Enhancement: commit and close merged leaf

2013-07-30 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:45:31AM +0100, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
 2013/7/30 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name:
  About the code starting at line 1693, it looks to me like it runs in any 
  case.
  Does this change only add a new --integrate, or it also changes the 
  behaviour
  of usual merges?
 
 That code does an additional pass over the vmerge table, in order to
 determine which branches should be closed. Existing merges
 never produce id=-4 so the query will give the empty result then.

But maybe it should not run unless in 'integrate' mode?
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-25 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 07:44:16AM -0400, Martin Gagnon wrote:
 Le 2013-07-25 06:43, Jan Nijtmans a écrit :
 2013/7/25 Richard Hipp  d...@sqlite.org:
  Native, pure-blooded windows binaries run just fine on cygwin,
 right?  So
  why are we complicating the code with exceptions, special cases,
 and hacks
  for cygwin?
 
  There are three things that a windows fossil binary can never do
  in the Cygwin environment:
  1) handle Cygwin (Unix) links and mount points
  2) setting the Windows file-system case-sensitive (use both Makefile
  and makefile)
  3) use a Cygwin program as commit/stash editor
 
  For me personally those 3 things are not important, but apparently
  (see earlier messages in this thread) for other people it is.
 Unfortunately!
 
  I'm trying to find out what the minimum patch is to get the Cygwin build
  of fossil (both 32-bit and 64-bit) working again, so fossil can be
  built out-of-the box on Cygwin again. Of course, any feedback
  is welcome.
 
 In Theory, fossil should build and work on fossil like on any other unix
 like Operating system (like linux/*bsd etc..) That's what cygwin is for.
 
 I have the feeling that in some part of the code, cygwin is treated as
 windows and in other place it is treated as unix-like (posix). I guess
 this is the problem.
 
 I believe that when building for cygwin, it should never goes on any
 #ifdef that are special for windows. So if cygwin really work as
 expected, fossil/sqlite code should not need much exceptions in order to
 work in Cygwin.
 
 Per example, on native windows we cannot just do ./configure  make,
 we need a special manually maintain Makefile. But on cygwin, it *should*
 work.

This is also my understanding.

And as for why we need fossil-for-cygwin from Richard... I think it is almost
the same reason of why we need cygwin. :)

I don't use windows because I like it's UI. When I use windows, I want it the
closest to unix. This means terminals, fds, unix sockets, fork, process groups,
etc. Cygwin is great at building all that over the weird windows OS.

Using a non-cygwin program in cygwin quite breaks the magic (terminal fds not
passing on fork, different filesystem views, paths, permissions, etc.).

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-25 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 07:59:38AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Martin Gagnon eme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   In Theory, fossil should build and work on fossil like on any other unix
  like Operating system (like linux/*bsd etc..) That's what cygwin is for.
 
 
 grep tells me that there are 33 instances of the __CYGWIN__ macro in
 Fossil, in 8 different files.  So if you use sed to change them all to
 __CYGWIN_OFF_ (or something else harmless) and then do ./configure; make,
 does it work?   (I don't have cygwin installed so this is not something I
 can easily test.)
 
 If it does work, then I move for the immediate banishment of all __CYGWIN__
 macros.

fossil clone in cygwin64 now works perfectly:
$ sed s/__CYGWIN__/__CYGWIN__OFF__/ -i src/*
$ ./configure
$ make -j4

Thank you! :)
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-25 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 03:46:21PM +0200, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
 2013/7/25 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org:
  If it does work, then I move for the immediate banishment of all __CYGWIN__
  macros.
 
 Doing that will break four things:
 - Accessing a check-out repository on Cygwin, while the previous check-out
   was done in win32.
 - Allow usage of win32 paths (possibly coming from WIN32 variables) in fossil.
 - Cygwin doesn't allow '\' in paths like UNIX does, or the behavior of
 UNC paths.
 - Cooperation of Cygwin with windows programs using sqlite (like TortoiseSVN)

As a cygwin user, this breakage is what I expect by any cygwin version of a
program, be it fossil, mercurial, git, vim, ...

I'd never use a cygwin-git checkout with non-cygwin-git, for example. I never
tried and i would not expect it to work.

  If it doesn't work, is that a bug in cygwin?
 
 More likely, it's a limitation of Cygwin running on Windows.
 
 Not seconded.
 
 In SQLite various __CYGWIN__ #ifdef's can be removed if another locking
 mechanism is put in place. Attached is the current patch the Cygwin
 people use for their build of SQLite accomplishing this. But this only
 works on Cygwin  1.7.20, and it doesn't follow the SQLite coding
 style, so it will need some more work.

I have no idea how locking has to be handled in cygwin, but if the issue is at
using a sqlite db with both cygwin and non-cygwin programs, this is a tricky
thing.

As for me, I don't expect cygwin programs' data to cope well with windows
programs' data.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-24 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Great! Very informative. Thank you.

Do you happen to know if I can build and run programs for cygwin32, in a
cygwin64 installation? or I should run two cygwin setups in orthogonally, 32 and
64?

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:33:38AM +0200, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 09:21:57PM +0200, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
  Hello,
 
  today I built fossil on cygwin64, and it built but it didn't work. 
  Cloning, a
  line in os_win.c complained about not having permission to create a file (a 
  tmp
  file with some kind of random string) in C:/windows.
 I can easily reproduce that (see below). The Cygwin folks made some local
 modifications to sqlite, allowing cooperation between Cygwin and Windows
 programs. Cygwin64 doesn't have those modifications yet.
 
 2013/7/22 Martin Gagnon eme...@gmail.com:
  I stop building fossil for cygwin long time ago and I found that cygwin
  version of fossil was a lot slower (with big repo) and I had problem
  when using the same checkout from cygwin and non-cygwin binary.
 
 That should be fixed now. For details, see:
 http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2013-06/msg00014.html
 https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/340cee03ee
 You can try it on Cygwin32 using
 ./configure --disable-internal-sqlite
 There it should work fine now, but feel free to report any additional
 problems you find.
 
 On Cygwin64 that doesn't work yet due to the above mentioned reason:
 $ ./configure --disable-internal-sqlite
 
 $ make
 
 $ ./fossil update
 Autosync:  
 SQLITE_CANTOPEN: os_win.c:34063: (3)
 winOpen(/var/tmp/etilqs_8td6VBhZb6xMX3V\etilqs_QL9aCIutNgLB3ZP) - The
 system cannot find the path specified.
 SQLITE_CANTOPEN: os_win.c:34063: (3)
 winOpen(/var/tmp/etilqs_FoaHNBQa56cVGrh\etilqs_PXfZEjH5dBl8Cm5) - The
 system cannot find the path specified.
 SQLITE_CANTOPEN: cannot open file at line 34071 of [cbea02d938]
 SQLITE_CANTOPEN: statement aborts at 38: [CREATE TEMP TABLE
 onremote(rid INTEGER PRIMARY KEY);] unable to open database file
 ./fossil: unable to open database file: {CREATE TEMP TABLE
 onremote(rid INTEGER PRIMARY KEY);}
 
 If you have recently updated your fossil executable, you might
 need to run fossil all rebuild to bring the repository
 schemas up to date.
 
 Just wait on the Cygwin64 people to bring out a new Sqlite package with
 the same fixes already done in Cygwin32.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Regards,
Jan Nijtmans
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-24 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:16:19AM +0200, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
 2013/7/24 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name:
  Do you happen to know if I can build and run programs for cygwin32, in a
  cygwin64 installation? or I should run two cygwin setups in orthogonally, 
  32 and
  64?
 
 I would recommend to compile fossil using:
 make -f win/Makefile.mingw PREFIX=x86_64-w64-mingw32-
 Then you get a WIN64 version of fossil.exe which
 works in any environment (Cygwin32, Cygwin64, Msys, CMD),
 and is super fast.

I think our main usage for a cygwin fossil is that we develop using a cygwin
terminal with bash and vim. And we want fossil to spawn vim properly on commit.

iiuc, a native fossil can't spawn a proper vim editor in the cygwin bash
terminal. Is it right? Do you know any workaround?

 All Cygwin64 and Cygwin32 dll's have the same name, so you
 cannot mix executables from those two environments.

Ah ok. Good to know!

Thank you,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-24 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:53:02AM +0200, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
 2013/7/24 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name:
  I think our main usage for a cygwin fossil is that we develop using a cygwin
  terminal with bash and vim. And we want fossil to spawn vim properly on 
  commit.
 
 That should work, only you should do something like:
 export EDITOR=C:/Cygwin64/bin/bash.exe -c vim
 I don't know vim enough to comment on that.
 
 Windows Fossil nowadays uses Notepad.exe as default
 commit editor, isn't that much easier?

notepad easier than vim? Not at all, for a brain trained on vim. :)
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-24 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:53:02AM +0200, Jan Nijtmans wrote:
 2013/7/24 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name:
  I think our main usage for a cygwin fossil is that we develop using a cygwin
  terminal with bash and vim. And we want fossil to spawn vim properly on 
  commit.
 
 That should work, only you should do something like:
 export EDITOR=C:/Cygwin64/bin/bash.exe -c vim
 I don't know vim enough to comment on that.

Ah, the point isn't bash; the point is at processes passing properly the fds
for the *terminal*. I guess that once you put a non-cygwin process in the family
tree, the children can't access the terminal ancestor properly.
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[fossil-users] Fossil on cygwin64

2013-07-22 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

today I built fossil on cygwin64, and it built but it didn't work. Cloning, a
line in os_win.c complained about not having permission to create a file (a tmp
file with some kind of random string) in C:/windows.

I wonder... why is it running any os_win code? shouldn't cygwin look like unix, 
to
fossil?

I've been using happily fossil in cygwin 32-bit since years, and only today I
tried this cygwin64 (completely new for me). Has anyone tried it? Maybe I am
doing something very wrong.

I tried both the 'configure' makefile, and Makefile.classic.

Regards,
Lluís.
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[fossil-users] autosync with fossil merge

2013-07-19 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

I think I wrote this before, but I use autosync, and I often end up making a
fossil merge of a locally-outdated branch. It's quite annoying. :)

Should fossil merge autosync before attempting the merge, if autosync is set?

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] autosync with fossil merge

2013-07-19 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 01:43:15PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  I think I wrote this before, but I use autosync, and I often end up making
  a
  fossil merge of a locally-outdated branch. It's quite annoying. :)
 
  Should fossil merge autosync before attempting the merge, if autosync is
  set?
 
 
 If it did that then it would do a sync where none is required for the
 majority of cases, and that sync would fail if the user is offline. That
 would force the majority-case user who is offline to turn off autosync
 before doing any merging.

You could say the same about fossil update for switching branches, or
committing, and they do autosync. I don't see why fossil merge should be
different.
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Re: [fossil-users] autosync with fossil merge

2013-07-19 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 07:26:57PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  That way, we are never caught off guard.
 
 
 Until there's an unintended fork, then it leads into an area new users
 probably aren't comfortable with - merging and conflict resolution.
 Autosync used to be off by default but in practice we saw unintended forks
 all too often.

We have two use cases: with autosync and without autosync. People can
choose one or the other, no matter the default.

But I think that the 'autosync' case should not mean 'autosync' for only some
commands (update, commit) but not all (merge).

For me autosync means that I can look at the ui of our shared fossil server, and
use local operations based on the information I see in the shared webserver
(considering that there can be races).

I look at the central webserver for branch X, and I know that my local fossil
update X will bring me there. But annoys me that I want to merge that branch X
into my current branch, and it silently gets the *local X* (that can be very
outdated), not server's.

Stephan, I understand that you don't like autosync, but I find it very useful.
:)
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Re: [fossil-users] Side-by-side diff improvement

2013-07-07 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 11:49:56AM -0400, Joel Bruick wrote:
 Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 I still have to test this scrollbar proposal (I don't like much scrollbars
 inside windows which already have scrollbars...), but at least it goes into 
 a good direction.
 
 Heh, I'm with you 99% of the time on excessive scrollbar hatred, but
 for this situation I think it's really the best way to do it.

It's the style used by meld and those very useful programs, at least. :)
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Re: [fossil-users] Side-by-side diff improvement

2013-07-06 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 02:34:38PM +0300, Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, Joel Bruick wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I've committed a pretty big changeto the diff
  code(http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/4081a91c84) , and I'd
  like some other people to take a look at it/test it out before it
  (maybe/hopefully) gets merged into the trunk.
  
  The purpose of this commit is, as the commit message says, to support
  arbitrary line lengths with synced horizontal scrolling in
  side-by-side diffs.  Here's an example of it in action on a test copy
  of the Fossil repo:
  http://joelface.com/fossil/fdiff?v1=98aec3c55155011bv2=d74d0c320c455abdsbs=1(you
  can click anywhere inside a diff and use the left/right arrow keys to
  scroll)
  
 Thank you! I looked for this for months. At the end, sbs diff does not
 break long UTF-8 lines
 
   
 http://91.208.39.24:8080/lipsum/vdiff?from=6a58f2dd9ada9a81to=8b0984ab46648f58sbs=1
 
 New sbs diff engine with scroll bars looks great (tested on Linux:
 Firefox  Google Chrome). I could not live without it.

In the 'annotate_links' branch, since many months there is a patch that does not
break lines. For us it was inacceptable that a 'diff' could *hide* the
differences, due to some forced wrap length.

It mainly calculated the max line, and took it as the wrap length.

I still have to test this scrollbar proposal (I don't like much scrollbars
inside windows which already have scrollbars...), but at least it goes into a
good direction.

Thank you!
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil, proxies and SSL, revisited

2013-06-17 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:56:03AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Brandon Invergo bran...@invergo.netwrote:
 
 
  However, when I attempt to sync my Fossil repositories, I receive the
  following error:
 
  $ fossil sync https://user:p...@repos.invergo.net/reponame
  via proxy: http://proxy.company.com:8080
  fossil: server says: 503 Service Unavailable: 0
 
 
 I don't know that much about proxies, since I never personally need to deal
 with them.  But maybe they should be disabled for HTTPS?

To use https over an http proxy, fossil should use a CONNECT http proxy
command. After success on that, it's like a normal direct connection to the
remote https server, and all TLS happens without the proxy understanding a word.
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Re: [fossil-users] Did you know that Fossil could do...

2013-05-28 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 09:08:10AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 Survey:  How many people know that in the web-based timeline for Fossil,
 you can click on any two nodes in the graph and get a diff between those
 two nodes?
 
 I think this is a very useful feature.  But I'm guessing that not many
 people know it exists.  Please confirm or refute my guess.

I knew, but we rarely use it. What we use all day is the vdiff to parent
branch feature implemented in the 'annotate_links' branch. :) We use it all the
time.

That vdiff to parent branch fits much better our use case, at a single click.
No need to find versions.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Wiki-Pages synchronisation

2013-05-13 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Andy Bradford 
 amb-fos...@bradfords.orgwrote:
 
 
  When I  first learned  about fossil and  the integrated  tickets/wiki, I
  assumed that  both of these  features were also version  controlled just
  like any other might that might exist in the repository.
 
 
 The Wiki is version controlled with a DAG, just like code.  But it is a
 separate and independent DAG.  And the current user interface does not give
 you access to the details of the change history.  That UI could be enhanced
 to do that, if there is a need, but in 6 years nobody has complained and so
 it has not yet happened.

And now that there have been complains? :)

Does anyone want to endeavour the task?

I've the feeling that the question had come up before, but simply noone
developed a solution.

Another approach is to say, next year, in 7 years nobody has complained. ;)
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Re: [fossil-users] Wiki-Pages synchronisation

2013-05-08 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 01:01:42PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  In fact, I don't see why most VCS tend (somehow propose) to *not commit*
  merge
  conflicts before solving the conflicts. That makes the conflict solution
  'disappear' from the timeline.
 
  I think it's fine in committing the conflict marks, and then the solution
  be an
  explicit extra checkin. The wiki and tickets could work that way.
 
 
 But in the wiki it can't work that way at the moment - they are committed
 as soon as you click save. If we were to do a proper merge at that point we
 would have no choice but to either NOT save the changes (returning to the
 editor with the conflict-marked version), or to save the conflicted
 version. The first option has other side effects (e.g. it would affect
 fossil wiki commit pageName FILENAME). In an automated process the second
 option would produce conflicts which probably largely go unnoticed.

There could be some kind auto-merge-leaves. Would that work?
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Re: [fossil-users] Wiki-Pages synchronisation

2013-05-08 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 07:28:59AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  I don't see why most VCS tend (somehow propose) to *not commit* merge
  conflicts before solving the conflicts. That makes the conflict solution
  'disappear' from the timeline.
 
 
 One reason: Having non-working code in the tree makes doing a bisect very
 difficult.

Ah, good one.

Maybe then the code doing diffs on a bisect could be clever enough to understand
a merge conflict.
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Re: [fossil-users] TH1 bomb

2013-05-08 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
I see the same.

On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 07:02:28PM +0300, Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
 Caught by a chance (try evaluate info in TH1 without a sub-command)
 
   % ./fossil test-th-eval info ;# bomb (100% cpu/mem usage)
   Segmentation fault
 
 Is it reproducible?
 
 More pain for a server
 
   /admin_th1
 
   TH1:
   [info  ]
   [  ]
   [  ]
   [ Run TH1 ]
 
 Out of memory?
 
 NOTE: Fossil version below is just for a reference, I do not say that
   entered something wrong.
 
   % ./fossil
   This is fossil version 1.25 [0264475c4a] 2013-05-08 04:12:07 UTC
 
 Just in case (if TH1 depends on Tcl)
 
   % tclsh
   % info patchlevel
   8.5.13
   % parray tcl_platform
   tcl_platform(byteOrder)   = littleEndian
   tcl_platform(machine) = i686
   tcl_platform(os)  = Linux
   tcl_platform(osVersion)   = 2.6.32-41-generic
   tcl_platform(platform)= unix
   tcl_platform(pointerSize) = 4
   tcl_platform(threaded)= 1
   tcl_platform(user)= sg
   tcl_platform(wordSize)= 4
 
 
 Sergei
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket 'subsystem' field?

2013-03-24 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 09:37:41PM +, org.fossil-scm.fossil-us...@io7m.com 
wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I can set the subsystem field of a given ticket to XYZ with fossil
 ticket set X subsystem XYZ, but I can't seem to work out how to
 populate the drop down subsystem menu in the web interface. Is this
 documented anywhere?
 
 I sort of expected entries to appear there after I'd set the fields of
 a few tickets, but they didn't.

No, they are fixed in the HTML of the New Ticket or Edit Ticket pages, maybe
through the Common Ticket page.
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[fossil-users] Bad link to 'Add attachment' in timeline

2013-03-18 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

the links to the attachments added are broken in the timeline.
Example:
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?u=stephanc=2013-01-25+17%3A41%3A18ndn=2
(Look for Add attachment and click the attachment link).

I'm not sure how to fix it. Simply remove %R in these two lines?
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/artifact/8d368b881c72e53c84c5eb0f6b3e3d0aa879e6ca?ln=1874-1890

Regards,
Lluís.

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Re: [fossil-users] Good repository to test scalability of fossil

2013-03-08 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 03:12:24PM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 09:09:56AM -0500, Martin Gagnon wrote:
  I know someone recently test with the NetBSD port tree, but port tree is a
  bit less realistic since it contain a incredible huge number of small files
  with an incredible number of commits.
 
 http://netbsd.sonnenberger.org
 http://pkgsrc.sonnenberger.org

Nice that you still maintain these!

That reminds me... is there any way that 'clone' gives a % of completion, ETA, 
or so?
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[fossil-users] bisect 'test failed'

2013-03-05 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

fossil bisect currently only allows 'good' or 'bad'. Looking for the
introduction of a bug requires also the state of can't test, because a checkin
could be so broken that doesn't allow determining if the checkin is 'good' or
'bad'.

Could that 3rd state be introduced? Git allows it easily, for example.

Thank you,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] bisect 'test failed'

2013-03-05 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:48:13AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  fossil bisect currently only allows 'good' or 'bad'. Looking for the
  introduction of a bug requires also the state of can't test, because a
  checkin
  could be so broken that doesn't allow determining if the checkin is 'good'
  or
  'bad'.
 
  Could that 3rd state be introduced? Git allows it easily, for example.
 
 
 What does bisect do when you give it a can't test?

Suggest another version to test, and keep on going.
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Re: [fossil-users] bisect 'test failed'

2013-03-05 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 05:54:39PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:48:13AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
  vi...@viric.namewrote:
  
   Hello,
  
   fossil bisect currently only allows 'good' or 'bad'. Looking for the
   introduction of a bug requires also the state of can't test, because a
   checkin
   could be so broken that doesn't allow determining if the checkin is 'good'
   or
   'bad'.
  
   Could that 3rd state be introduced? Git allows it easily, for example.
  
  
  What does bisect do when you give it a can't test?
 
 Suggest another version to test, and keep on going.

Look for 'skip' in git-bisect(1). I think that explains better my idea.

Notice that there is a 'git bisect run' error code that the program can return,
to indicate 'skip'.

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Re: [fossil-users] bisect 'test failed'

2013-03-05 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 12:02:21PM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
   
What does bisect do when you give it a can't test?
  
   Suggest another version to test, and keep on going.
 
  Look for 'skip' in git-bisect(1). I think that explains better my idea.
 
  Notice that there is a 'git bisect run' error code that the program can
  return,
  to indicate 'skip'.
 
 
 That documentation doesn't really tell me very much.  But I'll try to come
 up with something.  Just not right now as there are several other issues on
 other projects that need to take priority, and you can easily work around
 this by typing fossil up next or fossil up prev when you hit an
 untestable check-in.

oh perfect. I didn't know this. Thank you!

(btw, remember that annotate is broken :)
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[fossil-users] The finfo page, and the graph there

2013-03-02 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

I never understood quite well the 'finfo' page arrows. Is there any detailed
explanation of it, and what the arrows mean?

I've the feeling that the last file change in trunk there appearing, does not
mean it's the last state of the file in last trunk, and that always confused
me.  Can it be?

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] The finfo page, and the graph there

2013-03-02 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Great explanation, Richard! Thank you a lot!

Part of my confusion was related to me never noticing the 'Full' link at the
top.

Best regards,
Lluís.

On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 09:48:01AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I never understood quite well the 'finfo' page arrows. Is there any
  detailed
  explanation of it, and what the arrows mean?
 
 
 Consider two graphs of the same file:
 
(1)  http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/finfo?name=src/add.cfco=1
(2)  http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/finfo?fco=0name=src/add.c
 
 (1) is the simplified graph and (2) is the full graph.  The simplified
 graph (1) is shown by default.
 
 In the simplified graph, each version of a file is shown exactly once, and
 it is shown in the branch where it first appears.  The arrows show the
 progression of versions.  Arrows point from the old version of a file to
 its next derived version.  In example (1), [4f9777f58961d887] is an edit of
 [1560b7c42162a2cb] which is an edit of [c877f19ebec7aa01].
 
 Sometimes the arrows jump from one branch to another.  This is because a
 file can be carried forward, without change, from one branch to another.  A
 new node only appears in the finfo graph when the file is changed.  So, for
 example [c877f19ebec7aa01] was originally on trunk.  But that version was
 carried forward into the invalid-unicode branch when that branch was
 started.  Later, [c877f19ebec7aa01] was changed into [1560b7c42162a2cb]
 inside the invalid-unicode branch.  When invalid-unicode was merged into
 trunk, the [1560b7c42162a2cb] change was carried forward into trunk when
 invalid-unicode was merged, but no new node appears on the finfo graph
 because the add.c file was not modified by this merge.  Later still, the
 add.c file was changed again from [1560b7c42162a2cb] to [c877f19ebec7aa01]
 while on trunk.
 
 The full graph (2) shows every occasion where a particular instance of the
 add.c file appears in any check-in and in any branch.  You can see that
 [1560b7c42162a2cb] first appeared in invalid-unicode, but later also
 appeared in other branches ticket-d17d6e5b17, trunk,
 convert_before_commit_v2, and improve_commit_warning.  Merge arrows are
 used to show that these are all exactly the same file, that just happened
 to be used in multiple places.
 
 Key point:  The simplified finfo graph shows only the first occurrence of
 any particular file version.  When a file version first appears in a branch
 and is only later merged into trunk, the node for the file appears on a
 branch in the finfo graph.
 
 
 
  I've the feeling that the last file change in trunk there appearing,
  does not
  mean it's the last state of the file in last trunk, and that always
  confused
  me.  Can it be?
 
  Regards,
  Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Odd problem syncing to fossil repo

2013-02-28 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 02:12:21PM +0200, Ron Aaron wrote:
 When I disable my machine's firewall I have the same problem.
 
 But  all my other fossil repos (against my own server) don't have
 the problem.
 
 I don't understand why the main fossil repo would have any issues,
 since it's all http, and most of the to-and-fro works.  Also, I can
 do a clone successfully.

Can you ensure that the server fossil isn't segfaulting?

 On 02/26/2013 08:48 PM, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org
 mailto:r...@ronware.org wrote:
 
 The weird thing is this happens on a specific machine of mine, but
 I never have seen this problem on other machines.
 
 
 Local firewall?
 
 

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[fossil-users] Broken annotate since trunk 2012-11-15

2013-02-27 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

I think that the change in http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/ee33b951a4 
broke the
annotate in fossil.

We use annotate a lot, but as many know, we don't use trunk, but the
annotate_links branch, that I update only from tie to time. That's why I only
noticed now the issue from November.

Here is an example situation: let's annotate 'diff.c' in the checkin
[ee33b951a4]. With fossil of of trunk and [ee33b951a4], let's look at the line:

  compute_direct_ancestors(cid, iLimit);

it says to be written by:
587dd57fe1 2012-02-10  martin.weber:   compute_direct_ancestors(cid, iLimit);
(http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/annotate?checkin=ee33b951a4063e33filename=src/diff.c)

But it's neither a trunk checkin, neither the merge of this branch 'msw-docco'
changes these lines once merged into trunk:
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?f=587dd57fe194af81

If we use the fossil version parent of [ee33b951a4], [dac6424e66a82], we see the
line properly annotated with the trunk checkin:
e161670939 2011-10-19   drh:   compute_direct_ancestors(cid, iLimit);

Richard, do you mind taking a look at it, as you know best the change in
[ee33b951a4]?

Regards,
Lluís.
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[fossil-users] The checkin comment in the info page

2013-02-22 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

the checkin Comment: in the info web page used to be formatted like a wiki. 
Now it
appears formatted as in the timeline. Thus, no newlines, no 'verbatim', ...

Is this intended? I preferred the old way.

Regards,
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[fossil-users] Bad error in case of db locked

2013-02-22 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

I've just tried to commit while I was running another commit in another shell,
and fossil told me such a misleading message :)

Maybe it can be improved.


Autosync: 
fossil: SQL error: database is lockedeceived: 0

If you have recently updated your fossil executable, you might
need to run fossil all rebuild to bring the repository
schemas up to date.


Regards,
Lluís.

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Re: [fossil-users] Making the go tool support fossil

2013-02-21 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:24:27AM +0100, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Konstantin Khomoutov 
 flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 
  IOW, that shell pipeline was just an example demonstrated to you, so
  don't be too attached to the fact it requires a shell.
 
 
 That's correct, but Lluis is right in suggesting that we should have a
 command like:
 
   fossil ping repo-address
 
 which can piggyback on the protocols supported by cloning (ssh/http[s]),
 but:
 
 a) does no authentication checks (because we cannot know which permissions
 would be required by later commands).
 b) does no useful work - simply checks for connectivity.
 c) returns a trivial response, e.g. OK or FAIL, and uses the exit code
 to report success/failure.

Well it would be better if it reported something like 'fossil info' for tip. :)
Just to make the command a bit more useful. The go tool will use it for 'ping'
basically, though.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Making the go tool support fossil

2013-02-21 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 02:13:14PM +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:28:52 +0100
 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name wrote:
 
 [...]
   That's correct, but Lluis is right in suggesting that we should
   have a command like:
   
 fossil ping repo-address
   
   which can piggyback on the protocols supported by cloning (ssh/http
   [s]), but:
   
   a) does no authentication checks (because we cannot know which
   permissions would be required by later commands).
   b) does no useful work - simply checks for connectivity.
   c) returns a trivial response, e.g. OK or FAIL, and uses the
   exit code to report success/failure.
  
  Well it would be better if it reported something like 'fossil info'
  for tip. :)
 
 This might contradict point (a) above in certain setups, does it?
 I mean that my own repos require authentication only for pushing but
 supposedly there might be some use for locked down private repos.
 I just don't know is it possible to fully lock a Fossil repo so that
 any access to it must be authenticated.

I find this behaviour reasonable:
If the url had a username, it could ask for a password. And in any case, if the
rights aren't ok to fetch the info, it should fail.

I'd make it work with the 'timeline' or 'clone' permission flags.
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Re: [fossil-users] Feature requests: fossil ui and server improvements

2013-02-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 09:40:27AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Carson Chittom car...@wistly.net wrote:
 
  Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com writes:
 
   There is also no reason to prohibit text-based browsers. i'm not aware of
   any which support JavaScript, meaning that they will be severely
  castrated
   when using fossil, but it would be wrong to prohibit them just because
  X11
   isn't running.
 
  Links[1] supports at least some Javascript.  Not sure how well--I've
  only ever used it on the couple of occasions I've needed to SSH from
  work to my home computer and fiddle with the web interface on the
  wireless point.
 
  [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_%28web_browser%29
 
 
 Interesting.  I never thought to try that, but it does work.  I did this:
 
sudo apt-get install lynx
fossil setting web-browser lynx
fossil ui
 
 ... and it works!  You don't see the timeline graph (of course) and the
 side-by-side diff display doesn't work, but a lot of things do work.

I've used it several times; I recall there were some issues about the spawn of
the text browser, but I can't remember now.

And I think elinks is more clever than links, for javascript, iirc. I use elinks
most, among textmode browsers.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Change the CSS

2013-02-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 03:43:35PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 what is the usual process of updating the CSS?
 
 I see in /setup_editcss that the text editable is not the same as the 
 'default'
 below. I click Revert to Default, and the editable text is still different.
 
 I also see that the default header picks style.css?default. It looks like, 
 by
 default, it doesn't get the CSS defined in the text control, but the default
 CSS.
 
 So, in order to get a modification over the default CSS, how to proceed?

Oh, I see the trouble! In style.c, there are hardcoded CSS parts. And they are
emitted *after* the normal css.

Shouldn't the whole CSS be configurable?

Additionally, the CSS admin page is a bit confusing, because it shows uneditable
text as 'Default' below, without distinction from the editable.

Specifically, I wanted to change the table.report style. Any ideas?

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Change the CSS

2013-02-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 09:54:49AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 03:43:35PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
   what is the usual process of updating the CSS?
  
   I see in /setup_editcss that the text editable is not the same as the
  'default'
   below. I click Revert to Default, and the editable text is still
  different.
  
   I also see that the default header picks style.css?default. It looks
  like, by
   default, it doesn't get the CSS defined in the text control, but the
  default
   CSS.
  
   So, in order to get a modification over the default CSS, how to proceed?
 
  Oh, I see the trouble! In style.c, there are hardcoded CSS parts. And they
  are
  emitted *after* the normal css.
 
 
 Those hardcoded parts are the defaults and are only inserted if you omit
 alternatives from the user-specified CSS.

Ah, I've seen that if I add one with the same element naming, the default is not
emitted anymore.

I find it quite a weird and unexpected behaviour, for a person that only has
seen the CSS Admin page. :)
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[fossil-users] Making the go tool support fossil

2013-02-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

I'm trying to add fossil support to the 'go tool', as it supports other VCSs:
http://golang.org/cmd/go/#hdr-Remote_import_path_syntax

Adding fossil supprt requires lots of changes, due to a lack of similarity with
the other VCS supported. The current code is not flexible enough, and I think
that some of the pieces it requires from the VCS would be nice to have in
fossil.

Specifically, these things would be much easier if:
1) there were a way to clone+checkout at once into a subdirectory:
  fossil clonedir http://blabla.org/ blabla
  # ^ It creates blabla/, blabla/.repository.fossil, and in it, checks out
  # the .repository.fossil, for example
2) and if there were a way to check if an upstream repository answers
correctly, other than by cloning into a file:
  fossil remoteinfo http://blabla.org/
  # ^ Error if the other side isn't a fossil repository

The point '2' is important because go uses some kind of addresses without the
front protocol: blabla.org/repo for example. And then it uses the required
command 2 to test different modifiers:  http://, https://, ... Currently I've 
no
way other than cloning (and this requires creating a file!) to test the future
client sync.

The currently supported VCS have a way to run these commands: bazaar, git,
mercurial, subversion.

Is there any chance that fossil gets into that shape? Even if partially?
Otherwise the 'go' patch just to support fossil will be a so big rework, that
will be much harder to be accepted.

As a note, here is the current vcs handling code:
http://golang.org/src/cmd/go/vcs.go

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Making the go tool support fossil

2013-02-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 05:00:13PM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  1) there were a way to clone+checkout at once into a subdirectory:
fossil clonedir http://blabla.org/ blabla
# ^ It creates blabla/, blabla/.repository.fossil, and in it, checks out
# the .repository.fossil, for example
 

 mkdir blabla
 cd blabla
 fossil clone http://blabla.org/ .repo
 fossil open .repo

Sure, I know. But this requires issuing those orders in a shell, and that means
writing per-platform go code, instead of a simple 'universal' exec.Cmd. Because
Windows may have cmd, command, ... Others may have flavours of 'sh', ...

If not using a shell, 'cd' will affect the working directory of the process, or
has to be done after forking, before execing fossil, ...

This is already much more complicated than what has been required until now.

Imagine you have a C program, and no shell. The formula that worked for the
other VCS just doesn't work for fossil.

I will try to do all the new code required for that, but I doubt it will be
accepted easily. And the lack of the command to check an upstream server will
also make my patch look even worse, compared to the code that was there.

Regards,
Lluís
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Re: [fossil-users] Making the go tool support fossil

2013-02-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:18:35PM +0100, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  2) and if there were a way to check if an upstream repository answers
  correctly, other than by cloning into a file:
fossil remoteinfo http://blabla.org/
# ^ Error if the other side isn't a fossil repository
 
 
 As a workaround for this lacking feature (which sounds like a good one to
 me), the json API could be used to see if a URL is-a fossil server
 (assuming json's enabled on the remote):
 
 stephan@tiny:~/cvs/fossil/fossil/src$ wget -q -O /dev/stdout
 http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/cson/index.cgi/json/HAI | grep -q
 'timestamp:'  echo OK
 OK || echo NOK
 
 If it's not enabled:
 
 stephan@tiny:~/cvs/fossil/fossil/src$ wget -q -O /dev/stdout
 http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/json/HAI | grep -q 'timestamp:'  echo
 OK || echo NOK
 NOK

Hello Stephan,

Thank you, I didn't know this. But again, this supposes we have a shell
interpreter. We don't have a shell interpreter there, and don't want to depend
on one. :)

('We' as a shortcut for what I suppose will be the answer of the go community:
we will first not support fossil, instead of depending on multiplatform code for
shell interpreters. Not that I'm representative of anything around go)

Thank you,
Lluís
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[fossil-users] Password asked per push

2013-02-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello all,

can I set the remote in some way, so my upstream password isn't stored to disk,
but the url and the username are so? I'd like the password to be asked per push
or sync command.

I'd feel safer and more comfortable this way, when I have a local repository
in computers under not only my control.

Regards,
Lluís.
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[fossil-users] Change the CSS

2013-02-17 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

what is the usual process of updating the CSS?

I see in /setup_editcss that the text editable is not the same as the 'default'
below. I click Revert to Default, and the editable text is still different.

I also see that the default header picks style.css?default. It looks like, by
default, it doesn't get the CSS defined in the text control, but the default
CSS.

So, in order to get a modification over the default CSS, how to proceed?

Regards,
Lluís.
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[fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

having a repository with ticket 'append' artifacts without mimetype doesn't
work well with fossil trunk ([a1d2cd84b8]).

This is the case of many old 'append' artifacts, and also the case of new
artifacts if the Edit Ticket page isn't updated to add the mimetype.

I think that any lack of mimetype should be considered html, and compose
the final ticket page normally.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Sorry, I said 'mimetype' because it's the first thing I saw. But I see the
whole ticket +comment kind of artifact disappeared, and icomment, login,
... are used instead.

So, my guess is that +comment kind of tickets are ignored now, at ticket
contents composition.

I just can't find that code now, to propose a patch. :)

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 05:50:18PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 Hello,
 
 having a repository with ticket 'append' artifacts without mimetype doesn't
 work well with fossil trunk ([a1d2cd84b8]).
 
 This is the case of many old 'append' artifacts, and also the case of new
 artifacts if the Edit Ticket page isn't updated to add the mimetype.
 
 I think that any lack of mimetype should be considered html, and compose
 the final ticket page normally.
 
 Regards,
 Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
To reproduce it, just use the 'fossil' repository, and rebuild it. Look how no
tickets have comments anymore.

A random example of ticket with comments:
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/tktview?name=47d4e76139

Try it in a rebuilt repository.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 05:56:40PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 Sorry, I said 'mimetype' because it's the first thing I saw. But I see the
 whole ticket +comment kind of artifact disappeared, and icomment, login,
 ... are used instead.
 
 So, my guess is that +comment kind of tickets are ignored now, at ticket
 contents composition.
 
 I just can't find that code now, to propose a patch. :)
 
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 05:50:18PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
  Hello,
  
  having a repository with ticket 'append' artifacts without mimetype 
  doesn't
  work well with fossil trunk ([a1d2cd84b8]).
  
  This is the case of many old 'append' artifacts, and also the case of new
  artifacts if the Edit Ticket page isn't updated to add the mimetype.
  
  I think that any lack of mimetype should be considered html, and compose
  the final ticket page normally.
  
  Regards,
  Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:16:23PM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
 Both +comment and icomment are supported in the latest code.  If you are
 running a recent Fossil (that you have compiled yourself from sources) and
 you load the latest ticket schema and scripts, then rebuild, all of your
 comments should be preserved.  At least they are for me.

Humm here all +comment don't appear in the ticket page, using [a1d2cd84b8].

I build fossil (make fossil), I rebuild (./fossil rebuild), and show the UI
(./fossil ui). And for me the fossil tickets don't have any comments +comment.

Can you double check? I just doublechecked with a make clean in the middle, with
the same outcome.

 Note also that nothing is ever lost.

Yes sure, I know. :)

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:41:47PM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:16:23PM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
   On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
   vi...@viric.namewrote:
  
   Both +comment and icomment are supported in the latest code.  If you are
   running a recent Fossil (that you have compiled yourself from sources)
  and
   you load the latest ticket schema and scripts, then rebuild, all of your
   comments should be preserved.  At least they are for me.
 
  Humm here all +comment don't appear in the ticket page, using
  [a1d2cd84b8].
 
  I build fossil (make fossil), I rebuild (./fossil rebuild), and show the UI
  (./fossil ui). And for me the fossil tickets don't have any comments
  +comment.
 
  Can you double check? I just doublechecked with a make clean in the
  middle, with
  the same outcome.
 
 
 The code to display legacy +comment fields is here:
 
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/artifact/e736285953?ln=484-495
 
 Note that the block of code above is part of the default View Ticket Page
 script.  If you have modified your View Ticket Page to contain different
 code, then your modifications might not be showing the legacy +comment
 fields.

If I don't rebuild the database, the comments appear fine. If I rebuild, they
don't appear.

Does this match the situation? Because it seems to me unrelated to the 'view
ticket page'. Maybe I just imagine wrong how ticket pages get composed. :)

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 01:23:46PM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
 
  If I don't rebuild the database, the comments appear fine. If I rebuild,
  they
  don't appear.
 
  Does this match the situation? Because it seems to me unrelated to the
  'view
  ticket page'. Maybe I just imagine wrong how ticket pages get composed. :)
 
 
 Both SQLite and Fossil contain many legacy tickets (w/o the new icomment
 field) and a few newer tickets that include the icomment field.  When I
 rebuild those repositories, I see all comments - both the legacy +comment
 comments and the newer icomment comments.  This is with the default setup.
 
 I do not know why this is not working for you.

Ah ok. I've tried a new clone of fossil, and in the new clone it works.
O
In three repositories I have, I see the missing 'oldstyle' comments. But how is
it that I see the effect only after 'rebuild'? If it's related to rebuild, what
can it be? Is th1 code run at rebuild?

I keep on trying to find this out :)
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 07:38:38PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 01:23:46PM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
  vi...@viric.namewrote:
  I do not know why this is not working for you.
 
 Ah ok. I've tried a new clone of fossil, and in the new clone it works.
 In three repositories I have, I see the missing 'oldstyle' comments. But how 
 is
 it that I see the effect only after 'rebuild'? If it's related to rebuild, 
 what
 can it be? Is th1 code run at rebuild?

Oh, I was just wrong in this test. I was cloning using an old fossil (thus the
rebuild was done by an old fossil).

I built a new fossil, cloned the fossil repository, and looked at the tickets.
They don't have comments. I'm a bit confused why we don't see the same in
this simple case.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Ticket changes and mimetype

2013-02-12 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 07:49:34PM +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 I built a new fossil, cloned the fossil repository, and looked at the tickets.
 They don't have comments. I'm a bit confused why we don't see the same in
 this simple case.

Ok, I've just pushed a fix for what I see. I wonder how it was working for you:
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/9cca9398ab

Feel free to rewrite it or revert it, if you think it's not convenient.

Regards,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] cannot find a common ancestor between the current checkout

2013-02-03 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 12:59:08PM +0800, Daniel YC Lin wrote:
 I don't know why my repository become two track?
 How to solve this?

Have you run fossil sync before that? Are you sure you have dd76 locally?

 $  fossil stat
 
 repository:   /home/dlin/fs/abs.fossil
 local-root:   /home/dlin/prj/nextvod/src/abs/
 checkout: 0cf4b729c29643e5a8e7793e7328693b964edb7d 2013-02-03 04:42:51
 UTC
 parent:   627d55889819db66d6bea82b529eee061d906ae6 2013-02-02 05:24:31
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 tags: trunk
 comment:  for install [base] packages (user: dlin)
 
 $ fossil merge dd76
 
 fossil: cannot find a common ancestor between the current checkout and dd76

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Re: [fossil-users] Proper use of revert

2013-01-30 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 02:48:33PM -0800, Arnel Legaspi wrote:
 Hello -
 
 Yesterday I needed to revert back a commit involving 2 files to its parent
 commit.
 The working copy was at the tip (1255785c96) and I needed to get back to
 revision 4002407825.
 When I tried running fossil revert -r 4002407825 I got the following
 error:
 
 fossil: the --revision option does not work for the entire tree
 
 What did the trick was fossil merge --backout 1255785c96 which is
 strange, since this is not a merge.
 The timeline UI for this particular repo shows a straight line graph.
 
 Shouldn't the 'revert' command act the way I was looking for? The help
 message does state
 Revert all files if no file name is provided. What am I missing?

Reverts removes changes in your *working directory*. It's not about reverting
code already checked int.

You want 'fossil merge -backout' I guess. The help for merge explains better.

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Re: [fossil-users] howto `grep' through old revisions

2013-01-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 08:59:19AM +0100, Gilles wrote:
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:10:26 -0700, Matt Welland
 estifo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, didn't paste in the second grep:
 
 Thanks for contributing this work-around. I guess it shows that
 there's a need for an easy, integrated grep to find code in the
 repository.

Well, at least for me, it's very important to be able to grep wiki pages and
specially tickets too. I think 'export'  won't work, right?

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Re: [fossil-users] howto `grep' through old revisions

2013-01-28 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:21:03AM +0100, Gilles wrote:
 On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 08:40:14 -0500, Richard Hipp
 d...@sqlite.org wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
  On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 01:51:51PM +0100, Gilles wrote:
  
   Since this thread is a bit long, I'd like to ask: At this point, what
   is the solution to find a piece of code that can be in any revision in
   any file in the repository?
 
  As I said early in the thread, deconstruct + grep. :)
 
 What do you mean by deconstruct? Checking files out?

As this question goes to me...
$ fossil help deconstruct
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Re: [fossil-users] howto `grep' through old revisions

2013-01-28 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:01:32AM +0100, Gilles wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:43:19 +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
 vi...@viric.name wrote:
  What do you mean by deconstruct? Checking files out?
 
 As this question goes to me...
 $ fossil help deconstruct
 
 Thanks. After running deconstruct, do you just grep through all the
 files, regardless of whether they contain actual code or just the
 output from artifact?

Grep all files

 Is there a way to avoid writing all those files to disk, and just
 output data to STDOUT and read this with grep?

I don't know how to do that.

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Re: [fossil-users] Strange fossil use (multiple leaves)

2013-01-19 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 02:01:56PM +0200, John Found wrote:
 As long as the merge command works on the current checkout, you can do any 
 number of merges and then make a commit. The result should be something 
 similar.
 

But why would someone merge the leave, the previous commit, and also its
previous commit?

Maybe because of a merge without committing, once trunk gets a new checkin,
merge again, then again the same, until at the end you commit?

I quite don't get why would someone do that, though :)

 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:48:59 +0100
 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  looking at the tcl timeline, I've just seen a checkin like this:
  http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/timeline?f=3c4edc83aae0e671
  
  What is that kind of usage? I feel strange that the merge trunk has arrows
  from *3 trunk leaves*, and *2 more checkins* from one of the trunk branches.
  
  What have they typed to achieve that merge? Why do they have multiple 
  'trunk'?
  
  I've no idea of how tcl development works, but I'd like to know what fossil
  usage pattern they use.
  
  Regards,
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[fossil-users] A warning on 'undo'

2013-01-18 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

fossil overwrote some changes I had, without telling, on 'undo' command; I'd
prefer it to give a warning.

I used:
$ fossil merge otherbranch
$ test... edit a file... test... and I decide I don't want the merge
$ fossil undo   # This restores all files merged, ignoring my file edit.

I'd like undo to say Attention: you have modified this file. What do you 
think?

Well, I can always fossil redo, and it'll get back my changes. But a warning
would have been nice.

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[fossil-users] Strange fossil use (multiple leaves)

2013-01-18 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

looking at the tcl timeline, I've just seen a checkin like this:
http://core.tcl.tk/tcl/timeline?f=3c4edc83aae0e671

What is that kind of usage? I feel strange that the merge trunk has arrows
from *3 trunk leaves*, and *2 more checkins* from one of the trunk branches.

What have they typed to achieve that merge? Why do they have multiple 'trunk'?

I've no idea of how tcl development works, but I'd like to know what fossil
usage pattern they use.

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] A warning on 'undo'

2013-01-18 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:46:50AM -0500, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote:
 When in doubt, I run:
 fossil status

Well, I usually don't doubt. If fossil doesn't warn me, I consider it hasn't
thrown away any my local changes. And I don't want to doubt. :)

Regards,
Lluís.

 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
 vi...@viric.name wrote:
  Hello,
 
  fossil overwrote some changes I had, without telling, on 'undo' command; I'd
  prefer it to give a warning.
 
  I used:
  $ fossil merge otherbranch
  $ test... edit a file... test... and I decide I don't want the merge
  $ fossil undo   # This restores all files merged, ignoring my file edit.
 
  I'd like undo to say Attention: you have modified this file. What do you 
  think?
 
  Well, I can always fossil redo, and it'll get back my changes. But a 
  warning
  would have been nice.
 
  Regards,
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[fossil-users] Tags and branches ui

2013-01-10 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

it would be nice if the Tags and Branches ui pages had something more than the
names listed. For example, next to each, could be the date of the head or the
last commit referred to.

What do you think?

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
(top post, due to the complexity of the previous post)

I've found many git-fans that are completely ashamed of how they develop. And
they would never make public how they commit things (how they use the VCS), so
they don't accept other VCS that hasn't git rebasing capabilities.

I can't tell what was first: the shame, shameful vcs usage, or the access to
rebase feature.

I dislike how git handles rebase, because by default it does not invite to
rewriting commit logs. If you read git manuals, you are told that each commit
(and its log) refers to a unique *file tree* (represented by the hash), and not
to a *diff*. But then, they wrote 'rebase', which keeps the commit logs, but
changes all the file trees they were meant for.

Then you have commit logs that say I tested this, and this works. If you
rebase that commit, that looses all that meaning. In fossil, a hash refers to a
specific file tree, that never changes, and checkin comments refer to that hash.

History rewriting also implies that what you could have in your brain memory on 
how you developed something could not match what you have left in the VCS -
after mangling with rebase. I find this also another source of problems.

Regards,
Lluís.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 02:53:23PM +, Eric wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:06:08 -0600, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com 
 wrote:
 snip
 
 Actually I agree with most of Mike Meyer's reply, but I wanted to pick
 this paragraph apart:
 
  How many times have you submitted a patch to an upstream
 
 Well, phrasing it like that says that you are thinking git-style anyway.
 Let's assume a Fossil push with one commit nominated as this is my
 current contribution.
 
  and then been told to make a bunch of changes,
 
 That's only to be expected, so you create a new commit based on your
 previous nominated one, push it and tell them which is your new commit.
 
  re-organize your commits,
 
 I don't see why they (the centre) should do that. It's the result that
 matters, and if they want a pristine tree that includes only approved
 commits they can do that. (See below.)
 
  make specific changes to specific commits,
 
 Why, why, why? It's the result that matters, this is just rewriting
 _your_ history because they feel like it.
 
  and/or squash commits? 
 
 Again, this is about them wanting a pristine tree. Their problem.
 
  Yeah, that's why rebase is good.
 
 Rebase is a lie!
 Rebase is a lie!
 Rebase is a lie!
 
 
 Now for the pristine tree thing. I don't agree with it but if that's
 what the project leads want, they can
 
   1) not permit pushes or syncs, only pulls, and take only real patches,
  which they turn into commits themselves
 
 or
 
   2) have two repositories, a working rep which everybody syncs with, and
  a clean one. Then have a command/script like
 
  accept commit-in-working-rep parent-in-clean-rep
 
   which creates a new child commit in the clean rep and does a pull back
   into the working rep, and which is simple in concept, though there
   will be issues about moves and deletes.
 
   Working this way also raises issues about what to do with wiki pages,
   tickets, and events.
 
 These approaches are not the outright lie that rebase tends to be,
 but merely the leads saying here is the history of the things we have
 approved. They are then depriving everyone of the history of blind
 alleys (which will therefore be followed again and again) and of the
 ideas whose time had not yet come (which will therefore have to be
 re-invented from scratch, or may even be forgotten altogether!).
 
 I think the correct way to deal with unwanted commits is to make proper
 use of branches, and perhaps to have a UI option which shows only things
 in a specified set of branches.
 
 
 Incidentally, there is nothing stopping you, as a remote, barely-trusted
 developer (which is what you are in that sort of scenario) from running
 the two-repository process yourself, so that you sync only from your
 clean repository.
 
 I also think that much of the mess in repositories that people seem to
 want to hide is the result of committing far too frequently, usually in
 the mistaken belief that their VCS is some sort of backup system.
  
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 07:55:28PM +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote:
 On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:20:32 +0100
 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name wrote:
 sarcasmYou guys do really sound as a religious sect./sarcasm

:) well, I think that everyone expects different jobs to be done by a VCS.
As for me, I like it to keep history as it happened. Then, fine if it has
methods to reorganize the data in there, but without loosing the original
history.

Some people see the VCS as a tree where they organize the past development in
the way they prefer, not necessarily linked to history.

 Actually, I intended to write a calm and purely technical response to
 Mike's message pointing out the ideas Git devs had while implementing
 rebasing (I failed to see in this thread any notice of using rebasing to
 help future bisecting, for instance), but the next two messages urged
 me to write this rather off-topic semi-rant.

Git people that rewrite history (using rebase), will tell that they reorganize
the commits so they become more logical. Git does not have a way of doing that
without loosing the history of how all happened.

Of course, git can be used without rebasing. I just haven't met anyone (even me,
who contributes using git in different projects) who doesn't use rebase. And I
use it, because the rest of the team don't want the git graphs crippled with
_unnecessary_ merges.

 TL;DR

Well, there you go. For some people, writing is easier than reading. ;)

 I would really like to have such discussions be more technical and less
 zealous, if possible, please.

Well, I think all this ends up being a matter of taste. Everyone shows their
views. It's like choosing an OS... Some people chose GNU/Linux, despite all the
effort that it requires, because they prefer dealing with fdisk, filesystems,
kernel updates, package managers, ...  than to have the problems of Microsoft
Windows (OS corruption, silent updates, hidden coed, dll hell, crashes, viruses,
etc.). But some people prefer the problems of Windows.  It's a matter of
choosing the problems that annoy you less. :)

And as I mentioned, some people see advantages in having those 'remote' trees
locally, and there are situations where they can be convenient. But for most of
the development I do in a VCS, that's far too heavy.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 04:40:28PM -0600, Nico Williams wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
 vi...@viric.name wrote:
  (top post, due to the complexity of the previous post)
 
  I've found many git-fans that are completely ashamed of how they develop. 
  And
  they would never make public how they commit things (how they use the VCS), 
  so
  they don't accept other VCS that hasn't git rebasing capabilities.
 
 And so on.  Really.  Large projects need order, they need process.
 They need clean trees in official repos.
 
 Without a way to clean history prior to pushing to / pulling into
 official repos a VCS is just hard to use effectively.

I'm not against that; I understand that teams of projects want to organize what
their VCS history looks like. 

What I meant is that (by now) git has only one way of providing such clean 
trees:
destroying the history.

So, for that win (clean the trees at will), there is a forced work pattern: lose
the history. For me the advantadges are less than the disadvantages.

I think both can be achieved, in a VCS. For what I understand, Monotone has
quite nice solutions to that.

One thing is clean *visualisation* (or easy access, whatever), the other is
modifying the raw historical data at the back. Git offers tools to manipulate
the historical data, in order to achieve some visualisation.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-29 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 05:37:35PM -0600, Nico Williams wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell
 vi...@viric.name wrote:
  On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 04:40:28PM -0600, Nico Williams wrote:
  And so on.  Really.  Large projects need order, they need process.
  They need clean trees in official repos.
 
  Without a way to clean history prior to pushing to / pulling into
  official repos a VCS is just hard to use effectively.
 
  I'm not against that; I understand that teams of projects want to organize 
  what
  their VCS history looks like.
 
  What I meant is that (by now) git has only one way of providing such clean 
  trees:
  destroying the history.
 
 That's a strawman.  I very specifically suggested that a fossil rebase
 operation should *always* copy the branch being rebased and then
 rebase that copy.
 
 Now what on Earth could possibly be objectionable about that?

Ah sorry, I was only talking about my objections against git rebase. I don't
know the best way to implement a feature that allows creating 'new history' at
will (not destroying the old).

All I can imagine sounds like a lot of work. :)

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-19 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:06:05PM +0100, Remigiusz Modrzejewski wrote:
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 14:42 , Gilles wrote:
 
  Out of curiosity, if someone is well-versed with Fossil and the main
  DVCS systems (Mercurial, Git), I was wondering how Fossil compares to
  them, for a single user, a small team (up to 20-30), and big teams
  (thousands).
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revision_control_software#Distributed_model
  
  Besides the fact that Fossil includes a wiki and a bug tracker, does
  it offer features that would make it a better solution than the big
  names?
 
 Maybe I missed it skimming the thread, but I didn't notice anyone telling 
 about the big point.
 There is an attitude difference between Fossil and the other two, which put 
 in database terms would be:
 Fossil does replication, Git and Mercurial do sharding.
 
 The big names have been created for huge teams, where people generally don't 
 want to be overwhelmed by tentative work done by others. Therefore they work 
 in isolation, issuing pull requests once the thing is done. Especially in Git 
 it's popular to compress all the commits to be pulled into one big commit. 
 But the important thing is the isolation.
 
 It stands in stark contrast to Fossil's everybody has a copy of everything. 
 In almost all the projects I've seen this is realized by another thing that 
 you don't see in the big names: developers autocommit to a central 
 repository. This renders Fossil basically a modern reincarnation of 
 Subversion, what is appealing to a lot of people. As a bonus you get, a 
 little dumbed down, installation of (distributed) Trac for free with every 
 repository.


This is related to having to keep in mind multiple graph HEADs. In fossil,
shared with two computers, you have as important references:
- computer 1:
  - checkout
  - branch head
- computer 2
  - checkout
  - branch head
But any fossil sync makes branch heads equal in both computers. So, basically,
3 easy points to take into account.


In git, you have as important references for two computers:
- computer 1
  - index
  - checkout
  - branch head
  - remote computer 2 head
- computer 2
  - index
  - checkout
  - branch head
  - remote computer 1 head

There are many commands to propagate from one ref to the other, but I find it 
very
cumbersome (fetch, pull, push, ...). No 'sync' available' to make things easy.
Not to mention that it needs also special operations to propagate the 'other' 
branches
to the remote places.

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] Improvements to side-by-side diff

2012-12-18 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:27:09AM +0100, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
 Maybe joining both ideas? Like coloring the whole word of a more neutral
 color and the difference with the usual bright color?
 
 I think it would be the best as I agree with both point of views.

Fwiw, I'd prefer only the per-character differences to be highlighted. I quite
like what 'meld' does, and that's what I'd like fossil to look like. :)

Regards,
Lluís.

 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Martijn Coppoolse
 li...@martijn.coppoolse.com wrote:
  On 17-12-2012 8:33, Baruch Burstein wrote:
 
  Another suggestion:
  Since visual diffs are always for text files (I think), it doesn't make
  much sense to mark partial words as changed. If the whole word is not
  unchanged, then the whole word is changed. I am referring to things like
  line 73817 on the left in the fourth link below.
 
 
  Respectfully disagree.
 
  The line you refer to works perfectly fine; I see no reason to reduce
  granularity to word level, and every reason to keep it the way it works now:
  if a word is partially changed, I like to see _what_ part was changed.
 
  IMO, diff highlighting should highlight changes, not words.  I can recognize
  words by myself just fine; seeing what exactly changed is what I need the
  highlighting for.
 
  Also, in my case (at least), visual diffs are usually for text files
  representing source code. In code, especially for a case-sensitive language,
  a change to a single character can be crucial.  Reducing highlighting to
  only indicate changes per word makes it more difficult to see this.
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org
  mailto:d...@sqlite.org wrote:
 
  Reposted from fossil-dev:
 
  OLD: http://www2.sqlite.org/src/ci/52e755943f?sbs=1#chunk1
  NEW: http://www.sqlite.org/src/ci/52e755943f?sbs=1#chunk1
 
  OLD:
 
  http://www2.fossil-scm.org/fossil/fdiff?v1=955cc67ace8fb622v2=e2e1c87b86664b45#chunk24
  NEW:
 
  http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/fdiff?v1=955cc67ace8fb622v2=e2e1c87b86664b45#chunk24
 
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil vs. Git/Mercurial/etc.?

2012-12-18 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:29:19PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:42:34 +0100
 Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote:
  Out of curiosity, if someone is well-versed with Fossil and the main
  DVCS systems (Mercurial, Git), 
 
 Fossil: it's strong points are the built-in wiki and ticket tracking
 system, and that it's a single self-contained binary.  What sets it
 apart as a DSCM is autosync mode and that you can have multiple work
 spaces checked out of the same repository.  

Monotone also works as a self-contained binary (written in C++, with more
library dependencies, but all can be statically linked if desired).
And it has a centralised database, from where you can have multiple checkouts
and multiple repositories.

And it has a very powerful tagging mechanism.

Regards,
Lluís.
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[fossil-users] High cpu usage, ci_edit adding tag

2012-12-17 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

adding a tag, in the edit checking page, it takes 15s of server cpu time (a
reasonably fast Atom x86_64) for our repository.

Repository statistics:
Repository Size:274292736 bytes (274.3MB)
Number Of Artifacts:31867 (stored as 12262 full text and 19605 delta blobs)
Uncompressed Artifact Size: 29821 bytes average, 36923728 bytes max, 950291231
bytes (950.3MB) total

What is it doing, in 15s?

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] High cpu usage, ci_edit adding tag

2012-12-17 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 08:28:22AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  adding a tag, in the edit checking page, it takes 15s of server cpu time (a
  reasonably fast Atom x86_64) for our repository.
 
  Repository statistics:
  Repository Size:274292736 bytes (274.3MB)
  Number Of Artifacts:31867 (stored as 12262 full text and 19605 delta
  blobs)
  Uncompressed Artifact Size: 29821 bytes average, 36923728 bytes max,
  950291231
  bytes (950.3MB) total
 
  What is it doing, in 15s?
 
 
 Propagating the consequences of that tag change to thousands of check-ins
 maybe?  What was the tag?  And to which node of your DAG did you add it?

The 3rd checkin, counting from most recent. And it was not a propagating tag.
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Re: [fossil-users] howto `grep' through old revisions

2012-12-05 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 01:51:51PM +0100, Gilles wrote:
 On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:57:41 +0100, j. v. d. hoff
 veedeeh...@googlemail.com wrote:
 question: is there a straightforward (or sqlite-based) way to `grep'  
 through a specified file recursively backward in time through all  
 revisions (or until first hit of the search pattern)?
 
 Since this thread is a bit long, I'd like to ask: At this point, what
 is the solution to find a piece of code that can be in any revision in
 any file in the repository?
 
 I'm looking for a function that I know is a file somewhere, but don't
 know how to proceed.

As I said early in the thread, deconstruct + grep. :)
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Re: [fossil-users] How to change number of columns for a side-by-side diff in the web interface

2012-12-04 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 03:27:37PM -0200, Jonas Malaco Filho wrote:
 First, is there an option to change the number of columns for side-by-side
 diffs on the web interface? Also, is there any setting to change the
 default number of columns for SBS diffs, or could one be included?
 
 *Jonas Malaco Filho*

iirc, you can add the GET form parameter 'dc'. dc=90 for example. Add the 
proper 
or ? separators.

I still keep the branch of the fossil we use, 'annotate_links', displaying *all*
columns of each file, in the default SBS show.

We use SBS for reviewing, and once we had neglected a change that was over the
80th column, and went on trunk. Since then, we consider it a risk to have a
trimmed diff.

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] How to change number of columns for a side-by-side diff in the web interface

2012-12-04 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 03:42:46PM -0200, Jonas Malaco Filho wrote:
 Shouldn't it be dw=90?

Ah right. dc is for the number of context lines.

 Also, how did you change the default SBS show?

The source code of the diff is different in trunk and in my branch.

 2012/12/4 Lluís Batlle i Rossell vi...@viric.name
 
  I still keep the branch of the fossil we use, 'annotate_links', displaying
  *all*
  columns of each file, in the default SBS show.
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil as DLL?

2012-11-26 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 01:52:53PM -0600, Nico Williams wrote:
 IIUC the main reason to want a DLL instead of having to spawn a new
 process for every operation is iOS.  I hear that the dearth of
 excellent git (and other) SCM clients for iOS has to do with the
 constrained nature of the run-time environment.

fossil uses fork() quite enough, and its memory management depends on that, for
what I understand.
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Re: [fossil-users] howto `grep' through old revisions

2012-11-24 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:18:55AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:57 AM, j. v. d. hoff 
 veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote:
 
  question: is there a straightforward (or sqlite-based) way to `grep'
  through a specified file recursively backward in time through all revisions
  (or until first hit of the search pattern)?
 
  j.
 
  ps: yes, I would know now (after having learned how to use `fossil
  artifact' correctly...) how to write a shell script doing that. but that
  would mean to dump the full content of each revision and pipe it through
  the grep which will become slow if there are too many revisions. so the
  question is whether the functionality is already builtin (possibly grepping
  through the deltas instead).
 
 
 This functionality is not built-in.  Nobody has ever thought of it before
 in 6 years of use, apparently, or at least has not mentioned it to me.

I use this from time to time. My procedure goes through deconstructing the
database, grepping recursive, and resolving back the hashes with fossil ui.

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] howto `grep' through old revisions

2012-11-24 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:59:58AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:18:55AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
   On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:57 AM, j. v. d. hoff 
  veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote:
  
question: is there a straightforward (or sqlite-based) way to `grep'
through a specified file recursively backward in time through all
  revisions
(or until first hit of the search pattern)?
   
j.
   
ps: yes, I would know now (after having learned how to use `fossil
artifact' correctly...) how to write a shell script doing that. but
  that
would mean to dump the full content of each revision and pipe it
  through
the grep which will become slow if there are too many revisions. so the
question is whether the functionality is already builtin (possibly
  grepping
through the deltas instead).
   
  
   This functionality is not built-in.  Nobody has ever thought of it before
   in 6 years of use, apparently, or at least has not mentioned it to me.
 
  I use this from time to time. My procedure goes through deconstructing the
  database, grepping recursive, and resolving back the hashes with fossil ui.
 
 
 So what should the output look like?  Suppose we implement a command:
 
fossil grep REGEXP FILENAMEGLOB
 
 Which searches all historical versions of files that match FILENAMEGLOB for
 patterns that match REGEXP.  Suppose for concreteness that the regular
 expression is xyzzy and the file is ex1.txt.  If there are 1000
 different revisions of ex1.txt, does it search them all looking for xyzzy
 and show each hit?  Or did it stop going backwards in time at the first hit
 it find?

I don't really know much, what I'd want. When I've used deconstruct, sometimes I
wanted to grep files, sometimes tickets, sometimes checkin comments, sometimes
in-file comments... I guess that 'grep' for only files, and some kind of FTS for
the rest would be very nice.

We use tickets extensively for bug tracking, but bugfixes happen as checkins,
and sometimes we hit oh, I seem to remind that we had a case similar to this.
And then I've to grep all to try to find out, even with different keywords,
because who knows where I had that stored.

But as after having the results, I end up wanting to check all results with the
UI, I guess a ui option with links would be nicer.

Thank you,
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] serious problem with wiki editing

2012-11-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:20:02AM +, K wrote:
 
 This is as a result of a featured added on my behalf, I'm afraid.
 
 There should now be (I haven't found occasion to update my Fossil to 1.24
 given I'd have to repatch the wiki page name length requirement) an option
 somewhere allowing the treatment of [xxx] as wiki mark up.

Sorry, what is this new feature about, and its consequences? And the motivation
of the change?

I might have missed the rationale.

Regards,
Lluís.

 on Nov 19, 2012, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org wrote:
 
 When I add a link [whatever] in my wiki page, as of fossil b058c8a944
 I no longer see the link, but only get the literal text entered!
 
 The repo is set for the default settings, no WYSIWG or HTML
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Re: [fossil-users] serious problem with wiki editing

2012-11-20 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:28:30AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
 vi...@viric.namewrote:
 
  On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:20:02AM +, K wrote:
  
   This is as a result of a featured added on my behalf, I'm afraid.
  
   There should now be (I haven't found occasion to update my Fossil to 1.24
   given I'd have to repatch the wiki page name length requirement) an
  option
   somewhere allowing the treatment of [xxx] as wiki mark up.
 
  Sorry, what is this new feature about, and its consequences? And the
  motivation
  of the change?
 
  I might have missed the rationale.
 
 Please tell me why you think this is not a good idea?  If necessary, it can
 be made optional.  But I couldn't think of a reason to display broken links
 in red rather than just not transforming them at all.

Thank you for the explanation; now that I know the intended behaviour, it looks
fine to me. No objection. :)

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[fossil-users] Search tickets

2012-11-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
Hello,

if I understand correctly, the Tickets system lacks a 'Ticket Search page'.

It allows to create Ticket Reports, but I think it would be nice if it allowed
also to create 'Ticket Search pages'. That'd look like html+th1 (like New
Ticket), but the result operation would be a sql query, and would be available
as a list of pages next to ticket reports. Every user could create their search
pages, like reports.

We use tickets a lot, and have lots of them, and we don't find the creation of
multiple reports easy enough to handle.

What do you think? Any volunteer?

Regards;
Lluís.
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Re: [fossil-users] Help improve bot exclusion

2012-10-30 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 06:17:05AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 Finally: Do you have any further ideas on how to defend a Fossil website
 against runs such as the two we observed on SQLite last night?

This problem affects almost any web software, and I think that job is delegated
to robots.txt. Isn't this approach good enough? And in the particular case of
the fossil standalone server, it could serve a robots.txt.

How do programs like 'viewcvs' or 'viewsvn' deal with that?

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] Questions about fossil

2012-10-21 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 01:29:56PM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
 I love fossil and use it in all my projects, and using I got few
 questions I cannot find the answers...
 
 - Can I change the zip archive name in the check-in page?

The zip file name is the last part of the url, in /zip/anything-UUID.zip.
 - Can I change the directory name inside the zip archive?


The directory name is the ?name=xxx of the zip archive url.

 - It is possible to change a typo in a commit message in autosync mode?
   (without dumping the fossil database, changing the dump, remaking it)

Yes sure; go to the checkin edit page, and change it. That will generate a new
ticket with the commit message change, and all sync-ed fossil will show the
updated checkin message for that checkin.
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Re: [fossil-users] Handling merge conflicts?

2012-10-21 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 02:54:06PM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 In the change above, there is no explicit resolve step.  Fossil
 automatically senses whether or not you have resolved the conflict through
 editing.

I think that the change misses one of the most valuable situations - those of
binary files conflict, where comitting directly after merge would destroy any
evidence of conflict.

I got that by a quick glance at the patch though; I may have missed something.

Regards,
Lluís.

 You can get rid of those extra files with the new --temp option to the
 fossil clean command:  fossil clean --temp

That's a nice option! :) Thank you!
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Re: [fossil-users] add/commit file through web interface

2012-10-17 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:44:37AM -0400, Ron Wilson wrote:
 I'm sorry. It is burried in there. We were looking for it on the New
 Ticket page. Weird that all 6 of us would miss that.

We use the ticket attachments quite a lot. It works fine here, and it's enough
for our needs.

 On 10/16/12, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:
  On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How much would it take to enabled add+commit a file via the web
  interface?
 
  Specifically, as a means to attach files to tickets. We have
  unsophistocated users who are asking for the ability to submit tickets
  themselves rather than rely on us in SW development to enter tickets
  on their behalf. This makes sense because we almost always have to ask
  for more information,  The problem these users have is including
  supporting files, like diagrams, photographs, log files, etc, with
  tickets. With in our team, we can easily add and commit files is a
  reserved directory, then paste in links in the tickets. These other
  users have much difficulty doing that.
 
 
  There is an Attachment mechanism that works for Wiki pages.  I thought I
  had that going for Tickets too, though perhaps I never got around to that.
  (I haven't had that itch yet.)  Giving users the ability to add attachments
  to tickets seems like a better approach, since it avoids cluttering the
  source code with attachment files.
 
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Downloading raw artifacts

2012-10-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:30:56PM +0200, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:19:28PM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
  An artifact does not necessarily have a filename, or it might have multiple
  filenames.  Nevertheless, we can guess at the filename, and from that guess
  at the mimetype.
  
  http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/af16836c23
  
 
 Thank you! I'll test it.
 
 I thought you would change the link to the Raw download:
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/artifact/33360c8c6055dfacfd6c6e7a98b0fc4bc42d6e59?ln=1446
 
 to include m=blabla, as done a bit below, 
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/artifact/33360c8c6055dfacfd6c6e7a98b0fc4bc42d6e59?ln=1492
 
 Will your change work for an artifact that comes as a wiki page attachment?
 (that was my original case).

I wrote a code change that makes this work for the attachments:
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/5f3916ac5b

Regards,
Lluís.
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