Using Maker eliminates FO. Instead, you set up a Maker template, and work in
near WYSIWYG. If you will use Maker, definitely, use structured Maker. You
could use a simplified structure -- not necessarily DITA. For example, why not
use XHTML? Then you can make your PDF look like whatever
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
Using Maker eliminates FO. Instead, you set up
I'm sorry, but at a certain level this question is either too general (would
require a collection of books to answer) or nonsensical (no context to base the
comparison on).
I think the first question should be, what are you trying to achieve? If all
you want is an in-house process for a
Flare vs. Frame with DITA-FMx sounds like a toss-up. I assume you are familiar
with Frame, since you are asking on this list, so why start with something new?
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On 13-Apr-15 8:20 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
Thanks everyone.
Sorry I wasn’t clear.
If you DON'T have FrameMaker or aren't familiar with using it to
author DITA, and aren't chained to DITA, Flare would probably be way,
way easier.
There's probably some set of requirements where structured FrameMaker
would be the best and/or most cost-effective tool for the job these
days, but
I have used unstructured Frame for 15 years. I am an advanced user.
I have used DITA for 3 with Oxygen. We outsourced writing our scripts.
Now I have to decide if I want to use Frame unstructured or structured for a
new project. There are no legacy docs.
-Gillian
On Apr 14, 2015, at 10:44
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To: Gillian Flato
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
Gillian, when you were talking about scripts... Could you fill us in on what
they do and why they're required?
I've never seen a DITA project (other than legacy ports
Given that you're a very advanced user, you should just get the free
trial of Flare and draw your own conclusions as to whether it would be
cost-effective for your purposes.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net wrote:
I have used unstructured Frame for 15 years. I
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
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To: Gillian Flato
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
Gillian, when you
Gillian, when you were talking about scripts... Could you fill us in on
what they do and why they're required?
I've never seen a DITA project (other than legacy ports) that required
scripting, and am just curious about how they're used.
Art
Art Campbell
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Thanks everyone.
Sorry I wasn’t clear. I’ve used DITA for about two years authoring with Oxygen
and EasyDITA. I outsourced my script writing to a third party. That’s the
problem with DITA. To get the docs and help to look professional, you have to
outsource script writing and that’s expensive.
If your docs are translated, ask your translation service what they
think about Flare vs. DITA.
You can get a 30-day free trial of Flare. Import your DITA and see how
it compares. There can be a steep learning curve at first but once you
find all the features you need it's very flexible.
On Mon
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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
Thanks everyone.
Sorry I wasn’t clear. I’ve used DITA for about two years authoring with Oxygen
and EasyDITA. I outsourced my script writing
If you are interest in switching to topic-based authoring, and you are
using Frame already, it might be easier to stick with Frame and switch
to Structured Frame, which I believe is also topic-based authoring.
(Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
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Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
I think you answered your own question -- if you do need custom scripts to
do DITA and the company can't afford it, it can't afford it.
Given that you probably know FM better than Flare, I'd do FM over Flare
because unstructured Flare isn't going to buy you much, if anything, and
there's still a
.
Which approach is more advantageous is going to depend on what you need overall
now and in the future.
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To: Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
If you
Hi Gillian
Why would you have to hire someone to write scripts if you do DITA?
Just like Art, I'd use FM with DITA-FMx. If you know how to create
unstructured Fm templates, you can easily learn how to modify the
component templates that come with DITA-FMx. Actually, the process is
quite simple:
Flare's not a DITA authoring tool the way Oxygen, XMetal, or
structured FrameMaker are. Oxygen is kind of like a DITA-based Flare.
Flare can export DITA, but since Flare's source is not as structured,
the DITA output might need some work before it would be usable.
Anything you *can* do with
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From: Shmuel shmue...@gmail.com
To: Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
If you are interest in switching to topic-based authoring, and you are
using Frame
You can write topics with any tool, but Flare sort of forces you to,
since the source is one file per topic (at least down to some heading
level).
Flare templates are extremely customizable.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net wrote:
How does Flare compare to
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Best of luck!
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 3:52 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Flare vs DITA
How does Flare compare
DITA is a standard for producing documentation.
Frame, Flare, and a small herd of other editors can create documents that
support the DITA standards.
So you're kind of asking an apples and oranges question -- one doesn't
equal the other; the editors all have different ways of producing content
How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the advantages of
topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write scripts for you.
Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or difficult is that. How
is their help file making product?
Thanks
Gillian
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