Re: Add call to animation in Fm 7.2 document

[Shlomo Perets]

Stephen,

You wrote:

Our Tech Support staff has made several animations in Adobe Captivate as 
the main tool to teach our users certain functionalities. Captivate 
generates output in .SWF + .HTML or .EXE (FlashPlayer wrapped with the 
.SWF file) format) but not .AVI or other common formats.


I will make a prodecural document in FM to give the user the work context 
and convert it to PDF. I cannot add the animations to the FM file because 
File  Import  Object does not accept those formats. And the hypertext 
command that can launch an applicatio in FrameMaker does not work once PDFed.


I know I can simply add buttons to the FM document and convert to PDF, and 
then link the button areas to the .SWF, .HTML, or  EXE files. But each 
time I redo the PDF I will lose the links made to the external files. Our 
goal is to send our document out to specific users and have them test it - 
there will be several iterations of this tool and many new PDF documents 
generated. i will go lonk crazy!


Do you  have any suggestions? is there a better way to do this?



In FrameMaker/Windows, you can establish a link to a file (carried over as 
a link in a PDF file), by using the message openfile filename hypertext 
marker (no quotes, filename replaced with the specific file to be launched 
by the PDF link).


The linked file may of any file type that can be handled in the end-user 
system, and it is displayed using the associated application (after a 
standard security message is displayed).


The press release for FrameMaker 8.0 indicates specific support for SWF -- 
we'll have to wait for the released product to see how this is implemented.


In addition: with the Multimedia Assistant, FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers add-on, multimedia files can be linked/embedded in PDFs, with 
additional controls over how the media is played (floating window or in 
document), controller shown/hidden, media title, web-based media and more.
[ a sample pdf is available at 
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/Guide.pdf -- with 
links/bookmarks displaying web-based media files in a floating window ]



Shlomo Perets

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Re: deleting backup files

[Shmuel Wolfson]

While we are on the subject of external drives, I recommend the laptop 
size external drives. They require a low enough amount of power that 
they can be powered by the USB itself. No need for a power cord. I find 
that to be very convenient. (Check the specs to make sure that they 
don't require external power.)


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



B Hechter wrote:

Thanks to everyone for suggestions on post-production deletion of
unnecessary backup files. I overlooked the obvious Windows command line
interface, so thanks for the reality check.

My 2c on backups:
- Flash USB is temporary storage only, don't depend on it for backup
- Invest in a large capacity external drive and dump EVERYTHING to it 
on a

regularly scheduled basis. I have not yet found any selective backup
synchronization software that meets my needs, but, hey, maybe it's out
there.

Ben


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RE: deleting backup files

[Carol Wade]

Wow. Thanks for the clarification. ...going to the back of the class
now...

-Original Message-
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:26 PM
To: Carol Wade; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: deleting backup files

You don't need the .backup to back out of an unwanted editing
change because right there in the File menu is the Revert to last
saved command, wich does exactly what it says and does not rely
on the the .backup file created by the automatic backup mode.

I can see where a global find and replace could be a case where
it might be necessary to use the .backup files to back out of the
change. But in my own workflow I tend to use variables for anything
that is likely to need to be changed globally, and variable changes
are easy to undo without reverting to an older version of the doc.

But it's important to note that manually reverting to the .backup
is actually taking you back to the version *before* your last save
because the .backup file is *not*a*backup* of the version you
saved. It's the file as it existed *prior*to* the last save. The only
time that this is what you really want to do is when you have
made *and*saved* some unwanted changes and need to revert
to the second previous saved version. The .backup file is always
one save behind the changes you have made, so you'll be throwing
out both the current changes and the last saved set of changes
if you revert to the .backup.

Fred Ridder


From: Carol Wade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: deleting backup files
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:22:23 -0600

Interesting, Fred, that your bacon has never been saved by a .backup. I
tend to work quickly - perhaps a bit too hastily at times. When I
realize that I have made a stoopid global change or have edited the
meaning out of some text, I am glad to have the .backup.



Its good to know that we are each unique!



- Carol


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Frame 8 - unicode support

[obair81]

Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now support 
languages like Persian and Dari?

Thanks.

Paul
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RE: Frame 8 - unicode support

[Dov Isaacs]

Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages
such as Hebrew, Arabic, and Farsi. You can type the
Unicode characters, but they will appear left-to-right
and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

- Dov

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 Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
 and Dari?
 
 Thanks.
 
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RE: Frame 8 - unicode support

[obair81]

Thanks to all who answered this question.

Sorry, I missed the post some weeks ago on this issue.

Paul

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 If those are right-to-left languages, the answer is no.
 As Dov indicated some weeks ago, FM8 is still left-to-right only.
 
 
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 Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now 
 support languages like Persian and Dari?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: deleting backup files

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:26 -0700 24/7/07, B Hechter wrote:

I have not yet found any selective backup synchronization software that meets 
my needs, but, hey, maybe it's out there.

Retrospect?

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RE: Frame 8 - unicode support

[Peter Courlis]

Duh?, Sorry, meant right to left   

-pc

Peter Courlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello

I am sure that this question has been kneaded 100 times, on this list, 
but I've missed it...

Is there a S/W application or DTP S/W that is used for 
Arabic, Farsi (left to right) languages in popular use, today?

thanks

peter

Dov Isaacs  wrote: Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages
such as Hebrew, Arabic, and Farsi. You can type the
Unicode characters, but they will appear left-to-right
and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

 - Dov

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 Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
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 Thanks.
 
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RE: Frame 8 - unicode support

[Ann Zdunczyk]

There is a CS2 Suite ME. It has InDesign ME, Illustrator ME, Photoshop ME
and Acrobat. I understand that the new CS3 version (if I am correct) is also
going to have a Design Version that contains Dreamweaver ME and one other
product.

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Subject: RE: Frame 8 - unicode support

Yes, Microsoft Word (Windows only) provides this support.
InDesign ME offers this support (both platforms); maybe future versions of
InDesign might also natively support right-to-left.

 

- Dov

 



From: Peter Courlis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:42 AM
To: Dov Isaacs; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers list
Subject: RE: Frame 8 - unicode support

 

Hello

I am sure that this question has been kneaded 100 times, on this list,

but I've missed it...

Is there a S/W application or DTP S/W that is used for Arabic, Farsi (left
to right) languages in popular use, today?

thanks

peter

Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages such as Hebrew, Arabic,
and Farsi. You can type the Unicode characters, but they will appear
left-to-right and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

- Dov

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 Subject: Frame 8 - unicode support
 
 Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
 and Dari?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: FrameMaker to HTML

[John Posada]

How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you 
 give me an outline of the steps that I should follow, or point me 
 at some written instruction?

You have two options and both involve buying/learning some software. Before you 
say but how 'bout free!, remember, you've tried it and you didn't like it.

- ePublisher from Quadralay (gui and expensive, http://www.quadralay.com/)
- Mif2Go from Omsys (no gui, INI driven, mucho power, less expensive, 
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/mif2go_main.htm)
 
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Special Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Dennis Davideit]

I am new to this list (I work at Symantec). Am looking
for assistance with the following problem (on Frame
7.1, Windows XP):

A couple week ago, my Marker dialog box suddenly
disappeared. That is, when I click Special  Marker,
the Marker dialog box does not appear.

The other dialogs in the Special menu display
correctly (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc).
 
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling FrameMaker,
but the problem persists.

Would be very thankful of any help or suggestions!

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Re: Pagination changes

[Fred Ridder]

Doug,

You really don't want to set that folloiwing file to start on a Left
page because then you'll have blank page issues again if the
3-page chapter expands or contracts to an even number of
pages (and therefore ends on a left page).

What you really want is Next Available, which is only an option
when you're setting the pagination in the book window. (The
individual file pagination settings do not include this option
because there is no such thing as a preceding file when the
context is an individual file outside of a book.)

-Fred



From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lester C. Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Framers (E-mail) framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Pagination changes
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:45:09 -0500

On 7/25/07, Lester C. Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'll wager that the next file/chapter after this 3-page one is also set
to start on a right page.  The starting page takes precedence over the
prior file's ending page - Frame will add a blank page to make the page
count even so the second file can start on a right-hand page.


You guessed right, Lester.  I had neglected to set the 2nd file to
start on a Left page, despite having planned for this in my mind.  I
didn't realize that a subsequent chapter in a book could have a
retroactive effect upon a preceeding chapter.  That is, as you said,
the first page setting of a chapter overrides the final page setting
of the preceeding chapter if the two are in conflict.

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: Pagination changes

[Doug]

On 7/25/07, Lester C. Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'll wager that the next file/chapter after this 3-page one is also set
to start on a right page.  The starting page takes precedence over the
prior file's ending page - Frame will add a blank page to make the page
count even so the second file can start on a right-hand page.


You guessed right, Lester.  I had neglected to set the 2nd file to
start on a Left page, despite having planned for this in my mind.  I
didn't realize that a subsequent chapter in a book could have a
retroactive effect upon a preceeding chapter.  That is, as you said,
the first page setting of a chapter overrides the final page setting
of the preceeding chapter if the two are in conflict.

Thanks,

Doug
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RE: FrameMaker to HTML

[Charles Beck]

Hi Richard,

The only two reasonable ways I know to accomplish this are with the use of 
third-party tools: 
*   Mif2Go by Omni Systems (http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm) - Less 
expensive but more challenging to master.
*   WebWorks ePublisher by Quadralay (http://www.quadralay.com/) - More 
expensive but-you guessed it-a bit easier to learn and use.

HTH,
Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


 

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Subject: FrameMaker to HTML

I am running FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP. Normally, I supply PDFs of 
manuals (made from FrameMaker books).

I've got a request to supply a manual in HTML format. I've never looked at HTML 
before, so I am clueless.

In FrameMaker 6.0p405, saving the book at HTML results in quite a mess.

Saving the Acrobat Professional 7.0.9 PDF as HTML results in a similar mess.

How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you give me an outline of 
the steps that I should follow, or point me at some written instruction?

Thanks for you help,
Richard


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Re: FrameMaker to HTML

[Art Campbell]

I'd second Charle's and John's tool analysis, but come more heavily on
the MIF2Go side because support is MUCH better. And for what you want,
I think it'd be easier to generate what you need.

Art

On 7/25/07, Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Richard,

The only two reasonable ways I know to accomplish this are with the use of 
third-party tools:
*   Mif2Go by Omni Systems (http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm) - Less 
expensive but more challenging to master.
*   WebWorks ePublisher by Quadralay (http://www.quadralay.com/) - More 
expensive but-you guessed it-a bit easier to learn and use.

HTH,
Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Subject: FrameMaker to HTML

I am running FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP. Normally, I supply PDFs of 
manuals (made from FrameMaker books).

I've got a request to supply a manual in HTML format. I've never looked at HTML 
before, so I am clueless.

In FrameMaker 6.0p405, saving the book at HTML results in quite a mess.

Saving the Acrobat Professional 7.0.9 PDF as HTML results in a similar mess.

How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you give me an outline of 
the steps that I should follow, or point me at some written instruction?

Thanks for you help,
Richard


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RE: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Combs, Richard]

Dennis Davideit wrote:
 
 A couple week ago, my Marker dialog box suddenly 
 disappeared. That is, when I click Special  Marker, the 
 Marker dialog box does not appear.
 
 The other dialogs in the Special menu display correctly 
 (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc).

You probably inadvertently moved it off-screen. Or maybe changed your
display resolution to the same effect. To fix it, open maker.ini in a
text editor. In the [DialogLayout] section, there is a line like this:

Markers=997, 400 

Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They specify the location
on screen of the upper left corner of the dialog. I don't recall if it's
horizontal, then vertical, or the other way around. Change them to
something reasonable, like:

Markers=200, 200

Save and close maker.ini, and start (or restart) FM. That should fix it.


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FrameMaker to HTML

[rinch]

I am running FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP. Normally, I supply PDFs of 
manuals (made from FrameMaker books).

I've got a request to supply a manual in HTML format. I've never looked at 
HTML before, so I am clueless.

In FrameMaker 6.0p405, saving the book at HTML results in quite a mess.

Saving the Acrobat Professional 7.0.9 PDF as HTML results in a similar 
mess.

How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you give me an outline 
of the steps that I should follow, or point me at some written 
instruction?

Thanks for you help,
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Pagination changes

[Doug]

I have a three page chapter in a book.  It's set to Double-Sided and
to start on a Right page.  Lastly, I have it set to Delete Empty
Pages.  However, when I update the book, the last setting always
changes to Make Page Count Even.  Knowing FrameMaker this is probably
WAD, but I need the following chapter to start on a Left page, as page
number 4 of the  three page preceeding chapter.  Any ideas?

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Add call to animation in Fm 7.2 document

[Shlomo Perets]

Stephen,

You wrote:

>Our Tech Support staff has made several animations in Adobe Captivate as 
>the main tool to teach our users certain functionalities. Captivate 
>generates output in .SWF + .HTML or .EXE (FlashPlayer wrapped with the 
>.SWF file) format) but not .AVI or other common formats.
>
>I will make a prodecural document in FM to give the user the work context 
>and convert it to PDF. I cannot add the animations to the FM file because 
>File > Import > Object does not accept those formats. And the hypertext 
>command that can launch an applicatio in FrameMaker does not work once PDFed.
>
>I know I can simply add buttons to the FM document and convert to PDF, and 
>then link the button areas to the .SWF, .HTML, or > EXE files. But each 
>time I redo the PDF I will lose the links made to the external files. Our 
>goal is to send our document out to specific users and have them test it - 
>there will be several iterations of this tool and many new PDF documents 
>generated. i will go lonk crazy!
>
>Do you  have any suggestions? is there a better way to do this?


In FrameMaker/Windows, you can establish a link to a file (carried over as 
a link in a PDF file), by using the "message openfile filename" hypertext 
marker (no quotes, filename replaced with the specific file to be launched 
by the PDF link).

The linked file may of any file type that can be handled in the end-user 
system, and it is displayed using the associated application (after a 
standard security message is displayed).

The press release for FrameMaker 8.0 indicates specific support for SWF -- 
we'll have to wait for the released product to see how this is implemented.

In addition: with the Multimedia Assistant, FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers add-on, multimedia files can be linked/embedded in PDFs, with 
additional controls over how the media is played (floating window or in 
document), controller shown/hidden, media title, web-based media and more.
[ a sample pdf is available at 
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/Guide.pdf -- with 
links/bookmarks displaying web-based media files in a floating window ]


Shlomo Perets

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FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
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FM-to-PDF Assistants: Navigation, Form, Presentation, Multimedia & 3D

deleting backup files

[Shmuel Wolfson]

While we are on the subject of external drives, I recommend the laptop 
size external drives. They require a low enough amount of power that 
they can be powered by the USB itself. No need for a power cord. I find 
that to be very convenient. (Check the specs to make sure that they 
don't require external power.)

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



B Hechter wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for suggestions on post-production deletion of
> unnecessary backup files. I overlooked the obvious Windows command line
> interface, so thanks for the reality check.
>
> My 2c on backups:
> - Flash USB is temporary storage only, don't depend on it for backup
> - Invest in a large capacity external drive and dump EVERYTHING to it 
> on a
> regularly scheduled basis. I have not yet found any selective backup
> synchronization software that meets my needs, but, hey, maybe it's out
> there.
>
> Ben
>

Frame 8 - unicode support

[obai...@comcast.net]

Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now support 
languages like Persian and Dari?

Thanks.

Paul

Frame 8 - unicode support

[Dov Isaacs]

Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages
such as Hebrew, Arabic, and Farsi. You can type the
Unicode characters, but they will appear left-to-right
and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

- Dov

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> Subject: Frame 8 - unicode support
> 
> Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
> and Dari?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Frame 8 - unicode support

[obai...@comcast.net]

Thanks to all who answered this question.

Sorry, I missed the post some weeks ago on this issue.

Paul

 -- Original message --
From: "Fred Ridder" 
> If those are right-to-left languages, the answer is "no".
> As Dov indicated some weeks ago, FM8 is still left-to-right only.
> 
> 
> >From: obair81 at comcast.net
> >To: framers at frameusers.com (framers list)
> >Subject: Frame 8 - unicode support
> >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:18:47 +
> >
> >Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now 
> >support languages like Persian and Dari?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
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deleting backup files

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:26 -0700 24/7/07, B Hechter wrote:

>I have not yet found any selective backup synchronization software that meets 
>my needs, but, hey, maybe it's out there.

Retrospect?

-- 
Steve

Frame 8 - unicode support

[Peter Courlis]

Hello

I am sure that this question has been "kneaded" 100 times, on this list, 
but I've missed it...

Is there a S/W application or DTP S/W that is used for 
Arabic, Farsi (left to right) languages in popular use, today?

thanks

peter

Dov Isaacs  wrote: Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages
such as Hebrew, Arabic, and Farsi. You can type the
Unicode characters, but they will appear left-to-right
and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

 - Dov

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> Subject: Frame 8 - unicode support
> 
> Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
> and Dari?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Paul
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Frame 8 - unicode support

[Peter Courlis]

Duh?, Sorry, meant "right to left"   

-pc

Peter Courlis  wrote: Hello

I am sure that this question has been "kneaded" 100 times, on this list, 
but I've missed it...

Is there a S/W application or DTP S/W that is used for 
Arabic, Farsi (left to right) languages in popular use, today?

thanks

peter

Dov Isaacs  wrote: Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages
such as Hebrew, Arabic, and Farsi. You can type the
Unicode characters, but they will appear left-to-right
and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

 - Dov

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> To: framers list
> Subject: Frame 8 - unicode support
> 
> Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
> and Dari?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Paul
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Frame 8 - unicode support

[Dov Isaacs]

Yes, Microsoft Word (Windows only) provides this support.
InDesign ME offers this support (both platforms); maybe future
versions of InDesign might also natively support right-to-left.



- Dov





From: Peter Courlis [mailto:neat_g...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:42 AM
To: Dov Isaacs; obair81 at comcast.net; framers list
Subject: RE: Frame 8 - unicode support



Hello

I am sure that this question has been "kneaded" 100 times, on this list,

but I've missed it...

Is there a S/W application or DTP S/W that is used for 
Arabic, Farsi (left to right) languages in popular use, today?

thanks

peter

Dov Isaacs  wrote:

Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages
such as Hebrew, Arabic, and Farsi. You can type the
Unicode characters, but they will appear left-to-right
and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-
> bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
obair81 at comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:19 AM
> To: framers list
> Subject: Frame 8 - unicode support
> 
> Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
> and Dari?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Paul

Frame 8 - unicode support

[Ann Zdunczyk]

There is a CS2 Suite ME. It has InDesign ME, Illustrator ME, Photoshop ME
and Acrobat. I understand that the new CS3 version (if I am correct) is also
going to have a Design Version that contains Dreamweaver ME and one other
product.

Hope this helps.
Z 


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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+azdunczyk=triad.rr@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+azdunczyk=triad.rr.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:59 PM
To: Peter Courlis; obair81 at comcast.net; framers list
Subject: RE: Frame 8 - unicode support

Yes, Microsoft Word (Windows only) provides this support.
InDesign ME offers this support (both platforms); maybe future versions of
InDesign might also natively support right-to-left.



- Dov





From: Peter Courlis [mailto:neat_g...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:42 AM
To: Dov Isaacs; obair81 at comcast.net; framers list
Subject: RE: Frame 8 - unicode support



Hello

I am sure that this question has been "kneaded" 100 times, on this list,

but I've missed it...

Is there a S/W application or DTP S/W that is used for Arabic, Farsi (left
to right) languages in popular use, today?

thanks

peter

Dov Isaacs  wrote:

Absolutely NOT!

FrameMaker does NOT support right-to-left languages such as Hebrew, Arabic,
and Farsi. You can type the Unicode characters, but they will appear
left-to-right and the various language rules (context sensitive rules,
ligatures, etc.) are not obeyed.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-
> bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
obair81 at comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:19 AM
> To: framers list
> Subject: Frame 8 - unicode support
> 
> Does anyone know, does Frame 8's unicode support mean that it will now
support languages like Persian
> and Dari?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Paul

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Pagination changes

[Doug]

I have a three page chapter in a book.  It's set to Double-Sided and
to start on a Right page.  Lastly, I have it set to Delete Empty
Pages.  However, when I update the book, the last setting always
changes to Make Page Count Even.  Knowing FrameMaker this is probably
WAD, but I need the following chapter to start on a Left page, as page
number 4 of the  three page preceeding chapter.  Any ideas?

--Doug

Pagination changes

[Fred Ridder]

Two things:

1) You need to set the pagination in the book file rather than in the
chapter files.

2) You need to set the pagination for the *following* chapter to
start on "Next Available" (a choice that is only available from the book
window) as well as setting the 3-page chapter to delete unused pages.




>From: Doug 
>To: "Framers (E-mail)" 
>Subject: Pagination changes
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:24:45 -0500
>
>I have a three page chapter in a book.  It's set to Double-Sided and
>to start on a Right page.  Lastly, I have it set to Delete Empty
>Pages.  However, when I update the book, the last setting always
>changes to Make Page Count Even.  Knowing FrameMaker this is probably
>WAD, but I need the following chapter to start on a Left page, as page
>number 4 of the  three page preceeding chapter.  Any ideas?
>
>--Doug
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Pagination changes

[Lester C. Smalley]

I'll wager that the next file/chapter after this 3-page one is also set 
to start on a right page.  The starting page takes precedence over the 
prior file's ending page - Frame will add a blank page to make the page 
count even so the second file can start on a right-hand page.

Set the second file to start on the next available side from the BOOK 
window, and also to continue page numbering from the previous file, and 
then update the book again. 

If you're compulsive, you can set the properties in the individual file 
as well, but the book-level settings take priority over an individual 
file's settings and if they're different, you will get a warning notice.

On Wednesday, July 25, 2007 04:25 PM, Doug wrote

| I have a three page chapter in a book.  It's set to Double-Sided
| and to start on a Right page.  Lastly, I have it set to Delete
| Empty Pages.  However, when I update the book, the last setting
| always changes to Make Page Count Even.  Knowing FrameMaker this
| is probably WAD, but I need the following chapter to start on a
| Left page, as page number 4 of the three page preceding chapter.
| Any ideas?
| 
| --Doug

WAD?  working as designed I presume.

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FrameMaker to HTML

[ri...@inficon.com]

I am running FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP. Normally, I supply PDFs of 
manuals (made from FrameMaker books).

I've got a request to supply a manual in HTML format. I've never looked at 
HTML before, so I am clueless.

In FrameMaker 6.0p405, saving the book at HTML results in quite a mess.

Saving the Acrobat Professional 7.0.9 PDF as HTML results in a similar 
mess.

How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you give me an outline 
of the steps that I should follow, or point me at some written 
instruction?

Thanks for you help,
Richard

Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Dennis Davideit]

I am new to this list (I work at Symantec). Am looking
for assistance with the following problem (on Frame
7.1, Windows XP):

A couple week ago, my "Marker" dialog box suddenly
disappeared. That is, when I click Special > Marker,
the Marker dialog box does not appear.

The other dialogs in the Special menu display
correctly (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc).

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling FrameMaker,
but the problem persists.

Would be very thankful of any help or suggestions!

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FrameMaker to HTML

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>How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you 
> give me an outline of the steps that I should follow, or point me 
> at some written instruction?

You have two options and both involve buying/learning some software. Before you 
say "but how 'bout free!", remember, you've tried it and you didn't like it.

- ePublisher from Quadralay (gui and expensive, http://www.quadralay.com/)
- Mif2Go from Omsys (no gui, INI driven, mucho power, less expensive, 
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Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Combs, Richard]

Dennis Davideit wrote:

> A couple week ago, my "Marker" dialog box suddenly 
> disappeared. That is, when I click Special > Marker, the 
> Marker dialog box does not appear.
> 
> The other dialogs in the Special menu display correctly 
> (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc).

You probably inadvertently moved it off-screen. Or maybe changed your
display resolution to the same effect. To fix it, open maker.ini in a
text editor. In the [DialogLayout] section, there is a line like this:

Markers=997, 400 

Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They specify the location
on screen of the upper left corner of the dialog. I don't recall if it's
horizontal, then vertical, or the other way around. Change them to
something reasonable, like:

Markers=200, 200

Save and close maker.ini, and start (or restart) FM. That should fix it.


HTH!
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Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Combs, Richard]

D'oh! Momentary lapse of reason:

> Markers=997, 400 
> 
> Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They specify 
> the location on screen of the upper left corner of the 
> dialog. I don't recall if it's horizontal, then vertical, or 
> the other way around. 

It's horizontal first. If it weren't, that 997 would push part of the
dialog off the bottom of my 1280x1024 display. :-)

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Pagination changes

[Doug]

On 7/25/07, Lester C. Smalley  wrote:
> I'll wager that the next file/chapter after this 3-page one is also set
> to start on a right page.  The starting page takes precedence over the
> prior file's ending page - Frame will add a blank page to make the page
> count even so the second file can start on a right-hand page.

You guessed right, Lester.  I had neglected to set the 2nd file to
start on a Left page, despite having planned for this in my mind.  I
didn't realize that a subsequent chapter in a book could have a
"retroactive" effect upon a preceeding chapter.  That is, as you said,
the first page setting of a chapter overrides the final page setting
of the preceeding chapter if the two are in conflict.

Thanks,

Doug

Pagination changes

[Fred Ridder]

Doug,

You really don't want to set that folloiwing file to start on a Left
page because then you'll have blank page issues again if the
3-page chapter expands or contracts to an even number of
pages (and therefore ends on a left page).

What you really want is "Next Available", which is only an option
when you're setting the pagination in the book window. (The
individual file pagination settings do not include this option
because there is no such thing as a preceding file when the
context is an individual file outside of a book.)

-Fred


>From: Doug 
>To: "Lester C. Smalley" 
>CC: "Framers (E-mail)" 
>Subject: Re: Pagination changes
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:45:09 -0500
>
>On 7/25/07, Lester C. Smalley  wrote:
>>I'll wager that the next file/chapter after this 3-page one is also set
>>to start on a right page.  The starting page takes precedence over the
>>prior file's ending page - Frame will add a blank page to make the page
>>count even so the second file can start on a right-hand page.
>
>You guessed right, Lester.  I had neglected to set the 2nd file to
>start on a Left page, despite having planned for this in my mind.  I
>didn't realize that a subsequent chapter in a book could have a
>"retroactive" effect upon a preceeding chapter.  That is, as you said,
>the first page setting of a chapter overrides the final page setting
>of the preceeding chapter if the two are in conflict.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Doug
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FrameMaker to HTML

[Charles Beck]

Hi Richard,

The only two reasonable ways I know to accomplish this are with the use of 
third-party tools: 
*   Mif2Go by Omni Systems (http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm) - Less 
expensive but more challenging to master.
*   WebWorks ePublisher by Quadralay (http://www.quadralay.com/) - More 
expensive but-you guessed it-a bit easier to learn and use.

HTH,
Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com 




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Subject: FrameMaker to HTML

I am running FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP. Normally, I supply PDFs of 
manuals (made from FrameMaker books).

I've got a request to supply a manual in HTML format. I've never looked at HTML 
before, so I am clueless.

In FrameMaker 6.0p405, saving the book at HTML results in quite a mess.

Saving the Acrobat Professional 7.0.9 PDF as HTML results in a similar mess.

How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you give me an outline of 
the steps that I should follow, or point me at some written instruction?

Thanks for you help,
Richard


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FrameMaker to HTML

[Art Campbell]

I'd second Charle's and John's tool analysis, but come more heavily on
the MIF2Go side because support is MUCH better. And for what you want,
I think it'd be easier to generate what you need.

Art

On 7/25/07, Charles Beck  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> The only two reasonable ways I know to accomplish this are with the use of 
> third-party tools:
> *   Mif2Go by Omni Systems (http://www.omsys.com/dcl/omni.htm) - Less 
> expensive but more challenging to master.
> *   WebWorks ePublisher by Quadralay (http://www.quadralay.com/) - More 
> expensive but-you guessed it-a bit easier to learn and use.
>
> HTH,
> Chuck Beck
>
> Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | Charles.Beck at 
> infor.com
>
>
>
>
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> Behalf Of rinch at Inficon.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:11 PM
> To: framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: FrameMaker to HTML
>
> I am running FrameMaker 6.0p405 on Windows XP. Normally, I supply PDFs of 
> manuals (made from FrameMaker books).
>
> I've got a request to supply a manual in HTML format. I've never looked at 
> HTML before, so I am clueless.
>
> In FrameMaker 6.0p405, saving the book at HTML results in quite a mess.
>
> Saving the Acrobat Professional 7.0.9 PDF as HTML results in a similar mess.
>
> How do I convert my FrameMaker files into HTML? Can you give me an outline of 
> the steps that I should follow, or point me at some written instruction?
>
> Thanks for you help,
> Richard
>
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Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared

[Dennis Davideit]

Richard,

Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some
other problem, because the change made no difference:
the Marker dialog box still does not appear.

For what it's worth, here are the values in my
DialogLayout section of maker.ini:

[DialogLayout]
;--Dialog & Window layout --
MakerWin=3, -1, -1, -1, -1, 0, 0, 640, 400
PCatalog=500, 40, 130, 180
CCatalog=500, 220, 130, 180
Tools=600, 20
Equation=0, 20
Spell=0, 20
PFormat=7, 43
CFormat=0, 20
Search=0, 20
Table=7, 63
Ruling=0, 20
Markers=200, 200
Hypertext=0, 20
CondText=0, 20
Numbering=0, 20
Help=0, 20
Thesaurus=0, 20
TemplateBrowser=0, 20
VQuickAccessBar=0, 20
ECatalog=500, 50, 130, 350

dennis



--- "Combs, Richard" 
wrote:

> Dennis Davideit wrote:
>  
> > A couple week ago, my "Marker" dialog box suddenly
> 
> > disappeared. That is, when I click Special >
> Marker, the 
> > Marker dialog box does not appear.
> > 
> > The other dialogs in the Special menu display
> correctly 
> > (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc).
> 
> You probably inadvertently moved it off-screen. Or
> maybe changed your
> display resolution to the same effect. To fix it,
> open maker.ini in a
> text editor. In the [DialogLayout] section, there is
> a line like this:
> 
> Markers=997, 400 
> 
> Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They
> specify the location
> on screen of the upper left corner of the dialog. I
> don't recall if it's
> horizontal, then vertical, or the other way around.
> Change them to
> something reasonable, like:
> 
> Markers=200, 200
> 
> Save and close maker.ini, and start (or restart) FM.
> That should fix it.
> 
> 
> HTH!
> Richard
> 
> 
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