Problem with the links in pdf

[Sindhu tw]

Hi,

When i convert a fm file to pdf  some links in the pdf file are not opening
sometimes. I have taken all the steps and even imported the formats from the
other files and tried with that, its working fine for Generated files but I
am facing this problem for the chapter files.

Is this  the problem with framemaker and acrobatdo i need to reinstall
this. We are using FrameMaker 7.1 and Acrobat Distiller 5 versions.

Why is the file crashed often ? Any particular reason..

Please let me know the solution.



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Re: Problem with the links in pdf

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Sindu,

In the PDF Setup dialog box, click the Links tab. Make sure the checkbox is 
checked and click Set. Make a new PDF and see if this solves the problem.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hi,

When i convert a fm file to pdf  some links in the pdf file are not opening
sometimes. I have taken all the steps and even imported the formats from the
other files and tried with that, its working fine for Generated files but I
am facing this problem for the chapter files.

Is this  the problem with framemaker and acrobatdo i need to reinstall
this. We are using FrameMaker 7.1 and Acrobat Distiller 5 versions.

Why is the file crashed often ? Any particular reason..

Please let me know the solution.



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Regards,
Sindu
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Blank left page and master pages

[Anne Weiner]

Not long ago someone posted a message about how to use Apply Master Pages
and the default Left master page to automatically apply a customized master
page to a final blank left page. I thought the technique was terribly
elegant and managed to create such a master page scheme. 
 
Now I have a question and, of course, cannot find the original message.
 
My question is this: The technique described in the original message works
beautifully, except when a table spans multiple pages. To the Apply Master
Pages feature the intervening pages between the beginning and the end of
the table look blank! If one of them is a left page, it applies the default
Left master page. Is the a way around this?
 
Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide including an alternative
method for automatically handling a final blank left page in a double-sided
format (Make Page Count Even).
 
Anne Weiner
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mif2go

[obair81]

I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of a frame doc, but I am 
missing some details.

I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere where one can pick a 
frame file that acts as a template for the frame to word conversion. I cannot 
find where this option is.

Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should put gif=bmp and 
jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs referenced in my frame doc, because 
BMPs turn out better in the conversion.

Can anyone comment on these questions?

Thanks.

best,
Paul
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Re: mif2go

[Art Campbell]

Well,
Jeremy may respond too because he's on the list, but here's my take:
* When you set up your project, you can enter the name of a FM
template file to apply to the source files before conversion if you
want to change the appearance of the end document. This path and file
name can also be entered or changed in the .ini file.
* I'm not a great fan of .bmps myself, but if you're going to rtf, it
may be worth trying.
If it doesn't look right in Word, just import the originals.

Art

On 4/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of a frame doc, but I am 
 missing some details.

 I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere where one can pick a 
 frame file that acts as a template for the frame to word conversion. I cannot 
 find where this option is.

 Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should put gif=bmp and 
 jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs referenced in my frame doc, because 
 BMPs turn out better in the conversion.

 Can anyone comment on these questions?

 Thanks.



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Re: mif2go

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:01:44 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of 
a frame doc, 

Yes, it can.

but I am missing some details.

I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere 
where one can pick a frame file that acts as a template 
for the frame to word conversion. I cannot find where 
this option is.

It's the entire right-hand half of the Set up dialog...
you select the file at the top, and check boxes for the
properties you want to import from it.  The import is
done in a way that does *not* affect the original .fm 
file; only the .mif used for conversion is modified.
For Word output, you mostly need to adjust master pages,
as detailed in the User's Guide, par. 2.3, Importing 
formats from a conversion template.

Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should 
put gif=bmp and jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs 
referenced in my frame doc, because BMPs turn out better 
in the conversion.

If you are going to Word, which we presume is the case
here, Mif2Go can embed .bmps into .wmfs and put them
in Word scaled exactly as in FrameMaker.  But for other
formats, we have to let Word embed them itself, in which
case we cannot specify scaling.  That's what better
means here, as explained in par. 5.16.1, Understanding 
graphics requirements for Word.  The setting you mention
is described in par. 5.16.2.1, Converting referenced 
graphics before Mif2Go (best quality), and other places.

Can anyone comment on these questions?

The 800+-page User's Guide is your friend... If you
don't care for the WinHelp version that ships with the
distribution, take your choice of others from:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
All are made with Mif2Go; pick from: HTML Help, HTML,
XHTML, JavaHelp, Oracle Help for Java, PDF, our own
cross-platform OmniHelp (my personal favorite), Word
RTF, and Frame 7.0 itself (with all .ini files, to
use as examples).

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: mif2go

[obair81]

Thanks.

How do you see the Set up print rtf project dialog after the first setup?

It seems to show once, and then disappear.

I have looked through the manual enough to get my frame to go to word, but the 
word version is still 30 percent bigger than the frame, so it does not look 
like the original.

Maybe one problem is a View in Frame (my custom draft mark) that, even when 
hidden in Frame, shows in Word.  That puts itself in the middle of each page. 
Maybe that is what is throwing off the page size.  I cannot see why this View, 
hidden in Frame, shows in Word.

Paul


 -- Original message --
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:01:44 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of 
 a frame doc, 
 
 Yes, it can.
 
 but I am missing some details.
 
 I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere 
 where one can pick a frame file that acts as a template 
 for the frame to word conversion. I cannot find where 
 this option is.
 
 It's the entire right-hand half of the Set up dialog...
 you select the file at the top, and check boxes for the
 properties you want to import from it.  The import is
 done in a way that does *not* affect the original .fm 
 file; only the .mif used for conversion is modified.
 For Word output, you mostly need to adjust master pages,
 as detailed in the User's Guide, par. 2.3, Importing 
 formats from a conversion template.
 
 Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should 
 put gif=bmp and jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs 
 referenced in my frame doc, because BMPs turn out better 
 in the conversion.
 
 If you are going to Word, which we presume is the case
 here, Mif2Go can embed .bmps into .wmfs and put them
 in Word scaled exactly as in FrameMaker.  But for other
 formats, we have to let Word embed them itself, in which
 case we cannot specify scaling.  That's what better
 means here, as explained in par. 5.16.1, Understanding 
 graphics requirements for Word.  The setting you mention
 is described in par. 5.16.2.1, Converting referenced 
 graphics before Mif2Go (best quality), and other places.
 
 Can anyone comment on these questions?
 
 The 800+-page User's Guide is your friend... If you
 don't care for the WinHelp version that ships with the
 distribution, take your choice of others from:
   http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
 All are made with Mif2Go; pick from: HTML Help, HTML,
 XHTML, JavaHelp, Oracle Help for Java, PDF, our own
 cross-platform OmniHelp (my personal favorite), Word
 RTF, and Frame 7.0 itself (with all .ini files, to
 use as examples).
 
 HTH!
 
 -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/


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Re: mif2go

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:13:15 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Thanks.

Quite welcome!

How do you see the Set up print rtf project 
dialog after the first setup?
It seems to show once, and then disappear.

Right, if there is already a mif2rtf.ini, it doesn't
overwrite it, as that could zap settings you already
made.  However, for RTF, if you do Set up again, you
get the Conversion Designer, a multipanel GUI for
changing many settings.  Personally, I prefer to edit
the mif2rtf.ini myself, in a text editor like Wordpad.
This is all covered in par. 3.3, Setting up a Mif2Go 
project.

I have looked through the manual enough to get my 
frame to go to word, but the word version is still 
30 percent bigger than the frame, so it does not 
look like the original.

If the page size is different, that means there's
something unusual about your Master Pages in Frame.
We obtain the page size and margins from those.
For Word, it's often necessary to use simpler master
pages imported from a conversion template, because
some common Frame usages (like a graphic line in a 
side margin) cause problems for Word, as described
in par. 5.6.7.2, Adjusting headers and footers for 
conversion.

Maybe one problem is a View in Frame (my custom draft 
mark) that, even when hidden in Frame, shows in Word.  
That puts itself in the middle of each page. Maybe that 
is what is throwing off the page size.  I cannot see 
why this View, hidden in Frame, shows in Word.

Nor can I.  We respect all of Frames conditional text
settings.  If you cannot determine what the problem
is after actually reading the User's Guide g, you
can send us a one-page test case as described in
Appendix D, with all the files specified there, and
we'll look into it.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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Index Formatting Question

[Tammy . VanBoening]

I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only 
two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, 
The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly 
indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented 
beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, 
however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels 
breaks across a line:

Level 1   1-1
 Level 22-
 1
Level 3   3-
1


Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of 
manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a 
plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something 
like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option 
to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and 
I just can't go willy-nilly changing it.

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
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Re: Index Formatting Question

[Sarah O'Keefe]

Hi Tammy,

Change the separator to use a nonbreaking hyphen instead of a regular
hyphen. This is in your IX reference page. You'll find something like this:

$chapnum-$pagenum

in the IndexIX line.

Change the hyphen to a nonbreaking hyphen.

Regards,

Sarah

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only 
 two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, 
 The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly 
 indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented 
 beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, 
 however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels 
 breaks across a line:
 
 Level 1   1-1
  Level 22-
  1
 Level 3   3-
 1
 
 
 Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of 
 manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a 
 plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something 
 like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option 
 to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and 
 I just can't go willy-nilly changing it.
 
 TIA,
 
 TVB
 
 Tammy Van Boening
 Senior Technical Writer
 Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
 303-328-4420
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Re: Intrenal Error

[rebecca officer]

Hi Ranvijay

I don't know if anyone's replied to you off list, but I can't see any replies 
to the list so I thought I would reply. 

You need to give us different information. The image you attached got dropped 
by the list - the list won't accept any attachments. Also, FM gives internal 
errors for many things and they aren't much help to anyone but Adobe engineers. 
Adobe engineers don't read this list. Try searching Adobe's knowledgebase for 
your error number at:
http://www.adobe.com/support/main.html 

If that doesn't help, try emailing the list again, describing what you're doing 
when it crashes, and anything that's unusual about that particular file ... 
other than the crash :-(

Cheers, Rebecca

 Ranvijay Chandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/04/06 17:39:46 
Hi All,

This is a critical error that I am getting when I save one particular
framemaker file in my book.

It does not give this error for other framemaker files.

Please see the attached image for details about the error.

Please provide a solution or workaround to this problem.

Thanks and regards,

Ranvijay Chandel

Information Developer

Yantra Solutions Pvt. Ltd.

Bangalore (India)

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RE: Technical Writing Suite From Adobe

[hedley . finger]

Bill:

 sell into the Academic publishing market

And into the commercial publishing non-fiction market!  Then publishers 
can stop using dumb Cindex and Sky Index to produce indexes that don't 
embed in the source text and have to be done all over again when they (a) 
publish the illustrated edition, (b) publish the paperback edition, (c) 
produce a revised edition with new matter, (d) license the publishing or 
translation rights, or (e) do anything that changes the page breaks and 
screws the index locator numbers.  Using IXgen to edit or translate the 
index while preserving all index entries no matter how pages break has got 
to be a plus.

Trouble is, the outsourcing and cottage-industry nature of publishing 
means all those freelance copy-editors, typographers (book designers), and 
indexers would all have to purchase FrameMaker, whereas EVERYBODY has 
Quark Express, InDesign, and Word.

Sob!

Hedley
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MYOB Australia http://myob.com/au
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12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
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Missing Zapf Dingbats - can't reformat?

[Rosemary Tinsley]

Hello,

Does anyone know how to override missing fonts? 

Here is my issue: When opening a file, FM gives me the missing font/will be 
reformatted message. I click OK. The document is automatically reformatted. 

I save and close. When I open the doc again, I get the missing font message. 
The formats were not saved afterall. 

If anyone knows why this is, and how I can work around it, I'd appreciate your 
help. 

Also, has anyone out there had to buy Adobe Type in order to use fonts FM 
defaults to?

Thanks! 

Rosemary Tinsley, Technical Writer
Myrio - Siemens
425-368-4525

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Intrenal Error

[Ranvijay Chandel]

Hi All,

This is a critical error that I am getting when I save one particular
framemaker file in my book.

It does not give this error for other framemaker files.

Please see the attached image for details about the error.

Please provide a solution or workaround to this problem.

Thanks and regards,

Ranvijay Chandel

Information Developer

Yantra Solutions Pvt. Ltd.

Bangalore (India)

Problem with the links in pdf

[Sindhu tw]

Hi,

When i convert a fm file to pdf  some links in the pdf file are not opening
sometimes. I have taken all the steps and even imported the formats from the
other files and tried with that, its working fine for Generated files but I
am facing this problem for the chapter files.

Is this  the problem with framemaker and acrobatdo i need to reinstall
this. We are using FrameMaker 7.1 and Acrobat Distiller 5 versions.

Why is the file crashed often ? Any particular reason..

Please let me know the solution.



--
Regards,
Sindu

Problem with the links in pdf

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Sindu,

In the PDF Setup dialog box, click the Links tab. Make sure the checkbox is 
checked and click Set. Make a new PDF and see if this solves the problem.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Hi,

When i convert a fm file to pdf  some links in the pdf file are not opening
sometimes. I have taken all the steps and even imported the formats from the
other files and tried with that, its working fine for Generated files but I
am facing this problem for the chapter files.

Is this  the problem with framemaker and acrobatdo i need to reinstall
this. We are using FrameMaker 7.1 and Acrobat Distiller 5 versions.

Why is the file crashed often ? Any particular reason..

Please let me know the solution.



--
Regards,
Sindu
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A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

[Scott Abel]

Look inside my FrameMaker crystal ball. Can you see what I see? It's a bit 
foggy, but if you concentrate for just a minute, an amazing new product will 
come into focus. It's a technical writers dream come true ...

www.thecontentwrangler.com



Scott Abel
Content Management Strategist
The Content Wrangler, Inc.
3421 Crystal Lakes Court
Sarasota, FL 34235
941-359-3416
abelsp at netdirect.net
www.thecontentwrangler.com

[ANN] Planning for DITA Success: How to Deploy DITA, Step-By-Step

[Scott Abel]

The Rockley Group and Blast Radius just released part two of their two-part 
whitepaper, "Planning for DITA Success: How to Deploy DITA, Step-By-Step". Get 
your free copy today. 

Visit: http://www.rockley.com


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Creating a custom date variable

[Eli Har-Even]

This should be easy but I can't get it to work.



I need a variable that shows the month and year, for example April 2006. I
created a custom variable based on the definition of the system variable
"Current Date (long)", which is defined as <$monthname> <$daynum>, <$year>.
My new custom variable has the definition <$monthname>  <$year>. However- it
shows up as <$monthname<$year.



I could change the definition of the system variable, but I'd rather leave
it unchanged.



What am I missing?



[FrameMaker Version 6.0p405]



Thanks

Eli.

A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

[Rick Quatro]

But what would be *new* about it, except for existing products being bundled 
together? This may be beneficial for someone just starting out, but for 
those of us that already have a couple of the products, buying the bundle 
will likely be more expensive than buying the missing pieces. And bundling 
the software doesn't mean that they work in an integrated fashion like the 
Creative Suite products.

Look into your crystal ball and see if you can see a major upgrade of 
FrameMaker. Then I will be interested.

BTW, I was disappointed in the way Adobe priced the original Creative Suite. 
I was a licensed user of InDesign, Illustrator, and Acrobat, but I couldn't 
jump in at a reduced price because I didn't have the full version of 
Photoshop.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Look inside my FrameMaker crystal ball. Can you see what I see? It's a bit 
> foggy, but if you concentrate for just a minute, an amazing new product 
> will come into focus. It's a technical writers dream come true ...
>
> www.thecontentwrangler.com
>
> Scott Abel
> Content Management Strategist
> The Content Wrangler, Inc.
> 3421 Crystal Lakes Court
> Sarasota, FL 34235
> 941-359-3416
> abelsp at netdirect.net
> www.thecontentwrangler.com
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A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

[Bill Swallow]

A few flaws in this "vision"...

One, RoboHelp for FrameMaker was discontinued long ago and even though
the source code is now in Adobe's hands, they have a significant chunk
of it to either fix or toss and rewrite. RHFM was clunky, a resource
hog, slow as molasses, and buggy, and had very little chance of truly
getting off the ground.

I'd say Adobe is heading in the wrong direction if they are seriously
considering a FM+RH solution for tech writers. They should be focusing
on XML processing and conversion and not bother with UI tweaking
baloney. Well, that's my opinion, anyway.

So was this an Adobe announcement or some odd speculation by The
Content Wrangler? Did the Content Wrangler actually have supporting
info on this? I didn't see much real meaty content there on his site
at all. Given that, I'll treat this as bunk until I see some real
info.

--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

[Dov Isaacs]

Total and utter speculation by "The Content Wrangler"
without any announcements, leaks (credible or otherwise),
or other evidence to back it up ... 

> -Original Message-
> From: lists.frameusers.com 
>  On Behalf Of Bill Swallow
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:14 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?
> 
> A few flaws in this "vision"...
> 
> One, RoboHelp for FrameMaker was discontinued long ago and 
> even though the source code is now in Adobe's hands, they 
> have a significant chunk of it to either fix or toss and 
> rewrite. RHFM was clunky, a resource hog, slow as molasses, 
> and buggy, and had very little chance of truly getting off the ground.
> 
> I'd say Adobe is heading in the wrong direction if they are 
> seriously considering a FM+RH solution for tech writers. They 
> should be focusing on XML processing and conversion and not 
> bother with UI tweaking baloney. Well, that's my opinion, anyway.
> 
> So was this an Adobe announcement or some odd speculation by 
> The Content Wrangler? Did the Content Wrangler actually have 
> supporting info on this? I didn't see much real meaty content 
> there on his site at all. Given that, I'll treat this as bunk 
> until I see some real info.
> 
> --
> Bill Swallow

A Technical Writing Suite From Adobe?

[Bill Swallow]

That's what I thought.

GIGO.

On 4/25/06, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
> Total and utter speculation by "The Content Wrangler"
> without any announcements, leaks (credible or otherwise),
> or other evidence to back it up ...

--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

Creating a custom date variable

[Fred Ridder]

The building blocks you are trying to use can only be used in the
definitions of System Variables. User Variables only support static
values. You cannot add new System Variables, but you *can*
redefine the existing System Variables with different building
blocks to suit your needs; you just can't have the standard and
customized versions at the same time.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


>From: "Eli Har-Even" 
>To: 
>Subject: Creating a custom date variable
>Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:27:16 +0300
>
>This should be easy but I can't get it to work.
>
>
>
>I need a variable that shows the month and year, for example April 2006. I
>created a custom variable based on the definition of the system variable
>"Current Date (long)", which is defined as <$monthname> <$daynum>, <$year>.
>My new custom variable has the definition <$monthname>  <$year>. However- 
>it
>shows up as <$monthname<$year.
>
>
>
>I could change the definition of the system variable, but I'd rather leave
>it unchanged.
>
>
>
>What am I missing?
>
>
>
>[FrameMaker Version 6.0p405]
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Eli.
>
>
>
>
>
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Blank left page and master pages

[Anne Weiner]

Not long ago someone posted a message about how to use Apply Master Pages
and the default Left master page to automatically apply a customized master
page to a final blank left page. I thought the technique was terribly
elegant and managed to create such a master page scheme. 

Now I have a question and, of course, cannot find the original message.

My question is this: The technique described in the original message works
beautifully, except when a table spans multiple pages. To the "Apply Master
Pages" feature the intervening pages between the beginning and the end of
the table look blank! If one of them is a left page, it applies the default
Left master page. Is the a way around this?

Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide including an alternative
method for automatically handling a final blank left page in a double-sided
format (Make Page Count Even).

Anne Weiner

Frame Keyboard Shortcuts

[acti...@aol.com]

Hi Framers,

I seem to recall that someone on this list put together a comprehensive  list 
of Frame keyboard shortcuts. If anyone has this list, would you mind  sending 
it to me? 

Thanks,
Nancy Adams

mif2go

[obai...@comcast.net]

I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of a frame doc, but I am 
missing some details.

I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere where one can pick a 
frame file that acts as a template for the frame to word conversion. I cannot 
find where this option is.

Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should put gif=bmp and 
jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs referenced in my frame doc, because 
BMPs turn out better in the conversion.

Can anyone comment on these questions?

Thanks.

best,
Paul

mif2go

[Art Campbell]

Well,
Jeremy may respond too because he's on the list, but here's my take:
* When you set up your project, you can enter the name of a FM
template file to apply to the source files before conversion if you
want to change the appearance of the end document. This path and file
name can also be entered or changed in the .ini file.
* I'm not a great fan of .bmps myself, but if you're going to rtf, it
may be worth trying.
If it doesn't look right in Word, just import the originals.

Art

On 4/25/06, obair81 at comcast.net  wrote:
> I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of a frame doc, but I am 
> missing some details.
>
> I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere where one can pick a 
> frame file that acts as a template for the frame to word conversion. I cannot 
> find where this option is.
>
> Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should put gif=bmp and 
> jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs referenced in my frame doc, because 
> BMPs turn out better in the conversion.
>
> Can anyone comment on these questions?
>
> Thanks.
>


--
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

mif2go

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:01:44 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
wrote:

>I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of 
>a frame doc, 

Yes, it can.

>but I am missing some details.
>
>I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere 
>where one can pick a frame file that acts as a template 
>for the frame to word conversion. I cannot find where 
>this option is.

It's the entire right-hand half of the Set up dialog...
you select the file at the top, and check boxes for the
properties you want to import from it.  The import is
done in a way that does *not* affect the original .fm 
file; only the .mif used for conversion is modified.
For Word output, you mostly need to adjust master pages,
as detailed in the User's Guide, par. 2.3, "Importing 
formats from a conversion template".

>Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should 
>put gif=bmp and jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs 
>referenced in my frame doc, because BMPs turn out better 
>in the conversion.

If you are going to Word, which we presume is the case
here, Mif2Go can embed .bmps into .wmfs and put them
in Word scaled exactly as in FrameMaker.  But for other
formats, we have to let Word embed them itself, in which
case we cannot specify scaling.  That's what "better"
means here, as explained in par. 5.16.1, "Understanding 
graphics requirements for Word".  The setting you mention
is described in par. 5.16.2.1, "Converting referenced 
graphics before Mif2Go (best quality)", and other places.

>Can anyone comment on these questions?

The 800+-page User's Guide is your friend... If you
don't care for the WinHelp version that ships with the
distribution, take your choice of others from:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
All are made with Mif2Go; pick from: HTML Help, HTML,
XHTML, JavaHelp, Oracle Help for Java, PDF, our own
cross-platform OmniHelp (my personal favorite), Word
RTF, and Frame 7.0 itself (with all .ini files, to
use as examples).

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Technical Writing Suite From Adobe

[Daniel Emory]

The "Content Wrangler's" "vision" of FrameMaker?s
future is fatally flawed. It would do little to
improve the quality of on-line help, or increase the
penetration of FrameMaker into the on-line help
market.

Some years back, I wrote an article entitled "Thoughts
About On-Line Help", which is still available at:

www.microtype.com/resources/articles/OLdocs-DE.pdf

I still stand by most of the criteria and conclusions
discussed in that article, and very few. if any,
on-line help documents today come anywhere close to
meeting those criteria.

THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH ON-LINE HELP is that it
delivers the content in HTML, XHTML or XML.This means
it relies almost solely on the canonical simple
cross-reference link: xlink:href="students.xml" to
implement the hypertext capability. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Although the XLink standard defines some additional
link types, none of them are now implementable in
FrameMaker, and few, if any, web browser or on-line
help products have been updated to support those
additional XLink capabilities.

BY CONTRAST, FrameMaker (since the early 1990s)
implements, in addition to the canonical
cross-reference link, 23 robust types of hypertext
links, including: GoToLink, Named Destination, Alert,
Alert with Title, Go to URL (launches browser and
displays the specified web page), Jump to Page Number,
Jump to Previous Page, Jump to Next Page, Jump Back,
Jump Back and Fit to Page, Open Document, Open
Document and Fit to Page, Open Document as New, Open
Document at Page Number, Pop-Up Menu, Button Matrix,
Message Client (communicates with other applications
and creates a link to a URL), Close Current Window,
Close All Hypertext Windows, and Exit Application.

Some of these link types (Alert, Alert with Title,
Pop-Up Menu, Button Matrix) require part of their
implementation to be accomplished on reference pages.
In addition, it should be possible to use the
reference page methodology to implement all of the
link types defined in the XLink standard.

By inserting graphic buttons with embedded hypertext
commands on FrameMaker master pages, navigation bars
can be easily implemented. I?ve implemented large
FrameMaker hypertext documents in which such
master-page navigation bars were used to provide
buttons such as "Global" (clicking on this button
produced a menu of links to major subject areas, plus
hypertexted tables of contents, indexes and
glossaries), Local (clicking on this button produces a
menu of links to locations within the current subject
area), Previous (jumps to the location of the previous
link), and Next (goes to the next page).

UNFORTUNATELY, nearly all of FrameMaker?s linking
capabilities are not convertible to PDF, HTML, XHTML
or XML. The only viewing software that implemented all
of them was the now-defunct FrameViewer product.

WHAT I PROPOSE INSTEAD is that Adobe provide a new
version of FrameMaker that includes (in addition to
all the existing link types) the new types specified
in the XLink standard, and also provide an upgraded
version of Acrobat that can, when a FrameMaker file is
saved as PDF, preserve all those link types. 

PDF has already become a de-facto web standard because
of its superior readability, bookmarks, thumbnails,
and forms capabilities. Adding all of FrameMaker?s
superior hyperlink capabilities to PDF would vastly
expand penetration into web content and on-line help
development. And FrameMaker would replace Robohelp,
Winhelp and similar products as the publishing system
of choice for delivering web and on-line help content
as PDF.

Dan Emory & Associates
FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing

mif2go

[obai...@comcast.net]

Thanks.

How do you see the "Set up print rtf project" dialog after the first setup?

It seems to show once, and then disappear.

I have looked through the manual enough to get my frame to go to word, but the 
word version is still 30 percent bigger than the frame, so it does not look 
like the original.

Maybe one problem is a View in Frame (my custom draft mark) that, even when 
hidden in Frame, shows in Word.  That puts itself in the middle of each page. 
Maybe that is what is throwing off the page size.  I cannot see why this View, 
hidden in Frame, shows in Word.

Paul


 -- Original message --
From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" 
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:01:44 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
> wrote:
> 
> >I am told that mif2go can really duplicate the look of 
> >a frame doc, 
> 
> Yes, it can.
> 
> >but I am missing some details.
> >
> >I am told that in the mif2go setup there is somewhere 
> >where one can pick a frame file that acts as a template 
> >for the frame to word conversion. I cannot find where 
> >this option is.
> 
> It's the entire right-hand half of the Set up dialog...
> you select the file at the top, and check boxes for the
> properties you want to import from it.  The import is
> done in a way that does *not* affect the original .fm 
> file; only the .mif used for conversion is modified.
> For Word output, you mostly need to adjust master pages,
> as detailed in the User's Guide, par. 2.3, "Importing 
> formats from a conversion template".
> 
> >Also, he said that somewhere in the mif2rtf.ini I should 
> >put gif=bmp and jpg=bmp because I have some GIFs and JPGs 
> >referenced in my frame doc, because BMPs turn out better 
> >in the conversion.
> 
> If you are going to Word, which we presume is the case
> here, Mif2Go can embed .bmps into .wmfs and put them
> in Word scaled exactly as in FrameMaker.  But for other
> formats, we have to let Word embed them itself, in which
> case we cannot specify scaling.  That's what "better"
> means here, as explained in par. 5.16.1, "Understanding 
> graphics requirements for Word".  The setting you mention
> is described in par. 5.16.2.1, "Converting referenced 
> graphics before Mif2Go (best quality)", and other places.
> 
> >Can anyone comment on these questions?
> 
> The 800+-page User's Guide is your friend... If you
> don't care for the WinHelp version that ships with the
> distribution, take your choice of others from:
>   http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
> All are made with Mif2Go; pick from: HTML Help, HTML,
> XHTML, JavaHelp, Oracle Help for Java, PDF, our own
> cross-platform OmniHelp (my personal favorite), Word
> RTF, and Frame 7.0 itself (with all .ini files, to
> use as examples).
> 
> HTH!
> 
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> http://www.omsys.com/

mif2go

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:13:15 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
wrote:

>Thanks.

Quite welcome!

>How do you see the "Set up print rtf project" 
>dialog after the first setup?
>It seems to show once, and then disappear.

Right, if there is already a mif2rtf.ini, it doesn't
overwrite it, as that could zap settings you already
made.  However, for RTF, if you do Set up again, you
get the "Conversion Designer", a multipanel GUI for
changing many settings.  Personally, I prefer to edit
the mif2rtf.ini myself, in a text editor like Wordpad.
This is all covered in par. 3.3, "Setting up a Mif2Go 
project".

>I have looked through the manual enough to get my 
>frame to go to word, but the word version is still 
>30 percent bigger than the frame, so it does not 
>look like the original.

If the page size is different, that means there's
something unusual about your Master Pages in Frame.
We obtain the page size and margins from those.
For Word, it's often necessary to use simpler master
pages imported from a conversion template, because
some common Frame usages (like a graphic line in a 
side margin) cause problems for Word, as described
in par. 5.6.7.2, "Adjusting headers and footers for 
conversion".

>Maybe one problem is a View in Frame (my custom draft 
>mark) that, even when hidden in Frame, shows in Word.  
>That puts itself in the middle of each page. Maybe that 
>is what is throwing off the page size.  I cannot see 
>why this View, hidden in Frame, shows in Word.

Nor can I.  We respect all of Frames conditional text
settings.  If you cannot determine what the problem
is after actually reading the User's Guide , you
can send us a one-page test case as described in
Appendix D, with all the files specified there, and
we'll look into it.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Index Formatting Question

[tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com]

I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only 
two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, 
The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly 
indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented 
beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, 
however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels 
breaks across a line:

Level 1   1-1
 Level 22-
 1
Level 3   3-
1


Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of 
manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a 
plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something 
like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option 
to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and 
I just can't go willy-nilly changing it.

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com

Index Formatting Question

[Sarah O'Keefe]

Hi Tammy,

Change the separator to use a nonbreaking hyphen instead of a regular
hyphen. This is in your IX reference page. You'll find something like this:

<$chapnum>-<$pagenum>

in the IndexIX line.

Change the hyphen to a nonbreaking hyphen.

Regards,

Sarah

Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
> I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only 
> two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway, 
> The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly 
> indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented 
> beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, 
> however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels 
> breaks across a line:
> 
> Level 1   1-1
>  Level 22-
>  1
> Level 3   3-
> 1
> 
> 
> Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of 
> manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a 
> plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something 
> like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option 
> to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and 
> I just can't go willy-nilly changing it.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy Van Boening
> Senior Technical Writer
> Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
> 303-328-4420
> tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
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Index Formatting Question

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tammy,

Use a non-breaking hyphen as the separator in your page numbers. Then the 
whole page number will break together.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


>I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only
> two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway,
> The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly
> indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented
> beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations,
> however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels
> breaks across a line:
>
> Level 1   1-1
> Level 22-
> 1
>Level 3   3-
>1
>
>
> Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of
> manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a
> plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something
> like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option
> to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and
> I just can't go willy-nilly changing it.
>
> TIA,
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Senior Technical Writer
> Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
> 303-328-4420
> tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
> ___

Index Formatting Question

[Ridder, Fred]

Well, you can keep the 2-part page number from breaking in the
middle by using a non-breaking hyphen as the separator character.
The entry would still break across lines, but at least the break would
be more logical. 

And you might also decrease the space between the entry text 
and the page number; in your little example it seems kind of excessive 
(although I know the example is not realistic...) so you're more likely
to get breaking lines.

Or you could go to a 2-column layout for the index rather than a 
3-column layout. Unless the font is pretty small, 3-column indexes 
often look cramped to me.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:42 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Index Formatting Question

I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only 
two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!)
Anyway, 
The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly 
indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented 
beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations, 
however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels 
breaks across a line:

Level 1   1-1
 Level 22-
 1
Level 3   3-
1


Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of

manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a 
plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something 
like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the
option 
to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template
and 
I just can't go willy-nilly changing it.

TIA,

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com

Index Formatting Question

[tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com]

Rick and Sarah and Fred, 

Thanks! I made the hyphen a nonbreaking one (had to get the search term 
right though in Framemaker to figure out how - nonbreaking, not 
non-breaking! :-) And yep, Fred, as per comment,

And you might also decrease the space between the entry text 
and the page number; in your little example it seems kind of excessive 
(although I know the example is not realistic...) so you're more likely
to get breaking lines.

it was not realistic, Just wanted to make sure that I visually got my 
point across in an email - sometimes, unless you exaggerate spaces in an 
email, they're not the obvious.

Thanks again - just implemented the change and it works like a charm.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com

Index Formatting Question

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Tammy:

At 2:42 PM -0600 4/25/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
>I have a three-column index with three entry levels. (I cannot use only
>two levels - I have gone over this with an indexing guru - sigh!) Anyway,
>The first level is not indented, the second level is only slightly
>indented beneath the first and the third level is slightly indented
>beneath the second - pretty standard stuff. Based on the indentations,
>however, sometimes, a page number for the second level and third levels
>breaks across a line:
>
>Level 1   1-1
>  Level 22-
>  1
> Level 3   3-
> 1
>
>
>Ok, my editor does not like this and I really don't either, but short of
>manually adjusting this everytime I generate an Index, is there a
>plug-in/what else can I do to make this happen automatically (something
>like TOCBreaker is ringing a bell, but. . .) and unfortunately, the option
>to change the template is not one - it's an in-house/approved template and
>I just can't go willy-nilly changing it.

There's no way to fix this without changing the template. Dr. Phil 
says, "If you keep doing what you've been doing, you'll keep getting 
what you've been getting."

Some ways to change the template include:

* Change the Level*IX paragraph prototypes on the index reference 
page to use a non-breaking hyphen between the chapter-page number 
building blocks. This will keep the page number from breaking at the 
column edge.

* Change the spaces before and after "1" at the beginning of the 
LevelsIX prototype to a non-breaking space. This keeps the number 
with the last word of each entry. Experiment to see if multiple-word 
entries, or multiple page references work well with this. You might 
want to make only one of these spaces as non-breaking, depending on 
what's in your index.

* Change the word-spacing settings for the Level*IX paragraphs in the 
Advanced properties of the paragraph designer to allow more squishing 
between words. Consider allowing more squishing even between letters.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Technical Writing Suite From Adobe

[Bill Briggs]

At 11:41 AM -0700 4/25/06, Daniel Emory wrote:
>WHAT I PROPOSE INSTEAD is that Adobe provide a new
>version of FrameMaker that includes (in addition to
>all the existing link types) the new types specified
>in the XLink standard, and also provide an upgraded
>version of Acrobat that can, when a FrameMaker file is
>saved as PDF, preserve all those link types.

 Wouldn't that be a treat. I'd dance naked in the back yard if they did that. 
Well, okay, they'd have to do an OS X version to get me naked, but it would be 
a really big deal if they were to do that. I'm so tired of software upgrades 
that add bullshit features (I'm reminded of Eudora's chili peppers, and ESP 
groups, or other stuff nobody uses). A few long standing FrameMaker bugs fixed 
would be nice too (I've always dreamed of a cross-reference marker that worked).

 But I've more or less given up on Adobe doing anything to keep me on 
FrameMaker. It's a lost cause for us Mac users, and Solaris will be next to go, 
and then our department is right back to where we were before we bought 
FrameMaker 4 years ago. Adobe screwed us and torched our "solution". I'm not 
booting into any Windows OS just to use FrameMaker. The baggage of XP or Vista 
isn't worth the headache. Every time I use XP in the lab at work I am 
astonished at how convoluted it is. I'll be fine with LaTeX.

 Pity that Adobe didn't take heed of the suggestions like the ones just offered 
by Dan. Pity that they didn't fix the footnotes, make it truly cross platform 
again, and sell into the Academic publishing market. It's huge, and ripe for 
the plucking. It's now dominated by very unhappy Word users. But we'll never 
see anything done about this.

 They'll never get another cent of mine.

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Missing Zapf Dingbats - can't reformat?

[Rosemary Tinsley]

Hello,

Does anyone know how to override missing fonts? 

Here is my issue: When opening a file, FM gives me the missing font/will be 
reformatted message. I click OK. The document is automatically reformatted. 

I save and close. When I open the doc again, I get the missing font message. 
The formats were not saved afterall. 

If anyone knows why this is, and how I can work around it, I'd appreciate your 
help. 

Also, has anyone out there had to buy Adobe Type in order to use fonts FM 
defaults to?

Thanks! 

Rosemary Tinsley, Technical Writer
Myrio - Siemens
425-368-4525