Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Jenny Greenleaf]

These are readily available from Adobe. I got one and gave it to my  
client in case I get hit by a truck. Since they don't have Frame 9  
anywhere in the office (it comes in with me and my laptop), they'd be  
in a jam if they needed to get something done quickly and I was  
incapacitated. With the trial CD, they can run it and get something  
done while going through the process to order a copy.

I thought it was a nice gesture to be able to make. The client  
appreciates it. It's well worth having one of these around!

Jenny


On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

 I was inundated with requests and I just responded  in the order  
 received.
 however, if all the requestors don't send in an SASE, I post again.  
 FWIW,
 you might still be able to get a free CD from Adobe - you don't have  
 to
 download from the site (I was informed of this offlist so I hope it  
 does
 work!)


 Thanks and I wish I could send everyone that asked for one a copy -  
 that's
 the part about this that I hate!!

 Tammy Van Boening
 Owner/Principal
 Spectrum Writing, LLC
 email: i...@spectrumwritingllc.com
 web: www.spectrumwritingllc.com


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Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?  The FM 
help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is 
255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.  

Thanks,
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Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Neeraj Jain]

Hi Jenny,

Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited 
www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day trial.

 
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From: Jenny Greenleaf jgreenl...@mac.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 5:35:18 AM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

These are readily available from Adobe. I got one and gave it to my  
client in case I get hit by a truck. Since they don't have Frame 9  
anywhere in the office (it comes in with me and my laptop), they'd be  
in a jam if they needed to get something done quickly and I was  
incapacitated. With the trial CD, they can run it and get something  
done while going through the process to order a copy.

I thought it was a nice gesture to be able to make. The client  
appreciates it. It's well worth having one of these around!

Jenny


On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

 I was inundated with requests and I just responded  in the order  
 received.
 however, if all the requestors don't send in an SASE, I post again.  
 FWIW,
 you might still be able to get a free CD from Adobe - you don't have  
 to
 download from the site (I was informed of this offlist so I hope it  
 does
 work!)


 Thanks and I wish I could send everyone that asked for one a copy -  
 that's
 the part about this that I hate!!

 Tammy Van Boening
 Owner/Principal
 Spectrum Writing, LLC
 email: i...@spectrumwritingllc.com
 web: www.spectrumwritingllc.com


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Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to 
the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a 
shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding 
a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define 
it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text 
to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you 
could use F9,e,n,ENTER to apply the style.

-- 
Regards,
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Technical Writer
052-763-7133

 

Jenny Greenleaf wrote:
 One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next.  
 Is there a key combination to perform this task?

 I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key  
 combinations, but didn't see this one.

 I'm using Frame 9.

 Thanks!

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RE: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Login to Adobe  go to http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj Jain
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM
To: Jenny Greenleaf; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

Hi Jenny,

Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited 
www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day trial.

 
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Regards,
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From: Jenny Greenleaf jgreenl...@mac.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 5:35:18 AM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

These are readily available from Adobe. I got one and gave it to my  
client in case I get hit by a truck. Since they don't have Frame 9  
anywhere in the office (it comes in with me and my laptop), they'd be  
in a jam if they needed to get something done quickly and I was  
incapacitated. With the trial CD, they can run it and get something  
done while going through the process to order a copy.

I thought it was a nice gesture to be able to make. The client  
appreciates it. It's well worth having one of these around!

Jenny


On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

 I was inundated with requests and I just responded  in the order  
 received.
 however, if all the requestors don't send in an SASE, I post again.  
 FWIW,
 you might still be able to get a free CD from Adobe - you don't have  
 to
 download from the site (I was informed of this offlist so I hope it  
 does
 work!)


 Thanks and I wish I could send everyone that asked for one a copy -  
 that's
 the part about this that I hate!!

 Tammy Van Boening
 Owner/Principal
 Spectrum Writing, LLC
 email: i...@spectrumwritingllc.com
 web: www.spectrumwritingllc.com


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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Diane,

I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to 
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine. 

Loop While(i = 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i);
EndLoop
  
How many do you need?

Rick Quatro
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From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?  The FM 
help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is 
255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.  

Thanks,
Diane

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Re: Conditionalizing screens shots in FrameMaker 9.0/ePublisherPro

[Art Campbell]

It's pretty easy, but I'd use an Anchor paragraph tag that doesn't contain
text. Its only purpose is to provide a spot outside text paragraphs to hang
an anchored frame or table.
Once these are in place, you can easily conditionalize the para tag and the
only effect is to hide the anchored frame (or table).
I usually set mine to a font size of 2 pt so they don't take up much room,
and I also usually make them red and use a special margin so they stand out
on screen.


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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Larry Kovner la...@kovner.net wrote:

 Hi all:

 I'm single sourcing using FrameMaker 9.0 and ePublisherPro 2009.2.

 The chapters in my FrameMaker book have many screen captures (.gif format),
 which need to appear in the PDF version. These screens do not need to appear
 in the EpublisherPro generated HTML online help version. I've enabled the
 PDF options in EpublisherPro so customers can access the PDF version of the
 book from the online help.

 WebWorks tech support recommends I conditionalize the anchored screens in
 my FrameMaker book chapters, hide them, print to PDF, and replace the
 auto-generated  PDF file that EpublisherPro creates with this file.

 I tested a chapter of my book and can see how this will work. However,
 before I go ahead with this method, I thought I'd see if anyone else has
 done it this way - or knows of a better way and can share their experiences.

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Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Shlomo Perets]

Jenny,

You wrote:

One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next.
Is there a key combination to perform this task?

I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key
combinations, but didn't see this one.

-- adding to the fine suggestions made by Rick Quatro and Matt Sullivan --

The keep with next pgf property does not have a built-in shortcut (and as 
far as I know it cannot be assigned a custom one).

However, if you happen to have FrameScript, you can easily set-up a 
shortcut which turns this property on, or toggles its current state (I will 
gladly send you the necessary script/instructions, if needed).


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Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Peter Gold]

You can look for keystroke commands in the *.cfg files in your
FrameMaker installation directory. There may be one for applying Keep
With Next Paragraph. You can learn about customizing these files here:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/pdfs/Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf

If it's not available through a customized menu, and you don't want to
use a dedicated paragraph format, you can try a kludge like this:

NOTE: Tap the keys in order, one by one. Case is important.
NOTE: ! means the Escape key

! o p d (opens paragraph designer with the current paragraph style active)

Page Down or Page Up to the Pagination properties panel of the designer

Tab through the panel to the Keep With area and select the Next option

Tab through the panel to Apply (not Update All)

It's probably more work than you'd likeG.

HTH

Regards,

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 Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to
 the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a
 shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding
 a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define
 it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text
 to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you
 could use F9,e,n,ENTER to apply the style.
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Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Stuart Rogers]

Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
 Login to Adobe  go to
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs
 
 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj
 Jain Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM To: Jenny Greenleaf;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day
 trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!
 
 Hi Jenny,
 
 Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited
 www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day
 trial.
 


Or: http://www.runaware.com/clients/adobe/techsuite/

(which you eventually (*eventually!*) get to from adobe.com, Products 
menu, All Products dropdown list, Technical Communications Suite 2, GO, 
TestDrive Now (hidden as the last link on the page or off to the right 
under Next Steps.  Sheesh.)

-- 
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Technical Communicator
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Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Stuart Rogers]

Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
 Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to 
 the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a 
 shortcut key for. 

Actually, it *is* the type of thing they would make a shortcut key for, 
but apparently didn't.

There are shortcuts for placing a pgf at top of:
Page (Esc j P)
Column (Esc j C)
Left Page (Esc j L)
Right page (Esc j R)

and for aligning:
centre (Esc j c)
left (Esc j l)
right (Esc j r)
full (Esc j f)

-- all of which are overrides.  But oddly, there doesn't seem to be a 
shortcut for Keep With Next.

Not that it matters to me.  I don't use overrides except in one-offs 
like brochure layouts; they cause too much trouble in books.

best,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Neeraj Jain]

What I am looking for is not a download. The suite is very heavy, and I do not 
have so much bandwidth.

I am looking for a TCS2 trial CD/DVD.
 
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From: Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
Cc: Neeraj Jain neerajja...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:52:01 PM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
 Login to Adobe  go to
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs
 
 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj
 Jain Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM To: Jenny Greenleaf;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day
 trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!
 
 Hi Jenny,
 
 Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited
 www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day
 trial.
 


Or: http://www.runaware.com/clients/adobe/techsuite/

(which you eventually (*eventually!*) get to from adobe.com, Products menu, All 
Products dropdown list, Technical Communications Suite 2, GO, TestDrive Now 
(hidden as the last link on the page or off to the right under Next Steps.  
Sheesh.)

-- Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words.

-- Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915)



  
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Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Ian Hawkins]

As others have said, there isn't a key combination that will do this 
directly. However, you can ease the pain a little.

- Type either CTRL+M (single key combination) or ESC o p d (four 
separate characters) to open the paragraph designer.

- Select the Pagination tab. If you are doing a lot of this, just leave 
the paragraph designer open on that tab.

- Type ALT+n to toggle the Next Pgf selection.

- By default, the Apply button should be active, with a bold outline. If 
so, press ENTER. Otherwise press ALT+a.

Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier 
than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the 
right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER.

Ian
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Re: Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Ian Hawkins]

... and if you get into the paragraph designer, but you want to jump 
back to your active document without making changes, press SHIFT+F7. 
This will work from most FrameMaker dialogs.

I hope they haven't changed any of these for FM 9.

Ian

Ian Hawkins wrote:
 Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier 
 than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the 
 right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER.

   
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RE: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Jeff Coatsworth]

You can order one on that page or they're now offering a virtual server install 
so you don't have to wait for the DVD to arrive 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj Jain
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:40 AM
To: Stuart Rogers
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

What I am looking for is not a download. The suite is very heavy, and I do not 
have so much bandwidth.

I am looking for a TCS2 trial CD/DVD.
 
__
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Regards,
NJ
http://www.neerajjain8.com
 


 





From: Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
Cc: Neeraj Jain neerajja...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:52:01 PM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
 Login to Adobe  go to
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs
 
 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj
 Jain Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM To: Jenny Greenleaf;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day
 trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!
 
 Hi Jenny,
 
 Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited
 www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day
 trial.
 


Or: http://www.runaware.com/clients/adobe/techsuite/

(which you eventually (*eventually!*) get to from adobe.com, Products menu, All 
Products dropdown list, Technical Communications Suite 2, GO, TestDrive Now 
(hidden as the last link on the page or off to the right under Next Steps.  
Sheesh.)

-- Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words.

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Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[Jim Owens]

This is a weird one -- any clues would be appreciated.

I'm generating HTML Help using Mif2GO and two conditionalized Frame 9 
books. I don't want the LOT or LOF in the outputs, so I've set 
UseFrameGenFiles=No.

Nevertheless, when I search for terms such as figure or table in the 
Help, the returned list of topics may or may not include a List of 
Figures or List of Tables chapter. For one of the books, this does not 
happen at all. For the oher book, if I set conditions one way, I see the 
LOT in the output but not the LOF; if I set them another way, I see the 
LOF but not the LOT.

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RE: Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[David Spreadbury]

Jim,
Just remove the generated files from the book before setting up Mif2Go.
Mif2Go can create the generated files selected if you so choose in the setup
dialog.

The only caveat, if you are working with the sole set of source files, is
not to save the book when you are done. I always work with a copy of the
source, in the event I forgot that last step.

David Spreadbury
Sr. Technical Writer


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Owens
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:38 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

This is a weird one -- any clues would be appreciated.

I'm generating HTML Help using Mif2GO and two conditionalized Frame 9 
books. I don't want the LOT or LOF in the outputs, so I've set 
UseFrameGenFiles=No.

Nevertheless, when I search for terms such as figure or table in the 
Help, the returned list of topics may or may not include a List of 
Figures or List of Tables chapter. For one of the books, this does not 
happen at all. For the oher book, if I set conditions one way, I see the 
LOT in the output but not the LOF; if I set them another way, I see the 
LOF but not the LOT.

Any ideas?



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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Rick,

10,000?  That's considerably more than I expected.  Thanks lots for doing that. 
 I've just gotta make the time to learn FS. :-)

I'm not sure how many we need, maybe 100 or so.  We're trying to come up with a 
common set of variables that we can use across the department for all the 
versions of the products we document.  This is part of our content modeling and 
reusability plan.  We also single source some of the docs to RH and also 
rebrand some of our our docs for an OEM customer.  Challenging, for sure.

Now all we have to do is make sure that the variables save in XML.  According 
to the FM help, they do. As you know, one of our OEMs uses Arbortext and we use 
a DocBook template that creates XML that they can import.  Even more 
challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute settings (the DocBook 
XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported across the book from one 
chapter like conditional text can.  I'm told that there is no function in the 
FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot solve this problem.  

Thanks again.

Diane
= 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:57 AM
To: 'Diane Gaskill'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?


Hi Diane,

I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to 
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine. 

Loop While(i = 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i);
EndLoop
  
How many do you need?

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com




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From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?  The FM 
help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is 
255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.  

Thanks,
Diane

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Re: Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[Jim Owens]

That's a useful workaround, but the LOT and LOF shouldn't show up in the 
output, and usually they don't.

Whatever caused the problem, it may have gone away. The output folders 
contain HTML files for the LOT or LOF, and these files are picked up by 
the HHP project, but the LOT and LOF files have an older date. At some 
point they were generated, but they're no longer being generated. They 
were just never removed from the output directory.

I'll put it down to a user error of some sort, delete them, and hope 
they don't get generated again somehow.



David Spreadbury wrote:
 Jim,
 Just remove the generated files from the book before setting up Mif2Go.
 Mif2Go can create the generated files selected if you so choose in the setup
 dialog.

 The only caveat, if you are working with the sole set of source files, is
 not to save the book when you are done. I always work with a copy of the
 source, in the event I forgot that last step.

 David Spreadbury
 Sr. Technical Writer


   

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Re: Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[Jim Owens]

I suspect that while fumbling around in the new FM9 interface, I 
accidentally generated Mif2Go output for the LOF and LOT instead of the 
book.

I can never tell what's selected in this interface. Am I the only one?


Jim Owens wrote:

 I'll put it down to a user error of some sort, delete them, and hope 
 they don't get generated again somehow.
   


   

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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Matt Sullivan]

Your variables will export out. One way is to address them in the Structured
Application (the Read/Write Rules) to configure them the way your DTD wants
them. (as either internal entities or as external entities defined in a/the
DTD.

That'll make them transfer in and out of FM properly.


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-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:14 AM
To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Rick,

10,000?  That's considerably more than I expected.  Thanks lots for doing
that.  I've just gotta make the time to learn FS. :-)

I'm not sure how many we need, maybe 100 or so.  We're trying to come up
with a common set of variables that we can use across the department for all
the versions of the products we document.  This is part of our content
modeling and reusability plan.  We also single source some of the docs to RH
and also rebrand some of our our docs for an OEM customer.  Challenging, for
sure.

Now all we have to do is make sure that the variables save in XML.
According to the FM help, they do. As you know, one of our OEMs uses
Arbortext and we use a DocBook template that creates XML that they can
import.  Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute
settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported
across the book from one chapter like conditional text can.  I'm told that
there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot
solve this problem.  

Thanks again.

Diane
= 

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:57 AM
To: 'Diane Gaskill'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?


Hi Diane,

I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine. 

Loop While(i = 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i); EndLoop
  
How many do you need?

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?  The
FM help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition
is 255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.  

Thanks,
Diane


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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Syed.Hosain]

Hi, Diane.

I have over 700 variables in one of my documents ... no problem at all!
In case anyone wonders why I have so many: has to do with a set of
numeric values in one of my specs that are refered to in multiple places
- fwiw, it is better to be consistent everywhere, than wrong in even one
place! So, variables is the answer. :)

Anyway, the allowed number is therefore higher than that, I suspect.

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:15 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?
The FM help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable
definition is 255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.


Thanks,
Diane
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Setting FM markers for external links

[Jon Harvey]

Everyone,

 

Our processes include importing FM 9.0 files into MadCap Flare to create
online help. Many of these docs we develop in FrameMaker include URLs to
Web pages that we would like to have open in their own browser window
(not in the online help window). The problem is that each time we import
into Flare, we have to add a target=myURL.htm attribute to each a
tag. Is there a hypertext marker in FM that will enable us to set it
and forget it so we don't have to change the a tag each time? I've
tried solving this problem on the Flare side by modifying the CSS but
there is apparently no such CSS attribute that will do this.

 

 

Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop  Enterprise Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

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(617) 588-9354

 

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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Lynne A. Price]

At 11:14 AM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute 
settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be 
imported across the book from one chapter like conditional text can.  I'm 
told that there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently 
FS cannot solve this problem.

Diane,
   I'm not sure what you mean here. It is true that importing formats from 
one document to others (including those in a book) does not import the 
definition of attribute expressions used by filter-by-attribute; nor does 
it apply the filter used in the source to the destination documents. 
However, at least in FM9, the FDK can do so.
 --Lynne



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Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
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Captivate User Group?

[Barry.Kieffer]

Is there a group like this just for Captivate?

Like so many tech writers, I am asked at times to create tutorials and 
training materials.

I have learned so much just monitoring this list, a captivate list would 
be the bees knees.


Regards,
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Technical Writer
Internet, Military, and Consumer 
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Re: Captivate User Group?

[Writer]

There seems to be one on Yahoo groups, but it doesn't look very active: 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/captivateusergroup/

There is also the Denver Metro E-learners Developers group: 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmeld/

And finally, the Captivate forum on the Adobe site: 
http://forums.adobe.com/community/adobe_captivate

HTH or at least gets you started,

Nadine

barry.kief...@jeppesen.com wrote:
 Is there a group like this just for Captivate?

 Like so many tech writers, I am asked at times to create tutorials and 
 training materials.

 I have learned so much just monitoring this list, a captivate list would 
 be the bees knees.


 Regards,
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 Technical Writer
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RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Lynne,

If I read your message correctly, FM9 has a function in the FDK that can
import filter-by-attribute settings.  Please confirm.  This will solve a
major problem for us.

Thanks lots,
Diane

-Original Message-
From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:30 PM
To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?


At 11:14 AM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute
settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be
imported across the book from one chapter like conditional text can.  I'm
told that there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently
FS cannot solve this problem.

Diane,
   I'm not sure what you mean here. It is true that importing formats from
one document to others (including those in a book) does not import the
definition of attribute expressions used by filter-by-attribute; nor does
it apply the filter used in the source to the destination documents.
However, at least in FM9, the FDK can do so.
 --Lynne



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Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development,
and training
lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
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6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Neeraj Jain]

Hi Jenny,

Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I?visited 
www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day trial.

?
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?


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From: Jenny Greenleaf 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 5:35:18 AM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

These are readily available from Adobe. I got one and gave it to my? 
client in case I get hit by a truck. Since they don't have Frame 9? 
anywhere in the office (it comes in with me and my laptop), they'd be? 
in a jam if they needed to get something done quickly and I was? 
incapacitated. With the trial CD, they can run it and get something? 
done while going through the process to order a copy.

I thought it was a nice gesture to be able to make. The client? 
appreciates it. It's well worth having one of these around!

Jenny


On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

> I was inundated with requests and I just responded? in the order? 
> received.
> however, if all the requestors don't send in an SASE, I post again.? 
> FWIW,
> you might still be able to get a free CD from Adobe - you don't have? 
> to
> download from the site (I was informed of this offlist so I hope it? 
> does
> work!)
>
>
> Thanks and I wish I could send everyone that asked for one a copy -? 
> that's
> the part about this that I hate!!
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> email: info at spectrumwritingllc.com
> web: www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to 
the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a 
shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding 
a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define 
it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text 
to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you 
could use "F9,e,n,ENTER" to apply the style.

-- 
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> Is there a key combination to perform this task?
>
> I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key  
> combinations, but didn't see this one.
>
> I'm using Frame 9.
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> Thanks!
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6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Login to Adobe & go to http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj Jain
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM
To: Jenny Greenleaf; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

Hi Jenny,

Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I?visited 
www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day trial.

?
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From: Jenny Greenleaf 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 5:35:18 AM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

These are readily available from Adobe. I got one and gave it to my? 
client in case I get hit by a truck. Since they don't have Frame 9? 
anywhere in the office (it comes in with me and my laptop), they'd be? 
in a jam if they needed to get something done quickly and I was? 
incapacitated. With the trial CD, they can run it and get something? 
done while going through the process to order a copy.

I thought it was a nice gesture to be able to make. The client? 
appreciates it. It's well worth having one of these around!

Jenny


On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

> I was inundated with requests and I just responded? in the order? 
> received.
> however, if all the requestors don't send in an SASE, I post again.? 
> FWIW,
> you might still be able to get a free CD from Adobe - you don't have? 
> to
> download from the site (I was informed of this offlist so I hope it? 
> does
> work!)
>
>
> Thanks and I wish I could send everyone that asked for one a copy -? 
> that's
> the part about this that I hate!!
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Owner/Principal
> Spectrum Writing, LLC
> email: info at spectrumwritingllc.com
> web: www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Diane,

I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to 
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine. 

Loop While(i <= 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i);
EndLoop

How many do you need?

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?  The FM 
help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is 
255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.  

Thanks,
Diane

Conditionalizing screens shots in FrameMaker 9.0/ePublisherPro

[Art Campbell]

It's pretty easy, but I'd use an Anchor paragraph tag that doesn't contain
text. Its only purpose is to provide a spot outside text paragraphs to hang
an anchored frame or table.
Once these are in place, you can easily conditionalize the para tag and the
only effect is to hide the anchored frame (or table).
I usually set mine to a font size of 2 pt so they don't take up much room,
and I also usually make them red and use a special margin so they stand out
on screen.


Art Campbell
 art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Larry Kovner  wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> I'm single sourcing using FrameMaker 9.0 and ePublisherPro 2009.2.
>
> The chapters in my FrameMaker book have many screen captures (.gif format),
> which need to appear in the PDF version. These screens do not need to appear
> in the EpublisherPro generated HTML online help version. I've enabled the
> PDF options in EpublisherPro so customers can access the PDF version of the
> book from the online help.
>
> WebWorks tech support recommends I conditionalize the anchored screens in
> my FrameMaker book chapters, hide them, print to PDF, and replace the
> auto-generated  PDF file that EpublisherPro creates with this file.
>
> I tested a chapter of my book and can see how this will work. However,
> before I go ahead with this method, I thought I'd see if anyone else has
> done it this way - or knows of a better way and can share their experiences.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
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Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Shlomo Perets]

Jenny,

You wrote:

>One of the things I do frequently is set paragraphs to keep with next.
>Is there a key combination to perform this task?
>
>I have looked through the Frame User Guide, which lists a lot of key
>combinations, but didn't see this one.

-- adding to the fine suggestions made by Rick Quatro and Matt Sullivan --

The "keep with next pgf" property does not have a built-in shortcut (and as 
far as I know it cannot be assigned a custom one).

However, if you happen to have FrameScript, you can easily set-up a 
shortcut which turns this property on, or toggles its current state (I will 
gladly send you the necessary script/instructions, if needed).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
"Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" web-based training sessions

Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Peter Gold]

You can look for keystroke commands in the *.cfg files in your
FrameMaker installation directory. There may be one for applying Keep
With Next Paragraph. You can learn about customizing these files here:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/pdfs/Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf

If it's not available through a customized menu, and you don't want to
use a dedicated paragraph format, you can try a kludge like this:

NOTE: Tap the keys in order, one by one. Case is important.
NOTE: ! means the Escape key

! o p d (opens paragraph designer with the current paragraph style active)

Page Down or Page Up to the Pagination properties panel of the designer

Tab through the panel to the Keep With area and select the Next option

Tab through the panel to Apply (not Update All)

It's probably more work than you'd like.

HTH

Regards,

Peter
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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
> Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to
> the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a
> shortcut key for. If you want a shortcut key, you might consider adding
> a style for the end of the page. You could call it EndOfPage, and define
> it with 600 points after the paragraph. This forces the rest of the text
> to the next page without making an exception to any style. Then you
> could use "F9,e,n,ENTER" to apply the style.

6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Stuart Rogers]

Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
> Login to Adobe & go to
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs
> 
> -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj
> Jain Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM To: Jenny Greenleaf;
> framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day
> trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!
> 
> Hi Jenny,
> 
> Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited
> www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day
> trial.
> 


Or: http://www.runaware.com/clients/adobe/techsuite/

(which you eventually (*eventually!*) get to from adobe.com, Products 
menu, All Products dropdown list, Technical Communications Suite 2, GO, 
TestDrive Now (hidden as the last link on the page or off to the right 
under Next Steps.  Sheesh.)

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

"He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words."

-- Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915)

Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Stuart Rogers]

Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
> Applying Keep with Next in this way is basically making exceptions to 
> the paragraph styles. It's not the type of thing they would make a 
> shortcut key for. 

Actually, it *is* the type of thing they would make a shortcut key for, 
but apparently didn't.

There are shortcuts for placing a pgf at top of:
Page (Esc j P)
Column (Esc j C)
Left Page (Esc j L)
Right page (Esc j R)

and for aligning:
centre (Esc j c)
left (Esc j l)
right (Esc j r)
full (Esc j f)

-- all of which are overrides.  But oddly, there doesn't seem to be a 
shortcut for Keep With Next.

Not that it matters to me.  I don't use overrides except in one-offs 
like brochure layouts; they cause too much trouble in books.

best,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

"He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand 
your words."

-- Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915)

6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Neeraj Jain]

What I am looking for?is not a download.?The suite is very heavy, and I do not 
have so much bandwidth.

I am looking for a TCS2 trial CD/DVD.
?
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Regards, 
NJ
http://www.neerajjain8.com
?


?





From: Stuart Rogers 
Cc: Neeraj Jain ; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:52:01 PM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
> Login to Adobe & go to
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs
> 
> -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj
> Jain Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM To: Jenny Greenleaf;
> framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day
> trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!
> 
> Hi Jenny,
> 
> Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited
> www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day
> trial.
> 


Or: http://www.runaware.com/clients/adobe/techsuite/

(which you eventually (*eventually!*) get to from adobe.com, Products menu, All 
Products dropdown list, Technical Communications Suite 2, GO, TestDrive Now 
(hidden as the last link on the page or off to the right under Next Steps.? 
Sheesh.)

-- Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

"He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words."

-- Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915)

Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Ian Hawkins]

As others have said, there isn't a key combination that will do this 
directly. However, you can ease the pain a little.

- Type either CTRL+M (single key combination) or ESC o p d (four 
separate characters) to open the paragraph designer.

- Select the Pagination tab. If you are doing a lot of this, just leave 
the paragraph designer open on that tab.

- Type ALT+n to toggle the Next Pgf selection.

- By default, the Apply button should be active, with a bold outline. If 
so, press ENTER. Otherwise press ALT+a.

Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier 
than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the 
right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER.

Ian

Key combo for Keep with Next?

[Ian Hawkins]

... and if you get into the paragraph designer, but you want to jump 
back to your active document without making changes, press SHIFT+F7. 
This will work from most FrameMaker dialogs.

I hope they haven't changed any of these for FM 9.

Ian

Ian Hawkins wrote:
> Try it a few times; it's really not that much trouble, and a lot easier 
> than using the mouse. When the paragraph designer is already open on the 
> right tab, it's only three keystrokes: CTRL+M, ALT+n, ENTER.
>
>   

6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

[Jeff Coatsworth]

You can order one on that page or they're now offering a virtual server install 
so you don't have to wait for the DVD to arrive 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj Jain
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:40 AM
To: Stuart Rogers
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

What I am looking for?is not a download.?The suite is very heavy, and I do not 
have so much bandwidth.

I am looking for a TCS2 trial CD/DVD.
?
__
Smile can help you in winning awards in beauty pageants

Regards,
NJ
http://www.neerajjain8.com
?


?





From: Stuart Rogers 
Cc: Neeraj Jain ; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:52:01 PM
Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!

Jeff Coatsworth wrote:
> Login to Adobe & go to
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=tcs
> 
> -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Neeraj
> Jain Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:49 AM To: Jenny Greenleaf;
> framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: 6 CDs remaining for 30 day
> trial of Adobe TCS2 - all gone!
> 
> Hi Jenny,
> 
> Could you tell me how to get it from Adobe? I am in India. I visited
> www.adobe.com and could not find any link for getting the 30-day
> trial.
> 


Or: http://www.runaware.com/clients/adobe/techsuite/

(which you eventually (*eventually!*) get to from adobe.com, Products menu, All 
Products dropdown list, Technical Communications Suite 2, GO, TestDrive Now 
(hidden as the last link on the page or off to the right under Next Steps.? 
Sheesh.)

-- Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

"He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words."

-- Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915)




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Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[Jim Owens]

This is a weird one -- any clues would be appreciated.

I'm generating HTML Help using Mif2GO and two conditionalized Frame 9 
books. I don't want the LOT or LOF in the outputs, so I've set 
UseFrameGenFiles=No.

Nevertheless, when I search for terms such as "figure" or "table" in the 
Help, the returned list of topics may or may not include a List of 
Figures or List of Tables chapter. For one of the books, this does not 
happen at all. For the oher book, if I set conditions one way, I see the 
LOT in the output but not the LOF; if I set them another way, I see the 
LOF but not the LOT.

Any ideas?

Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[David Spreadbury]

Jim,
Just remove the generated files from the book before setting up Mif2Go.
Mif2Go can create the generated files selected if you so choose in the setup
dialog.

The only caveat, if you are working with the sole set of source files, is
not to save the book when you are done. I always work with a copy of the
source, in the event I forgot that last step.

David Spreadbury
Sr. Technical Writer


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Owens
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:38 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

This is a weird one -- any clues would be appreciated.

I'm generating HTML Help using Mif2GO and two conditionalized Frame 9 
books. I don't want the LOT or LOF in the outputs, so I've set 
UseFrameGenFiles=No.

Nevertheless, when I search for terms such as "figure" or "table" in the 
Help, the returned list of topics may or may not include a List of 
Figures or List of Tables chapter. For one of the books, this does not 
happen at all. For the oher book, if I set conditions one way, I see the 
LOT in the output but not the LOF; if I set them another way, I see the 
LOF but not the LOT.

Any ideas?



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Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Rick,

10,000?  That's considerably more than I expected.  Thanks lots for doing that. 
 I've just gotta make the time to learn FS. :-)

I'm not sure how many we need, maybe 100 or so.  We're trying to come up with a 
common set of variables that we can use across the department for all the 
versions of the products we document.  This is part of our content modeling and 
reusability plan.  We also single source some of the docs to RH and also 
rebrand some of our our docs for an OEM customer.  Challenging, for sure.

Now all we have to do is make sure that the variables save in XML.  According 
to the FM help, they do. As you know, one of our OEMs uses Arbortext and we use 
a DocBook template that creates XML that they can import.  Even more 
challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute settings (the DocBook 
XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported across the book from one 
chapter like conditional text can.  I'm told that there is no function in the 
FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot solve this problem.  

Thanks again.

Diane
= 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:57 AM
To: 'Diane Gaskill'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?


Hi Diane,

I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to 
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine. 

Loop While(i <= 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i);
EndLoop

How many do you need?

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?  The FM 
help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition is 
255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.  

Thanks,
Diane

Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[Jim Owens]

That's a useful workaround, but the LOT and LOF shouldn't show up in the 
output, and usually they don't.

Whatever caused the problem, it may have gone away. The output folders 
contain HTML files for the LOT or LOF, and these files are picked up by 
the HHP project, but the LOT and LOF files have an older date. At some 
point they were generated, but they're no longer being generated. They 
were just never removed from the output directory.

I'll put it down to a user error of some sort, delete them, and hope 
they don't get generated again somehow.



David Spreadbury wrote:
> Jim,
> Just remove the generated files from the book before setting up Mif2Go.
> Mif2Go can create the generated files selected if you so choose in the setup
> dialog.
>
> The only caveat, if you are working with the sole set of source files, is
> not to save the book when you are done. I always work with a copy of the
> source, in the event I forgot that last step.
>
> David Spreadbury
> Sr. Technical Writer
>
>
>   

Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output

[Jim Owens]

I suspect that while fumbling around in the new FM9 interface, I 
accidentally generated Mif2Go output for the LOF and LOT instead of the 
book.

I can never tell what's selected in this interface. Am I the only one?


Jim Owens wrote:
>
> I'll put it down to a user error of some sort, delete them, and hope 
> they don't get generated again somehow.
>   
>
>
>   

Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Matt Sullivan]

Your variables will export out. One way is to address them in the Structured
Application (the Read/Write Rules) to configure them the way your DTD wants
them. (as either internal entities or as external entities defined in a/the
DTD.

That'll make them transfer in and out of FM properly.


-Matt

Matt Sullivan
GRAFIX Training

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cell & txt 714 585-2335
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-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:14 AM
To: Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Rick,

10,000?  That's considerably more than I expected.  Thanks lots for doing
that.  I've just gotta make the time to learn FS. :-)

I'm not sure how many we need, maybe 100 or so.  We're trying to come up
with a common set of variables that we can use across the department for all
the versions of the products we document.  This is part of our content
modeling and reusability plan.  We also single source some of the docs to RH
and also rebrand some of our our docs for an OEM customer.  Challenging, for
sure.

Now all we have to do is make sure that the variables save in XML.
According to the FM help, they do. As you know, one of our OEMs uses
Arbortext and we use a DocBook template that creates XML that they can
import.  Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute
settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be imported
across the book from one chapter like conditional text can.  I'm told that
there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently FS cannot
solve this problem.  

Thanks again.

Diane
= 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:57 AM
To: 'Diane Gaskill'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: 'Matt Sullivan'
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?


Hi Diane,

I am not sure what the limit is, but I just used this little code snippet to
create 10,000 of them in a blank document, and it seemed to work fine. 

Loop While(i <= 1) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  New VariableFormat DocObject(ActiveDoc) Name('Variable'+i); EndLoop

How many do you need?

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:dgcal...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:15 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Matt Sullivan; Rick Quatro
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?  The
FM help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable definition
is 255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.  

Thanks,
Diane

Maximum number of variables in FM?

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Hi, Diane.

I have over 700 variables in one of my documents ... no problem at all!
In case anyone wonders why I have so many: has to do with a set of
numeric values in one of my specs that are refered to in multiple places
- fwiw, it is better to be consistent everywhere, than wrong in even one
place! So, variables is the answer. :)

Anyway, the allowed number is therefore higher than that, I suspect.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:15 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Maximum number of variables in FM?

Hi Matt, Rick, and Everyone,

What the maximum number of user variables that can be created in FM 8?
The FM help says that the maximum number of characters in a variable
definition is 255, but does not specify the maximum number of variables.


Thanks,
Diane
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Setting FM markers for external links

[Jon Harvey]

Everyone,



Our processes include importing FM 9.0 files into MadCap Flare to create
online help. Many of these docs we develop in FrameMaker include URLs to
Web pages that we would like to have open in their own browser window
(not in the online help window). The problem is that each time we import
into Flare, we have to add a target="myURL.htm" attribute to each 
tag. Is there a hypertext marker in FM that will enable us to "set it
and forget it" so we don't have to change the  tag each time? I've
tried solving this problem on the Flare side by modifying the CSS but
there is apparently no such CSS attribute that will do this.





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354

Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Lynne A. Price]

At 11:14 AM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute 
>settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be 
>imported across the book from one chapter like conditional text can.  I'm 
>told that there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently 
>FS cannot solve this problem.

Diane,
   I'm not sure what you mean here. It is true that importing formats from 
one document to others (including those in a book) does not import the 
definition of attribute expressions used by filter-by-attribute; nor does 
it apply the filter used in the source to the destination documents. 
However, at least in FM9, the FDK can do so.
 --Lynne



Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 

Captivate User Group?

[barry.kief...@jeppesen.com]

Is there a group like this just for Captivate?

Like so many tech writers, I am asked at times to create tutorials and 
training materials.

I have learned so much just monitoring this list, a captivate list would 
be the bees knees.


Regards,
Barry Kieffer
Technical Writer
Internet, Military, and Consumer 
__
Jeppesen
A Boeing Company

Captivate User Group?

[Writer]

There seems to be one on Yahoo groups, but it doesn't look very active: 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/captivateusergroup/

There is also the Denver Metro E-learners Developers group: 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dmeld/

And finally, the Captivate forum on the Adobe site: 
http://forums.adobe.com/community/adobe_captivate

HTH or at least gets you started,

Nadine

Barry.Kieffer at jeppesen.com wrote:
> Is there a group like this just for Captivate?
>
> Like so many tech writers, I am asked at times to create tutorials and 
> training materials.
>
> I have learned so much just monitoring this list, a captivate list would 
> be the bees knees.
>
>
> Regards,
> Barry Kieffer
> Technical Writer
> Internet, Military, and Consumer 
> __
> Jeppesen
> A Boeing Company
>
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Maximum number of variables in FM?

[Diane Gaskill]

Hi Lynne,

If I read your message correctly, FM9 has a function in the FDK that can
import filter-by-attribute settings.  Please confirm.  This will solve a
major problem for us.

Thanks lots,
Diane

-Original Message-
From: Lynne A. Price [mailto:lpr...@txstruct.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:30 PM
To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Maximum number of variables in FM?


At 11:14 AM 10/28/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Even more challenging, to put it nicely, because profile attribute
>settings (the DocBook XML equivalent of conditional text) cannot be
>imported across the book from one chapter like conditional text can.  I'm
>told that there is no function in the FDK that can do this, so apparently
>FS cannot solve this problem.

Diane,
   I'm not sure what you mean here. It is true that importing formats from
one document to others (including those in a book) does not import the
definition of attribute expressions used by filter-by-attribute; nor does
it apply the filter used in the source to the destination documents.
However, at least in FM9, the FDK can do so.
 --Lynne



Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development,
and training
lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284

SGML Parsing error - ATA iSpec 2200

[COTRONEO Tracey]

Hi

I'm working with several ATA iSpec 2200 DTDs and trying to save my .fm
files to SGML and receiving the following error:

   "End tag (para) implied by the start tag (revst); not declared
minimizable"

This is my sgml output:





Installations of the APU Generator



Replace the .



Make sure the ...




Torque the nuts .







The  and  elements are inclusions in the DTD and are
defined as:





Please HELP ME!


regards

Tracey Cotroneo

Technical Publication Specialist

BAE Systems Australia


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Crossreferences in text frames in anchored frames--way to preserve them when converting to HTML?

[Brian C. Keith]

Is there a way to preserve crossreferences in text frames in anchored 
frames, which FM converts to raster images in converted HTML?

I have a bunch of legacy FM source files that contain crossreferences in 
anchored frames, and they're lost when I use the FM's built-in 
FM-to-HTML conversion tool as well as WebWorks  FM-to-HTML conversion tool.

Does anyone know of a way that I can retain these crossreferences when 
converting to HTML? I've searched the Web to no avail. Suggestions? Help?

Thanks!

-briank

Cursor blink rate affects FrameMaker stability?

[JX Consulting]

Three writers on my team reported too-frequent crashes in FrameMaker  
8, especially notable because it crashed disproportionately during  
idle time. (As opposed to crashes during one of our extremely complex  
FrameScripts that run 20 minutes or more... those usually completed  
fine.) We do not have any fancy keystroke interception code in  
FrameScript. Well, not yet anyway, I have a plan for some soon. :-)  
So, I wouldn't expect that any of our code affects this Idle-Crash  
issue. So, anyway i noticed one of the writers had a cursor that was  
blinking weird, irregularly. I checked the windows  setting in:  Start  
-> Control Panel -> Keyboard -> Cursor Blink Rate.

His blink rate was set to the MAXIMUM setting. I set it down a couple  
notches. And his crashing problem went away! The two other writers  
checked their setting for that, and theirs were set to the MINIMUM  
setting (no blink). They set theirs UP a couple notches. And their  
crashing problems reportedly also went away too!

Perhaps this is superstitious, but these three writers believe this  
change was what made stability improve. It's possible this issue is  
specific to folks with FrameScript, I have no idea. We all use  
FrameScript.  I could easily imagine this being a system event Idle  
issue either in FrameMaker, FrameScript, or both.

Anyway, if you are having crashing problems in FrameMaker, try setting  
this setting to somewhere in the *middle* of the range and see if that  
helps. If this change reduces your crashes noticably, PLEASE REPLY on  
the forum to this post with more information about your configuration.  
For example, that would clarify whether this is unique to FM8 or  
affects FM9 also, and whether this affects non-FrameScript users!

Configuration for the team:
* Win XP SP3 32bit
   (except 1 writer w/ 64bit, who was 1 of the 3 with the issue)
* FrameMaker 8.0p277
* FrameScript 5.2R1 (some might be R2)

For the record, there are other writers on the team, including me, who  
weren't experiencing these crashes. At least two of us had middle-of- 
the-range settings for this value (and no "idle time" crashes), I'm  
not sure about the other two writers.

   -- JX Bell
  JX Consulting

problem with TOC colors

[stre...@rcn.com]

I just moved a series of books to a new template and for some reason, some of 
the TOC entries in one of the books appear red. They should all be blue. The 
hyperlink works. 

Any ideas what's wrong or how to fix it?

Thanks.

b2