OT: Use of "please" in technical documentation and messages on screen
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > Once I learned that you shouln't use the word "please" in technical > documentation - that it was like asking the reader to do you favor. I've just opened the Windows Help and Support Center (XP), did a search for "please", and found 15 articles (full-text search results); each article contains at least one instance. Looking at the first few, none of them make me feel as though Microsoft were asking me for a favour. You could repeat this experiment with other help systems available to you. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: OT: Use of "please" in technical documentation and messages on screen
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > Once I learned that you shouln't use the word "please" in technical > documentation - that it was like asking the reader to do you favor. I've just opened the Windows Help and Support Center (XP), did a search for "please", and found 15 articles (full-text search results); each article contains at least one instance. Looking at the first few, none of them make me feel as though Microsoft were asking me for a favour. You could repeat this experiment with other help systems available to you. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Developer documentation
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Carl Yorke wrote: > Now I need to write developer documentation, which doesn't make sense to > me. Is that *all* they told you? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: Developer documentation
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Carl Yorke wrote: > Now I need to write developer documentation, which doesn't make sense to > me. Is that *all* they told you? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
legal notice for new patent in docs?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:37 PM, obair wrote: > My boss is asking me to do some research to determine the "correct form of > legal notice for our patent and how it should be worded I'd ask the legal department. Where I work, they'd have to approve it anyway. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: legal notice for new patent in docs?
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:37 PM, obair wrote: > My boss is asking me to do some research to determine the "correct form of > legal notice for our patent and how it should be worded I'd ask the legal department. Where I work, they'd have to approve it anyway. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Procedure How to Write a Manual!
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Richard Melanson wrote: > I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss > today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he > also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand > what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. The first part about a procedure is not so far-fetched in a regulation and standards-rich environment. The procedure won't be a literal step-by-microcosmic step description of what happens, but it will set out the requirements of the process and final product. Your circumstances, however, may not be so heavy on the regulations and standards. That second part about "anyone can do it", though... that looks like the tip of some kind of iceberg. Is there someone else you can talk to in the organization who knows the context and players? Good luck. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Richard Melanson wrote: > I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss > today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he > also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand > what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. The first part about a procedure is not so far-fetched in a regulation and standards-rich environment. The procedure won't be a literal step-by-microcosmic step description of what happens, but it will set out the requirements of the process and final product. Your circumstances, however, may not be so heavy on the regulations and standards. That second part about "anyone can do it", though... that looks like the tip of some kind of iceberg. Is there someone else you can talk to in the organization who knows the context and players? Good luck. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TriZetto inquiry
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Will Husa wrote: > I'm new to this list. Milan Davidovic recommended that I seek your advice. Hi -- I saw Will's query over on techwr-l, did a search of my own archive and saw the TriZetto name come up on this list, and suggested to Will that he bring his query over here. Anyone finding this query to be too OT for this list should yell, if at all, at me. OK? And that said, I suppose I could have contacted people off list and asked if they'd be interested in replying to Will. I didn't think of it at the time, though, so here we are. TIA for helping Will out. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: TriZetto inquiry
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Will Husa wrote: > I'm new to this list. Milan Davidovic recommended that I seek your advice. Hi -- I saw Will's query over on techwr-l, did a search of my own archive and saw the TriZetto name come up on this list, and suggested to Will that he bring his query over here. Anyone finding this query to be too OT for this list should yell, if at all, at me. OK? And that said, I suppose I could have contacted people off list and asked if they'd be interested in replying to Will. I didn't think of it at the time, though, so here we are. TIA for helping Will out. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Dual page numbering
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:35 PM, John Sgammato wrote: > Our trainer wants to include both chapter-oriented numbering AND > absolute page numbering in training materials derived from my manuals. A bit OT, but did your trainer say why? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: Dual page numbering
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:35 PM, John Sgammato wrote: > Our trainer wants to include both chapter-oriented numbering AND > absolute page numbering in training materials derived from my manuals. A bit OT, but did your trainer say why? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How can I avoid having to rescale linked screen shots
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: > Stuart's advice is also important. After import into FM, never change > the size of a graphic by changing its scaling percentage. Are there hazards (other than the problem described at the start of this thread) that this advice is intended to avoid? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: How can I avoid having to rescale linked screen shots
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Combs, Richard wrote: > Stuart's advice is also important. After import into FM, never change > the size of a graphic by changing its scaling percentage. Are there hazards (other than the problem described at the start of this thread) that this advice is intended to avoid? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: > I'm certain that's not the case. I suspect Peter is correct -- someone > got clever, figured out how to enter a pilcrow in a dialog box (hex > code), and adopted this as a naming convention. Peter's test to determine this revealed it to be a naming convention. > It actually is a pretty clever way to distinguish char formats used only > in autonumbers (if that's how it's being used) and not intended to be > applied manually by writers. It's a shame the person taking over isn't as clever... > I assume these tags sort > to the bottom of the list (if not, then it's not so clever), so they're > out of the way of someone using the mouse. They do. Thanks again to everyone for their attention to this query... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Peter Gold wrote: > It is possible to use the pilcrow character in a FM format tag name. > Perhaps the document's creator used this as a convention. Ah... > To verify this, select some text tagged with this format and open the > Character Designer to see if the pilcrow appears in the Character Tag > text box. And it does -- thank you. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
And like a doofus I once again forgot to mention some details: Unstructured Frame 7.2 on Windows XP --Milan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Milan Davidovic wrote: > I thought that a pilcrow appearing before the tag name in character... etc.
pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
(I tried Google for the answer to this one, but with no luck; if you know how to make the answer appear, I'd be happy to know how too... ) I thought that a pilcrow appearing before the tag name in character catalog meant that the tag in question was used in a paragraph format, but I can't seem to make one appear there myself. Am I interpreting the pilcrow correctly? Might there be some reason why I can't get one to appear there myself? I made the para format, incorporated a char format, saved, closed the doc and Frame itself and reopened, but nothing new in the catalog. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Combs, Richard wrote: > I'm certain that's not the case. I suspect Peter is correct -- someone > got clever, figured out how to enter a pilcrow in a dialog box (hex > code), and adopted this as a naming convention. Peter's test to determine this revealed it to be a naming convention. > It actually is a pretty clever way to distinguish char formats used only > in autonumbers (if that's how it's being used) and not intended to be > applied manually by writers. It's a shame the person taking over isn't as clever... > I assume these tags sort > to the bottom of the list (if not, then it's not so clever), so they're > out of the way of someone using the mouse. They do. Thanks again to everyone for their attention to this query... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Peter Gold wrote: > It is possible to use the pilcrow character in a FM format tag name. > Perhaps the document's creator used this as a convention. Ah... > To verify this, select some text tagged with this format and open the > Character Designer to see if the pilcrow appears in the Character Tag > text box. And it does -- thank you. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
And like a doofus I once again forgot to mention some details: Unstructured Frame 7.2 on Windows XP --Milan On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Milan Davidovic wrote: > I thought that a pilcrow appearing before the tag name in character... etc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
pilcrow before tag name in character catalog
(I tried Google for the answer to this one, but with no luck; if you know how to make the answer appear, I'd be happy to know how too... ) I thought that a pilcrow appearing before the tag name in character catalog meant that the tag in question was used in a paragraph format, but I can't seem to make one appear there myself. Am I interpreting the pilcrow correctly? Might there be some reason why I can't get one to appear there myself? I made the para format, incorporated a char format, saved, closed the doc and Frame itself and reopened, but nothing new in the catalog. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: correct symbol to use
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > If you have in a line of text something like "to any of 1 (a)-(c)", is this > more correctly set as "to any of 1 (a)...(c)"? Take a look at the en dash; it might be what you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_dash#En_dash -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: OT: correct symbol to use
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > If you have in a line of text something like "to any of 1 (a)-(c)", is this > more correctly set as "to any of 1 (a)...(c)"? Take a look at the en dash; it might be what you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_dash#En_dash -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Layoffs and Frame 9?
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:18 PM, John Hedtke wrote: > Does anyone know if the Adobe layoffs are... Adobe? Layoffs? Googlegooglegoogle... here we go, in case anyone else hadn't heard and wants to read up: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=adobe+layoff&meta= -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: Layoffs and Frame 9?
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:18 PM, John Hedtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know if the Adobe layoffs are... Adobe? Layoffs? Googlegooglegoogle... here we go, in case anyone else hadn't heard and wants to read up: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=adobe+layoff&meta= -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
applying conditional text to a list
Hi all, I'm not trying to drive traffic to my blog, but I found it easier to set up my question there and then ask people here to go over to have a look. http://altmilan.blogspot.com/2008/11/framemaker-applying-conditional-text-to.html Your thoughts (here or there) would be most welcome. Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
applying conditional text to a list
Hi all, I'm not trying to drive traffic to my blog, but I found it easier to set up my question there and then ask people here to go over to have a look. http://altmilan.blogspot.com/2008/11/framemaker-applying-conditional-text-to.html Your thoughts (here or there) would be most welcome. Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RANT: FrameMaker's "help" function
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Is anyone else as annoyed by FrameMaker's useless help function as I am? I don't actually get mad anymore until I can't find the answer *anywhere*. Is this what you're looking for? http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/planners/frame/frame_tables.html#PageBreak -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: RANT: FrameMaker's "help" function
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Deirdre Reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone else as annoyed by FrameMaker's useless help function as I am? I don't actually get mad anymore until I can't find the answer *anywhere*. Is this what you're looking for? http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/planners/frame/frame_tables.html#PageBreak -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDFs -- to tag or not
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:41 AM, wrote: > My experience has been very weird with this. FrameMaker 8 (latest > patches) and Acrobat 8 Pro (latest patches) Interesting -- though in my case I'm on FM 7.2 and the issue I'm facing isn't in FM or Acrobat themselves, but with another piece of software that works with PDFs. Thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
PDFs -- to tag or not
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > If the PDF is tagged, it's easier to go to specific parts/paras of it > from outside sources. Like if you were doing context sensitive help > and wanted to map to a specific location within the PDF. Thanks -- can you think of any circumstances in which tags would be *detrimental*? I know that sounds like a weird question; the story of why I'm asking isn't all that interesting... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
PDFs -- to tag or not
I've just been reading in the FM help file about why one would select "Generate Tagged PDF" -- but are there any circumstances under which we'd want to clear it? I.e. is tagging sometimes undesireable? Thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: PDFs -- to tag or not
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:41 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My experience has been very weird with this. FrameMaker 8 (latest > patches) and Acrobat 8 Pro (latest patches) Interesting -- though in my case I'm on FM 7.2 and the issue I'm facing isn't in FM or Acrobat themselves, but with another piece of software that works with PDFs. Thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDFs -- to tag or not
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the PDF is tagged, it's easier to go to specific parts/paras of it > from outside sources. Like if you were doing context sensitive help > and wanted to map to a specific location within the PDF. Thanks -- can you think of any circumstances in which tags would be *detrimental*? I know that sounds like a weird question; the story of why I'm asking isn't all that interesting... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDFs -- to tag or not
I've just been reading in the FM help file about why one would select "Generate Tagged PDF" -- but are there any circumstances under which we'd want to clear it? I.e. is tagging sometimes undesireable? Thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
InDesign as a replacement for Framemaker
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Sgammato wrote: > For example, I guess there is a plug-in that can handle cross references? > That would be helpful, but I don't know what it is or how to get it. Try http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=crin (only heard of it, haven't used it) -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
reply to copy/paste Greek... ?
I found this post: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-February/010852.html but can find no reply. I've got a similar situation; any ideas of what to try? Thanks in advance... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
reply to copy/paste Greek... ?
I found this post: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-February/010852.html but can find no reply. I've got a similar situation; any ideas of what to try? Thanks in advance... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
character formatting and x-ref'd text
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Milan Davidovic wrote: > I'm looking at some legacy document in which the character formatting > does come across in the x-ref'd text, but I can't see how to make it > happen in my File B. What can I check to see where the difference is > between the two? Just answered my own question... In the test files I set up, the character tag I used was Emphasis (the default one in my installation of Frame), which changed to angle to Italic. In the legacy file I'm looking at, the character tag uses a different font altogether. So, even when applied with a character tag, bold or italic formatting does not come through on the x-ref. A different font, however, will. Perhaps this is what Shlomo was trying to explain and I just didn't get it. Thanks again. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
character formatting and x-ref'd text
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Shlomo Perets wrote: > In the context of cross-references, <$paratext> ignores character formatting > present in the source paragraph text, except superscript, subscript and font > family properties, which are retained only if applied through a character > tag. If I understand you correctly, the text in File A should appear in File B with the formatting (applied with a tag) intact. Somehow, though, it isn't, so something is wrong. Any idea of where I can look to find it? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: character formatting and x-ref'd text
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking at some legacy document in which the character formatting > does come across in the x-ref'd text, but I can't see how to make it > happen in my File B. What can I check to see where the difference is > between the two? Just answered my own question... In the test files I set up, the character tag I used was Emphasis (the default one in my installation of Frame), which changed to angle to Italic. In the legacy file I'm looking at, the character tag uses a different font altogether. So, even when applied with a character tag, bold or italic formatting does not come through on the x-ref. A different font, however, will. Perhaps this is what Shlomo was trying to explain and I just didn't get it. Thanks again. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: character formatting and x-ref'd text
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the context of cross-references, <$paratext> ignores character formatting > present in the source paragraph text, except superscript, subscript and font > family properties, which are retained only if applied through a character > tag. If I understand you correctly, the text in File A should appear in File B with the formatting (applied with a tag) intact. Somehow, though, it isn't, so something is wrong. Any idea of where I can look to find it? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
character formatting and x-ref'd text
File A has a paragraph. Some text in this paragraph is formatted with a character tag. In File B, I create a <$paratext> type x-ref to bring in this paragraph. The character formatting, however, doesn't appear. Files A and B have indentical formats, etc. (imported from A into B just to make sure). I'm looking at some legacy document in which the character formatting does come across in the x-ref'd text, but I can't see how to make it happen in my File B. What can I check to see where the difference is between the two? Many thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
character formatting and x-ref'd text
File A has a paragraph. Some text in this paragraph is formatted with a character tag. In File B, I create a <$paratext> type x-ref to bring in this paragraph. The character formatting, however, doesn't appear. Files A and B have indentical formats, etc. (imported from A into B just to make sure). I'm looking at some legacy document in which the character formatting does come across in the x-ref'd text, but I can't see how to make it happen in my File B. What can I check to see where the difference is between the two? Many thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How FM use impacts purchasing decisions
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer wrote: > At one point earlier this Spring, Microsoft was considering extending > their cutoff date for XP beyond June 30th because of the uproar from > the business community. I guess that must not have happened, but > before you sink money into a VISTA-only machine, I'd double-check the > validity of that rumor. Here's some information that may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp#Support_lifecycle -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: How FM use impacts purchasing decisions
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At one point earlier this Spring, Microsoft was considering extending > their cutoff date for XP beyond June 30th because of the uproar from > the business community. I guess that must not have happened, but > before you sink money into a VISTA-only machine, I'd double-check the > validity of that rumor. Here's some information that may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_xp#Support_lifecycle -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
disagreement on overrides
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Milan Davidovic wrote: > Have any of you been on either side of such a difference in approach, > and how did you go about resolving it? OK, there are some good, constructive ideas here -- lots to think about. Thank you. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: disagreement on overrides
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have any of you been on either side of such a difference in approach, > and how did you go about resolving it? OK, there are some good, constructive ideas here -- lots to think about. Thank you. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
disagreement on overrides
The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use onscreen). Right now, we're the only two writers working on the doc set in question. Have any of you been on either side of such a difference in approach, and how did you go about resolving it? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
disagreement on overrides
The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use onscreen). Right now, we're the only two writers working on the doc set in question. Have any of you been on either side of such a difference in approach, and how did you go about resolving it? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
table and figure captions
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Jerilynne Knight wrote: > I create a table format specifically to hold graphics. Is this in structured or unstructured Frame? If the latter, can anyone see a problem with doing it in the former? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: table and figure captions
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Jerilynne Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I create a table format specifically to hold graphics. Is this in structured or unstructured Frame? If the latter, can anyone see a problem with doing it in the former? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Basic question- Visio to Frame
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell wrote: > If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic > format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file. When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: Basic question- Visio to Frame
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I were you, I'd print to a PDF from Visio or SaveAs a graphic > format from Visio and import the resulting file as a referenced file. When I had to do this (a couple of years ago), I was advised to save the Visio diagram as a .wmf file, and then import that. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Marketing a product: which language for the documentation
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM, mathieu jacquet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have any idea of official (governmental) documents about this kind of > issue (Europe and/or US)? What regulations does your client's product have to comply with? Knowing that should point you in the right direction. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Marketing a product: which language for the documentation
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM, mathieu jacquet wrote: > Do you have any idea of official (governmental) documents about this kind of > issue (Europe and/or US)? What regulations does your client's product have to comply with? Knowing that should point you in the right direction. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
RE turkish sortorder
Problem solved; the answer is in the User Guide, and it's fairly clear. I had to look up the Danish alphabet, then use it on the reference page to re-order the index group titles and to replace the <$alphabetics> building block. Of course, if someone knows an easier way I could have done this, or knows of any pitfalls inherent in changing sort order (other than the obvious one of getting the order wrong), you response would be helpful. Thanks again... Milan On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Milan Davidovic wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Anneke von den Hoff > wrote: >> Hi Ann, >> Thank you very much for the example. >> I have implemented your example in my document and it works fine! > > My inbox does not show the response to which you refer; I've got a > similar problem with Danish.
RE turkish sortorder
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Anneke von den Hoff wrote: > Hi Ann, > Thank you very much for the example. > I have implemented your example in my document and it works fine! My inbox does not show the response to which you refer; I've got a similar problem with Danish. Can we have responses to such questions ON the list, please? Many thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: RE turkish sortorder
Problem solved; the answer is in the User Guide, and it's fairly clear. I had to look up the Danish alphabet, then use it on the reference page to re-order the index group titles and to replace the <$alphabetics> building block. Of course, if someone knows an easier way I could have done this, or knows of any pitfalls inherent in changing sort order (other than the obvious one of getting the order wrong), you response would be helpful. Thanks again... Milan On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Anneke von den Hoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Ann, >> Thank you very much for the example. >> I have implemented your example in my document and it works fine! > > My inbox does not show the response to which you refer; I've got a > similar problem with Danish. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE turkish sortorder
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Anneke von den Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ann, > Thank you very much for the example. > I have implemented your example in my document and it works fine! My inbox does not show the response to which you refer; I've got a similar problem with Danish. Can we have responses to such questions ON the list, please? Many thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framemaker Class
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Just to be clear, I'm looking for names of companies. I can travel to > Atlanta, Birmingham, and Washington DC. (and other places in the > Southeast) Try searching here: http://partners.adobe.com/public/partnerfinder/tp/show_find.do -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: Framemaker Class
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Deirdre Reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to be clear, I'm looking for names of companies. I can travel to > Atlanta, Birmingham, and Washington DC. (and other places in the > Southeast) Try searching here: http://partners.adobe.com/public/partnerfinder/tp/show_find.do -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Large FM File
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Neil Tubb wrote: > I was always taught that > splitting it out one file per chapter was the safest and best way to go, > but I've just seen an example of the one large file approach. Does > anyone else do this? Just curious. I'm also curious -- did someone offer you a rationale for the OHF (one huge file)? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: Large FM File
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Neil Tubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was always taught that > splitting it out one file per chapter was the safest and best way to go, > but I've just seen an example of the one large file approach. Does > anyone else do this? Just curious. I'm also curious -- did someone offer you a rationale for the OHF (one huge file)? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
site down
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow wrote: > It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up > "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-) Is there an "official" date that it has been down since? Just curious... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: site down
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up > "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-) Is there an "official" date that it has been down since? Just curious... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
import only one
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Milan Davidovic wrote: > Is there a way (including scripts, plugins, etc.) of importing only > the one that I want? Many good suggestions on and off list -- thanks to everyone who replied. I've got two scenarios: - the desired format does not exist in the current document. - the desired format exists in name only in the current document (i.e. the settings are wrong). I think from the various answers I've gotten I can work out efficient solutions for each. Thanks again. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
import only one
I couldn't think of good terms for searching for this answer using Google -- suggestions are welcome... I'm in Frame 7.2 on Windows. When I want to import, say, one paragraph format from another FrameMaker file into the one I'm working in, I go File > Import > Formats and then select Paragraph Formats, importing *all* the paragraph formats from that other file. Is there a way (including scripts, plugins, etc.) of importing only the one that I want? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: import only one
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way (including scripts, plugins, etc.) of importing only > the one that I want? Many good suggestions on and off list -- thanks to everyone who replied. I've got two scenarios: - the desired format does not exist in the current document. - the desired format exists in name only in the current document (i.e. the settings are wrong). I think from the various answers I've gotten I can work out efficient solutions for each. Thanks again. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
import only one
I couldn't think of good terms for searching for this answer using Google -- suggestions are welcome... I'm in Frame 7.2 on Windows. When I want to import, say, one paragraph format from another FrameMaker file into the one I'm working in, I go File > Import > Formats and then select Paragraph Formats, importing *all* the paragraph formats from that other file. Is there a way (including scripts, plugins, etc.) of importing only the one that I want? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Long running headers
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Lester C. Smalley wrote: > Another trick is to make TWO header text frames - one on each side of > the master page (tall enough for two lines of text), and two header > paragraph format Header Left and Header Right, so I can independently > set font properties, justification, spacing, etc. for the different > pieces of data I'm pulling in from the text. That's a good one for my upcoming project -- many thanks for that... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Long running headers
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Make the master page text frame tall enough so that you can see the second > line. And sure enough -- in checking the text frame in question against others, it is indeed higher. Many thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Long running headers
I've inherited this Frame book. There's a master page that has two running header variables in the header, one for the chapter title and the other for the current heading 1. On one of the pages in the manual, both the chapter title and the heading 1 are long. Whoever last modified this book managed to get the text for the heading 1 to wrap so that it looks something like this: Blah blah blah blah blahYadda yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda but I don't know where to look to see how they did this. It has come undone so that the second line of the text on the right has disappeared. I must restore this. Changing the text of either the chapter title or the heading is not an option, and att this time in the project I prefer not to get into playing with font sizes. Your wisdom and guidance, please & thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: Long running headers
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Lester C. Smalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another trick is to make TWO header text frames - one on each side of > the master page (tall enough for two lines of text), and two header > paragraph format Header Left and Header Right, so I can independently > set font properties, justification, spacing, etc. for the different > pieces of data I'm pulling in from the text. That's a good one for my upcoming project -- many thanks for that... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Long running headers
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Rick Quatro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Make the master page text frame tall enough so that you can see the second > line. And sure enough -- in checking the text frame in question against others, it is indeed higher. Many thanks... -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Long running headers
I've inherited this Frame book. There's a master page that has two running header variables in the header, one for the chapter title and the other for the current heading 1. On one of the pages in the manual, both the chapter title and the heading 1 are long. Whoever last modified this book managed to get the text for the heading 1 to wrap so that it looks something like this: Blah blah blah blah blahYadda yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda but I don't know where to look to see how they did this. It has come undone so that the second line of the text on the right has disappeared. I must restore this. Changing the text of either the chapter title or the heading is not an option, and att this time in the project I prefer not to get into playing with font sizes. Your wisdom and guidance, please & thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Fonts for Turkish?
On 4/3/08, Milan Davidovic wrote: > Are any of you creating documents in Turkish? If so, what font(s) are you > using? Many thanks to all who replied on and off-list. My first line of attack is to try Dieter's idea and get the fonts we already have working more fully for us. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: Fonts for Turkish?
On 4/3/08, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are any of you creating documents in Turkish? If so, what font(s) are you > using? Many thanks to all who replied on and off-list. My first line of attack is to try Dieter's idea and get the fonts we already have working more fully for us. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Fonts for Turkish?
Tried this already on techwr-l, with no replies. As I'm working in Frame perhaps some of you can reply. Are any of you creating documents in Turkish? If so, what font(s) are you using? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Fonts for Turkish?
Tried this already on techwr-l, with no replies. As I'm working in Frame perhaps some of you can reply. Are any of you creating documents in Turkish? If so, what font(s) are you using? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
also working with images
On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham wrote: > If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for press, EPS is > really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other graphics > format, Frame passes the graphics through the Windows GDI when creating > Postscript. CMYK graphics are converted to RGB in the process and colors may > change. EPS is passed around the Windows GDI and maintains original colors. Slightly OT, but for comparison purposes -- does InDesign do this as well? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: also working with images
On 2/4/08, Mike Wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're on the Windows platform, and creating documents for press, EPS is > really the only way to go for color graphics. With every other graphics > format, Frame passes the graphics through the Windows GDI when creating > Postscript. CMYK graphics are converted to RGB in the process and colors may > change. EPS is passed around the Windows GDI and maintains original colors. Slightly OT, but for comparison purposes -- does InDesign do this as well? Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
also working with images
I've inherited responsibility for some Frame docs. Almost all of the images are .eps created in Illustrator and .jpg modified in Photoshop (there are matching.psd files for the .jpg files). These images are imported by reference, and the Frame docs only get PDF'd (no Help, web, etc.). What about using the .ai and .psd files directly? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
also working with images
I've inherited responsibility for some Frame docs. Almost all of the images are .eps created in Illustrator and .jpg modified in Photoshop (there are matching.psd files for the .jpg files). These images are imported by reference, and the Frame docs only get PDF'd (no Help, web, etc.). What about using the .ai and .psd files directly? -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
taking an image out of an anchored frame
On 11/20/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > Have I come across something useful or something I should avoid? And > if I wanted to read what others have said about this on the Web, what > search terms would you suggest? "Remove * from anchored frame" gives > me nothing on Google. Many thanks to Stuart Rogers, Mike Wickham, and Maxwell Hoffmann for their timely and thorough replies. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
Re: taking an image out of an anchored frame
On 11/20/07, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have I come across something useful or something I should avoid? And > if I wanted to read what others have said about this on the Web, what > search terms would you suggest? "Remove * from anchored frame" gives > me nothing on Google. Many thanks to Stuart Rogers, Mike Wickham, and Maxwell Hoffmann for their timely and thorough replies. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
taking an image out of an anchored frame
I see that I can import an image (File > Import > File), move it outside the anchored frame, delete the anchored frame, and then have this apparently unanchored image just sitting there. I seem to be able to move it anywhere, though in some places it will cause the insertion point to move. Have I come across something useful or something I should avoid? And if I wanted to read what others have said about this on the Web, what search terms would you suggest? "Remove * from anchored frame" gives me nothing on Google. Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
taking an image out of an anchored frame
I see that I can import an image (File > Import > File), move it outside the anchored frame, delete the anchored frame, and then have this apparently unanchored image just sitting there. I seem to be able to move it anywhere, though in some places it will cause the insertion point to move. Have I come across something useful or something I should avoid? And if I wanted to read what others have said about this on the Web, what search terms would you suggest? "Remove * from anchored frame" gives me nothing on Google. Thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi all, Just to wrap this up, I decided to go with Rick's idea (below). Once I've added the pages, I don't have to think about them any more, and I'm more likely to have to regenerate PDFs of the book in which this file resides than to have to make changes to this particular file that affect pagination. That said, the other ideas have provided me good food for thought; thank you very much for the time you took to write them up and post them to the list or send them to me privately. --Milan On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Milan, > > Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). > Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured > FrameMaker, try this: > > 1) Open the document. > > 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. etc.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi all, Just to wrap this up, I decided to go with Rick's idea (below). Once I've added the pages, I don't have to think about them any more, and I'm more likely to have to regenerate PDFs of the book in which this file resides than to have to make changes to this particular file that affect pagination. That said, the other ideas have provided me good food for thought; thank you very much for the time you took to write them up and post them to the list or send them to me privately. --Milan On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Milan, > > Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). > Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured > FrameMaker, try this: > > 1) Open the document. > > 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. etc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? Hi all -- I'm getting various replies onlist and off; I'm replying offlist because the replies don't add much to the discussion. I'll summarize for the list later. Thanks to everyone so far. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? Hi all -- I'm getting various replies onlist and off; I'm replying offlist because the replies don't add much to the discussion. I'll summarize for the list later. Thanks to everyone so far. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Training
--- Mike Derryberry wrote: > I am in the market for introductory and advance > Framemaker training for about 10 students. Are you looking for a first-hand recommendation or just someone in the vicinity? If the latter, you could start here: http://partners.adobe.com/public/partnerfinder/tp/show_find.do However, my search for something directly in Dallas didn't return any results. But perhaps a nearby city would have something. Milan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Training
--- Mike Derryberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am in the market for introductory and advance > Framemaker training for about 10 students. Are you looking for a first-hand recommendation or just someone in the vicinity? If the latter, you could start here: http://partners.adobe.com/public/partnerfinder/tp/show_find.do However, my search for something directly in Dallas didn't return any results. But perhaps a nearby city would have something. Milan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
anticipating a move to Structured Frame
--- russ at weststreetconsulting.com wrote: > I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not > necessarily mean topic-based authoring, XML, > information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of > benefit from it without any of those things. Such as facilitating compliance with house style? Milan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
anticipating a move to Structrued Frame
--- "Ridder, Fred" wrote: > But the point remains that the best way to prepare > depends greatly on what your goals and objectives > are. Would it be possible to discuss "good" ways rather than "best" ones and keep it all at a fairly high level? Or perhaps everything at the high level has already been said and we can move on. Thanks... PS. "Structrued"... I just saw that: ack! Milan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
anticipating a move to Structrued Frame
--- Marcus Carr wrote: > Why do you want to go to structured data? Good question (and good thoughts on the question), but that's a different topic. For the purposes of this topic, let's imagine that the reasons are sound. And in case I forget to mention it later, thanks for all your answers. Milan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/2758 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
