Structured questions

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Joel:

1. If you click in a text line, it goes blank because the text lines are not
attached to structure.  Rather than using a text line or text frame, you
should keep everything connected in the structure.  That means adding
elements when more content is needed.  If you can clarify which of the Frame
8 templates you are using, I'd be happy to help you figure out the structure
and which element will produce the caption.  Our team made the templates so
I am familiar with most of the structures.

2. FrameMaker allows lines to break, unless you use the "hard space" you
mention below.  I don't know of a control.  You can control text spacing and
things like that to manually modify the text flow.

Good luck,

Kay


Kay Whatley
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Bright Path Solutions
1.919.244.8559
Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
Conferences website: http://conf.travelthepath.com
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-Original Message-
From: Joel
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:12 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Structured questions

Preface: I am trying to learn Structured Frame, XML and DITA - it's all new
to me.

1. I am using one of Frame 8's structured templates, and I inserted a
graphic. Now I want to add a caption, and I tried using a text line. the
Structure View window goes blank when I click on the text line. Do I need to
create an element to reflect this text line?

2. A general, dumb Frame question: How do I ensure that lines aren't
breaking, other than  + Spacebar between words?

Thanks,

JW

Print-out of Structured View window?

[Sales@Bright Path]

CUDSPAN used to have a "PrintTree" plug-in.  I think I've still got it
somewhere on my machine!  It was pretty cool, using indents to print the
whole structure tree for a doc.  However, the CUDSPAN site has been down for
months and I don't think it is distributed any more.

Kay


Kay Whatley
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Bright Path Solutions
1.919.244.8559
Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
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On 8/31/07, Lin Surasky  wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Is there a way (other than a screen shot, as they're long files) to 
> print out the contents of the Structure View window? I have some long, 
> system-generated XML files that I need to sift through and use pieces 
> of elsewhere. It'd help greatly to have a hard copy of the files, but 
> with certain levels collapsed so I can see what I'm doing. I'm 
> currently working with the file electronically, but even two monitors 
> is not enough, so I need to go to hard copy.
>
> TIA
> Lin

ANN: FrameMaker Read/Write Rules training -- class in September

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hello Framers:

We're holding a Structured FrameMaker Read/Write Rules class soon!  

This two day class focuses on writing rules that will get your FrameMaker
structured application working the way you need it to work.  The training
will be held September 18-19 in Raleigh, NC US. 

http://www.brightpathsolutions.com/pages/services/training/courses/FMK_ReadW
rite.html

Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

Thank you,

Kay


Kay Whatley
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Bright Path Solutions
1.919.244.8559
Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
Conferences website: http://conf.travelthepath.com 
SKYPE = kayper

Training

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Mike:

I'm with Bright Path, and we do FrameMaker training in public classes and at
client sites.  We can send one of our certified Frame trainers to you.  I
was in Dallas last month doing a class!

More info on our FrameMaker training is at
http://www.brightpathsolutions.com/pages/services/training/adobe.html.  A
custom agenda can be created to ensure we hit what your team needs, and in
the timeframe you need.

If you wish to discuss training at your site, I'm available this week at the
number below.  We can provide references and trainer information too.

Thank you,

Kay


Kay Ethier
kay at brightpathsolutions.com (NEW EMAIL)
Bright Path Solutions
1.919.244.8559
Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
Conferences website: http://conf.travelthepath.com
SKYPE = kayper






-Original Message-
From: Mike Derryberry

I am in the market for introductory and advance Framemaker training for
about 10 students.  I am looking for recommendations for training providers
that can come to my facility in the Dallas, Texas area to deliver the
training.  Any suggestions?

Mike Derryberry

ANN: Upcoming FrameMaker / technology classes

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hello Framers:

Below is a list of upcoming training and events that may be of interest to
FrameMaker users.  Classes are for regular FrameMaker, Structured
FrameMaker, DITA, XML, or authoring methodologies.


===
2007 TRAINING CLASSES
===

XML for Single Sourcing(TM)
* September 10-12

Topic Based Authoring: A Tool Independent Introduction
* Please call for available dates/locations.

Creating Usable Indexes: A Systematic Approach (not tool specific)
* October 29-30

Adobe FrameMaker: Authoring Unstructured Documents (FrameMaker Basics)
* August 6-7, September 24-25, December 3-4

Adobe FrameMaker: Template Development (Includes Advanced Features)
* Aug 8-10, September 26-28, December 5-7

Adobe FrameMaker Boot Camp(TM) ... INCLUDES Authoring and Template
Development/Advanced Features
* August 6-10, September 24-28, December 3-7

Adobe FrameMaker: Structured Authoring
* October 15-16

Adobe FrameMaker: Element Definition Documents (also round trip coverage)
* October 17-19

Adobe FrameMaker Structured Publishing Boot Camp(TM) ... INCLUDES Structured
Authoring and EDD classes
* October 15-19

Adobe FrameMaker: Read and Write Rules
* August 8-10

Adobe FrameMaker: Authoring in DITA
* August 13-14, September 17-18, October 11-12

Adobe FrameMaker: Template Development with DITA(TM)
* August 15-17, October 3-5

Adobe FrameMaker: EDD Development with DITA(TM)
* July 18-20

Adobe FrameMaker: DITA Publishing Boot Camp(TM) ... INCLUDES authoring and
development classes
* July 16-20

DITA Introduction: A Guided Tour of Tools and Tech(TM)
* July 23, August 30, October 9, November 15

DITA: Tools and Technology Overview
* August 6-7, September 17-18, November 8-9, December 13-14

WebWorks ePublisher Pro: An Introduction
* July 27, August 31

WebWorks ePublisher Pro: Customizing WebWorks Help
* August 2, September 27, November 12


===
2007 CONFERENCES
===

DITA 2007-East Conference
* October 4-6, 2007
* Raleigh, North Carolina USA
* http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/scheduleeast.shtml
* Platinum Sponsor PTC (Arbortext)

FrameMaker 2007 Chautauqua (conference)
* October 22-24, 2007
* Raleigh, North Carolina USA
* http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/chautschedule.html



Feel free to call if you have any questions regarding our training, or if
you wish to discuss a custom training class. We can combine any of the above
topics to train your team on the topics you need, when you need them.

Thank you,

Kay


Kay Ethier
kay at brightpathsolutions.com (NEW EMAIL)
Bright Path Solutions
1.919.244.8559
Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
Conferences website: http://conf.travelthepath.com
SKYPE = kayper
 

ANN: Upcoming conferences (DITA 2007-West, FrameMaker 2007 Chautauqua)

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hello:

Bright Path Solutions would like you to be aware of these upcoming
conferences.

(cross posted to frame and DITA listservs)

* DITA 2007-East
* October 4-6, 2007
* Raleigh, North Carolina USA
* http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/scheduleeast.shtml
* Platinum Sponsors: Astoria Software, and PTC (Arbortext)
* -- Featuring presentations on:  DITA intro, DITA Open Toolkit
installation, specialization, case studies, and much more!


* FrameMaker 2007 Chautauqua
* October 22-24, 2007
* Raleigh, North Carolina USA
* http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/chautschedule.html
* Platinum Sponsors: Adobe Systems
* -- Featuring presentations on: FrameMaker new features, FrameMaker
templates, Migrating to Structure, Getting Started with Structure, Advanced
Topics. Adobe Systems representatives will be on hand!


You might also want to check out:

* Extreme Markup Languages
* August 7-10, 2007
* Montr?al, Quebec Canada
* http://www.extrememarkup.com/extreme/


* LavaCon
* October 27?30, 2007
* New Orleans, Louisiana USA
* http://www.lavacon.org/


If you register by June 30, 2007:

* Use the code "POST06022007" to receive a $100 discount off of either
Bright Path conference
  OR
* Register for both conferences and save $200 on each with code
"COMBO06022007".


Thank you,

Kay

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Info on Structured FrameMaker / XML / XSLT jobs in North and South Carolina

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hello Framers:

Two of our clients are actively seeking Structured FrameMaker contractors
for full-time work.  One of the clients requires someone with XSLT
experience, while the other client requests XSLT experience.

If you are interested in working full time in either Raleigh/Durham NC or
Charleston SC, please email me (directly, not on list please) ASAP. Then, we
can provide more information on the positions/benefits.

Thank you,

Kay


Kay Ethier
Bright Path Solutions
PO Box 14265
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265
1.919.244.8559
FAX: 1.919.474.9223
URL: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
Conferences: http://conf.travelthepath.com
SKYPE = kayper

ANN: Final Call For Presenters (close in three days)

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi all:

Please note that the Calls For Presenters for these two conferences are
closing on Monday, April 30, 2007:



*   DITA 2007-East (October 4-6, 2007 in Raleigh NC USA) 

*   FrameMaker 2007 Chautauqua (October 22-24, 2007 in Raleigh NC USA) 

Presentation proposals may be submitted via this form:

http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/presproposal.html .  If you are interested
in presenting at one or both of these conferences, please send in your
proposal(s) ASAP.  If your company is planning to sponsor or exhibit, and
you wish to give a technical presentation, please use the same form and get
your presentation proposal in ASAP.

Benefits to speakers include promotion, free attendance, and the ability to
bring a colleague/guest to the conference at no charge.

Thank you,

Kay



Kay Ethier
Bright Path Solutions
PO Box 14265
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265
1.919.244.8559
FAX: 1.919.474.9223
URL:  
http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
Conferences:   http://conf.travelthepath.com
SKYPE = kayper

Framemaker classes?

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Dave:

Bright Path Solutions holds classes regularly in our North Carolina location
(structured and regular/unstructured FrameMaker). We also hold classes in
various cities throughout the US and Canada.

We also occassionally hold classes in conjunction with organizations like
the Society for Technical Communication.  I believe we have some training
coming up with the STC in Rochester, NY, for example.  If you have a local
organization with members interested in a local FrameMaker class, we'd be
happy to speak with their organizer regarding options we offer for a class
close to home.

Our general information is online at
http://www.brightpathsolutions.com/pages/services/training/adobe.html and
each class' page includes date/location information.  If you have questions
regarding our class content or locations, please feel free to contact me.



Thank you,

Kay


Kay Ethier
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
PO Box 14265
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265
1.919.244.8559
FAX: 1.919.474.9223
URL: http://www.travelthepath.com
Conferences: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
SKYPE = kayper





-Original Message-
From: Dave Kerschbaum

Hi all,

I'll be leaving my current position as a lone writer in a couple weeks and
want to make the transition as smooth as possible for the next person in
this position. Does anyone know of any decent FrameMaker classes or other
training that might be available to a company in the Great Lakes region?

Thanks,
dave.

Any conferences in January 2007

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hello:

The FrameMaker Chautauqua (conference) will be held in Fall 2007.  Dates are
still November TBD but will be set before the end of this year.  This year's
Frame conference is next week in Austin TX:
http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/chautindex.html .

In February 2007 there will be a DITA 2007 conference in San Jose that is
going to include some Structured FrameMaker presentations.  Info is being
posted to the same site as presentations are confirmed.

Thank you,

Kay


Kay Ethier
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
PO Box 14265
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265
1.919.244.8559
FAX: 1.919.474.9223
URL: http://www.travelthepath.com
Conferences: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
SKYPE = kayper






-Original Message-
From: Surbhi Singhal
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:46 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Any conferences in January 2007

Hello Framers

I was just curious if there are any international conferences lined up in
early next year related to Advanced Framemaker (EDD, XML).

Thanx for the information

Best Regards
Surbhi

paste special ...text option

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Pete:

This may be adjusted in the "maker.ini" file within your FrameMaker install
folder.  The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool
like Notepad and edit it. 

By moving TEXT to the start of the line:

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste
as text and you don't have to do Paste Special.

Good luck,

Kay

PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes.

.K.


Kay Ethier
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/




-Original Message-
From: Peter Rule

Hello framers,

Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the
"paste-special" option box.  "text" is currently third in the list and I
would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it).

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete
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Help Finding Engineering Publications???

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Scott:

What type of engineers do you mean?  Mechanical? Civil?  Software?  I have
worked with a lot of mechanical and civil engineers (when I was in
CAD/CAM/CAE).  There are specific industry publications, and we have a bunch
lying around at the office that I could get you info from.  Software
engineers read very different publications, in my experience.

Let me know more of what you are seeking and I'll get you some magazine
info.

Take care,

Kay





-Original Message-
From: Scott Abel

Do any Framers read engineering publications (online and print)? I'm looking
for some publications that might be interest to technical communicators and
engineers.

Ideas?


New Contact Information


The Content Wrangler, Inc.
Scott Abel, CEO
6178 Crittenden Avenue, Indianapolis, IN 46220
Office: +1 (317) 466.1840  Skype: abelsp
abelsp at netdirect.net   www.thecontentwrangler.com

Chris Despopoulos contact info?

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Anita:

Have you tried the telecable email address? I've cc'ed it here.  

Last I heard, Chris had moved back to the US but was still active with his
CUDSPAN stuff. If you catch up with him and he has new contact info, I would
like to have it as well.

Take care,

Kay


Kay Ethier
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
1.919.244.8559
FrameMaker & other conferences: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
SKYPE = kayper




-Original Message-
From: Gutierrez, Anita

I'm trying to contact Chris Despopoulos regarding TemplateMapper, and not
having much luck.  Is Chris out there?  Or can someone send me his current
e-mail address?

Thanks!

Anita Maria Gutierrez
Principle Curriculum Developer
Sage Software, Timberline Campus
15195 NW Greenbrier Parkway
Beaverton, Oregon 97006
(503) 439-7286

Schema tools

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Jon:

You can create directly in FrameMaker as an EDD, then can save as a DTD.
(If you need a schema, you can turn a DTD into a schema using several
tools... My favorite is TurboXML:
http://www.tibco.com/software/metadata/turboxml.jsp .

Or, to create the DTD or schema you can use tools like TurboXML, Oxygen,
etc.  Make either a DTD or a schema (depending on what your requirements
are) and then bring the DTD or schema into FrameMaker via File > Structure
Tools > Open DTD (or Open Schema). FrameMaker's EDD is created from that
imported element/attribute data and you can start adding your
formatties/template info.

If you need any additional clarification, feel free to reply.

Good luck,

Kay


Kay Ethier
Senior Trainer & Consultant
Bright Path Solutions
PO Box 14265
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709-4265
1.919.244.8559
FAX: 1.919.474.9223
URL: http://www.travelthepath.com
Conferences: http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/
SKYPE = kayper






-Original Message-
From: Jon Harvey
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:22 AM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Schema tools

Hi All,



We would like to begin developing in structured framemaker. My understanding
is that to do so, we need to bring in schema that FM can use to help us
structure our docs. Can anyone recommend some solid tools for creating
schema? It's either that or write the markup by hand, something I'd rather
not do.



Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation



CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140



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sorting translated tables

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Bill:

Unfortunately, this is a FrameMaker quirk and I think it has been in the
last 3 releases.  All xref markers go "poof" when you sort the table.
Unfortunately, the "fix" is to NOT do any sorting after you start placing
xrefs.

Russ or Scott, do you have any plug-ins that fix this?

Kay


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-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow

Hi everyone,

We ran into an interesting issue. When sorting a table, we are noticing that
the xrefs are broken after the sort. We're running into this a lot now that
our translations are coming back from the localizers (given the tables need
to be re-sorted based on the language rules).

Has anyone else noticed this broken xref issue when sorting tables
containing xrefs, and does anyone know a workaround other than manually
sorting the tables?

Thanks!

--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
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promotion

[Sales@Bright Path]

Actually, the Tri-XML conference for XML users is at
http://www.trixml.org/confindex.shtml 



-Original Message-
From: Bernard Aschwanden

Hi all:

If any of you are looking at Oxygen XML (http://www.oxygenxml.com/) please
let me know before you commit. I have a promotional offer that allows people
to save another 15%.

I'm not making anything off it. However, our company presents and shows this
and more at conferences (we'll be at TriXML [http://conf.travelthepath.com],
Doctrain [http://www.doctrain.com] and Lavacon [http://www.lavacon.org]).
SyncRO Soft wanted me to extend an offer to people who attend the
conferences or courses that I teach.

Workaround for marker character limit?

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Lynne:

Good suggestion, but with the number of markers with long entries, having
them do find/replaces each time they regenerate would be a pain.  They are
using XML and Structured Frame to automate processes, and having this
process break down is a serious glitch to them.  

With FrameMaker's UI limiting how the text is handled, even when it is
entered in the MIF, I don't think what FrameMaker offers is going to work.
I've put the client in touch with Scott Prentice and hopefully they will
connect and get a plug-in built that will overcome this limitation.

Thank you for the help!  See you in a few weeks at the conference.

Take care,

Kay

1.919.244.8559



-Original Message-
From: Lynne A. Price

Frank, Scott,
   Very interesting. I created a MIF file in which I inserted an Index
marker containing 900 characters and also a variable whose definition had
900 characters. I opened the MIF file and saved the result back to MIF. 
Both 900-character strings were still there, so the entire length indeed is
stored in the document.
   When I inserted the variable in the text, all 900 characters appear. 
However, when I created an index, only the first 255 characters from the
marker text appear in the index entry. Thus, getting all the text into the
marker isn't sufficient to create the desired index.

Kay,
   Do any of the very long index entries differ after the 255th character? 
If not, you might want to use an abbreviation of the full text in the 
markers, generate the index, and then do a global replace of the short 
names with their longer equivalents.
 --Lynne