On 21 Feb 2008, at 02:17, Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly
that will
do the following:
- Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS)
- Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet)
- Update the
I was looking around and I see there are several Windows scripting tools
out there.
Here are three good ones:
AutoHotkey - free, has a record macro feature like Word
AutoIt v3 - free, good reviews
Macro Express - $40
I like the record feature, so I'm trying AutoHotkey first.
Regards,
Shmuel
Framers,
I'm just full of questions this week.
I found Pgf Whopper, which lets me find and delete unused conditions on a
file basis, but I'd like to know if there's a way to find and delete them
throughout an entire book. My client has about 20 books and tons of
conditions, many seemingly
Hi Linda:
I'm doing something similar except I haven't got the version control
system part yet. I'm assured by the software guys that I can do this.
We're using the Python scripting language and the FDK.
As for generating PDFs, we had that bad link problem unless we used the
Create Named
Toolbox from SYSTEC SystemHaus will do that --- and much more.
(I've no association with them other than as a very satisfied customer)
www.systec-gmbh.com/toolbox
Grant
---
Grant Hogarth
Senior Technical Writer
Equis International - A
I use Rick Quatro's FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (FrameScript) for this and all
other book-level changes to formats, variables, etc. and LOVE IT.
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday,
Hmm. It doesn't say that it handles conditions on the sit, and a copy I have
for FM 7.0 does not. I did try to order it. I keep going around in circles,
though, in the ordering process and just sent an email to their customer
support.
Does it really handle conditions?
I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When
insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag
following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in
the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next
empty
My apologies --- it would appear that you are correct, and that I
misrepresented the product.
*sigh*
It works so well for all the other entities, I did not think to confirm
that it handled conditions. It appears that the version for FM8 *does*
handle conditions, but I can't swear to it.
My bad
Hi Mollye,
Just make sure that the paragraph which follows the text inset is not
empty (if possible).
If this option is not possible, for example, if the text inset is at
the end of your text flow, you can do this:
1. Put a new paragraph after the text inset.
2. In this paragraph, type
Hi Mollye
We have used unstructured insets and came across the same problem. As
far as I am aware, the only way to handle this problem is to avoid
consecutive insets. In our case, we ensure that insets represent an
entire section, and are always enclosed by heading tags. For example
Heading 1
Mollye Barrett wrote:
I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text
insets. When insets are imported into the target document,
the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically
becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset.
So, if the inset starts
Thanks all. You've jogged my memory with details and I'll give the fixes a
try on this doc set.
Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378
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We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 unstructured
insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove
Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the book for our output
formats.
Rene L. Stephenson
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DZBatcher,
http://www.datazone.com/dzbatcher2.html
is your friend.
kind regards
Peter Ring
Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
Framers,
A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will
do the following:
- Pull FM files and books from their version control system
I'm using FM 8.
I'll try the override tool and see what happens.
Thanks,
Mollye
We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2
unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph
Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the
It says on the page you provided below:
DZbatcher is currently available for Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Sun
Solaris 2.6 and AIX, and FrameMaker or FrameMaker+SGML (versions 5.5.6
or above), must be installed on your host system.
What about Windows XP and Vista? Are they supported?
Also, is
Rene Stephenson
We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM
7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon
Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides
immediately before generating the book for our output formats.
It's not a bug specific to 7.2,
Glad to learn that. (Had to dig the reply out of my spam folder where it had
gotten misrouted by my spam filter.)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Friends! Countrymen! Frame Users!
Good day to you from rainy southern Alabama! Thank to you Texas,
Loiusiana and Mississippi (which is ALWAYS fun to type!) for sharing
this rain-making event!
On to the question ---
In my Introduction, I have three interrelated elements:
A. a paragraph that
Systec doesn't, but this does:
* If you don't have FrameScript engine:
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm
* Even more powerful version if you do have FrameScript engine:
FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (from the same developer - ask Rick at
FrameExpert.com for pricing)
Hi Deirdre, from beautiful sunny-but-frosty-and-snowy-cold Ohio (where
we're never quite sure who to blame--er, THANK for sharing their weather
with us),
I'm not quite I understand why or how you want to use the cross
references, but I think maybe you're headed up the wrong alley. If I
understand
OK, bear with me - What about the situation where you have a text inset that's
just a sentence, and there's no trailing paragraph break in the inset, and you
want to use the sentence mid-paragraph elsewhere? I can't seem to get the inset
sentence to flow to the next sentence without a
I have about a dozen books of various ages, authors, formatting, etc.
The tag catalogs are different from file-to-file, and from book-to-book.
I am in the process of fixing this.
I want to make all Paragraph catalogs the same within all files. I know
the long ways to do this. Is there a bulk
You can certainly do it book-to-book.
And you can also add all the component files to a meta-book and update
them all in one pass. However, the FM method doesn't remove the old
tags -- it just updates.
So I'd look at CleanImport, which works with all formats, and also
removes the old ones -- a
First, in case Dov or someone else from Adobe doesn't step in here,
please observe that there is a legal limit to how you can use current
FrameMaker versions unattended without a server license
(http://www.adobe.com/products/fmserver/).
As far as I can tell, the AdobeĀ® FrameMakerĀ® Server 8
Ursula:
At Friday, 22/02/2008, 02:29 AM;, you wrote:
Hi, Headley
Hedley
I didn't see a reply to your very interesting question on the
list... [FrameMaker 8 won't import SVG graphics correctly] ... did
you get any useful feedback privately?
An Adobe employee emailed me that this was a bug
All:
Original SVG from Inkscape consists of a screen capture to PNG plus
some thin lines and some TrueType text.
@ Direct import of *.svg by FrameMaker = strange
white rectangles partially obscuring part of graphic.
Thickness of hair lines varies.
Appears to
You could also try Macro Express. Anyone have an idea of how AutoIT
compares to Macro Express (besides the price).
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Michael O'Neill wrote:
> You could probably do it with AutoIT, though it would take some practice
> to get right. If you have an engineer to work with,
On 21 Feb 2008, at 02:17, Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly
> that will
> do the following:
>
> - Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS)
>
> - Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet)
>
> - Update
I was looking around and I see there are several Windows scripting tools
out there.
Here are three good ones:
AutoHotkey - free, has a record macro feature like Word
AutoIt v3 - free, good reviews
Macro Express - $40
I like the record feature, so I'm trying AutoHotkey first.
Regards,
Shmuel
Framers,
I'm just full of questions this week.
I found Pgf Whopper, which lets me find and delete unused conditions on a
file basis, but I'd like to know if there's a way to find and delete them
throughout an entire book. My client has about 20 books and tons of
conditions, many seemingly
Hi Linda:
I'm doing something similar except I haven't got the version control
system part yet. I'm assured by the software guys that I can do this.
We're using the Python scripting language and the FDK.
As for generating PDFs, we had that bad link problem unless we used the
"Create Named
Toolbox from SYSTEC SystemHaus will do that --- and much more.
(I've no association with them other than as a very satisfied customer)
www.systec-gmbh.com/toolbox
Grant
---
Grant Hogarth
Senior Technical Writer
Equis International - A
I use Rick Quatro's FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (FrameScript) for this and all
other book-level changes to formats, variables, etc. and LOVE IT.
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Linda G. Gallagher
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent:
Hmm. It doesn't say that it handles conditions on the sit, and a copy I have
for FM 7.0 does not. I did try to order it. I keep going around in circles,
though, in the ordering process and just sent an email to their customer
support.
Does it really handle conditions?
I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When
insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag
following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in
the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next
empty
My apologies --- it would appear that you are correct, and that I
misrepresented the product.
*sigh*
It works so well for all the other entities, I did not think to confirm
that it handled conditions. It appears that the version for FM8 *does*
handle conditions, but I can't swear to it.
"My
Hi Mollye
We have used unstructured insets and came across the same problem. As
far as I am aware, the only way to handle this problem is to avoid
consecutive insets. In our case, we ensure that insets represent an
entire section, and are always enclosed by heading tags. For example
Heading 1
Hi Mollye,
Just make sure that the paragraph which follows the text inset is not
empty (if possible).
If this option is not possible, for example, if the text inset is at
the end of your text flow, you can do this:
1. Put a new paragraph after the text inset.
2. In this paragraph, type
Mollye Barrett wrote:
> I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text
> insets. When insets are imported into the target document,
> the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically
> becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset.
> So, if the inset starts
Thanks all. You've jogged my memory with details and I'll give the fixes a
try on this doc set.
Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378
We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 unstructured
insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove
Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the book for our output
formats.
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
DZBatcher,
http://www.datazone.com/dzbatcher2.html
is your friend.
kind regards
Peter Ring
Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
> Framers,
>
> A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will
> do the following:
>
> - Pull FM files and books from their version control
I'm using FM 8.
I'll try the override tool and see what happens.
Thanks,
Mollye
> We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2
> unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph
> Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the
Rene Stephenson
> We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM
> 7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon
> Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides
> immediately before generating the book for our output formats.
It's not a bug specific to 7.2,
It says on the page you provided below:
DZbatcher is currently available for Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Sun
Solaris 2.6 and AIX, and FrameMaker or FrameMaker+SGML (versions 5.5.6
or above), must be installed on your host system.
What about Windows XP and Vista? Are they supported?
Also, is
Glad to learn that. (Had to dig the reply out of my spam folder where it had
gotten misrouted by my spam filter.)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: "Combs, Richard"
To: Rene Stephenson ; mollye at clearpath.cc; framers at
lists.frameusers.com
Friends! Countrymen! Frame Users!
Good day to you from rainy southern Alabama! Thank to you Texas,
Loiusiana and Mississippi (which is ALWAYS fun to type!) for sharing
this rain-making event!
On to the question ---
In my Introduction, I have three interrelated elements:
A. a paragraph that
OK, bear with me - What about the situation where you have a text inset that's
just a sentence, and there's no trailing paragraph break in the inset, and you
want to use the sentence mid-paragraph elsewhere? I can't seem to get the inset
sentence to flow to the next sentence without a
Systec doesn't, but this does:
* If you don't have FrameScript engine:
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm
* Even more powerful version if you do have FrameScript engine:
FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (from the same developer - ask Rick at
FrameExpert.com for pricing)
Hi Deirdre, from beautiful sunny-but-frosty-and-snowy-cold Ohio (where
we're never quite sure who to blame--er, THANK for sharing their weather
with us),
I'm not quite I understand why or how you want to use the cross
references, but I think maybe you're headed up the wrong alley. If I
understand
I have about a dozen books of various ages, authors, formatting, etc.
The tag catalogs are different from file-to-file, and from book-to-book.
I am in the process of fixing this.
I want to make all Paragraph catalogs the same within all files. I know
the long ways to do this. Is there a bulk
In the past I used template mapper but can't seem to find it now.
Mollye
Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378
> I have about a dozen books of various ages, authors, formatting, etc.
> The tag catalogs are different from file-to-file, and from book-to-book.
> I am in the process of fixing
You can certainly do it book-to-book.
And you can also add all the component files to a meta-book and update
them all in one pass. However, the FM method doesn't remove the old
tags -- it just updates.
So I'd look at CleanImport, which works with all formats, and also
removes the old ones -- a
Rene Stephenson wrote:
> OK, bear with me - What about the situation where you have a
> text inset that's just a sentence, and there's no trailing
> paragraph break in the inset, and you want to use the
> sentence mid-paragraph elsewhere? I can't seem to get the
> inset sentence to flow to
In response to Rene Stephenson, Richard Combs wrote (in part):> A flow always
contains one or more pgfs. So a one-sentence flow is also
> a one-pgf flow; you can't avoid the pgf end. But you should be able to
> (I haven't tried it) define the source pgf as a Run-In Head so that
> there's no
Hi Les,
There's a great little tool called BookInfo by Bruce Foster that does just
this. It also gives you a word count (helpful when going for localization
quotes).
Susan A. Corcoran
Sr. Technical Writer
Honeywell Imaging and Mobility
700 Visions Drive
Skaneateles Falls, NY 13153
(p)
I delete unwanted files by running a search and deleting the found
files.
1.Press Start >> Search >> For Files or Folders >> All files and
folders >> All or part of the file name.
2.Type *.backup.* in the text box.
3.Press Search.
After finding all the files, highlight and
Put a tiny empty paragraph at the very beginning of the file/document
that you are 'insetting'
Regards,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
CBS Documentation
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.
Tel: (617) 273-5414
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
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Hi Framers,
A couple of weeks ago on this list I mentioned that I had developed a
freely available script (written in FrameScript) that gathers together
imported graphics and copies them into a dedicated graphics directory
while updating the links. The same script can also be used to copy a
I have encountered a strange problem
We are finishing a large book and we aren't ready to generate a TOC yet.
I have been getting an initial page count of each chapter in the book by
clicking the chapter and getting the number of pages without opening up
the chapter by looking at the bottom
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