Re: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Paul Findon
On 21 Feb 2008, at 02:17, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will do the following: - Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS) - Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet) - Update the

Re: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I was looking around and I see there are several Windows scripting tools out there. Here are three good ones: AutoHotkey - free, has a record macro feature like Word AutoIt v3 - free, good reviews Macro Express - $40 I like the record feature, so I'm trying AutoHotkey first. Regards, Shmuel

Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Framers, I'm just full of questions this week. I found Pgf Whopper, which lets me find and delete unused conditions on a file basis, but I'd like to know if there's a way to find and delete them throughout an entire book. My client has about 20 books and tons of conditions, many seemingly

Re: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread FeiMin_Lorente
Hi Linda: I'm doing something similar except I haven't got the version control system part yet. I'm assured by the software guys that I can do this. We're using the Python scripting language and the FDK. As for generating PDFs, we had that bad link problem unless we used the Create Named

RE: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Grant Hogarth
Toolbox from SYSTEC SystemHaus will do that --- and much more. (I've no association with them other than as a very satisfied customer) www.systec-gmbh.com/toolbox Grant --- Grant Hogarth Senior Technical Writer Equis International - A

Re: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
I use Rick Quatro's FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (FrameScript) for this and all other book-level changes to formats, variables, etc. and LOVE IT. Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message From: Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday,

RE: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Hmm. It doesn't say that it handles conditions on the sit, and a copy I have for FM 7.0 does not. I did try to order it. I keep going around in circles, though, in the ordering process and just sent an email to their customer support. Does it really handle conditions?

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Mollye Barrett
I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next empty

RE: SYSTEC Toolbox Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Grant Hogarth
My apologies --- it would appear that you are correct, and that I misrepresented the product. *sigh* It works so well for all the other entities, I did not think to confirm that it handled conditions. It appears that the version for FM8 *does* handle conditions, but I can't swear to it. My bad

Re: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Mollye, Just make sure that the paragraph which follows the text inset is not empty (if possible). If this option is not possible, for example, if the text inset is at the end of your text flow, you can do this: 1. Put a new paragraph after the text inset. 2. In this paragraph, type

RE: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Teasdale, Steven (GE Indust, ConsInd)
Hi Mollye We have used unstructured insets and came across the same problem. As far as I am aware, the only way to handle this problem is to avoid consecutive insets. In our case, we ensure that insets represent an entire section, and are always enclosed by heading tags. For example Heading 1

RE: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Mollye Barrett wrote: I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. So, if the inset starts

RE: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Mollye Barrett
Thanks all. You've jogged my memory with details and I'll give the fixes a try on this doc set. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the book for our output formats. Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message

Re: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Peter Ring
DZBatcher, http://www.datazone.com/dzbatcher2.html is your friend. kind regards Peter Ring Linda G. Gallagher wrote: Framers, A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will do the following: - Pull FM files and books from their version control system

Re: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Mollye Barrett
I'm using FM 8. I'll try the override tool and see what happens. Thanks, Mollye We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the

Re: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It says on the page you provided below: DZbatcher is currently available for Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Sun Solaris 2.6 and AIX, and FrameMaker or FrameMaker+SGML (versions 5.5.6 or above), must be installed on your host system. What about Windows XP and Vista? Are they supported? Also, is

RE: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Rene Stephenson We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the book for our output formats. It's not a bug specific to 7.2,

Re: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Glad to learn that. (Had to dig the reply out of my spam folder where it had gotten misrouted by my spam filter.) Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message From: Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com

question about cross-references

2008-02-21 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Friends! Countrymen! Frame Users! Good day to you from rainy southern Alabama! Thank to you Texas, Loiusiana and Mississippi (which is ALWAYS fun to type!) for sharing this rain-making event! On to the question --- In my Introduction, I have three interrelated elements: A. a paragraph that

Re: Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Systec doesn't, but this does: * If you don't have FrameScript engine: http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm * Even more powerful version if you do have FrameScript engine: FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (from the same developer - ask Rick at FrameExpert.com for pricing)

RE: question about cross-references

2008-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
Hi Deirdre, from beautiful sunny-but-frosty-and-snowy-cold Ohio (where we're never quite sure who to blame--er, THANK for sharing their weather with us), I'm not quite I understand why or how you want to use the cross references, but I think maybe you're headed up the wrong alley. If I understand

Re: style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
OK, bear with me - What about the situation where you have a text inset that's just a sentence, and there's no trailing paragraph break in the inset, and you want to use the sentence mid-paragraph elsewhere? I can't seem to get the inset sentence to flow to the next sentence without a

cleanup

2008-02-21 Thread Kelly McDaniel
I have about a dozen books of various ages, authors, formatting, etc. The tag catalogs are different from file-to-file, and from book-to-book. I am in the process of fixing this. I want to make all Paragraph catalogs the same within all files. I know the long ways to do this. Is there a bulk

Re: cleanup

2008-02-21 Thread Art Campbell
You can certainly do it book-to-book. And you can also add all the component files to a meta-book and update them all in one pass. However, the FM method doesn't remove the old tags -- it just updates. So I'd look at CleanImport, which works with all formats, and also removes the old ones -- a

Re: Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Peter Ring
First, in case Dov or someone else from Adobe doesn't step in here, please observe that there is a legal limit to how you can use current FrameMaker versions unattended without a server license (http://www.adobe.com/products/fmserver/). As far as I can tell, the AdobeĀ® FrameMakerĀ® Server 8

RE: FrameMaker 8 won't import SVG graphics correctly

2008-02-21 Thread Hedley Finger
Ursula: At Friday, 22/02/2008, 02:29 AM;, you wrote: Hi, Headley Hedley I didn't see a reply to your very interesting question on the list... [FrameMaker 8 won't import SVG graphics correctly] ... did you get any useful feedback privately? An Adobe employee emailed me that this was a bug

SOLUTION -- PERHAPS [was RE: FrameMaker 8 won't import SVG graphics correctly]

2008-02-21 Thread Hedley Finger
All: Original SVG from Inkscape consists of a screen capture to PNG plus some thin lines and some TrueType text. @ Direct import of *.svg by FrameMaker = strange white rectangles partially obscuring part of graphic. Thickness of hair lines varies. Appears to

Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
You could also try Macro Express. Anyone have an idea of how AutoIT compares to Macro Express (besides the price). Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Michael O'Neill wrote: > You could probably do it with AutoIT, though it would take some practice > to get right. If you have an engineer to work with,

Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Paul Findon
On 21 Feb 2008, at 02:17, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: > A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly > that will > do the following: > > - Pull FM files and books from their version control system (PVCS) > > - Maybe set conditions (not sure if this is needed yet) > > - Update

Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I was looking around and I see there are several Windows scripting tools out there. Here are three good ones: AutoHotkey - free, has a record macro feature like Word AutoIt v3 - free, good reviews Macro Express - $40 I like the record feature, so I'm trying AutoHotkey first. Regards, Shmuel

Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Framers, I'm just full of questions this week. I found Pgf Whopper, which lets me find and delete unused conditions on a file basis, but I'd like to know if there's a way to find and delete them throughout an entire book. My client has about 20 books and tons of conditions, many seemingly

Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread feimin_lore...@amis.com
Hi Linda: I'm doing something similar except I haven't got the version control system part yet. I'm assured by the software guys that I can do this. We're using the Python scripting language and the FDK. As for generating PDFs, we had that bad link problem unless we used the "Create Named

Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Grant Hogarth
Toolbox from SYSTEC SystemHaus will do that --- and much more. (I've no association with them other than as a very satisfied customer) www.systec-gmbh.com/toolbox Grant --- Grant Hogarth Senior Technical Writer Equis International - A

Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
I use Rick Quatro's FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (FrameScript) for this and all other book-level changes to formats, variables, etc. and LOVE IT. Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message From: Linda G. Gallagher To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent:

Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Hmm. It doesn't say that it handles conditions on the sit, and a copy I have for FM 7.0 does not. I did try to order it. I keep going around in circles, though, in the ordering process and just sent an email to their customer support. Does it really handle conditions?

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Mollye Barrett
I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text insets. When insets are imported into the target document, the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. So, if the inset starts with a numbered list, the next empty

SYSTEC Toolbox & Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Grant Hogarth
My apologies --- it would appear that you are correct, and that I misrepresented the product. *sigh* It works so well for all the other entities, I did not think to confirm that it handled conditions. It appears that the version for FM8 *does* handle conditions, but I can't swear to it. "My

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Teasdale, Steven (GE Indust, ConsInd)
Hi Mollye We have used unstructured insets and came across the same problem. As far as I am aware, the only way to handle this problem is to avoid consecutive insets. In our case, we ensure that insets represent an entire section, and are always enclosed by heading tags. For example Heading 1

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Mollye, Just make sure that the paragraph which follows the text inset is not empty (if possible). If this option is not possible, for example, if the text inset is at the end of your text flow, you can do this: 1. Put a new paragraph after the text inset. 2. In this paragraph, type

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Mollye Barrett wrote: > I'm working with an unstructured document set that uses text > insets. When insets are imported into the target document, > the empty paragraph tag following the inset automatically > becomes a repeat of the first style in the previous inset. > So, if the inset starts

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Mollye Barrett
Thanks all. You've jogged my memory with details and I'll give the fixes a try on this doc set. Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the book for our output formats. Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message

Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Peter Ring
DZBatcher, http://www.datazone.com/dzbatcher2.html is your friend. kind regards Peter Ring Linda G. Gallagher wrote: > Framers, > > A client would like to be able to have a script that runs nightly that will > do the following: > > - Pull FM files and books from their version control

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Mollye Barrett
I'm using FM 8. I'll try the override tool and see what happens. Thanks, Mollye > We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM 7.2 > unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon Prairie's Paragraph > Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides immediately before generating the

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Rene Stephenson > We have the same problem and have heard it's just a bug w/ FM > 7.2 unstructured insets. Our solution is to use Silicon > Prairie's Paragraph Tools to Remove Paragraph Overrides > immediately before generating the book for our output formats. It's not a bug specific to 7.2,

Scripting pulling FM files from version control and creating PDFs

2008-02-21 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
It says on the page you provided below: DZbatcher is currently available for Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, Sun Solaris 2.6 and AIX, and FrameMaker or FrameMaker+SGML (versions 5.5.6 or above), must be installed on your host system. What about Windows XP and Vista? Are they supported? Also, is

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Glad to learn that. (Had to dig the reply out of my spam folder where it had gotten misrouted by my spam filter.) Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message From: "Combs, Richard" To: Rene Stephenson ; mollye at clearpath.cc; framers at lists.frameusers.com

question about cross-references

2008-02-21 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Friends! Countrymen! Frame Users! Good day to you from rainy southern Alabama! Thank to you Texas, Loiusiana and Mississippi (which is ALWAYS fun to type!) for sharing this rain-making event! On to the question --- In my Introduction, I have three interrelated elements: A. a paragraph that

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
OK, bear with me - What about the situation where you have a text inset that's just a sentence, and there's no trailing paragraph break in the inset, and you want to use the sentence mid-paragraph elsewhere? I can't seem to get the inset sentence to flow to the next sentence without a

Deleting unused conditions throughout a book

2008-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Systec doesn't, but this does: * If you don't have FrameScript engine: http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm * Even more powerful version if you do have FrameScript engine: FindChangeFormatsBatch.fsl (from the same developer - ask Rick at FrameExpert.com for pricing)

question about cross-references

2008-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
Hi Deirdre, from beautiful sunny-but-frosty-and-snowy-cold Ohio (where we're never quite sure who to blame--er, THANK for sharing their weather with us), I'm not quite I understand why or how you want to use the cross references, but I think maybe you're headed up the wrong alley. If I understand

cleanup

2008-02-21 Thread Kelly McDaniel
I have about a dozen books of various ages, authors, formatting, etc. The tag catalogs are different from file-to-file, and from book-to-book. I am in the process of fixing this. I want to make all Paragraph catalogs the same within all files. I know the long ways to do this. Is there a bulk

cleanup

2008-02-21 Thread Mollye Barrett
In the past I used template mapper but can't seem to find it now. Mollye Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC 414-331-1378 > I have about a dozen books of various ages, authors, formatting, etc. > The tag catalogs are different from file-to-file, and from book-to-book. > I am in the process of fixing

cleanup

2008-02-21 Thread Art Campbell
You can certainly do it book-to-book. And you can also add all the component files to a meta-book and update them all in one pass. However, the FM method doesn't remove the old tags -- it just updates. So I'd look at CleanImport, which works with all formats, and also removes the old ones -- a

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Rene Stephenson wrote: > OK, bear with me - What about the situation where you have a > text inset that's just a sentence, and there's no trailing > paragraph break in the inset, and you want to use the > sentence mid-paragraph elsewhere? I can't seem to get the > inset sentence to flow to

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread Fred Ridder
In response to Rene Stephenson, Richard Combs wrote (in part):> A flow always contains one or more pgfs. So a one-sentence flow is also > a one-pgf flow; you can't avoid the pgf end. But you should be able to > (I haven't tried it) define the source pgf as a Run-In Head so that > there's no

Page count in a large book

2008-02-21 Thread susan_corco...@handheld.com
Hi Les, There's a great little tool called BookInfo by Bruce Foster that does just this. It also gives you a word count (helpful when going for localization quotes). Susan A. Corcoran Sr. Technical Writer Honeywell Imaging and Mobility 700 Visions Drive Skaneateles Falls, NY 13153 (p)

help needed with cleanfm batch file

2008-02-21 Thread Eason, David
I delete unwanted files by running a search and deleting the found files. 1.Press Start >> Search >> For Files or Folders >> All files and folders >> All or part of the file name. 2.Type *.backup.* in the text box. 3.Press Search. After finding all the files, highlight and

style following inset

2008-02-21 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
Put a tiny empty paragraph at the very beginning of the file/document that you are 'insetting' Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire CBS Documentation Comverse Inc. Cambridge, MA. Tel: (617) 273-5414 -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at

Ann: Web site with free scripts now on line

2008-02-21 Thread martin.sm...@golehtek.com
Hi Framers, A couple of weeks ago on this list I mentioned that I had developed a freely available script (written in FrameScript) that gathers together imported graphics and copies them into a dedicated graphics directory while updating the links. The same script can also be used to copy a

Book page count

2008-02-21 Thread Harold Winberg
I have encountered a strange problem We are finishing a large book and we aren't ready to generate a TOC yet. I have been getting an initial page count of each chapter in the book by clicking the chapter and getting the number of pages without opening up the chapter by looking at the bottom