On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 11:28 am, Paul Richards wrote:
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 11:25, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
We have programs in the ports tree which use our bsd.*.mk
infrastructure. Will there be a problem if such a program gets
installed
from ports (will it try to register itself
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 04:27 pm, Paul Richards wrote:
I was thinking of adding an option to install so it registers the file
in a plist rather than actually doing the install. A seperate make
plist target could then be used as a helper target to automate the
generation of plists.
I
On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 06:26 pm, Suleiman Souhlal wrote:
I was wondering if it would be a good idea to modify devd and devctl
for them to handle other events than attaching and detaching devices..
For example, they could be used to mark a network interface as down,
when the network
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 09:33:48AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
I'm just going to use this opportunity to plug the concept of temporary
sysctl-instrumentation for a commit like this.
Any thoughts on having a root oid for sysctl oids like this, so they're
not forgotten, and aren't
On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 05:16:26PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
Anyone making the usual plans or should I just look for the terminal room?
I'd recommend getting on to the mailing list with details at:
http://lists.csociety.org/listinfo/bsdcon/
where we're trying to keep announcements and
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 01:30:53AM +1030, Mike Gratton wrote:
However, I have previously thought that a system that used xml files to
store application configs (that would then be used to generate valid conf
files) would be useful.
I was on the verge of doing so the other day. Basically,
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:29:50AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
Miguel Mendez wrote:
Are you really serious about this? :) I've thought about that many
times, well, not with the registry paradigm, but some sort of graphical
admin tool based on GTK. I'm doing exams this week but may take a
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 05:22:48PM +0800, Kelvin Ng Chee Hoong wrote:
I have install FreeBSD 4.4 release but the system does not has bash
shell installed .where can I get this shell from CVS ? please advise .
Bash is not part of the base system. Either install it using the ports
tree;
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:25:29AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
So while you are correct that there is an account there, I can't
log into it right now, and I don't know to whom I should send
the passwd file line now that I'm able to do that, since the
changeover was long enough ago that the
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:45:37PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
Steve Kargl wrote:
It was posted to -current (see above).
man send-pr
A search of the GNATS databases with terry and lambert
returns zero hits. The freebsd-current mailing list is not
the preferred method for
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:23:35PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 02:53:21 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:25:37AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
Kris Kennaway wrote:
I know *you* have full-time IP connectivity to the internet and the
ability
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On Monday 11 June 2001 3:07 am, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 03:56:50 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
Please don't commit anything in the areas of subj. until I finish
rename to new locale names there.
Done. Feel free to
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:03:10AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
There's a snapshot of RELNOTESng for -CURRENT, updated irregularly,
at:
http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/
Like it.
My main concern is that this is in the src/ tree. As other people
have said this is going to complicate
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 09:58:43AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
This problem (which I agree is valid) is not so much a problem as to
where the release notes live, but the fact that one needs to actually
build human-readable renderings of them. If people can't be bothered
to install the
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:23:35PM -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote:
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 01:56:11AM +0100, Leif Neland scribbled:
| It seems pkg_update is only usable when installing from packages, not from
| ports.
Because it is a package update system. If you want to update
from the
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:28:57PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
Unless I'm missing something, which is certainly possible, it
seems to me that
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/makeworld.html
is missing some information that it used to have.
Send patches. When I wrote that section I
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 10:29:40AM -0400, Michael Lucas wrote:
(copied to -doc for reasons which will become clear below)
The FTP server no longer accepts uploads. Use uuencode and send-pr.
Many people put code submissions up on a local web site and request
comments on -current or
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 02:56:07PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
[redirected to just -current; I'm not sure what this has to do with -net]
I agree. I've been using them for a while on my dog slow Windows CE
machine. There were some minor issues when they were first committed
to NetBSD
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 10:32:53PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
We've also been forced by the
silicon valley personnel crunch to hire a new system administrator
who's a little strange (he refers to himself as "Elvis Preston" and
makes odd little hip-thrusts at the system rack when he thinks
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 04:44:41PM +0200, Reinier Bezuidenhout wrote:
Let me first ask ... do you use the "suspend/resume" option??
Yep.
This caused the same "lockup" every few seconds on my machine too -
a much slower 400 PII. As soon as I "shutdown" Win9X and rebooted
it worked fine.
I
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:48:20AM -0400, Brian A. Seklecki - Stargate Industries, LLC
- NOC wrote:
You're running vmware sucsessfully in --current?
Yes. -current from August 18th, and I'm running the vmware2-2.0.2.621 port.
Installing Win98 took about 4 hours though -- most of that was
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 07:58:26AM +0900, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote:
Sheldon can probably render an opinion on their usage of the macros.
OK, I'm looking forward to see it :-)
If he doesn't in the next couple of days (no pressure, Sheldon :-) ) then
go ahead and commit.
N
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Internet
Hi guys,
For those of you running VMWare (2) on -current, how fast do you expect it to
be?
I'm running it quite successfully on a 750MHz PIII w/ 128MB RAM, and the
following disk controller / disk
atapci0: Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller port 0xfc90-0xfc9f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at
On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 12:09:31AM +0900, Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote:
Hi, I've just imported acpi userland tools and writing manpages for
them with contributers in Japan.
Please review them and send any comments (or diffs) for me
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in terms of English/roff or whatever.
The
Tony,
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 07:17:31PM -0700, Tony Fleisher wrote:
I have been running cvsup nightly to grab -current and -ports,
and noticed some strangeness with awk that seemed to start last
week sometime.
When building /usr/ports/lang/guile, the build exited with an
awk 'internal
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 11:53:30AM -0700, Jason Evans wrote:
Summary: -current will be destabilized for an extended period (on the order
of months). A tag (not a branch) will be laid down before the initial
checkin, and non-developers should either stick closely to that tag until
the kernel
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 06:24:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nik Clayton writes:
: On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:27:12AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote:
: Warner Losh wrote:
:
: Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to
: generate
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:06:57PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nik Clayton writes:
: In my world, this XML file would be a replacement for many of the files
: in src/sys/conf/. Or, at the very least, those files would be generated
: from this XML file
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:06:57PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nik Clayton writes:
: In my world, this XML file would be a replacement for many of the files
: in src/sys/conf/. Or, at the very least, those files would be generated
: from this XML file
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:02:07PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nik Clayton writes:
: Another script would parse the above and generate HARDWARE.TXT. And another
: could parse the above and spit out DocBook for the Handbook and FAQ.
There's some problems witht
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:02:07PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nik Clayton writes:
: Another script would parse the above and generate HARDWARE.TXT. And another
: could parse the above and spit out DocBook for the Handbook and FAQ.
There's some problems witht
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:49:34PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote:
Nik Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[ That schema is not set in stone, and certainly requires more work. In
particular, we probably need "lang" and "encoding" options on the
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:27:12AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote:
Warner Losh wrote:
Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to
generate this information?
Or perhaps the other way around.
That's what I'd prefer. Any solution that relys on trying to parse
[ Sent to -doc, for info, -current for some expert advice on the feasability
of this approach with FreeBSD's migration to a kernel consisting only of
aggregated devices. ]
We have a problem with keeping our documentation up to date. One of the
most glaring examples of this is the hardware
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:27:39PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
So first of all, we (documentation project) should develop prototype
tool to achive that conversion.
And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by
hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:40:44PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Jun Kuriyama wrote:
And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by
hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will *forget*
to update that master text. :-)
I'm not sure I would *forget*
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 10:25:02PM +0200, Thomas Schuerger wrote:
Is there already a tool that checks the installed ports for available
updates in /usr/ports?
I've written such a tool, which seems to work fine already. Anyone
interested?
pkg_version(1)
Ah, haven't seen
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 10:29:12AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
Hopefully some day, parts of the /usr/src bits will be installed with the
pkg_* utils, but today only things in /usr/ports are used with the pkg_*
utils.
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/packages/
:-)
[ For those that
On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:41:55AM +0100, Ashley Penney wrote:
When booting up I noticed the block device warning message. I
did some investigation and discovered that some ad4/ad5 devices
were still block ones. It seems that the MAKEDEV script only
makes up to ad3, but my disks are on
On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 09:20:01AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote:
Nik Clayton wrote:
5. Mount all the fixed disk partitions, and then (assuming they're all
mounted under /mnt/root)
cd /mnt/root/usr/src make DESTDIR=/mnt/root
7. Build and install a new kernel
Hi guys,
I had an abortive -stable to -current upgrade late last week, despite
following the directions in UPGRADING, the two kernels I built (one
custom, one GENERIC) both froze on me during the reboot process.
I'm a little wary of doing it again like that, because it does take
some time to
How do,
I just tried to go from -stable (built on Feb 24th) to -current, fresh
yesterday (Thursday).
"make buildworld" completed cleanly, and following /usr/src/UPDATING I
made and installed a fresh kernel, and updated /dev (by running
"MAKEDEV da0s1a" and "MAKEDEV da1s1a" with a -current
On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 07:38:33AM -0500, Jim Bloom wrote:
Nik Clayton wrote:
On a related note, why does UPDATING say to build and install the kernel,
and then reboot, before doing the "installworld"? That contradicts the
advice in the Handbook (which I wrote), and I would'
On Fri, Feb 25, 2000 at 10:23:37AM -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
I'm wondering if there might not be a way to streamline this install
process, such that a boot floopy and script could be created to take a
minimum amount of information, and then "do the right thing" as for the
install.
[ Sent to -current and -ports, followups set to -current ]
Here's another trivial patch that people might like to comment on before I
commit it. I'm doing more and more FreeBSD installs recently at various
client sites, and adding "FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS=-p" to make.conf is just one of
those
How do
[cc'd JKH: Assuming this passes review, can I put it in 4.0 and MFC? ]
passwd(1) normally enforces mixed case passwords -- or at least it forces
you to enter the lower case password several times before it will actually
let you use it.
This is a pain if you're using the Unix password
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 12:49:04AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
Can people please review this for style and content, for inclusion in
the FAQ? I'll also need someone to mark it up once it's ready since SGML
is currently not among my abilities :-)
Is this FAQ material, or better off in the
On Sun, Dec 19, 1999 at 10:12:16AM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 06:01:21PM -0800, Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sysinstall is not build with 'make world', and should not be used on a
system that's been updated that way.
Well, thanks for the pointer, I've
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 12:40:34PM +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote:
By the way, is there interest in giving the "Print Screen"
key an appropriate meaning, i.e. capturing a screenshot?
I have a few patches for this to implement that, I'd just
have to clean the code up and write a bit of
On Tue, Dec 14, 1999 at 02:42:52PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:56:45 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
YES! This comes up at least once a month on the -questions mailing
list. :-)
I should have been more specific. People are dead keen on these two
features:
On Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 07:01:49PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
The ata driver has been available for you and other to test for a long
time.
That may be the case, but the vast majority of our users don't run
-current, for good reason, and so are in no position to test it. 4.0
will be
On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 11:59:38AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
Poul, I'd like to know what's wrong with
(1) Putting ata in GENERIC
(2) Keeping wd in LINT, commented out
This will not force CURRENT users to change their configs, a config
with wd in it will still work
[ I've cc'd FreeBSD-doc on this, in case there's someone there who's solved
the problem you're having ]
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 05:38:57PM +0100, F. Heinrichmeyer wrote:
i tried to make me a new handbook, so i needed jade.
But the newest C++ fashion (g++ under current) has changed to fast
Jason,
On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 06:52:20PM -0800, Jason Evans wrote:
Walnut Creek has hired me as a full time employee to work primarily on
improving and expanding FreeBSD's threads support. This is very exciting
to me, and I hope my work will be of benefit the FreeBSD community.
That's
[Redirecting to -chat]
On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 02:05:14AM -0700, fifi -- hamster of Satoshi wrote:
* From: Brian Fundakowski Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Cool idea! Let's just limit it to the committer birthdays and not
* pets' birthdays too (sorry Asami's hamster and Jordan's cats, but
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 06:50:11AM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote:
I would be most honored, kind sir. :-)
Just let me update it first, based on this recently acquired
information re: -current. Then, to whom should I submit it?
send-pr, including a URL to the DocBook source is the best way.
[ quoted section retained for context ]
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:53:00PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
-stable, -current,
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 11:05:11AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
[ cc'd to -current ]
On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote:
mode ugly monolingual
Jordan, Satoshi,
Just a reminder: I have *no* objection to the ports tree being used to
build packages of the documentation, as long as the maintenance of those
ports is assigned to individuals, and not the FDP (and, more specifically,
me).
However, I think that another mechanism, one that's
-stable, -current,
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 11:05:11AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
[ cc'd to -current ]
On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote:
mode ugly monolingual American
Will support for building release docs in English only be
revived?
/mode
For the immediate
[ I've added Satoshi Asami to the cc: list -- I figure he's almost certainly
on -current, but I wanted to make sure he sees this and can add his input
as necessary.
I've also added -doc, for information. ]
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 02:25:52PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Nik Clayton
[ cc'd to -current ]
On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote:
mode ugly monolingual American
Will support for building release docs in English only be
revived?
/mode
For the immediate future, it looks like it will -- it seems as though
we don't have the man power to make the
On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:34:31PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote:
Both versions are available at:
http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/matrix_3.2.tgz
http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/matrix_4.0.tgz
I knew I should have taken the blue pill.
FWIW, there are at least two other 'matrix'
Just for completeness;
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 09:42:26PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
2. Who are the committers anyway ?
--
All the noise about Matt Dillons commit bit have generated a lot
of questions about who gets to be committers, so here is a little
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 04:19:52PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
The following script seems to DTRT for me, and should really be
either integrated into a "fdisk -A" flag or maybe as a stand alone
script. Either way: manpage handbook needs updated too.
What, specifically, is wrong with
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 10:16:16AM -0400, John W. DeBoskey wrote:
=== en/handbook
/usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog
-c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c
/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c
On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 10:40:03AM +0930, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Nik Clayton wrote:
docs/7791 is of the opinion that ipf(1) should be moved to ipf(8), to
(among other things) be consistent with ipfw(8).
Anyone care to comment one way or the other?
Definitely
advocate type="devils"
On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 08:13:37PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
[snip]
"Q: Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current? That's got
all the latest stuff, right?
[snip]
If you can live with that, and think you have any compelling reason
to run -current, read
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 02:23:56PM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote:
* From: Nik Clayton n...@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk
* On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:41:13AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote:
* My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog?
* It doesn't
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 07:41:13AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote:
My question is: How do I create /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog?
It doesn't exist in any of the ports.
It's created by the post-install target of ports/textproc/docbook.
N
--
[intentional self-reference] can be easily
How do,
-hackers was silent about this, so I'm resending it to -current. Any
comments before I commit this (trivial) change?
N
==
docs/11589 says that programs that include aio.h also need to include
sys/time.h.
I've had a chat with Terry Lambert, who wrote the aio_read.2 manual page,
who
On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 07:19:11PM +1200, Joe Abley wrote:
I would take issue with that. All of the regional registries require
extremely good justification for allocating static IP addresses to
transient network connections.
Demon (a big ISP in .uk) allocate static IP addresses for
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:48:02PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
/usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c
/usr/doc/share/sgml/catal
og -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c
/usr/local/share/sg
ml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog
On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 11:29:09AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote:
On Wed, Mar 31, 1999 at 12:28:47PM -0800, Brian Beattie wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Warner Losh wrote:
The aic driver will likely oneday be ported. However, no one has come
forward to do it. It is a highly desirable driver to
[ Sent to -current, and -doc Reply-to not set. Please reply only to
the list appropriate for your comments. Thanks. ]
Almost a year ago I started the project to switch the Handbook over
from LinuxDoc to DocBook.
I've pulled the big shiny lever, and the switch has now happened. This
has
Folks,
[ sent to -doc and -current, reply-to points back to -doc ]
I'm reasonably happy with the state of the DocBook handbook now, and am
about ready to do the cutover.
This involves changes to the website and to make release. I'm waiting
for feedback on patches that make these changes from a
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 03:17:10PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
This is done by make release in the chroot area.
Ah. So it is.
2. Make sure /usr/doc/ is up to date (or wherever you store a
This will have no effect on the chroot area - it's checked out
by make release. :)
3.
Folks,
Currently, the English versions of the FAQ and Handbook install in to
/usr/doc/FAQ and /usr/doc/handbook respectively.
The language specific versions install into /usr/doc/{language code}/FAQ
and /usr/doc/{language code}/handbook respectively.
If no one has any objections, I'd like to
Folks,
If you're used to running make release I'd appreciate you trying the
following and letting me know what happens. This is so that I can check
that the DocBook version of the Handbook is being installed correctly.
After checking out the most recent version of doc-all, please do the
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