Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The new PnP code just plain does not work for my PnP AWE64. If I configure like this: controller pnp0 controller snd0 device sb0 device sbxvi0 device sbmidi0 device awe0 device opl0 device joy0 Which is the way it *should* work,

Re: Boot problems with new -current

1999-09-26 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Cejka Rudolf wrote: I think internal bad block remapping is long time here. But in the middle of 1996 I have bought a new Western Digital disk with some bad sectors and it runs without any problems till today (and without any new bad sectors - I have tried new disk format some time

Re: make world, attempt 5

1999-09-26 Thread John Hay
Are you sure everything is ok on your machine? I have done 4-5 make worlds in the last 48 hours and except for the perl breakage, haven't had any other problems. Even make release worked here. John -- John Hay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been trying for the last 24 hours solid to make a new

-current panic w/linux netscape

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Pritchard
I finally saw my first -current panic in more than 5 months (not a bad track record). I have a panic that I can duplicate with a 24 hour old "make world" and a 4 hour old -current kernel. If I run the linux netscape (installed from ports less than a week ago), the kernel panics in copystr().

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Donald J . Maddox: I get the same failures as above from the PnP code, but the card still works (mostly) because it has already been configured by the PnP BIOS. The SB16-compatible portion of the card works OK even if I take PnP support out of the kernel completely, and always

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread Brian Somers
Basically, I think not allowing ISP's to allow the Dialup lines to forward email as a good thing, but for them to limit was businesses do with their IP traffic is simply too big brother'ish, no matter what their contract states. If _we_ don't start to do something about it, big brother

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread sthaug
If _we_ don't start to do something about it, big brother _is_ going to do something about it. Trust me on this one, being a member of the USPA I know that we are far better off implementing our own (as ISP's) set of safe gaurds that help eliminate certain undesirable behavior. [.]

Signal 6

1999-09-26 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
When making /usr/ports/x11/gnome, the compiler fails with the following: obgtkObject.m: In function `obgtk_signal_relay': obgtkObject.m:133: Could not find a spill register (insn:HI 564 562 565 (set (mem:DF (reg:SI 0 %eax)) (subreg:DF (reg:SI 128) 0)) 77 {movdf_mem+1} (insn_list 562

Re: Boot problems with new -current

1999-09-26 Thread Bruce Evans
On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Cejka Rudolf wrote: Ok: Just run "disklabel -r -e ad0", clear word "badsect" in "Flags:" line and booting of new kernels is back... I think phk set to switch back to the wd driver to run disklabel, but that shouldn't be necessary -- a new label can certainly be written

ata driver question..

1999-09-26 Thread Viren R. Shah
I made world and build a new kernel on Friday the 24th, and later that evening, I got these: Sep 24 18:00:33 jabberwock /kernel: ata0-master: ad_timeout: lost disk contact - resetting Sep 24 18:00:33 jabberwock /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Today morning, I found my machine

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
If _we_ don't start to do something about it, big brother _is_ going to do something about it. Trust me on this one, being a member of the USPA I know that we are far better off implementing our own (as ISP's) set of safe gaurds that help eliminate certain undesirable behavior.

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread Gary Palmer
Brian Somers wrote in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have some experience (from anti-spam mailing lists) of ISP's who are quite prepared to open port 25 for customers who ask. This is very good; SMTP has no authentication at all, and it is this "free-for-all" feature that spammers abuse.

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The whole point is that I want to be able to use the wavetable synthesis features of the card. Newpcm (or oldpcm, for that matter) provides NO support for the AWE device whatsoever, as you can see from your dmesg below. It makes little sense to me that PnP functionality should be tied down to a

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread Gary Palmer
Brian Somers wrote in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think it's up to the ISP what default policies they have, and I also think that this sort of policy is a good default... but only as long as the ISP allows exceptions. As a paying subscriber with a clean record I *must* be allowed to

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Gary Palmer
"Donald J . Maddox" wrote in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm just suggesting here that it would be nice if the authors of this code would make it _equally functional_ to what was removed. It's not nice to remove functionality unconditionally and then provide no replacement at all... If

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 01:11:55PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote: "Donald J . Maddox" wrote in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm just suggesting here that it would be nice if the authors of this code would make it _equally functional_ to what was removed. It's not nice to remove functionality

Re: -current panic w/linux netscape

1999-09-26 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Mike Pritchard wrote: I have a panic that I can duplicate with a 24 hour old "make world" and a 4 hour old -current kernel. If you use the linux module, make sure it's in sync with the kernel. If that doesn't help, either follow Matt's advice or use ktrace/truss. -- Marcel Moolenaar

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Brian Somers wrote in message ID :[EMAIL PROTECTED]: : I think it's up to the ISP what default policies they have, and I : also think that this sort of policy is a good default... but only as : long as the ISP allows exceptions. As a paying subscriber with a : clean record I *must* be

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread Gary Palmer
Alex Zepeda wrote in message ID Pine.BSF.4.10.9909261017060.367-10@localhost: No, the real problem is the ISPs who can't fund decent servers and provide decent service. If they could take care of spam and provide a 99% reliable service, I'd have very few problems with using their

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Gary Palmer
"Donald J . Maddox" wrote in message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ummm... I'm not screaming anything, Gary. The intent of my message is just to let the authors of this code know that it is *not* equal in functionality to what was removed. As I said in my original message, it would be nice to see

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
Sigh. Again, I didn't demand anything. I simply pointed out that functionality had been lost. If I was the author of this code, I would *want* feedback on how it was working out for people out here in userland. I assume that the authors in question _do_ want such feedback. Actually, in

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:51:59AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Sigh. Again, I didn't demand anything. I simply pointed out that functionality had been lost. If I was the author of this code, I would *want* feedback on how it was working out for people out here in userland. I assume

New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I couldn't get my PnP Creative AWE64G to work with the new PnP code, so I tried compiling a kernel with pcm instead. All I get is: unknown0: Audio at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 unknown1: Game at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0 unknown2: WaveTable at port 0x620-0x623

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:51:59AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Sigh. Again, I didn't demand anything. I simply pointed out that functionality had been lost. If I was the author of this code, I would *want* feedback on how it was working out for people out here in userland. I

Demand-loaded network ifs and bpf

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I see that support has been added for demand-loading network if drivers. I seem to recall that the last time I tried using network drivers as klds, nothing that required bpf to work was functional anymore, because bpf required that the device existed at the time it was initialized. Is this

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the old code would indiscriminately configure any and all PnP hardware regardless of whether a

Re: make world, attempt 5

1999-09-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:00:50 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been trying for the last 24 hours solid to make a new world. The latest problem is: :-( /src/PANIC/src/lib/libwrap/../../contrib/tcp_wrappers/hosts_access.c:245: syntax error before `' Hi Greg, I was the last person to touch

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the old code would indiscriminately configure any and all PnP hardware regardless of whether

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:59:33AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the old code would

Re: Experimental ACPI driver.

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
Hi, there. We wrote experimental ACPI driver for 4.0-CURRENT. This was just one week work so its functionallity is very very poor :-) but I think it is good idea to start with this for developping ACPI driver for FreeBSD because it is enough small to understand it. I'm not sure this is

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
This is only partially related, but I still can't even boot a kernel with the pnp0 controller enabled. It just hangs after probing the soundcard. On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: Sigh. Again, I didn't demand anything. I simply pointed out that functionality had been lost. If I

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:59:33AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the old code would

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
This is only partially related, but I still can't even boot a kernel with the pnp0 controller enabled. It just hangs after probing the soundcard. You seem to have accidentally deleted all of the details related to this bug report from your email before sending it. Please try again. -- \\

Re: make world, attempt 5

1999-09-26 Thread D. Rock
Greg Lehey schrieb: I've been trying for the last 24 hours solid to make a new world. The latest problem is: === libwrap cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DFACILITY=LOG_AUTH -DHOSTS_ACCESS -DNETGROUP -DDAEMON_UMASK=022 -DREAL_DAEMON_DIR=\"/usr/libexec\" -DPROCESS_OPTIONS -DSEVERITY=LOG_INFO

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread D. Rock
"Donald J . Maddox" schrieb: Is the new PnP code really so smart that it has no use for user intervention ever? My experience indicates that it is not. It would be very nice if the architects of the new PnP code would add back this lost functionality. My (QD) solution for this problem:

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread D. Rock
"Donald J . Maddox" schrieb: I couldn't get my PnP Creative AWE64G to work with the new PnP code, so I tried compiling a kernel with pcm instead. All I get is: unknown0: Audio at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 unknown1: Game at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks. That is exactly what I have done. The AWE device cannot work this way, but everything else is functional if I remove the PnP controller from my kernel... On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:04:38PM +0200, D. Rock wrote: "Donald J . Maddox" schrieb: Is the new PnP code really so smart that it

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks again, Daniel... I'll take a look. If the ID isn't in there, I'll submit a PR to get it added. (should only take about 10-12 months to actually get it comitted, if experience is a reliable guide :-/) On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:09:58PM +0200, D. Rock wrote: "Donald J . Maddox" schrieb:

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Peter Wemm
"Donald J . Maddox" wrote: I couldn't get my PnP Creative AWE64G to work with the new PnP code, so I tried compiling a kernel with pcm instead. All I get is: unknown0: Audio at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 o n isa0 unknown1: Game at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
From the keyboard of Mike Smith: I don't think an explanation of how PnP works or how it fits into our device architecture is feasible at this point, so I'm going to encourage you to do some research of your own. An explanation of how PnP works is not necessary, some good books and papers

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
From the keyboard of Kenneth Wayne Culver: This is only partially related, but I still can't even boot a kernel with the pnp0 controller enabled. It just hangs after probing the soundcard. Same here for a week or two in which dfr was very helpful to try to find out what happened. With new

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Peter Wemm
"Donald J . Maddox" wrote: Ok, will do. Thanks. This may be a silly question, but... The old PnP driver recognized a lot of devices, including my AWE64. Isn't there a list of IDs it was aware of that should be merged into newPnP ASAP? The old PnP code was matching on the card vendor ID.

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 05:05:37AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: The old PnP code was matching on the card vendor ID. The new pnp code treats each logical device on it's own and matches by logical ID.. (It's actually far more useful that way as most cards have their own manufacturer ID but

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 12:29:46PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: But we do have a working driver for the AWE64. Or rather, it worked fine before the new PnP code was comitted, now it doesn't. It seems to me that this indicates a deficiency in the new PnP code. Isn't that correct?

[dmaddox@conterra.com: Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)]

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 02:29:43PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Again, thanks for the very helpful and informative answers. I would still appreciate it if someone could give me a little bit more of a clue as to what is necessary to add newPnP-awareness to the AWE driver, though. (Surly

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Doug
Peter Wemm wrote: "Donald J . Maddox" wrote: Ok, will do. Thanks. This may be a silly question, but... The old PnP driver recognized a lot of devices, including my AWE64. Isn't there a list of IDs it was aware of that should be merged into newPnP ASAP? The old PnP code was

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
The old PnP code was matching on the card vendor ID. The new pnp code treats each logical device on it's own and matches by logical ID. The new architecture sounds like a good thing, but isn't there a way to fall back to the old method if the logical device ID isn't found? Perhaps

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Peter Wemm
Vladimir Kushnir wrote: Hello, here's an output for my Yamaha OPL-SA2 card (it used to work perfectly all right as css device friends under old Pnp VoxWare, but now outputs very poor sound through /dev/dsp and no sound at all when playing audio CD, and of course no midi): dmesg: pcm0:

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Vladimir Kushnir
Thanks for replay, but what I am to do? At least, where to start looking? Card is revognized, so this indeed shouldn't be PnP fault. Card's 16 bit, but so far the only acceptable sound give esd or mpg123. On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Vladimir Kushnir wrote: Hello, here's an output

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Peter Wemm
Vladimir Kushnir wrote: Thanks for replay, but what I am to do? At least, where to start looking? Card is revognized, so this indeed shouldn't be PnP fault. Card's 16 bit, but so far the only acceptable sound give esd or mpg123. The person to talk to is Cameron Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] for

Re: make world, attempt 5

1999-09-26 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 26 September 1999 at 21:01:17 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:00:50 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: I've been trying for the last 24 hours solid to make a new world. The latest problem is: :-(

Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups

1999-09-26 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler
stopping chat on the tech lists is an open research project ;) jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

New ATA, HPT366 and UDMA66

1999-09-26 Thread ktsin
Hi I'm unable to get the new ATA driver to configure the HPT366 controller to use busmastering DMA and to make the IBM 22GXP drive run at UDMA66. Linux HPT366 driver supports busmastering DMA and UDMA66. Does anybody know how to fix this? Below is a portion of the output from dmesg:

Re: Experimental ACPI driver.

1999-09-26 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Smith wrote: Both Doug Rabson and myself have been tinkering with this, and there's someone that's been looking at an AML parser/interpreter in the last couple of weeks. At this point in time, the parser and object manager are the most vital components.

Re: New ATA, HPT366 and UDMA66

1999-09-26 Thread Foxfair Hu
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:49:59 +0800 (SGT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm unable to get the new ATA driver to configure the HPT366 controller to use busmastering DMA and to make the IBM 22GXP drive run at UDMA66. Linux HPT366 driver supports busmastering DMA and UDMA66. Does anybody know

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Darryl Okahata
Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're not doing this because we enjoy pain and suffering, it's because it'll be better and more robust in the long run. Unfortunately, there was no canonical list of logical ID's on the cards we used to recognize. So I repeat for the list.. If you've

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: This is only partially related, but I still can't even boot a kernel with the pnp0 controller enabled. It just hangs after probing the soundcard. You seem to have accidentally deleted all of the details related to this bug report from your email

Re: Experimental ACPI driver.

1999-09-26 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, Mike. # I'm very happy because of your reply :) We wrote experimental ACPI driver for 4.0-CURRENT. This was just one week work so its functionallity is very very poor :-) but I think it is good idea to start with this for developping ACPI driver for FreeBSD because it is enough

Re: Wierd su problem still there

1999-09-26 Thread Benjamin Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: adams@nightfall(18:06:51)$ su Password:load: 0.37 cmd: su 381 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 668k load: 0.37 cmd: su 381 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 668k load: 0.37 cmd: su 381 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.00s 0% 668k each "load" line is an enter press. [snip] As soon as I get this

Re: Wierd su problem still there

1999-09-26 Thread Adam Strohl
I too have encountered the same symptoms. I have no idea why this started happening, but I have found a couple ways around it. First, two Control-Ds will act as a Return if you find the status lines appearing. Second, the stty command will fix it totally. I use `stty status ^T' to remap

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Alok K. Dhir
Well said. On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Donald J . Maddox wrote: On a more personal note - What *is* your problem, anyway? If you don't have anything useful to contribute to the conversation, why reply at all? Peter answered all my questions, and provided lots of useful information in a single

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Smith
On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: This is only partially related, but I still can't even boot a kernel with the pnp0 controller enabled. It just hangs after probing the soundcard. You seem to have accidentally deleted all of the details related to this bug report from your

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Oliver Fromme
Mike Smith wrote in list.freebsd-current: Can you give me a few hints on what would be necessary to get the old driver to work with the new PnP? As has already been explained to you (you _do_ read these messages in their entirety, right?), the old driver has been obsoleted. You

Re: EGCS, or EGCS?

1999-09-26 Thread Peter Jeremy
Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Jeremy wrote: I appear to have two complete copies of gcc - one in src/contrib/gcc and another in src/contrib/egcs/gcc. src/contrib/gcc is where gcc used to live. Then along came egcs with a cygnus-style tree that ended up in src/contrib/egcs (v1.1.1

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Re: New ATA, HPT366 and UDMA66

1999-09-26 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Jason Young wrote: I looked at this yesterday (we just got one in). The HighPoint controller has some specific initialization needs, just like the Promise controller. The Linux code doesn't seem terribly twisted, although I didn't have enough caffiene handy to try and interpret