Re: ARP tables in FreeBSD (vs Linux)

2011-05-27 Thread Chuck Swiger
On May 27, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Rogelio wrote: > It was one of those things where in an effort to quickly fix things, I > split up the collision domain and used a router to handle the ARP. > > Right now, a 7201 router has about 15K ARPs, and the system is much slower. I'm not surprised. Even good s

Re: ARP tables in FreeBSD (vs Linux)

2011-05-27 Thread Rogelio
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Was the rate of ARPs the problem? Nikos, unfortunately, I'm not sure. It was one of those things where in an effort to quickly fix things, I split up the collision domain and used a router to handle the ARP. Right now, a 7201 router ha

Re: ARP tables in FreeBSD (vs Linux)

2011-05-24 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On 5/23/2011 10:46 PM, Rogelio wrote: I found that a certain Linux gateway was having a difficult time with thousands of ARP entries (about 13K concurrent ARP entries in 10 min from ISP subscribers), so I put it behind a Cisco 7201 router and added an IP helper to the interface. Now it seems to

ARP tables in FreeBSD (vs Linux)

2011-05-23 Thread Rogelio
I found that a certain Linux gateway was having a difficult time with thousands of ARP entries (about 13K concurrent ARP entries in 10 min from ISP subscribers), so I put it behind a Cisco 7201 router and added an IP helper to the interface. Now it seems to be working much much better. In the fut

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i didn't had the time to debug it to find out the problem. I would like to know what happened there. The good thing is that a future client of my company works with the same accounting software and the server runs FBSD so if something goes wrong i'll have the time to debug properly. it may be so

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
if it could work for 2 months and then refused - something must have been changed on the client software side. No Mr. Puchar nothing changed on the client side. so what changed on server side so it stopped working after 2 months? in unix there are no "magic things" - things works or not.

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-21 Thread Valentin Bud
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Manfred Usselmann < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:03 +0200 (CEST) > Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open > > > on the directories and files > > > so i made the

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-21 Thread Manfred Usselmann
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:43:03 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open > > on the directories and files > > so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 > > months but after that > > at some

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-20 Thread Valentin Bud
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Wojciech Puchar < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the >> directories and files >> so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months >> but >> after that >> at some point the c

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-20 Thread Mikhail Goriachev
Valentin Bud wrote: hello list, a little story about samba and FreeBSD. I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program for accounting. that software works with lots of files to do the job. the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the directories and

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the directories and files so i made them 0777. the software worked like a charm for about 2 months but after that at some point the client couldn't access the files on the samba server. if it could work for 2 months and then

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-20 Thread Valentin Bud
Hello list, On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Odhiambo Washington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Valentin Bud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > hello list, > > a little story about samba and FreeBSD. > > I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Valentin Bud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello list, > a little story about samba and FreeBSD. > I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program for > accounting. that software works with lots of files to do the job. > > the software admin told me t

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-20 Thread Valentin Bud
hello list, a little story about samba and FreeBSD. I had to make a file server for a company that uses a program for accounting. that software works with lots of files to do the job. the software admin told me that the permissions should be very open on the directories and files so i made them 0

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-20 Thread Frank Bonnet
Charles Mason wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it with FreeBSD or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would much prefer FreeBSD do what your boss wants. it's his c

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-18 Thread Uwe Laverenz
Frank Bonnet schrieb: I am on the way to setup a brand new Samba server with OpenLDAP backend I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it with FreeBSD or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would much prefer FreeBSD so good arguments are welcome ( my b

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Frank Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > I am on the way to setup a brand new Samba server with OpenLDAP backend > > I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it > with FreeBSD > or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux bu

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
A boss hires someone that knows what he/she is talking about and relies on his/her vision. so - he/she should not persuade what OS will be, just WHAT should be done. To get informed this person might get his/her information before he/she decides what the best solution might be; I do hope he/she

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Uit een eerder bericht (17-10-2008 17:42): do what your boss wants. it's his company, and it's his right to make bad decision A boss hires someone that knows what he/she is talking about and relies on his/her vision. To get informed this person might get his/her information before he/she decid

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
If he's a good boss (as the poster seem to be implying) then he will be asking because he hasn't made his mind up his mind completely, but yeah don't get fired over it :) in most cases and with system doing ONLY samba, both linux and freebsd will work fine. so his boss is not smart for sure p

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
decision This is off-topic, but I wholly disagree. As a professional employee, it's my job to advise my boss on technological matters, yes - advise no - persuade! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listin

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Mel
On Friday 17 October 2008 18:55:19 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 05:13:45PM +0100, Charles Mason wrote: > > From what I have seen, both are perfectly capable and since its samba > > that will be doing most of the actual work its probably doesn't matter > > that much. Of course th

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 05:13:45PM +0100, Charles Mason wrote: > From what I have seen, both are perfectly capable and since its samba > that will be doing most of the actual work its probably doesn't matter > that much. Of course the next question if he goes with Linux, is which > distro. Perhaps

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:34:00PM +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > I am on the way to setup a brand new Samba server with OpenLDAP backend > > I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it > with FreeBSD > or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Charles Mason
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it >> with FreeBSD >> or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would much prefer >> FreeBSD > > do what your boss wants. it's his company

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Friday 17 October 2008 10:42:05 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > do what your boss wants. it's his company, and it's his right to make bad > decision This is off-topic, but I wholly disagree. As a professional employee, it's my job to advise my boss on technological matters, and to persuade him to c

Re: Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it with FreeBSD or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would much prefer FreeBSD do what your boss wants. it's his company, and it's his right to make bad decision _

Installing Samba : FreeBSD Vs Linux ?

2008-10-17 Thread Frank Bonnet
Hello I am on the way to setup a brand new Samba server with OpenLDAP backend I am very interrested by feedback of "real world" samba admins running it with FreeBSD or Linux , my boss push hardly to use Linux but I would much prefer FreeBSD so good arguments are welcome ( my boss is a smart guy

Re: mmap on freebsd vs linux

2007-04-18 Thread Danny Pansters
I'm not really an expert on this but here goes... On Wednesday 18 April 2007 18:05:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > > i am looking into implementing a piece of the V4L interface. this > involves mmap'ing from userspace into kernelspace. > > in mplayer, this is what is called: > > tvi_v4l2.c

mmap on freebsd vs linux

2007-04-18 Thread Robert Huff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > does mmap work on freebsd as it works on linux? ie: can i mmap > any device? are there constraints on the device which should be > met? U ... "man 2 mmap"? Robert Huff

mmap on freebsd vs linux

2007-04-18 Thread usleepless
Hi All, i am looking into implementing a piece of the V4L interface. this involves mmap'ing from userspace into kernelspace. in mplayer, this is what is called: tvi_v4l2.c: " priv->map[i].addr = mmap (0, priv->map[i].buf.length, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARE

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-22 Thread Ceri Davies
On 18 Jan 2006, at 17:17, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 1/17/06, Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switc

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Adam Nealis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:59 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > >I disagree with that. The guidelines fo

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-21 Thread Adam Nealis
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Adam Nealis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:13 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux --- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: W

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:13 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > >> "is freebsd better than linux"

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "is freebsd better than linux" kind of question is perfectly legitimate. "Is FreeBSD more suitible as a desktop system with a 200mHz pentium-pro and a 4 gigabyte hard-drive than windows 3.11 on dos 6.22 on vmware on top of Solaris 10?" is perfectly legitimate. "Is FreeBSD better than Slackware?"

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:36 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Dick Davies; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux > > > > >More rambling, useless points from Ted. Whethe

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: Adam Nealis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:13 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Graham Bentley; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD vs Linux > > >--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Danial Thom
--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Danial Thom > >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:54 AM > >To: Dick Davies; freebsd-questions

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:19:38 -0800 "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do you say to the people who want to do some research before > putting the time into installing it? > > Ted http://www.freebsd.org/ http://www.freebsddiary.org/topics.php http://www.onlamp.com/bsd/ http:/

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Graham Bentley
> What do you say to the people who want to do some research before > putting the time into installing it? > > Ted http://www.freesbie.org/ ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Adam Nealis
t; >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Graham Bentley > >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:28 AM > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > > > > >Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions > >list

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
ons@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > >Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions >list about FreeBSD. I already use it (as well as other OS's) >What do I care about the arguments for and against xy and z? > >Thinking about it now, if I was

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-19 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:54 AM >To: Dick Davies; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > > > >> > Microsoft pays hardwar

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-19 Thread Graham Bentley
Damn, I just fell into the same old trap. This is a questions list about FreeBSD. I already use it (as well as other OS's) What do I care about the arguments for and against xy and z? Thinking about it now, if I was asking the same question and someone said "Why not try out FreeBSD and make yo

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-19 Thread cpghost
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 08:03:15PM +0100, Mathias Menzel-Nielsen wrote: > My hardware is fully supported by FreeBSD and in fact some of it was > supported earlier on FreeBSD than on Linux. > For example, the Brooktree bktr(4) Video-Capture driver existed first on > FreeBSD, also high-speed cd-bur

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:15 + Tim Greening-Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What is the essential difference > > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > > I have been following this thread (and similar ones over t

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:00:59 + Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Let me first point out I've seen about 4 different 'unix/windows is > teh gayz0r' threads on completely unrelated mailing lists in the > last 24 hours. > If I sound bored rigid with the whole subject that might be why.] >

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Matias
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-01-18 16:55, Matias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora >> > for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences? >> > W

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Dick Davies
On 18/01/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 18/01/06, Danial Thom > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (actually, no he didn't. your mail clients quoting is insane) (some guy:) > > > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to make drivers f

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Tim Greening-Jackson
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:15 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? I have been following this thread (and similar ones over the past few weeks) and would like to offer my perspective on the "FreeBSD versus Linux" discus

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Danial Thom
--- Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/01/06, Danial Thom > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > > > > make drivers for their OS, > > > > > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to > with > > > their market share. > > > Ok, what do you

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Dick Davies
On 18/01/06, Martin Tournoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps. > > And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes. > There's a very big dump of unmaintained software, whenever I want to > play an old "classic" game like c&c, x-com or even s

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Martin Tournoy
Dick Davies => Sorry for sending you this mail twice, accidently pressed enter...(shoudn't eat and write e-mails at the same time...) > So what? That's exactly the same for FreeBSD, even it's core apps. > And vendors rush to support MS' new OSes. There's a very big dump of unmaintained software,

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Spiros Papadopoulos
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matias > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:55 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > &

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 1/17/06, Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am > > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I > > get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can > > disconnect without

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Dick Davies
On 18/01/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > > > make drivers for their OS, > > > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with > > their market share. > Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something? > MS doesn't have to "pay" vendo

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Danial Thom
> > Microsoft pays hardware manufacturers to > > make drivers for their OS, > > I seriously doubt it. They don't need to with > their market share. Ok, what do you guys live in a shoe or something? For pete's sake, how can so many people be so patently clueless and still be able to find food a

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Matias wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences? What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? Greetings Greg

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-01-18 16:55, Matias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora > > for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences? > > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Matias
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? > Greetings > Greg > > _

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Dick Davies
[Let me first point out I've seen about 4 different 'unix/windows is teh gayz0r' threads on completely unrelated mailing lists in the last 24 hours. If I sound bored rigid with the whole subject that might be why.] Can we please stop comparing *NIX to windows. They're nothing like each other. Like

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-18 Thread Martin Tournoy
> Windows almost runs everything Quite the opposite, try running some application from a few years back on windows 200 or XP, big chance it won't work. > Unix has not matured yet to compete with Microsoft. Yeah, let's just forget that UNIX had stuff like network support before windows even exist

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Graham Bentley
*Some* reasonable and balanced points for a questions list :) My laptop distro www.zenwalk.org My rack server www.trustix.org My webserver www.freebsd.org (of course:) For very boring locked in accounts work W2K Using the appropraite tool for the job seems to be the best advice I have had on this

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jan 17, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Tamouh H. wrote: Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Fi

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:00:26 -0500 "Tamouh H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof > > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by > > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ > > > > Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as >

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Z.C.B.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:32:30 +0200 Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? > [high definition audio :p] > changing the topic ;) > missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont > even know if they still w

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread David Kelly
On Jan 17, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Dick Davies wrote: On 17/01/06, David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the tough details about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver. Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread David Kelly
On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Tamouh H. wrote: Still Microsoft has the upper hand! How about this for an idea, sponsored drivers ? Why not allow such service that if an organization or individual wishes to have a driver written they can sponsor a FreeBSD developer to do it? How is that

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Tamouh H.
>That or the user(s). Microsoft doesn't write any sound card drivers, they make >>>manufacturers do it then pay and beg to be included on the master distribution >CD/DVD. >For a device to work in FreeBSD someone who wants it bad enough to do the work has >to have the skills and want it bad enough

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Garrett Cooper
David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:00:26PM -0500, Tamouh H. wrote: Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Wind

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Garrett Cooper
Tamouh H. wrote: Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card in my G5, and they wor

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Garrett Cooper
Andrew L. Gould wrote: A FreeBSD vs Linux anecdote: I've read several articles over the years talking about how Linux can breathe new life into old computers. After the last couple of weeks, I don't buy it. After combining the hardware from 2 old computers (circa 1996 and 1998

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Dick Davies
On 17/01/06, David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone has an unsupported sound card with a Linux example. All the > tough details about the hardware are spelled out in the Linux driver. > Plenty of FreeBSD drivers have been ported to Linux and vice versa. Danger Will Robinson! The GPL ca

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread David Kelly
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 05:00:26PM -0500, Tamouh H. wrote: > > > > Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof > > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by > > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ > > Oh come on, I've been working with all Linux, FreeBSD and Windows. > > Getti

RE: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Tamouh H.
> Just get a different sound card. There are lotsof > inexpensive sounds cards that are probably supported by > FreeBSD for just a few (10-30) $ > > Btw, this problem happens with Windows, Mac OS X, etc as > well. I have been trying to put an extra USB/Firewire card > in my G5, and they work, b

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread chris
Using sound on a Unix box will not give you the same support for that then on a windows box if the sound card problem is with all major os'es then i would think your sound card is ready to be changed out i have a audigy Z2 in my unix box and i have had no errors so fare freebsd doesnt support high

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:32:30 -0800 (PST) Philip Hallstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am > > adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon > > as I get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc s

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:57:04 -0700 "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Danial Thom wrote: > > > No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple > > distributions that use the same kernel. The fact > > that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't >

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Philip Hallstrom
The computer is currently without keyboard, mouse or monitor. I am adding applications to the computer via ssh while I work. As soon as I get openbox and tightvnc installed, I'll switch to tightvnc so I can disconnect without disrupting jobs. (Hmm, I wonder if I'll have to add a mouse or keyboa

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Andrew L. Gould
A FreeBSD vs Linux anecdote: I've read several articles over the years talking about how Linux can breathe new life into old computers. After the last couple of weeks, I don't buy it. After combining the hardware from 2 old computers (circa 1996 and 1998 -- anyone remember ISA car

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux/ vs. OpenBSD

2006-01-17 Thread Rob
he meantime > why don't you spend $5 and get a cheap sound card to give you something to do > while you wait?:) > > OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. Linux opens up a new old can of worms... or is that > an new can of old worms? > > Mike Hi, My experience with FreeBSD on the l

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? [high definition audio :p] changing the topic ;) missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont even know if they still work :p] Just get a differen

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Danial Thom wrote: No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple distributions that use the same kernel. The fact that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't make it any more complete. Actually it is spot on. Linux is a kernel. The various distributions add a

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread chris
Have similar performance hah > Linux is just kernel only. > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar performance. There are much > already discussed about it, a google search will give you more info. > ___ > freeb

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mike Hernandez
they still work :p] You know it could be worse, you could be using OpenBSD and then you'd never even have a chance at getting a proprietary driver to work. ;) In the meantime why don't you spend $5 and get a cheap sound card to give you something to do while you wait?:) OpenBSD vs. F

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT
any idea when i'll be able to use my sound card on freebsd ;) ? [high definition audio :p] changing the topic ;) missed listening to music :'( [my speakers will get rot soon, dont even know if they still work :p] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mathias Menzel-Nielsen
feel comfortable. But pushing FreeBSD in the "Server-OS -- No multimedia possible"-corner does not represents its current state. Sorry, I dont want to start a FreeBSD vs. Linux Discussion -- just giving my 2 cents... greetings Matze ___ fr

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mike Hernandez
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:38:24AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: > > No, thats ridiculous. Linux has multiple > distributions that use the same kernel. The fact > that freebsd only has one distribution doesn't > make it any more complete. > "Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that alloc

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 1/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? Just google for it, there are ple

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Danial Thom
--- Mike Hernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:07:25AM -0800, > Danial Thom wrote: > > > > > > --- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Linux is just kernel only. > > > > > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > > > > > FreeBSD and Li

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Philip Juels
7;s for custom things like firewalls and utility systems (cd/dvd burning, etc). --PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the essential difference between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? Where can I find any list of differences? What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? Greetings G

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mike Hernandez
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:07:25AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: > > > --- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Linux is just kernel only. > > > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > > > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar > > performance. There are much > > already discu

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT
i use freebsd at home too :) [as the only o.s. for my pc] that was 'my opinion'. [dont have sound :'( but still use it :p ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mark Rowlands
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 18:42, Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT wrote: > but freebsd mostly > used as a server. not much suitable for PC usage. I really dislike this canard, I have run FreeBSD on a laptop since 3.4 and support for the hardware has generally been adequate, I guess it depends what you want

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Danial Thom
--- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Linux is just kernel only. > > FreeBSD is complete operating system. > > FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar > performance. There are much > already discussed about it, a google search > will give you more info. Nothing personal, but thats

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Danial Thom
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for > instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs > Linux? > Greetings > Greg Whats the difference between a whe

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread FlashWebHost.com
Linux is just kernel only. FreeBSD is complete operating system. FreeBSD and Linux have almost similar performance. There are much already discussed about it, a google search will give you more info. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http:/

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Mehmet Fatih AKBULUT
hi, kernel is one of the differences ;) freebsd uses generic kernel. and one other important difference is freebsd doest not support my intel high definition audio card :( so no sound for years :'( [other distros debian, suse ... support my card.] instead of yum or apt-get, you have ports in freebs

Re: FreeBSD vs Linux

2006-01-17 Thread Fabian Keil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is the essential difference > between FreeBSD and Linux (Fedora for instance)? > Where can I find any list of differences? > What/Where are the advantages of FreeBSD vs Linux? http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php Fab

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