except when i forgot to unmount - yep, the problem lies here, it's so
natural to just unplug an USB device
it's so natural to unmount device before removing. at least in unix...
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:10:18 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
except when i forgot to unmount - yep, the problem lies here,
it's so natural to just unplug an USB device
it's so natural to unmount device before removing. at least in unix...
On a modern UNIX (like
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:09:39 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well - solaris is not that bad. it's unix, you can work on it
normally, it's just slow etc...
Considering the things the system is doing for me it certainly is not
slow. It's a rock-solid UNIX but like sendmail
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 17:10 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
except when i forgot to unmount - yep, the problem lies here, it's so
natural to just unplug an USB device
it's so natural to unmount device before removing. at least in unix...
true too .. :)
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:23:04 +0100, Julien Cigar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you may pkg_add from ftp repository
of course .. too bad that there is no pkg_upgrade
You can use:
portupgrade -PP pkgname
This will only use pre-compiled packages to upgrade.
the burn. ;)
It works on all my different machines, even a cheapy acer laptop with dvdrw.
As I said, I've not seen it NOT work on any and all cheap hardware in
a long, long time. I guess maybe I'm just lucky.
ed
P.S. The only thing that doesn't work on my cheapy laptop is the
crystal eye
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +1000
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote:
The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO
work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good.
i'm not so sure that is really THAT good. bells and whistles if not
carefully
On Thu 11 Dec 2008 at 10:37:42 PST prad wrote:
while i agree with you as far as having suitable driver accessibility,
i don't see why one system needs to try to be all things to all people.
I agree. But if FreeBSD isn't trying to be all things to all people,
the implication is that it IS
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:44:23PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
that's the most narrow minded post i've seen here since i'm on this group
or your narrow mail reading .
As if the only work that can be considered real work is the work you do...
The reason why I CAN'T do any serious work
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:28:00PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work
in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good.
in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a
bit for windows is
things like READ_BIG timeout, etc. I tried almost everything (disabling
ACPI, DMA, upgrading the drive BIOS, etc), disabling DMA resolved some
problems, but it's still impossible to burn a DVD for example.
That boggles my mind -- but then, I remember having even worse problems
with the hardware
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:09:51 -0800
Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote:
The impression I get from the website is that FreeBSD is indeed trying
to be all things to all people. Did I miss something?
charlie, i think the point of that page is indicated here:
Here are some examples of the
While OpenBSD has a great reputation as a server operating system, it
for whom? ;) it's just overadvertised nothing more, having no adventage
over FreeBSD in any point.
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Please stop trolling.
having different opinion than yours isn't trolling.
and i WILL NOT stop writing my opinions just because your is different.
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On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 06:38:30PM +0300, Ole wrote:
Also you can use portupgrade -PP
-PP
--use-packages-onlyNever use the port even if a package is not avail-
able either locally or remotely, although you
still have to
instead. This function sets in configure by program author and when you
working with ports you can play this options
I'd love to drop GNOME and KDE support for OO.o, but on my laptop I
really don't have the resources to spare for compiling OO.o, so I live
with whatever's in the package. Such
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:32:20PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Please stop trolling.
having different opinion than yours isn't trolling.
and i WILL NOT stop writing my opinions just because your is different.
It's not just that you have a different opinion than me -- it's that
every time
On Thu 11 Dec 2008 at 11:32:57 PST prad wrote:
charlie, i think the point of that page is indicated here:
Here are some examples of the environments in which FreeBSD is used
these are examples of freebsd's versatility, which is not the same as
saying freebsd is ubiquitously versatile.
-calling going on. The
product is technically sound, has better hardware support than other *ixes (I
run OpenBSD on servers -- but not on the laptop beause of the lack of laptop
support), and gets the job done well. The documentation is simply phenomenal.
I'm good with that. I'm also more than
we have for each other, and there's not much name-calling going on. The
product is technically sound, has better hardware support than other *ixes (I
run OpenBSD on servers -- but not on the laptop beause of the lack of laptop
support), and gets the job done well. The documentation is simply
Thursday, 11 December 2008 at 12:28:00 +0100, Wojciech Puchar said:
The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO work
in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good.
in bells and whistles windows is best. for those who require it paying a
bit for windows
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:12:19 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Please stop trolling.
chad, i don't think this is fair to wojciech. he is expressing his
feelings and considerable knowledge about an os that he doesn't want to
go the way of certain others. i find he writes concisely and
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:20:23 -0800
Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote:
Goals are one thing. How much progress you've made toward meeting
your goals is another. This thread has been about some things
FreeBSD still needs to do in order to meet what do seem to be, after
all, some of
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:30:32 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
for whom? ;) it's just overadvertised nothing more,
ya well i'm not trying to do their advertising :D :D
i merely copied it from their page.
we did use openbsd for 1 yr for our servers and it was ok
Let me jump in again here.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:46:22 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:
so performance, networking (and presumably serving), storage,
administration
and
documentation
would seem to be major matters of concern.
That's a valid point. I definitely don't want to see
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:03:13 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:
well i thought the 3.9 fish was kinda cute, but beastie is still much
better!
Yes, it is. =^_^= --- http://www.spilth.org/pictures/girls/ceren/
--
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra
things changing. Because I have to administer and to program
on FreeBSD, I enjoy (!) the excellent documentation. Everything
is there, from system binaries, configuration files, maintenance
procedures, system calls and kernel interfaces. Just look into
i fully agree with you
the Linux world -
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:06:35 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
in linux:
man command
this manual is no longer maintained. try info, google or wiki. maybe you
will find your documentation, maybe not.
Or try this with third party software on FreeBSD, for
Julien Cigar said the following on 2008-12-11 14:40:
- Altough ports are fantastic, building things like OpenOffice or ... is
just inhuman, especially when you cannot use -j for building ports (but
it's being resolved I think).
Of course you can use -j to build ports.
Just cd to/your/port
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:03:24 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
In Germany, we have the term eierlegende Wollmilchsau (egg-
laying wool-milk-sow)
that is indeed a great term!
MICROS~1's customers want bugs, they get bugs because they paid
for them. :-)
:D
may be the mac people can
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 08:46:36PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
instead. This function sets in configure by program author and when you
working with ports you can play this options
I'd love to drop GNOME and KDE support for OO.o, but on my laptop I
really don't have the resources to spare
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:44:06 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:
may be the mac people can use your line here in one of their
commercials :D
But only if Mac OS X supports 8.3 filenames. :-)
You give them computing power not imaginable 10 years ago, and
they treat their system like
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:23:03PM -0500, michael wrote:
I agree. nothing wrong with his posts. the mailing list was never
described as a warm, social gather. you want answers, and you get them
here. i for one would rather him be abrupt and short. no need for the
pomp and circumstance.
I
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:24:19PM -0800, prad wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:12:19 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Please stop trolling.
chad, i don't think this is fair to wojciech. he is expressing his
feelings and considerable knowledge about an os that he doesn't want to
such support.
Refusing to support such things will not make FreeBSD better: it will
only make FreeBSD more limited. Can we stop trying to dissuade people
from improving FreeBSD, and from advocating for improvements?
I don't see any reason we can't try to talk hardware vendors into
providing better specs
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:11:25 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
His manner of expressing his feelings seems to be to try to crush
others' beneath his heel. Try examining the definition of the word
fair before you use it in the future.
ok, chad, here's what you find on
of certain desktop users
2. that desktop usage is possibly not a primary goal and therefore
should not detract from development in the other areas
i think it is always an excellent idea to talk hardware vendors into
providing better specs so better drivers can be produced. this is
something the openbsd
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:47:23PM -0800, prad wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:11:25 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
His manner of expressing his feelings seems to be to try to crush
others' beneath his heel. Try examining the definition of the word
fair before you use it in
to prioritize development goals, though.
i think it is always an excellent idea to talk hardware vendors into
providing better specs so better drivers can be produced. this is
something the openbsd group also advocated strongly for and it can only
be good for all opensource (assuming
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:46:54 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
My point exactly -- you rush to his defense, making statements that
seem intended to skewer me for things he has done. I don't consider
that the epitome of fairness.
i'm not trying to skewer you. i only stated that i
. . . are you saying that increased support for 3D accelerated
graphics is not an improvement, and should therefore not be considered
a worthy goal?
Not so much considered 'unworthy' as it is a balancing of limited resources.
If I was a hardware programmer, had unlimited time, beer, and cheese
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:58:14 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
So . . . are you saying that increased support for 3D accelerated
graphics is not an improvement, and should therefore not be
considered a worthy goal?
no. access to hardware probably is a worthy goal, however, you
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote:
snip
IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement,
it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed
a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization
to improve its basic
Hello !
It would be desirable to learn from experienced users OS - why FreeBSD does
not concern the category serious systems at the overwhelming majority of
manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when anybody from
manufacturers did not notice Linux. However now it is possible
manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when anybody from
because managers/bosses concentrate on majority, not minority of users.
manufacturers did not notice Linux. However now it is possible to find a few
given out put normal OS - their list is at us on a site
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:40:46 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when
anybody from
because managers/bosses concentrate on majority, not minority of users.
That is plain good business sense. As Willy Sutton once remarked
NVidia, for one, has expressed
a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization
to improve its basic product, especially in the 64-bit systems, which
are the future of computing.
Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver?
there is mention of
Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver?
there is mention of progress on this page
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545page=24
most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need super-high-speed
3D.
so simply don't use nvidia/ati
If only 3D or super-high-speed has been affected by this driver. Regrettably
most application simple is not usable, like video-players, google-earth,
KDE4 - all of that on my desktop station with 4Gb of RAM is looksworks
like nightmare in vesa (xorg nv)-driver. And me too a very long time
On 12/7/08, Ole Vole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 3D or super-high-speed has been affected by this driver.
Regrettably
most application simple is not usable, like video-players, google-earth,
KDE4 - all of that on my desktop station with 4Gb of RAM is
looksworks
like nightmare in
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:29:32AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement,
it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed
a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization
to improve its basic
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 07:18:08PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need super-high-speed
3D.
Who is most freebsd users? I agree that there are more important
things to worry about than nvidia/amd64 support, but: if you want to buy
a computer
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 07:18:08PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Does anyone know of any recent progress on a 64bit Nvidia Driver?
there is mention of progress on this page
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545page=24
most freebsd users don't need 3D at all, or don't need
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 20:35:17 +0100
Uwe Laverenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who is most freebsd users?
i would think most are interested in running servers or routers or
possible scientific applications or engaged in os study and appreciate
its simplicity and consistency.
i don't think it can
Paul B. Mahol writes:
Simple solution:
Pay them or someone to do it for you, or hack it yourself, or
wait for it little longer.
Given nVidia has offered to write and maintain a driver ... if
we're going this route, the correct solution is to pay someone to
make the changes nVidia
Bruce Cran wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:04:51 -0500
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob McConnell wrote:
2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your
home directory. Open any application and access files in that
directory as easily as when they are on the local
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
While I agree that, without some kind of supporting argument, the
statement that Linux systems are low end Unix replacements are kind
of
spurious sounding, I don't think that market share is really an
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 07:39:39PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
unix is not windows replacements. all of these GUI overlays for which that
much noise is heard are not just overlays, but are poorly designed even
more poorly than windows.
Windows is poorly designed too but at least it's
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before
they
can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best way
to attack that problem is to find a
Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before
they
can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best
Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before
they
can match Microsoft's ease of use on the GUI. I believe the best
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 01:41:43PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:25:24PM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote:
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On the other hand, both Unix and Linux have a long way to go before
they
can match Microsoft's ease of use
Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to
redefine ease of use.
Bob McConnell
ease of use is always relative to the person using.
Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate
investment some 20-odd years ago still pays, even
This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they
unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the
investment pays off.
but most people don't like to learn. even once.
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Tyson Boellstorff wrote:
Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to
redefine ease of use.
Bob McConnell
ease of use is always relative to the person using.
Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate
investment some
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:23:49PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they
unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the
investment pays off.
but most people don't like to learn. even once.
You need to begin
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:04:51 -0500
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob McConnell wrote:
2. Do an SMB mount of remote directories onto the desktop or your
home directory. Open any application and access files in that
directory as easily as when they are on the local drive.
[...]
also, my
On Behalf Of Chad Perrin
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:53:03PM +,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your assertion that linux is both low end unix and low end windows
replacement is factually wrong: As a high end unix I think it's
earned it's stripes, currently dominating the top 500 supercomputer
This
shows more than a marginal increase in market share. It suggests that
Sun and others have good reason to be nervous about their future
prospects,
and need to find new ways to make money.
there is no sense of buying Sun hardware. they make excellent hardware but
with more than excellent
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:39:39 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there is no sense of buying Sun hardware. they make excellent
hardware but with more than excellent price
You are right about that. The quality is very high; prices are too.
and their unix is damn slow compared
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:53:03PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Forgive the top-posting)
Why?
Your assertion that linux is both low end unix and low end windows
replacement is factually wrong: As a high end unix I think it's earned it's
stripes, currently dominating the top 500
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:40:09 +0100, Manfred Usselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just a small example, how limited Windows really is: Even today it is
not possible to configure the standard interface of Windows XP (Luna)
in any other color than blue, olive green and silver. LOL.
Not to mention
Vodacom - let your email find you!
-Original Message-
From: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:13
To: Zbigniew Szalbot[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
usage or need.
You seem to be reserving FBSD only
I think the fundamental problem with the Windows UI is that it's trying
to cater for both advanced (e.g Shutdown, Restart, Sleep, Hibernate or
well funny - that being able to restart is being advanced user. good to
know.
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:07:14 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the fundamental problem with the Windows UI is that it's
trying to cater for both advanced (e.g Shutdown, Restart, Sleep,
Hibernate or
well funny - that being able to restart is being advanced user.
After having been burned with an AMD cpu/mobo combination that wouldn't run
6.x reliabably which I consequently had to sell, I'm going to ask first.
My search of the archives (questions and hardware) came up empty, but that
seems likely given that both say their archive index was last updated
is very good in hardware support now, with most of drivers being
very stable and high performance.
for now there is no such thing, except ReactOS which is in early alpha
state.
hardware can you produce drivers for. Presumbably Apple Mac OSX have most of
the hardware drivers, so can you
as you said.
nitty-gritty of the OS in order to achieve the best results. Of course,
the best results are very good indeed, and in my humble opinion, well
worth the effort required.
Installing on laptop type hardware is a tricky proposition: it's very much
luck of the draw whether your particular
unix programs, but in every other respect is not like unix
as you said.
nitty-gritty of the OS in order to achieve the best results. Of course,
the best results are very good indeed, and in my humble opinion, well
worth the effort required.
Installing on laptop type hardware
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar typed:
once again i repeat - FreeBSD is not windows replacement. it's unix.
All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will
say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right.
I totally disagree. Please note
is no Windows replacement you are
only discouraging fresh blood from entering the system. It is true
that the system has steep learning curve but it is not an elite system
for the chosen few. Contrary to what you think, the more people use
it, the more chance we get of (for example) hardware producers
All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will
say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right.
I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth,
i exactly repeat opinion of LOTS of windoze users that tried any unix GUI.
it's poor mans
usage or need.
You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be here
is someone that simply use unix an expert?
no.
By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are
and i will repeat it because it's true. it's every other unix replacement.
as linux
For FreeBSD supported laptops Lenovo as generally good choice.
Not anymore. They were when it was still IBM. Some in-depth discussion here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2008-July/010831.html
thanks for info. it was really on place as i told someone yesterday.
fortunately
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:13 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
usage or need.
You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be
here
is someone that simply use unix an expert?
no.
By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement
This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not
very powerful.
as KDE and Gnome and others.
when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have
read even the user interface of Mac OS X is much better that Windows
although they have a much smaller
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 03:40:09PM +0100, Manfred Usselmann wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:13 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
usage or need.
You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be
here
is someone that simply use unix an expert?
question that goes down many roads, including monopolistic
practices, effective marketing and the fact that Apple controls both their
OS and hardware, which made it less competitive for many years. Better
does not always mean success in the marketplace. One of the best examples of
this is OS/2. When
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 12:23:24 +0100:
FreeBSD is very good in hardware support now, with most of drivers being
very stable and high performance.
for now there is no such thing, except ReactOS which is in early alpha
state.
Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux
I am one of the few UNIX administrators who prefers to use Windows (XP
or 2K; cannot stand Vista) as a desktop/workstation operating system.
if you need really windows-like computing/desktop-environments/whatever is
called they RIGHT - windows is most windows like and it's good choice.
Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at
hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in
for benchmarks doing same thing over and over, or same thing in parallel
linux can even be better.
but try running many different tasks in parallel
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 16:51:16 +0100:
Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at
hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in
for benchmarks doing same thing over and over, or same thing in parallel
linux can
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:16:37PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar typed:
All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will
say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right.
I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth,
i exactly repeat opinion
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:18:13PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
usage or need.
You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be here
is someone that simply use unix an expert?
no.
By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are
and i will
Hi,
but it is an MS replacement. If you overwrite your MS-Win with
FreeBSD, it completely replaces it. It will do everything you need
except look like MS-Win and people who are trying to get out of MS-land
are happy to find that to be true.Give them a hand rather than
a kick in the
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 03:49:40PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not
very powerful.
as KDE and Gnome and others.
when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have
read even the user interface of
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:16:37PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will
say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right.
I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth,
i exactly repeat opinion
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:54:48AM -0500, Dan wrote:
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 16:51:16 +0100:
Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at
hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in
for benchmarks doing same
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:54:48AM -0500, Dan wrote:
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 16:51:16
+0100:
Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at
hardware level. You
Guys,
stephen jackson wrote:
I have read briefly on FreeBSD and it seems to be the winner on speed and
stability versus Linux and of course MS Windows.
[ ... ]
Can we play cool with each other? If someone likes/has to use Gnu/Linux over
FreeBSD or for that matter
any other operating system,
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