ZFS partitioning

2013-05-12 Thread Roland van Laar
Hello, I'm following the raidz[1] and mirror[2] guides for a ZFS root. For a test installation on a 5 disk Virtualbox environment. I see that all the disks get the same partitions, including swap and boot? Why is that? And do I need those 5 boot and swap partitions? Thank you for your time,

Re: ZFS partitioning

2013-05-12 Thread Terje Elde
On 12. mai 2013, at 15:21, Roland van Laar rol...@micite.net wrote: I see that all the disks get the same partitions, including swap and boot? Why is that? And do I need those 5 boot and swap partitions? You don't need them, but there's a good chance you'll want them. Long story, short

Re: ZFS partitioning

2013-05-12 Thread Outback Dingo
notice my boot pool is a mirror, so disk 2 is identical to disk1, so if disk1 ever dies, logically i could boot from disk two pool: tank state: ONLINE scan: scrub repaired 0 in 0h0m with 0 errors on Sat May 11 13:20:41 2013 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank

Re: ZFS partitioning

2013-05-12 Thread Paul Kraus
On May 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com wrote: notice my boot pool is a mirror, so disk 2 is identical to disk1, so if disk1 ever dies, logically i could boot from disk two The zpool mirror does not mirror the bootblock. You need to manually add that to all

Re: ZFS partitioning

2013-05-12 Thread Outback Dingo
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com wrote: notice my boot pool is a mirror, so disk 2 is identical to disk1, so if disk1 ever dies, logically i could boot from disk two The zpool

Re: ZFS partitioning

2013-05-12 Thread Joshua Isom
You may not want to mirror the boot block. That way you can update one boot block, test it before copying the other. If the new boot block fails to boot, the BIOS should go to the next hard drive and boot the mirror. I don't know if it's possible to detect which drive you're actually

Re: OT: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-19 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 09:00 -0600, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Standard practice for this list is to Cc the responder and the list, because people are not required to subscribe to post. That makes sense and does

OT: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 15:37 -0700, leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Please Cc responses to the mailing list I know that it's tolerated by the FreeBSD lists, but for most mailing lists nowadays it's common to reply to the list only. Most MUA nowadays provide an option to automatically

Re: OT: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-18 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 15:37 -0700, leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Please Cc responses to the mailing list Actually, I had written that in a reply. I know that it's tolerated by the FreeBSD lists, but for most mailing lists nowadays it's

Re: OT: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 09:00 -0600, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Standard practice for this list is to Cc the responder and the list, because people are not required to subscribe to post. That makes sense and does explain why my last mail came through the list,

Re: OT: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:15:43AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 15:37 -0700, leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Please Cc responses to the mailing list I know that it's tolerated by the FreeBSD lists, but for most mailing lists nowadays it's common to reply to the

Fwd: Re: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-17 Thread leeoliveshackelford
---BeginMessage--- On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Dear Mr. Block, Greetings. Thank you for your response to my message. Your instruction to change the name of the disk drive from ah0 to aha0 worked. I can now boot FreeBSD. The next trick will be to attempt to

Re: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-16 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013, leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Good evening, Free BSD enthusiasts. Thank you to each of the several people who have responded to my previous messages. I have made significant progress, but am now flummoxed at the installation of the boot loader. The handbook

Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-15 Thread leeoliveshackelford
Good evening, Free BSD enthusiasts. Thank you to each of the several people who have responded to my previous messages. I have made significant progress, but am now flummoxed at the installation of the boot loader. The handbook says to run this command, boot0cfg -B ad0. When I run this

Re: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-15 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:11:24 -0700 (PDT) leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Good evening, Free BSD enthusiasts. Thank you to each of the several good morning, people who have responded to my previous messages. I have made significant progress, but am now flummoxed at the

Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-14 Thread leeoliveshackelford
Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install FreeBSD 9.1 on a dual-boot configuration with Windows XP. I am using bsdinstall. I do not wish for the partition table to be changed. How do I instruct bsdinstall to skip the re-partitioning step? It gives an error message

Re: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-14 Thread Damien Fleuriot
to skip the re-partitioning step? It gives an error message that it cannot write a certain file because the medium is write-only. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Yours truly, Newby Lee You're trying to install to your windows partition, that won't work. You need free space on the drive

Re: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-14 Thread Bejoy Thomas
Hi Lee, One option to have a FreeBSD system on winxp, without any partitioning to the existing hard disk, is to have freebsd as a vm on virtualbox. For having a dual boot system you would need to partition the existing disk . If you have a second had disk you could select it and let FreeBSD

Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-14 Thread leeoliveshackelford
Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. I am attempting to install FreeBSD 9.1 on a dual-boot configuration with Windows XP. I am using bsdinstall. I do not wish for the partition table to be changed. How do I instruct bsdinstall to skip the re-partitioning step? It gives an error message

Re: Installing 9.1 without re-partitioning hard drive

2013-03-14 Thread Ben Cottrell
Lee, Are you using DOS-style or GPT partitions? I'm assuming DOS-style, and the rest of this email is only correct if that's the case, so correct me if I'm wrong. There's actually two partition tables at work here -- the big one, that lives at the start of the physical disk and divides up the

Re: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
with the regular installer. Install - Keymap..., Hostname..., [*] doc games lib32 ports [ ] src - Partitioning: Manual - ada0s1 57GB BSD - Auto - ada0 ok - Partition (not entire Disk) - Add Partition Type: freebsd Size: 2551kB Mountpoint *?* continuing didn't work Regards, Ralf

Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Since partitioning didn't work with FreeBSD 9.0 64bit, I tried PC-BSD 8.2 64bit and partitioning worked. I had PC-BSD installed on ada0s1, this was the fstab: /dev/label/rootfs0 / ufs rw,noatime 1 1 /dev/label/swap0none

PS: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Screenshots from Linux's GParted: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-012707am.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-014310am.php Perhaps somebody can exactly write the steps I have to do, to install FreeBSD on /dev/sda1. I guess a swap and / is enough, but swap, /,

Re: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Polytropon
know if gpart supports BSD-typical partitioning (i. e. partitions inside a slice)... Option: The partition data has been lost. Only the slice enclosing them has been kept. So I neither can install FreeBSD, nor can I restore the dumped PC-BSD. Is there no easy to use partitioning tool

Re: PS: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:54:59 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Screenshots from Linux's GParted: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-012707am.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-014310am.php Judging from the screenshots, /dev/sda1 = /dev/ad0s1, a DOS primary partition,

Re: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 02:17 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:05:00 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: ada0 298 GB MBR ada0s1 57 GB freebsd ada0s2 240 GB EBR [snip] gpart show also doesn't display the 3 ufs and the swap any more. Did it previously show them? Yes, they

Re: PS: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
... On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 02:17 +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:54:59 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Screenshots from Linux's GParted: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-012707am.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-014310am.php Judging from

Re: PS: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Screenshots from Linux's GParted: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-012707am.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12172012-014310am.php Perhaps somebody can exactly write the steps I have to do, to install FreeBSD on /dev/sda1.

Re: Partitioning - please not that again

2012-12-16 Thread Warren Block
it previously show them? I don't know if gpart supports BSD-typical partitioning (i. e. partitions inside a slice)... Yes, it does. But it won't show them unless you look in ada0s1. bsdlabel partitions are inside slices. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
This is what I've got: # gpart show ada0 = 63 625142385 ada0 MBR (298G) 63 121274683 - free - (57G) [snip] IIUC I now have to do: # gpart add -s 64k -t freebsd-boot -l boot0 ada0 # gpart add -s 8G -t freebsd-swap -l swap0 ada0 # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 256k -l root0 ada0

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Polytropon
to format them with newfs. If I see this correctly, you have created one big / partition (for everything); this is _valid_ and possible, but may be less optimum for a couple of reasons. Doing functional partitioning requires at least an idea of how much disk space will be needed per functional part

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
On 2012.11.25 12:26, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Here I already don't understand how large the swap should be. Really 2 * size of the RAM? It depends on use patterns and the amount of RAM in your computer. 1.5* to 2* installed memory is a traditional works for most value, but I feel it's outdated for

Re: [Bulk] Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
/ partition (for everything); this is _valid_ and possible, but may be less optimum for a couple of reasons. Until now I haven't done anything. It's still free. Doing functional partitioning requires at least an idea of how much disk space will be needed per functional part, and this can differ

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I'm reading http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html at the moment. Seemingly there are many outdated howtos first hits for searching with Google. I frst read 64k for boot and now 512k. IIUC Install the GPT bootcode into the boot partition has to be done and is independent of the

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
On 2012.11.25 13:57, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IIUC Install the GPT bootcode into the boot partition has to be done and is independent of the GRUB in the MBR. Not in your case. You won't need bootcode other than GRUB's (in the MBR, and the Linux partition where the bulk of it is installed).

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
At the moment I still have: This is what I've got: # gpart show ada0 = 63 625142385 ada0 MBR (298G) 63 121274683 - free - (57G) [snip] Regarding to http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html for my set up it should be ok to run: # gpart add -t freebsd-boot -l boot

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 14:13 +0100, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: On 2012.11.25 13:57, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IIUC Install the GPT bootcode into the boot partition has to be done and is independent of the GRUB in the MBR. Not in your case. You won't need bootcode other than GRUB's (in the MBR, and the

Re: [Bulk] Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Polytropon
for this case in specialized Linux distributions. Doing functional partitioning requires at least an idea of how much disk space will be needed per functional part, and this can differ from use as server or desktop, or what kind of software you run. On Linux I only use /. Yes, this is common

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Polytropon
# newfs -U /dev/gpt/root Maybe you would also consider using -J (journaling). Still the traditional approach when using functional partitioning is to format the / partition without soft updates (-U), but in your case, using them on a everything in one / partition is okay. # gpart bootcode -b /boot

Wheres the FreeBSD PBR ? (was Re: Manually partitioning using gpart / wh)

2012-11-25 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
On 2012.11.25 14:35, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't need it, but I could add it for what ever worst case emergency scenario and GRUB in the MBR anyway will work? I don't see how it could ever come in handy, and I'm not sure it wouldn't do any hamr either. The /boot/gptboot code to be written weighs

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Bruce Cran
On 25/11/2012 12:29, Polytropon wrote: Won't be wrong; my understanding of the rule was 2 * size of _possible_ RAM in the machine. But disk space is cheap, so 8 G should be fine. But again, the requirement for the swap partition depends on what you're doing with the machine and what you're

Re: Wheres the FreeBSD PBR ? (was Re: Manually partitioning using gpart / wh)

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 15:10 +0100, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: On 2012.11.25 14:35, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't need it, but I could add it for what ever worst case emergency scenario and GRUB in the MBR anyway will work? I don't see how it could ever come in handy, and I'm not sure it wouldn't

OT: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 14:37 +0100, Polytropon wrote: BTW, I still have some Atari ST hardware here. Impressive what has been possible with this (quite limited) machines, but with _efficient_ programs... I still have the C64 in some cartons and the Atari ST is still beside my PC, but I don't

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Polytropon, I'll use journaling. I've to apologize for my broken English. Regarding to the comment line my question is, if it's enough to us a # at the beginning, or if it's needed to begin and to end with a #. I suspect just a # at the beginning is needed.

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:42:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Polytropon, I'll use journaling. That should give you additional security in integrity, especially on a everything in one / partition. I've to apologize for my broken English. No understanding problem here. Regarding to the comment

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote: This is what I've got: # gpart show ada0 = 63 625142385 ada0 MBR (298G) 63 121274683 - free - (57G) [snip] IIUC I now have to do: # gpart add -s 64k -t freebsd-boot -l boot0 ada0 # gpart add -s 8G -t freebsd-swap -l swap0 ada0 # gpart

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 13:49 -0700, Warren Block wrote: Realize this multi-boot stuff is painful and inconvenient and install everything in a VM? Unfortunately this is impossible. I'll install FreeBSD, because there's a driver for my sound card, a RME HDSPe AIO, that perhaps enables to use all

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
Hi Warren, On 2012.11.25 21:49, Warren Block wrote: For a hard drive, 4K alignment and starting the main partition at 1M is good. Why would one leave 1024 full kbits before the first partition on a HDD ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 02:22 +0100, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: Hi Warren, On 2012.11.25 21:49, Warren Block wrote: For a hard drive, 4K alignment and starting the main partition at 1M is good. Why would one leave 1024 full kbits before the first partition on a HDD ? Create a partition for /.

Re: Manually partitioning using gpart

2012-11-25 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: On 2012.11.25 21:49, Warren Block wrote: For a hard drive, 4K alignment and starting the main partition at 1M is good. Why would one leave 1024 full kbits before the first partition on a HDD ? The second only is only relevant to GPT. We went over

Re: Partitioning with gpart

2012-08-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Lynn Steven Killingsworth blue.seahorse.syndic...@gmail.com: I have installed PC-BSD 9.1 RC1 last week. Very nice I must say. The default file system is zfs. I have one storage disk which is ufs and another which is on an mbr partition. I thought I would format the mbr disk with zfs

Re: Partitioning with gpart

2012-08-29 Thread Lynn Steven Killingsworth
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:33:16 -0400, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: I have installed PC-BSD 9.1 RC1 last week. Very nice I must say. The default file system is zfs. I have one storage disk which is ufs and another which is on

Partitioning with gpart

2012-08-28 Thread Lynn Steven Killingsworth
Dear FreeBSD - I have installed PC-BSD 9.1 RC1 last week. Very nice I must say. The default file system is zfs. I have one storage disk which is ufs and another which is on an mbr partition. I thought I would format the mbr disk with zfs and move everything from the ufs disk and then

Re: Partitioning with gpart

2012-08-28 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: I have installed PC-BSD 9.1 RC1 last week. Very nice I must say. The default file system is zfs. I have one storage disk which is ufs and another which is on an mbr partition. I thought I would format the mbr disk with zfs and move

Difficulties partitioning disk FreeBSD 9.0

2012-01-16 Thread Bernard Higonnet
I am trying to install 9.0 on a small notebook on which I have previously successfully installed 8.2. I don't get very far. When defining partitions I have opted for Guided and chosen a drive with enough space (3.5GB), Entire disk. I am then asked if I'm sure I want to proceed, to which I

Re: Difficulties partitioning disk FreeBSD 9.0

2012-01-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, January 16, 2012 a las 09:45:23AM +0100, Bernard Higonnet escribió: I am trying to install 9.0 on a small notebook on which I have previously successfully installed 8.2. I don't get very far. When defining partitions I have opted for Guided and chosen a drive with enough

Re: Difficulties partitioning disk FreeBSD 9.0

2012-01-16 Thread Bernard Higonnet
On 16/01/2012 09:55, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, January 16, 2012 a las 09:45:23AM +0100, Bernard Higonnet escribió: I am trying to install 9.0 on a small notebook on which I have previously successfully installed 8.2. I don't get very far. When defining partitions I have opted for

Problems with EFI / partitioning with FreeBSD ONLY mac mini ... from USB drive ...

2011-10-31 Thread Mm Bsd
I booted the 8.2-RELEASE CD on my Intel mac mini, which has a thumb drive plugged into USB. I promptly entered FIXIT and used dd to zero out the ENTIRE internal hard drive.  I may use it, I may not, but for now I want to reduce variables and I don't want remnants of OSX on that disk tripping

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-05 Thread perryh
Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: How do I wipe the whole thing in one go so that I can start afresh? gpart destroy ad4 ?? Yes, but first you must delete all of the slices/partitions. Think of it this way: you must go backwards down the path you just came with a delete for

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-05 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:35 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: How do I wipe the whole thing in one go so that I can start afresh? gpart destroy ad4 ?? Yes, but first you must delete all of the slices/partitions. Think of it this way: you must

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-05 Thread Erik Nørgaard
On 5/6/11 7:03 AM, Robert Simmons wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container # gpart create -s bsd ad4s1 # Init with a

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-05 Thread Warren Block
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: There's a sample in the second half of my disk setup article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Looks good. I have a few critiques: 1) Linux and FreeBSD

Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Hi: I just realized how many years ago I haven't been partitioning any disks .. this system is so stable :) So, now I see I have gpart as alternative to fdisk/bsdlabel. I have a 320GB disk which will be dedicated to FBSD, is there any advantage - or any problems (problems as in I've never

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: - or any problems (problems as in I've never tried that before) - using gpart instead of the old scheme? Sorry for the double post, but the only problem that I've encountered is after creating a encrypted provider with

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Erik Nørgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote: I just realized how many years ago I haven't been partitioning any disks .. this system is so stable :) So, now I see I have gpart as alternative to fdisk/bsdlabel. gpart(8) from my experience is far superior to all

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Warren Block
archive, I've posted basic instructions for gpart/GPT partitioning recently, perhaps there needs to be a section added to Handbook 18.3.2 describing the basics. Unfortunately, the only mention in the handbook is a link to the man page in section 18.3. There's a sample in the second half of my disk

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: There's a sample in the second half of my disk setup article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Looks good. I have a few critiques: 1) Linux and FreeBSD do not have alignment requirements, as far as

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Matthias Apitz
with the proper bootcode for what you want to do. If you search this mailing list's archive, I've posted basic instructions for gpart/GPT partitioning recently, perhaps there needs to be a section added to Handbook 18.3.2 describing the basics. Unfortunately, the only mention in the handbook

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 06:40:22 +0200, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an MBR # gpart add -t freebsd ad4# Create a BSD container #

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:59:44 AM Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 06:40:22 +0200, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with an

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 08:03, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following sequence: # gpart create -s mbr ad4 # Init the disk with

Re: Partitioning with gpart or old style slices?

2011-06-04 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 08:03, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:40:22 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: Since some time I'm as well using gpart(8) to setup new systems with the following

Re: Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS)

2011-05-05 Thread krad
a fair amount of RAM. (And I don't care about crash dumps on this box.) The boot sector doesn't really matter as much; if I go with a dedicated swap partition that will probably also hold the boot sector. Otherwise, I'm leaning towards the SSD, as I'm already planning on partitioning

Re: Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS)

2011-05-05 Thread Daniel Staal
I think you may be agonizing to much. You would have to to seriously bad to make it slow and even then its a relative thing. Giving it 4GB ZIL, 8 GB swap, and 28 gb l2arc will make it rapid and cover you for most things. Putting the swap on the 250 gig drive wont make much difference though

Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS)

2011-05-04 Thread Daniel Staal
on this box.) The boot sector doesn't really matter as much; if I go with a dedicated swap partition that will probably also hold the boot sector. Otherwise, I'm leaning towards the SSD, as I'm already planning on partitioning that, and I'm less likely to pull it out. Or, of course

Partitioning/slicing USB HD

2011-01-16 Thread Chris Brennan
So I've hot a 60GB 2.5 IDE Hard Drive in a USB Enclosure. Thing works like a champ, even in FreeBSD. I'm curious the best (or most efficient?) way to cut the drive up. My Goal is to have a bootable slice (5ish GB for the latest stable DVD), some free space if I need to write to a location reliably

partitioning a gmirror (was Re: sysinstall vs gmirror)

2010-10-04 Thread perryh
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Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-05-21 Thread Pete Carah
Some points - I've done most of these... 1. Grub can boot from a secondary partition (my current laptop has a recovery partition in 1, vista (b) in 2, fbsd in 3, and linux in 4 as 2 secondary partitions.) works fine. Grub doesn't boot vista correctly, but handles bsd fine and (of

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-27 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/4/26 Jorg Andersson jorg_anders...@lavabit.com: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all I remember reading they aren't in /dev/ but still is mountable. Is this still the case? They show up just fine here

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:45:07AM -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. I have FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well as CentOS 5.3 Linux. Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-27 Thread Gyrd Thane Lange
ill...@gmail.com skrev: 2009/4/26 Jorg Andersson jorg_anders...@lavabit.com: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all I remember reading they aren't in /dev/ but still is mountable. Is this still the case? They

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-27 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:30:43 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:45:07AM -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: FreeBSD is not happy with MS 'extended partitions'. But, I don't really see your problem. You are not using Microsloth for anything. That's

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:17:47PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:30:43 -0400, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:45:07AM -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: FreeBSD is not happy with MS 'extended partitions'. But, I don't really see your

Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread Michael David Crawford
I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. I have FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well as CentOS 5.3 Linux. Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - slices in the FreeBSD parlance, if I understand correctly: - A

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/4/26 Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.com: I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing.  I have FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well as CentOS 5.3 Linux. Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - slices in the

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread Tim Judd
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Michael David Crawford m...@prgmr.comwrote: I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. I have FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well as CentOS 5.3 Linux. Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary

Re: Partitioning for multiple systems

2009-04-26 Thread Jorg Andersson
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all I remember reading they aren't in /dev/ but still is mountable. Is this still the case? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
AFAIK the danger is that someone boots the machine with an installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the disk as unformatted -- hence obviously containing nothing important -- because it doesn't have a recognizable MBR. some people rarely boot other OS :)

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 11:28:32PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dangerous is probably overstating the issue a bit ... AFAIK the danger is that someone boots the machine with an installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the disk as unformatted -- hence obviously containing

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 09:16:00AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: AFAIK the danger is that someone boots the machine with an installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the disk as unformatted -- hence obviously containing nothing important -- because it doesn't have a

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-05 Thread perryh
Dangerous is probably overstating the issue a bit ... AFAIK the danger is that someone boots the machine with an installer for some other OS, and that installer treats the disk as unformatted -- hence obviously containing nothing important -- because it doesn't have a recognizable MBR.

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Da Rock
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:55 -0500, Robert Huff wrote: Da Rock writes: Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. So you've never booted from a disk that

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Robert Huff
Da Rock writes: Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file system?

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
dedicated mode increase the space available to use? Partitioning normally takes up space so a HDD loses about 10% of usable space doesn't it, so the space used by partitioning is can now be used as filespace. No. Slicing and Partitioning take up negligible space. Building a file system on the disk

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Jerry McAllister
time I used anything else. So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file system? You are getting your terms scrambled here. Partitioning has nothing directly to do with creating a file system. You can build a filesystem (with newfs) on just about any piece of disk whether

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have never booted a FreeBSD system from a disk which contained any other operating system. I have only used dangerously dadicated mode for FreeBSD, except when sysinstall made selecting/implementing that too much work. almost like me except i don't use sysinstall, and manually

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-04 Thread Da Rock
to boot from a dedicated disk? Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. So you've never booted from a disk that has been partitioned as a file system? You are getting your terms scrambled here. Partitioning has nothing directly to do with creating a file system. You

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-03 Thread Da Rock
mount point Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? 2) Does using dedicated mode increase the space available to use? Partitioning normally takes up space so a HDD loses about 10% of usable space doesn't it, so the space

Re: UFS partitioning

2008-12-03 Thread Robert Huff
Da Rock writes: Excuse my nose in here- I just have a couple of questions. 1) It IS possible to boot from a dedicated disk? Yes. Can't remember the last time I used anything else. 2) Does using dedicated mode increase the space available to use? Partitioning normally takes

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