RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAve Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:29 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions Don't wonder if qmail has flaws, go to CERT.org and search first

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-07 Thread Andrey Shuvikov
Thanks a lot for all your suggestions! I will probably still start from exim but at least I know now that the choice is not that critical, especially for a small home server. Thanks again, Andrey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: mail server setup questions - OT answer

2007-09-07 Thread Bill Vermillion
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 20:40 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] exclaimed Las Cucarachas entran, Pero no pueden salir, and then rambled on saying with: Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:28:59 -0400 From: DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail server setup questions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Bill

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Jim Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:04 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Nikola Lecic; Russell E. Meek; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions I would submit you think you do

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Crist Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:21 PM To: Andrey Shuvikov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions On Sep 5, 2007, at 2:05 PMSep 5, 2007, Andrey

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Nikola Lecic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:20 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 Ted

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikola Lecic Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:13 AM To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Eray Aslan; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: mail server setup questions I'm very

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:12 PM To: Andrey Shuvikov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:37:11AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in What patches do I need

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Chad Perrin
Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: mail server setup questions I'm very disappointed that more official people on this list didn't say something like Ted, please respect our users from all countries, including those two countries you have mentioned Perhaps the silence might give you pause

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Bob Johnson
On 9/5/07, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:37:11AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. [...] I just realised that

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread Bill Vermillion
In the last exciting episode of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] saga on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 06:27 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] as heard to say: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:37:11 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail server setup questions To: Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andrey

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-06 Thread DAve
Bill Vermillion wrote: In the last exciting episode of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] saga on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 06:27 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] as heard to say: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:37:11 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail server setup questions To: Bob Johnson [EMAIL

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russell E. Meek Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:20 PM To: Jim Stapleton Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions Quoting Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Kind of like the country of Iraq buying a nuclear device - they don't know what they have, don't know how to build it, and are not qualified at all to use it. [...] Please save us from these words of wisdom.

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:03:20 -0400 Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. Jim, - incoming email + delivery : postfix . Really well documented. Haven't found a feature not implemented. As

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nikola Lecic Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:41 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions On Tue, 4 Sep

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Eray Aslan
On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Stapleton
: Re: mail server setup questions On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Kind of like the country of Iraq buying a nuclear device - they don't know what they have, don't know how to build it, and are not qualified at all to use

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Stapleton
Jim posted here asking for help, using words and language that gives serious doubt that he is competent to run a mailserver of any kind. Knowledgeable and competant are two different things. If I were not competant, I would not bother attempting to get that knowledge that I lack. I don't

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Predrag Punosevac wrote: On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists warped

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 05 September 2007 12:34:45 Jim Stapleton wrote: Thank all of you for your suggestions, I'll look at them. This is a mail server for me and maybe a few friends. I plan on running incoming SMTP, maybe at some point outgoing (requiring authentication/SSL, definetly no relay), no

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 03:14:37AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: I thought were discussing the configuration of the mail server not your hatred toward us Serbs, Iraqis and God knows whom else. But then on the second thought maybe you are trying to teach us how to configure the spam

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists warped the

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hi, 2007/9/5, Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag Punosevac Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mail server setup questions On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] Your

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eray Aslan Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:05 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions Good advice. I am sure you could have written your response without

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:44:15 +0200 Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 2007/9/5, Nikola Lecic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply

RE: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Jim Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:55 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Nikola Lecic; Russell E. Meek; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions Jim posted here asking for help, using

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, Zbigniew, please don't teach me lessons in politeness. Ted posted two very offensive mails and everyone has a right to publicly reply to publicly posted offence. If that's problem for you, then ignore this thread. Be careful when using word rubbish. My apologies. I shoudn't have used

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread N.J. Thomas
* Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-04 18:03:20 -0400]: I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I would second the recommendation for Postfix -- and Dovecot for POP. Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good web

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 08:51:18AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eray Aslan Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:05 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:28:51 -0400 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on folks. You'll never get anywhere in a flame war with Ted. He changes the ground under you any time it is convenient. Jerry, I appreciate your good will, but he doesn't change ground. And this is not a flame

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Andrey Shuvikov
Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Thanks, Andrey ___

[Fwd: Re: mail server setup questions]

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
---BeginMessage--- Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Thanks, Andrey

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Thanks, Andrey

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:21:56PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Eric
Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Exim is a capable mailer as is

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Eric Crist
On Sep 5, 2007, at 2:05 PMSep 5, 2007, Andrey Shuvikov wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task?

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Bob Johnson
On 9/5/07, Andrey Shuvikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? It's

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Stapleton
I would submit you think you do. For example, are you planning on putting a webmail interface on the server? A lot of people do. Well if you do and you put a scrap of CGI on there that has a hole in it a spammer can come along and cause that to relay mail from incoming http right into your

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello 2007/9/5, Andrey Shuvikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? It is

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 04:52:56PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: On 9/5/07, Andrey Shuvikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Mittwoch 05 September 2007 21:14:17 schrieb Predrag Punosevac: We have a exim at the University of Arizona and works really well (but I am just a user not a sysadmin). Me, personally, I can only swear by Postfix. I've set up numerous Postfix mail servers over the last two years, and I've

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-05 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in What patches do I need to make this do something useful? or What third-party tool do I need

mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Jim Stapleton
I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good web site for configuring it as it would be done

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Eric Crist
On Sep 4, 2007, at 5:03 PMSep 4, 2007, Jim Stapleton wrote: I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could you all suggest to me what you

Re: mail server setup questions

2007-09-04 Thread Russell E. Meek
Quoting Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good web