Re: 7.4 - X -configure gives No devices to configure

2009-02-13 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 03:31:43PM -0500, Robert Noland wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:42 +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  Upgrade from 7.3 to 7.4 made X unsuable on FBSD 7.1-stable i386.
  I followed the UPDATE procedures, had no errors on build,
  but on X -configure I get 
  
  No devices to configure.  Configuration failed.
  
  This is a Compaq Armada 1700 laptop, old I know, but 7.3 worked
  fine. The graphics is by Chips and Technologies, nothing fancy,
  and the driver is xf86-video-chips-1.2.1. The full log is below.
  
  What's going on?
  
  many thanks
  anton
  
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  X.Org X Server 1.5.3
  Release Date: 5 November 2008
  X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
  Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 
  Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk 7.1-STABLE 
  FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 31 14:31:50 GMT 2009 
  me...@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARMADA1700 i386
  Build Date: 09 February 2009  10:16:23AM
   
  Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
  to make sure that you have the latest version.
  Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
  (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Feb 11 10:15:59 2009
  (II) Loader magic: 0x81bede0
  (II) Module ABI versions:
  X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
  X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
  X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
  X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
  X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6
  (II) Loader running on freebsd
  (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
  (--) using VT number 9
  
  (--) PCI:*(0...@0:8:0) Chips and Technologies F6 HiQVPro rev 168, Mem @ 
  0x4000/0, BIOS @ 0x/65536
  List of video drivers:
  chips
  (II) LoadModule: chips
  
  (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//chips_drv.so
  (II) Module chips: vendor=X.Org Foundation
  compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.2.1
  Module class: X.Org Video Driver
  ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1
  (II) System resource ranges:
  [0] -1  0   0x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MX[B]E(B)
  [1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
  [2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
  [3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
  [4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
  [5] -1  0   0x - 0x00ff (0x100) IX[B]
  (II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:08:0
  No devices to configure.  Configuration failed.
 
 I'll need to see a pciconf -lv, but it looks like the chips driver isn't
 recognizing your chip.  You could try the vesa driver.  The chips driver
 has not been maintained in quite a while I would say.

#pciconf -lv
hos...@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x04600e11 chip=0x71928086 rev=0x02 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82443BX/ZX 440BX/ZX CPU to PCI Bridge (AGP Not Implemented)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
is...@pci0:0:7:0:   class=0x060100 card=0x chip=0x71108086 rev=0x02 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M ISA Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-ISA
atap...@pci0:0:7:1: class=0x010180 card=0x chip=0x71118086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M IDE Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = ATA
uh...@pci0:0:7:2:   class=0x0c0300 card=0x chip=0x71128086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M USB Interface'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
no...@pci0:0:7:3:   class=0x068000 card=0x chip=0x71138086 rev=0x02 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M Power Management Controller'
class  = bridge
vgap...@pci0:0:8:0: class=0x03 card=0xb0490e11 chip=0x00e5102c rev=0xa8 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Asiliant (Chips And Technologies)'
device = 'F6 HiQVPro GUI Accelerator'
class  = display
subclass   = VGA
c...@pci0:0:17:0:   class=0x060700 card=0xb0470e11 chip=0xac17104c rev=0x02 
hdr=0x02
vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)'
device = 'PCI1220 PC Card CardBus Controller'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-CardBus
c...@pci0:0:17:1:   class=0x060700 card=0xb0470e11 chip=0xac17104c rev=0x02 
hdr=0x02
vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)'
device = 'PCI1220 PC Card CardBus Controller'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-CardBus
r...@pci0:1:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x042810bd chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter'
class  

Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:00:16 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:
   1) It was my understanding one has to force-mount a dirty
 filesuystem.  IF this sounds like a practice best left to senior
 Jedi Masters ... it porbably is.

Mounting possibly defective file systems is not a good idea. If it's
possible, boot into SUM via boot -s first, check partitions (unmounted!)
and then mount -a. Use exit to bring up MUM afterwards.

Setting background_fsck=NO in /etc/rc.conf may increase boot time
if problems occur, but can be useful to first check for errors, and
then bring up the system, instead of bringing up the system with maybe
problems on the partitions. I think this delay is something you can
affort.

It's not good to fsck a mounted partition anyway, because fsck can
repair minor defects on its own.



   2) I would _never_ let background fsck take care of things
 after a crash,  While hovering over the keyboard is a pain, I will
 find out how badly things are damaged, rather than have boatloads of
 files mysteriously vanish.

That's a good concept which I do follow myself, too. I spend some minutes
seeing fsck checking partitions after unclean shutdown, but when everything's
okay, there's no problem running into MUM *afterwards*.


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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar

seeing fsck checking partitions after unclean shutdown, but when everything's
okay, there's no problem running into MUM *afterwards*.


exactly like me i have
background_fsck=NO

in rc.conf

unix doesn't crash every few hours so it's really not a problem to wait a 
bit more

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xdm -debug 1 = Nothing left to do, exiting

2009-02-13 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On 6.4-stable alpha I cannot get xdm to become a daemon, it exits
immediately with empty /var/log/xdm.log.

I tried to use -debug option, and this is the output:

# xdm -debug 1
DisplayManager.errorLogFile/DisplayManager.ErrorLogFile value  /var/log/xdm.log
DisplayManager.daemonMode/DisplayManager.DaemonMode value true
DisplayManager.pidFile/DisplayManager.PidFile value  /var/run/xdm.pid
DisplayManager.lockPidFile/DisplayManager.LockPidFile value true
DisplayManager.authDir/DisplayManager.authDir value /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm
DisplayManager.autoRescan/DisplayManager.AutoRescan value true
DisplayManager.removeDomainname/DisplayManager.RemoveDomainname value true
DisplayManager.keyFile/DisplayManager.KeyFile value  /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-
keys
DisplayManager.accessFile/DisplayManager.AccessFile value  /usr/local/lib/X11/xd
m/Xaccess
DisplayManager.exportList/DisplayManager.ExportList value
DisplayManager.randomDevice/DisplayManager.RandomDevice value /dev/urandom
DisplayManager.greeterLib/DisplayManager.GreeterLib value /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm
/libXdmGreet.so
DisplayManager.choiceTimeout/DisplayManager.ChoiceTimeout value 15
DisplayManager.sourceAddress/DisplayManager.SourceAddress value false
DisplayManager.willing/DisplayManager.Willing value  su -m nobody -c /usr/local/
lib/X11/xdm/Xwilling
Nothing left to do, exiting
#

What does this mean? Some misconfiguration?
I haven't touched any config
files from x 7.3 to 7.4, and I followed the UPDATING.

Does ldd shed any light on this problem?:

#ldd -av /usr/local/bin/xdm
/usr/local/bin/xdm:
libXmu.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x160072000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x1600a4000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x16012e000)
libuuid.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x160148000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x16016a000)
libutil.so.5 = /lib/libutil.so.5 (0x16019e000)
libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x1601c)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x1601d4000)
libXpm.so.4 = /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x1601fa000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x16022)
libxcb.so.2 = /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 (0x16036a000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x16039c000)
libpthread-stubs.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so.0 
(0x1603b)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x1603c2000)
libcrypt.so.3 = /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x1603d8000)
libpam.so.3 = /usr/lib/libpam.so.3 (0x1603ee000)
librpcsvc.so.3 = /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.3 (0x160408000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x160424000)
/usr/local/lib/libXmu.so.6:
libXt.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x1600a4000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x16022)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x16012e000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x16016a000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x1601d4000)
/usr/local/lib/libXt.so.6:
libSM.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x16012e000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x16016a000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x16022)
/usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6:
libICE.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x16016a000)
libuuid.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x160148000)
/usr/local/lib/libXinerama.so.1:
libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x16022)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x1601d4000)
/usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6:
libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x16022)
libxcb.so.2 = /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 (0x16036a000)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x1603c2000)
libpthread-stubs.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so.0 
(0x1603b)
librpcsvc.so.3 = /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.3 (0x160408000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x16039c000)
/usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4:
libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x16022)
/usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6:
libxcb.so.2 = /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2 (0x16036a000)
librpcsvc.so.3 = /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.3 (0x160408000)
/usr/local/lib/libxcb.so.2:
libXau.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x16039c000)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x1603c2000)
libpthread-stubs.so.0 = /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so.0 
(0x1603b)


many thanks
anton

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nss_ldap problems with pthread_atfork on RELENG_7

2009-02-13 Thread Benjamin Lee
On 02/11/2009 04:20 PM, Benjamin Lee wrote:
 On 02/10/2009 10:08 PM, Arjun Singh wrote:
 Thanks for the advice. I tried to see if I could get nscd to solve anything,
 but it seems to just hide the problem, and not completely. With nscd
 enabled, the first login fails. After that, it's fine..

 I get the following in auth.log corresponding with the failed first login
 (with the correct pw):

 Feb 10 22:03:23 new-hkn sshd[59371]: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server
 - Server is unavailable
 Feb 10 22:03:23 new-hkn sshd[59371]: fatal: login_get_lastlog: Cannot find
 account for uid 1
 Feb 10 22:03:23 new-hkn sshd[59371]: syslogin_perform_logout: logout()
 returned an error
 [...]
 
 It appears to be a bug when using nss_ldap with RELENG_7, as I have been
 unable to reproduce the issue on machines running 6.2-RELEASE and
 6.3-RELEASE, regardless of the version of OpenLDAP.  In my environment,
 the machines use pam_krb5 for authentication, so the problem is
 definitely not related to pam_ldap.  Have you filed a problem report?

[changing the subject to be more descriptive]

I was able to work around the issue by removing pthread_atfork detection
from the configure script.  Specifically:

b...@dot /usr/ports/net/nss_ldap/work/nss_ldap-264 $ diff -u
configure.in{.orig,}
--- configure.in.orig   2009-02-13 01:56:31.0 -0800
+++ configure.in2009-02-13 01:56:58.0 -0800
@@ -230,7 +230,6 @@
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(gethostbyname)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(nsdispatch)
 AC_CHECK_LIB(pthread_nonshared, main)
-AC_CHECK_FUNCS(pthread_atfork)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(pthread_once)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(ether_aton)
 AC_CHECK_FUNCS(ether_ntoa)

I assume, then, that the defect is related to the change from libkse to
libthr in RELENG_7.  Does anybody have any further insight into this issue?


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Re: reread newsyslog.conf without reboot

2009-02-13 Thread Proskurin Kirill

Fbsd1 wrote:
How do I get the system to reread /etc/newsyslog.conf file with out 
rebooting the system?


/etc/rc.d/newsyslog restart

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Re: Iptables in FreeBSD

2009-02-13 Thread Moti Levy

On 02/12/09 3:31 AM, kashif imran wrote:

Hi all
I am a new to FreeBsd, can someone translate these iptables rules for freebsd?
  
/usr/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE

/usr/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state 
RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
/usr/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -j ACCEPT

  
regards

Imran



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Re: Iptables in FreeBSD

2009-02-13 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Moti Levy levym...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 02/12/09 3:31 AM, kashif imran wrote:

 Hi all
 I am a new to FreeBsd, can someone translate these iptables rules for
 freebsd?
  /usr/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
 /usr/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state
 RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
 /usr/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -j ACCEPT

  regards
 Imran


Hmm, depends on whether you are using IPFW, or IPF/IPNat or PF.

Which one do you use?
And BTW, what does the two rules do in Linux? If you say what they do, I can
interpret that into IPFilter/IPNat or PF language on FreeBSD.


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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Robert Huff

Wojciech Puchar writes:

  background_fsck=NO
  
  in rc.conf
  
  unix doesn't crash every few hours so it's really not a problem
  to wait a bit more

Cases and personal tolerance may vary.
One of my machines has a pair of 50gb SCSI disks; running two
full passes takes about 7 minutes.
I have no idea how long it might take to check a multi-terabyte
RAID-mumble set-up.
Still worth waiting ... in my opinion.


Robert Huff




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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:11:56 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:
   One of my machines has a pair of 50gb SCSI disks; running two
 full passes takes about 7 minutes.
   I have no idea how long it might take to check a multi-terabyte
 RAID-mumble set-up.

It's not *that* hard to wait for an fsck. I have 2 x 500 GB here at home,
you're right, it takes several minutes for fsck to check both disks, but
in the end, you're happy that either everything turns out to be okay or,
if problems occured, you see these problems and can decide how to handle
them.



   Still worth waiting ... in my opinion.

I'd rather wait than lose data.

But as you said, it's very individual how you think about this. If backups
are done properly, sometimes it might even be easier *not* to repair data,
but to put back the backups on the newly initialized disks...



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Re: Old user can't log in

2009-02-13 Thread John Almberg


On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Da Rock wrote:


On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 21:52 -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:

On Feb 12, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Da Rock wrote:

With reasonable organization, and appropriate use of sudo or setgid
binaries for things like people who use SVN or CVS, there generally
isn't reason or need for a user to be in so many groups.  For the
exceptional cases, switching to using a full ACL system rather than
the traditional Unix permission model is probably going to be a
better
solution.


Interesting. What would you suggest for full ACL?


Well, it depends on what you're doing in terms of user requirements
and systems (ie, are the FreeBSD boxes fileservers, clients, or
both?), but the stuff which comes with FreeBSD is documented in
acl(3), getfacl, setfacl, etc.  Other choices might involve something
like the Andrew File System / Transarc DFS stuff, or Windows Active
Directory and Samba/CIFS on the FreeBSD boxes

Regards,


So you're talking in terms of the FS only? I thought you said the  
kernel

wasn't capable? I'll have to look into this a more thoroughly, I'm
intrigued to say the least. Not to say I'll ever probably use it,  
but it

does present a limitation.


I only ran up against the problem because I added this user to a  
bunch of other user's groups, so that she could edit those user's  
files. Easily refactored into something more sensible.


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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:16:13 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:11:56 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com
 wrote:
 One of my machines has a pair of 50gb SCSI disks; running two
 full passes takes about 7 minutes.
 I have no idea how long it might take to check a
 multi-terabyte RAID-mumble set-up.

 It's not *that* hard to wait for an fsck. I have 2 x 500 GB here at
 home, you're right, it takes several minutes for fsck to check both
 disks, but in the end, you're happy that either everything turns out
 to be okay or, if problems occured, you see these problems and can
 decide how to handle them.

 Still worth waiting ... in my opinion.

 I'd rather wait than lose data.
 
 But as you said, it's very individual how you think about this. If
 backups are done properly, sometimes it might even be easier *not* to
 repair data, but to put back the backups on the newly initialized
 disks...

IMHO, if you are running a system where 'power outages' cannot be
tolerated, why not install a UPS, they are really quite cheap, and be
done with it? I cannot imagine any high end, mission critical
system not employing one.

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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar

One of my machines has a pair of 50gb SCSI disks; running two
full passes takes about 7 minutes.
I have no idea how long it might take to check a multi-terabyte
RAID-mumble set-up.


depends of how filesystem was created.
multiterabyte arrays are usually used for large files, and filesystem with 
64K blocks and 8K fragments and say one inode/megabyte is checked VERY 
quickly.



Still worth waiting ... in my opinion.


Robert Huff






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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Robert Huff


IMHO, if you are running a system where 'power outages' cannot
be tolerated, why not install a UPS, they are really quite
cheap, and be done with it? I cannot imagine any high end,
mission critical system not employing one.

Power outages are not the only thing which can cause (directly
or indirectly) file system corruption.


Robert Huff

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Re: Help with high LA

2009-02-13 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:04:41 -0200 (BRST) sc...@centroin.com.br wrote:

  I need help for some strange problem with one of my servers, that can cost 
  my job.
  
  It's a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5/amd64 running on a Dell PowerEdge III as a 
  Virtual machine of VMware ESXi. There are only two VM in this box, and one 
  of them (basicly a mail server) is running fine.
  
  The problem is with high loads on the other one, that runs (besides other 
  services) http and pop3.
  
  TOP show LA from 40 to 90 most of the time.
 
  I thought, at first, that was a disk botleneck due to some big mailboxes, 
  or something related to some Apache (2.2.9) fine tuning, but it's 
  something else.
  
  
  If I stop pop3 and apache services (the most active of the box), the LA 
  drops to 1~2.
  Starting only one of them (any one) the LA rise to 20~40. Sugesting that 
  it's not tied to a specific service.
  
  I did a test running just pop3 (Qpopper), pointing the mail spool to a 
  empty directory, to make shure that it's not a disk problem. And the LA 
  also goes to sky (~30). The same happens with only apache running pointing 
  to a simple http page.
  
  The console shows messages like:
  
  ipfw: install_state: Too many dynamic rules

 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_max: 4096   # (here)
 Maximum number of dynamic rules.  When you hit this limit, no
 more dynamic rules can be installed until old ones expire.

To see which traffic is creating 'too many' dynamic rules, check:

# ipfw -ted show | less -S ++G

(-td for just active rules, but the expired ones tell useful stories)

  I know I must review my rules and limit the number of keep-state entries, 
  but a tryed to rise the number of dynamic buckets via sysctl:
  
  sysctl -w net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_buckets=2048
  
  But it seems it's not working, since the number of current buckets doesn't 
  pass 256:
  
  net.inet.ip.fw.curr_dyn_buckets: 256

But did you remember to flush? :)  See ipfw(8) under 'SYSCTL VARIABLES'.

You might also want to monitor and/or play with some of the other 
net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_* sysctls to see what's happening and how many 
dynamic rules you need with comfortable headroom for your workload/s. 
For TCP, keepalive and *lifetime timeouts may be relevant.

I tend to use stateful rules for outbound UDP, and stateless setup and 
established rules for TCP services here, but your needs may differ.

  I tryed to make some OS tuning, from the handbook, like increase the 
  maxcon:
  
  kern.ipc.somaxconn: 2048
  
  but nothing seems to work.
  
  Other entries in the logs:
  Feb 12 09:06:20 host1 inetd[1248]: accept (for ftp): Software caused 
  connection abort
  Feb 12 09:06:20 host1 inetd[1248]: accept (for pop3): Software caused 
  connection abort
  
  I need some clues to undestand what is happening.
  
  Thank you,
  
- Marcelo

Yes, 'Too many dynamic rules'; further connections will surely fail.

cheers, Ian
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Lorenzo Altieri - EIDOS ET PATHOS (new book)

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Re: About FreeBSD hardware compatibility?

2009-02-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:15:37AM +0800, aaron lewis wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm  a freebsd lovers , i wonna install fbsd7.1 to my laptop (IBM
 Thinkpad R400 a18).
   There's no available informations on laptop compatibility lists. So do you
 have any solutions to make a quick check if everything will work?
 I know Solaris has a Install_check tool which will give a list  whether a
 hardware has solaris drivers ,third-part driver or not supported.
 Does Fbsd has something likely?
 Thk in advance!

Here are some web pages to look at.

   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/index.html

   http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/

   http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile

   http://tuxmobil.org/mobile_bsd.html

In addition, the RELEASE notes section for each release of FreeBSD
contains pages or hardware compatibility notes.   Just look for the
RELEASE and then the hardware compatibility links.

jerry  

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Re: 7.4 - X -configure gives No devices to configure

2009-02-13 Thread Robert Noland
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 09:26 +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 03:31:43PM -0500, Robert Noland wrote:
  On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 10:42 +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   Upgrade from 7.3 to 7.4 made X unsuable on FBSD 7.1-stable i386.
   I followed the UPDATE procedures, had no errors on build,
   but on X -configure I get 
   
   No devices to configure.  Configuration failed.
   
   This is a Compaq Armada 1700 laptop, old I know, but 7.3 worked
   fine. The graphics is by Chips and Technologies, nothing fancy,
   and the driver is xf86-video-chips-1.2.1. The full log is below.
   
   What's going on?
   
   many thanks
   anton
   
   ***
   
   X.Org X Server 1.5.3
   Release Date: 5 November 2008
   X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
   Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 
   Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk 7.1-STABLE 
   FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 31 14:31:50 GMT 2009 
   me...@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARMADA1700 i386
   Build Date: 09 February 2009  10:16:23AM

 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
 to make sure that you have the latest version.
   Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
   (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Feb 11 10:15:59 2009
   (II) Loader magic: 0x81bede0
   (II) Module ABI versions:
 X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
 X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
 X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
 X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6
   (II) Loader running on freebsd
   (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
   (--) using VT number 9
   
   (--) PCI:*(0...@0:8:0) Chips and Technologies F6 HiQVPro rev 168, Mem 
   @ 0x4000/0, BIOS @ 0x/65536
   List of video drivers:
 chips
   (II) LoadModule: chips
   
   (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//chips_drv.so
   (II) Module chips: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.2.1
 Module class: X.Org Video Driver
 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1
   (II) System resource ranges:
 [0] -1  0   0x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MX[B]E(B)
 [1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
 [2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
 [3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
 [4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
 [5] -1  0   0x - 0x00ff (0x100) IX[B]
   (II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:08:0
   No devices to configure.  Configuration failed.
  
  I'll need to see a pciconf -lv, but it looks like the chips driver isn't
  recognizing your chip.  You could try the vesa driver.  The chips driver
  has not been maintained in quite a while I would say.

Hrm, ok... The chips drivers attach routine is a bit odd.  It looks like
it should work with this chip, but I would have to dig into the driver
more than I care to to figure out why it isn't attaching.  I would just
use vesa... You aren't likely to get much with this driver anyway
really...

robert.

 #pciconf -lv
 hos...@pci0:0:0:0:class=0x06 card=0x04600e11 chip=0x71928086 rev=0x02 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '82443BX/ZX 440BX/ZX CPU to PCI Bridge (AGP Not Implemented)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 is...@pci0:0:7:0: class=0x060100 card=0x chip=0x71108086 rev=0x02 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M ISA Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-ISA
 atap...@pci0:0:7:1:   class=0x010180 card=0x chip=0x71118086 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M IDE Controller'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 uh...@pci0:0:7:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x chip=0x71128086 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M USB Interface'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 no...@pci0:0:7:3: class=0x068000 card=0x chip=0x71138086 rev=0x02 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4/4E/4M Power Management Controller'
 class  = bridge
 vgap...@pci0:0:8:0:   class=0x03 card=0xb0490e11 chip=0x00e5102c rev=0xa8 
 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Asiliant (Chips And Technologies)'
 device = 'F6 HiQVPro GUI Accelerator'
 class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 c...@pci0:0:17:0: class=0x060700 card=0xb0470e11 chip=0xac17104c rev=0x02 
 hdr=0x02
 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)'
 device = 'PCI1220 PC Card CardBus Controller'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-CardBus
 c...@pci0:0:17:1: 

Re: Old user can't log in

2009-02-13 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Feb 12, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Da Rock wrote:

So you're talking in terms of the FS only?


Nope.  A filesystem might have ACL capability available in it's  
specification, but without kernel and userland support, that  
capability isn't accessible or meaningful.



I thought you said the kernel wasn't capable?


Yes, I said that the kernel has a compile-time limit as to how many  
groups are supported per user.



I'll have to look into this a more thoroughly, I'm
intrigued to say the least. Not to say I'll ever probably use it,  
but it

does present a limitation.


Sure.

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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:22:55 -0500
Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:

 IMHO, if you are running a system where 'power outages' cannot
 be tolerated, why not install a UPS, they are really quite
 cheap, and be done with it? I cannot imagine any high end,
 mission critical system not employing one.  

 Power outages are not the only thing which can cause (directly
 or indirectly) file system corruption.

I agree, a sledge hammer applied to the HD could also cause irreparable
harm; however, the subject of this thread referred to 'power outages'.
The use of UPS, RAID, backups, etc. all tend to insure the safety of
data. In this case, the OP only referenced 'power outages'.

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something to die for.  The problem is, they usually want the rest of us
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Xorg - Resolution issues

2009-02-13 Thread Francis Dubé

Hi everyone,

I got this TV : 
http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=tvtype=tvsubtype=lcdmodel_cd=LN40A330J1DXZCfullspec=F


I'm trying to use it as my screen under FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE with a 
resolution of 1366x768 which is suposed to be suported by the TV, 
acording with the TV's specs. I did the same with another very similar 
TV and it was working #1 without having to create any Xorg.conf, a plain 
startx and the display was perfect (1366x768).


With my new TV, X only start in 1280x720. So I created a config file 
with Xorg -configure, then I tried to force Xorg to use 1366x768 but it 
keeps loading in 1280x720. In my Xorg.0.log it looks like there's no 
support for the resolution I want :


[...]
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[...]
(II) RADEON(0): Panel infos found from DDC detailed: 1280x720
[...]
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 74.2 MHz   Image Size:  160 x 90 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1390  h_sync_end 1430 
h_blank_end 1650 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 720  v_sync: 725  v_sync_end 730 v_blanking: 
750 v_border: 0

(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 74.2 MHz   Image Size:  160 x 90 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1920  h_sync: 2008  h_sync_end 2052 
h_blank_end 2200 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 540  v_sync: 542  v_sync_end 547 v_blanking: 
562 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 23  V max: 61 Hz, H min: 26  H max: 68 
kHz, PixClock max 150 MHz

(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: SAMSUNG
[...]
(II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 using initial mode 1280x720
[...]

This is how i configured my resolution in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf :
[...]
Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Card0
   MonitorMonitor0
   DefaultDepth 24
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 24
   Modes   1366x768
   EndSubSection
EndSection
[...]

My video card is a Radeon HD 3450 and my Xorg version is xorg-7.3_2

Also, the only other resolution supported by the TV according to the 
log file would be 1920x540...but it's not supported by the TV !


Am I missing something ?

Thanks for reading.

Francis
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Problems with xf86-video-ati driver (6.10.0)

2009-02-13 Thread Paul Schmehl

Florent, I'm ccing you on this so you know about it.

On an Intel dual core box running 7.1 RELEASE and Xorg 7.4, the radeon driver 
drives CPU to 100% and locks up the box.  Keyboard and mouse input are ignored, 
and it's not possible to switch to another tty to escape from the problem. 
Kill won't kill the process either.  You *can* login through ssh and reboot the 
box to fix the problem (after editing the xorg.conf file first, of course.)


Loading the radeon and drm driver through loader.conf did not change any 
behavior.


There are no errors in the Xorg.0.log file, and the process of X startup 
appears to be perfectly normal.  Switching to the vesa driver fixes the problem 
entirely.  The radeon driver can be used, less than optimally, by disabling DRI.


Option DRI off

I looked at the latest driver at x.org (6.10.99.0), but I didn't see anything 
in the notes that indicated that this problem might have been fixed.


$ uname -a
FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan  1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 
r...@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


$ dmesg | grep CPU
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz (3391.61-MHz 686-class CPU)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
p4tcc0: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu0
cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
p4tcc1: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu1
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched

$ kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
1   16 0xc040 97f830   kernel
21 0xc0d8 6fa8 snd_ich.ko
32 0xc0d87000 4a64csound.ko
41 0xc0dd2000 22c98radeon.ko
52 0xc0df5000 10e98drm.ko
61 0xc0e06000 6a2c4acpi.ko
71 0xc765 22000linux.ko
81 0xc7736000 3000 daemon_saver.ko

$ pciconf -l
hos...@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27708086 rev=0x02 
hdr=0x00
pc...@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x8086 chip=0x27718086 rev=0x02 
hdr=0x01
pc...@pci0:0:28:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x27d08086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x01
pc...@pci0:0:28:1:  class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x27d28086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x01
uh...@pci0:0:29:0:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c88086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
uh...@pci0:0:29:1:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c98086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
uh...@pci0:0:29:2:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27ca8086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
uh...@pci0:0:29:3:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27cb8086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
eh...@pci0:0:29:7:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27cc8086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
pc...@pci0:0:30:0:  class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xe1 
hdr=0x01
p...@pci0:0:30:2:   class=0x040100 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27de8086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
is...@pci0:0:31:0:  class=0x060100 card=0x chip=0x27b88086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
atap...@pci0:0:31:1:class=0x01018a card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27df8086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
atap...@pci0:0:31:2:class=0x01018f card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c08086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
no...@pci0:0:31:3:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vgap...@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x0b021002 chip=0x5b621002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vgap...@pci0:1:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x0b031002 chip=0x5b721002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
b...@pci0:2:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x167714e4 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00


less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section ServerLayout
   Identifier X.org Configured
   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
   InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
   InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
   ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/
EndSection

Section Module
   Load  GLcore
   Load  xtrap
EndSection

Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Mouse0
   Driver  mouse
   Option  Protocol auto
   Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
   Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
   Identifier   Monitor0
   VendorName   DELL
   ModelName1905FP
EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier  Card0
   Driver  radeon
   VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
   BoardName   RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]
   BusID   PCI:1:0:0
   Option  DRI off
EndSection

Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Card0
   MonitorMonitor0
   DefaultDepth24
   SubSection 

Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:22:55 -0500, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:
   Power outages are not the only thing which can cause (directly
 or indirectly) file system corruption.

Oh yes, that's so true - I experienced it in July 2008, and I still
think it was a software problem...


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Re: Assigning static ip address

2009-02-13 Thread Nikolaj Thygesen

Steve Bertrand wrote:

From what I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong):

- you are working on a FreeBSD host system
- you have a DHCP server on the network, but it is not on this host
- you want to use all of the DHCP assigned parameters on the host, but
you want to have a static IP on the host you are working on that is
different than the one assigned to you

  
   Yep, all your assumptions are correct! I did in fact at some point 
try creating a lease for the em0 interface in dhclient.conf, but I 
understand those leases are only used if the dhcp server is unavailable, 
and it never had any effect.


   ... But the dhcp server is in my router, so I followed your 
suggestion and created a static lease (which before I didn't know I 
could do), so now everything works - thanks a lot!!


   br Nikolaj

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Re: Xorg - Resolution issues

2009-02-13 Thread Polytropon
Maybe you can try

Option PreferredMode 1366x768

in section Monitor?

If it doesn't work, there's always an option to use xrandr via
~/.xinitrc:

xrandr --size 1366x768 
xrandr --fb 1366x768 

I have a similar issue with the ati driver, using an ATI Radeon 9200
(RV250) which I need to force to 1400x1050 (worked with old XFree86
and the setting in the config file, as you mentioned it). The
autodetection of the screen (21 CRT) leads to stupid values that
are completely unusable.


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FreeBSD 7.1 - rshd problems

2009-02-13 Thread Overdorf, Sam
I'm having problems getting rsh/rshd to work on my 7.1 installation.
I have it configured the same as my 7.0 computer (which works fine) but when I 
try to run a command I get the following response:

rsh u0610 ls
rshd: Login incorrect.

Thanks,
Sam

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Re: Xorg - Resolution issues

2009-02-13 Thread Francis Dubé

Polytropon a écrit :

Maybe you can try

Option PreferredMode 1366x768

in section Monitor?

If it doesn't work, there's always an option to use xrandr via
~/.xinitrc:

xrandr --size 1366x768 
xrandr --fb 1366x768 

I have a similar issue with the ati driver, using an ATI Radeon 9200
(RV250) which I need to force to 1400x1050 (worked with old XFree86
and the setting in the config file, as you mentioned it). The
autodetection of the screen (21 CRT) leads to stupid values that
are completely unusable.

  

xrandr in my ~/.xinitrc solved my problem !

Thanks a lot !

Francis
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Re: Logcheck dependency hell

2009-02-13 Thread Chris Cowart
n j wrote:
 could anyone help me what command should I use to find out which
 logcheck-required port _exactly_ is trying to install half of the X
 libraries?

The Makefile says:

| BUILD_DEPENDS=  docbook-to-man:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/docbook-to-man
| RUN_DEPENDS=lockfile:${PORTSDIR}/mail/procmail \
| bash:${PORTSDIR}/shells/bash

So I'll bet some money that it's docbook. 

Does it improve if you add these to /etc/make.conf:

| NO_GUI=YES
| WITHOUT_GUI=YES
| WITHOUT_X11=YES
| WITHOUT_XPM=YES

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confontation

2009-02-13 Thread prad
i need greek letters for math work.

latex has the fonts of course, but i don't have the \mu \ro etc on
regular programs such as inkscape.
i've installed texcm-ttf, but only go a couple of greek letters.
mathfonts don't install and i'm really not sure that mathmatica fonts
are what i require anyway.

there doesn't seem to be a greek letters in ports.

any suggestions?

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Re: accents in file names

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel Leal

Ok, Thanks a lot... I will read carefully these articles...

bye.

daniel



Chuck Swiger wrote:

On Feb 12, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Leal wrote:
is there a way to have a freebsd system with file names with accented 
words. Like filé.txt instead of file.txt. Now if I copy a file 
with an accented letter to my freebsd box, the accented letter simply 
disappear.


UFS supports 8-bit characters except for / and \0, but you also 
need to run a terminal with UTF8 support and use a correct font to 
view such things.  Perhaps this might give you some insight:


  http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html

Note that other file systems have more comprehensive Unicode support:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems#Limits

Perhaps I'm biased, but I've long been of the opinion that the Mac 
platform with HFS+ has very good internationalization support.


Regards,


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Re: confontation

2009-02-13 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:07:00 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:
 i need greek letters for math work.
 
 [...]
 
 any suggestions?

I'm not sure if this helps you, but I've seen a font on an
ancient Windows 3.11 installation that included all greek
letters (uppercase and lowercase), but without special
punctuation (which is not needed for math purposes, I think).
Was the font named Symbol? I can't remember, it's long time
ago.

But maybe you can check and find a TTF file that can be
imported to X and / or the application you use?

I think using sprites of the letters instead of a font is
not a good idea...


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Re: confontation

2009-02-13 Thread Matthew Seaman

Polytropon wrote:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:07:00 -0800, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:

i need greek letters for math work.

[...]

any suggestions?


I'm not sure if this helps you, but I've seen a font on an
ancient Windows 3.11 installation that included all greek
letters (uppercase and lowercase), but without special
punctuation (which is not needed for math purposes, I think).
Was the font named Symbol? I can't remember, it's long time
ago.

But maybe you can check and find a TTF file that can be
imported to X and / or the application you use?

I think using sprites of the letters instead of a font is
not a good idea...




x11-fonts/gentium for one has a good set of Greek characters within the
font.  Many other freely available TTF fonts do likewise.

I notice the OP is using inkscape -- I can't see an easy way of inputting
Greek characters from the keyboard with that app, and there isn't a handy
character chooser like there is in openoffice.

However Gentium does come with some handy proof sheets of all of the Greek
and Roman glyphs provided by the font in:

  /usr/local/share/doc/gentium/Gentium-Greek-Specimen.pdf

You can cut'n'paste from there.

Cheers,

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Re: confontation

2009-02-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 01:07:00PM -0800, prad wrote:
 i need greek letters for math work.
 
 latex has the fonts of course, but i don't have the \mu \ro etc on
 regular programs such as inkscape.
 i've installed texcm-ttf, but only go a couple of greek letters.
 mathfonts don't install and i'm really not sure that mathmatica fonts
 are what i require anyway.
 
 there doesn't seem to be a greek letters in ports.
 
 any suggestions?
 


guys,

i hope this isn't TOO  far off-topic, but is there an any that let you 
create mathematical symbols on a GUI frame?  my handwriting left-handed 
is
(and has been) lousy.  in college i created my own method of typinf 
symbols
on my typewriter.  eg. to depict the integral from 0 to 2-pi was:

b=0/t=2pi where the slash represente the long S-shape integral symbol.

now that graphs are pretty easy to drop-and-drag, are there any math 
symbols
tools that allow manipulation of greek (and roman) characters to 
actually do
math with?  or is this still aways off...?  

gary




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Re: confontation

2009-02-13 Thread prad
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:06:56 +0100
Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote:

  i need greek letters for math work.  
 
 Why?
 
i want to be able to put \theta or \mu into a drawing that i create
with inkscape. i realize these things are available in xfig, but it
would be handy if i could have a greek letter font that could be used
by other programs.

  latex has the fonts of course, but i don't have the \mu \ro etc on
  regular programs such as inkscape.  
 
 www.lyx.org

the issue isn't with latex where these things are easy to get at. i
require greek letters for other programs like inkscape.

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Re: Problems with xf86-video-ati driver (6.10.0)

2009-02-13 Thread Robert Noland
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:34 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 Florent, I'm ccing you on this so you know about it.
 
 On an Intel dual core box running 7.1 RELEASE and Xorg 7.4, the radeon driver 
 drives CPU to 100% and locks up the box.  Keyboard and mouse input are 
 ignored, 
 and it's not possible to switch to another tty to escape from the problem. 
 Kill won't kill the process either.  You *can* login through ssh and reboot 
 the 
 box to fix the problem (after editing the xorg.conf file first, of course.)
 
 Loading the radeon and drm driver through loader.conf did not change any 
 behavior.
 
 There are no errors in the Xorg.0.log file, and the process of X startup 
 appears to be perfectly normal.  Switching to the vesa driver fixes the 
 problem 
 entirely.  The radeon driver can be used, less than optimally, by disabling 
 DRI.
 
 Option DRI off
 
 I looked at the latest driver at x.org (6.10.99.0), but I didn't see anything 
 in the notes that indicated that this problem might have been fixed.

Actually, I'd suggest updating to STABLE.  You are running the old drm
code. 

robert.

 $ uname -a
 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan  1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 
 r...@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 $ dmesg | grep CPU
 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz (3391.61-MHz 686-class CPU)
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
 p4tcc0: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu0
 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
 p4tcc1: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu1
 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched
 
 $ kldstat
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
  1   16 0xc040 97f830   kernel
  21 0xc0d8 6fa8 snd_ich.ko
  32 0xc0d87000 4a64csound.ko
  41 0xc0dd2000 22c98radeon.ko
  52 0xc0df5000 10e98drm.ko
  61 0xc0e06000 6a2c4acpi.ko
  71 0xc765 22000linux.ko
  81 0xc7736000 3000 daemon_saver.ko
 
 $ pciconf -l
 hos...@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27708086 
 rev=0x02 
 hdr=0x00
 pc...@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x8086 chip=0x27718086 
 rev=0x02 
 hdr=0x01
 pc...@pci0:0:28:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x27d08086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x01
 pc...@pci0:0:28:1:  class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x27d28086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x01
 uh...@pci0:0:29:0:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c88086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 uh...@pci0:0:29:1:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c98086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 uh...@pci0:0:29:2:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27ca8086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 uh...@pci0:0:29:3:  class=0x0c0300 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27cb8086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 eh...@pci0:0:29:7:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27cc8086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 pc...@pci0:0:30:0:  class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x244e8086 
 rev=0xe1 
 hdr=0x01
 p...@pci0:0:30:2:   class=0x040100 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27de8086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 is...@pci0:0:31:0:  class=0x060100 card=0x chip=0x27b88086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 atap...@pci0:0:31:1:class=0x01018a card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27df8086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 atap...@pci0:0:31:2:class=0x01018f card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27c08086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 no...@pci0:0:31:3:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x27da8086 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 vgap...@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x0b021002 chip=0x5b621002 
 rev=0x00 
 hdr=0x00
 vgap...@pci0:1:0:1: class=0x038000 card=0x0b031002 chip=0x5b721002 
 rev=0x00 
 hdr=0x00
 b...@pci0:2:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x01ad1028 chip=0x167714e4 
 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
 
 less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier X.org Configured
 Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection
 
 Section Files
 ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/
 EndSection
 
 Section Module
 Load  GLcore
 Load  xtrap
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Keyboard0
 Driver  kbd
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 Option  Protocol auto
 Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
 Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection
 
 Section Monitor
 Identifier   Monitor0
 VendorName   DELL
 ModelName1905FP
 EndSection
 
 Section Device

Re: confontation

2009-02-13 Thread prad
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:49:36 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 Was the font named Symbol? I can't remember, it's long time
 ago.
 
ya i think that might have been it.
there is a symbol in xfig.

 But maybe you can check and find a TTF file that can be
 imported to X and / or the application you use?

i just did that. the mathfont port isn't working, but i went to the
mathmatica site:
http://support.wolfram.com/technotes/latestfonts.en.html
and got the collection.

then i put the TTF folder from there as MATH into
/usr/local/lib/X11/font
and put this into my xorg.conf:
FontPath/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/MATH/

so now i have mathfonts!

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Re: Old user can't log in

2009-02-13 Thread Timur I. Bakeyev
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 21:48 -0500, John Almberg wrote:

 I've been following this thread with interest: are you saying FreeBSD
 logins cannot handle more than 16 groups? If so, why? Is this mitigated
 by using other authentication methods (ie kerberos, ldap, etc)?

In fact the real limit is 14 groups, which is a long standing bug in
the libc+kernel. So beware :)

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Re: recovering from a power outage

2009-02-13 Thread David Newman
On 2/13/09 7:22 AM, Robert Huff wrote:
 
IMHO, if you are running a system where 'power outages' cannot
be tolerated, why not install a UPS, they are really quite
cheap, and be done with it? I cannot imagine any high end,
mission critical system not employing one.
 
   Power outages are not the only thing which can cause (directly
 or indirectly) file system corruption.

Hi, I'm the OP :-)

To that point, the system in question is attached to a 5000VA UPS. I did
something stupid with the UPS control software that caused an, er,
unscheduled shutdown. No UPS can help Mr. Fat Finger!

Thanks for all your replies.

dn

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Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS

2009-02-13 Thread Bobby Walker
I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003.   
I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing 
additional software.  Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a 
catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well.  
So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest 
OS on the box.  Any suggestions for the best way of doing this?


Thanks in advance,
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Re: Problems with xf86-video-ati driver (6.10.0)

2009-02-13 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On February 13, 2009 7:38:04 PM -0600 Robert Noland 
rnol...@freebsd.org wrote:


There are no errors in the Xorg.0.log file, and the process of X
startup  appears to be perfectly normal.  Switching to the vesa driver
fixes the problem  entirely.  The radeon driver can be used, less than
optimally, by disabling DRI.

Option DRI off

I looked at the latest driver at x.org (6.10.99.0), but I didn't see
anything  in the notes that indicated that this problem might have been
fixed.


Actually, I'd suggest updating to STABLE.  You are running the old drm
code.



Good catch, Robert.  The radeon driver now works fine with DRI enabled. 
Xorg only uses about 4% of CPU.


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Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS

2009-02-13 Thread Uwe Laverenz

Bobby Walker schrieb:

So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest 
OS on the box.  Any suggestions for the best way of doing this?


If it has to run on top of W2K3 server I would suggest VMware server 2.0 
which can be used for free (as in free beer). Don't expect it to deliver 
high performance, but it should be fine for a small duty server.


Another option would be VirtualBox (free for private use) but there have 
been serious problems with freebsd guests in the past.


bye,
Uwe
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Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS

2009-02-13 Thread Tim Judd
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 22:32 -0600, Bobby Walker wrote:
 I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003.   
 I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing 
 additional software.  Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a 
 catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well.  
 So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest 
 OS on the box.  Any suggestions for the best way of doing this?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Bobby

There was a recommendation of another win32-based email server -- and I
have it bookmarked at work.  From the single person that mentioned it,
he was praising it pretty well.

When I get to work, I'll send it on your way.  I just don't have a clue
what it was right now.


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Upgrading gcc on FreeBSD 4.11

2009-02-13 Thread Shaun
Hi all,

One of my machines is running FreeBSD 4.11. It's a bit confused about
its current incarnation of gcc:

[sh...@agaliarept lang]$ pkg_info | grep gcc
gcc-3.4.6_3,1   GNU Compiler Collection 3.4
[sh...@agaliarept lang]$ gcc -v
Using builtin specs.
gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]

Another of my machines, which runs FreeBSD 6.4, has gcc 3.4.6:

[sh...@falwell shaun]$ pkg_info | grep gcc
[sh...@falwell shaun]$ gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305

Is it safe to install one of the newer gcc ports on FreeBSD 4.11? I've
had this machine for three years; I don't recall ever upgrading the
compiler, although pkg_info seems to think that I did, or at least
attempted to. I'm wondering if there are any risks involved in going
from gcc 2.95 to, say, 3.4.6. Typically I'm happy to pull the latest
stable of just about anything, but the compiler is a different story.

Thanks,

Shaun
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How to interrupt hung boot process?

2009-02-13 Thread Dieter
Working on updating a amd64 box from 7.0 to 7.1.
A shell script called from rc.local hung.
(Still don't know why, works fine in 7.0, works
fine in 7.1 executed manually once system is up.)
Tried ^C, ^\, ^P and nearly every other key on the
keyboard.  They echo, but nothing will interrupt
the hung process.  I had to press the reset button.

Back in the day, typing ^C on the console would
interrupt the boot process and give you a shell
prompt.  How do I interrupt the boot process
with FreeBSD?

Is there a way to have getty start before running
rc.local?
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Re: Upgrading gcc on FreeBSD 4.11

2009-02-13 Thread Tim Judd
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 00:00 -0600, Shaun wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 One of my machines is running FreeBSD 4.11. It's a bit confused about
 its current incarnation of gcc:
 
 [sh...@agaliarept lang]$ pkg_info | grep gcc
 gcc-3.4.6_3,1   GNU Compiler Collection 3.4
 [sh...@agaliarept lang]$ gcc -v
 Using builtin specs.
 gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]
 
 Another of my machines, which runs FreeBSD 6.4, has gcc 3.4.6:
 
 [sh...@falwell shaun]$ pkg_info | grep gcc
 [sh...@falwell shaun]$ gcc -v
 Using built-in specs.
 Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler
 Thread model: posix
 gcc version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305
 
 Is it safe to install one of the newer gcc ports on FreeBSD 4.11? I've
 had this machine for three years; I don't recall ever upgrading the
 compiler, although pkg_info seems to think that I did, or at least
 attempted to. I'm wondering if there are any risks involved in going
 from gcc 2.95 to, say, 3.4.6. Typically I'm happy to pull the latest
 stable of just about anything, but the compiler is a different story.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Shaun

FreeBSD 4.x has not been supported for ports for a long time.

Ports are guaranteed to work for the current releases of freebsd and
-CURRENT only.

Using, or trying, to install anything on 4.x anymore is a gamble.  You
should upgrade.

There was a tag you used to be able to use for 4.x port installs, but I
bet that tag hasn't been updated in forever...

tag=RELEASE_4_11_0
see: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
dated Jan/8/2005


With the above tag, and an updated ports tree, i can recommend
installing packages (if the tarballs are still on the internet).
Without that tag, i don't recommend it.

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Re: How to interrupt hung boot process?

2009-02-13 Thread Tim Judd
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 22:32 +, Dieter wrote:
 Working on updating a amd64 box from 7.0 to 7.1.
 A shell script called from rc.local hung.
 (Still don't know why, works fine in 7.0, works
 fine in 7.1 executed manually once system is up.)
 Tried ^C, ^\, ^P and nearly every other key on the
 keyboard.  They echo, but nothing will interrupt
 the hung process.  I had to press the reset button.
 
 Back in the day, typing ^C on the console would
 interrupt the boot process and give you a shell
 prompt.  How do I interrupt the boot process
 with FreeBSD?
 
 Is there a way to have getty start before running
 rc.local?

If a shell script traps the signals, there is nothing you can do except
by calling a SIGKILL to the PID, which requires the system to be in
Multi-User Mode.



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Re: Upgrading gcc on FreeBSD 4.11

2009-02-13 Thread Shaun
Thanks Tim! 

I'm aware that 4.x has been EOL'd for a long time. 

This particular machine is tracking RELENG_4_11. Of course I'd love to
upgrade, but I have no physical access. I've researched the potential
paths from 4.11 to 5.x to 6.x, and while there are some success stories,
there are horror stories as well. I'm not confident enough to attempt it
remotely. I can get IPKVM, but this is a personal machine without any
sort of HA requirements. It's not worth the hassle or expense to build
out a new box and restore the backups until the current hardware fails.

FWIW: The reason I was wanting to upgrade gcc was to get the
/usr/ports/net-mgmt/darkstat package installed. Trying to install it on
4.11 gave me an error that stdint.h didn't exist. Since my original post,
I have found a viable workaround, by symlinking inttypes.h to stdint.h.

I appreciate your quick answer, and for anyone else following this
thread, I no longer have a need to upgrade gcc. Sage, if you will.

Thanks again, Tim!

Shaun

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:58:38 -0700
Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 00:00 -0600, Shaun wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  One of my machines is running FreeBSD 4.11. It's a bit confused about
  its current incarnation of gcc:
  
  [sh...@agaliarept lang]$ pkg_info | grep gcc
  gcc-3.4.6_3,1   GNU Compiler Collection 3.4
  [sh...@agaliarept lang]$ gcc -v
  Using builtin specs.
  gcc version 2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]
  
  Another of my machines, which runs FreeBSD 6.4, has gcc 3.4.6:
  
  [sh...@falwell shaun]$ pkg_info | grep gcc
  [sh...@falwell shaun]$ gcc -v
  Using built-in specs.
  Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler
  Thread model: posix
  gcc version 3.4.6 [FreeBSD] 20060305
  
  Is it safe to install one of the newer gcc ports on FreeBSD 4.11? I've
  had this machine for three years; I don't recall ever upgrading the
  compiler, although pkg_info seems to think that I did, or at least
  attempted to. I'm wondering if there are any risks involved in going
  from gcc 2.95 to, say, 3.4.6. Typically I'm happy to pull the latest
  stable of just about anything, but the compiler is a different story.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Shaun
 
 FreeBSD 4.x has not been supported for ports for a long time.
 
 Ports are guaranteed to work for the current releases of freebsd and
 -CURRENT only.
 
 Using, or trying, to install anything on 4.x anymore is a gamble.  You
 should upgrade.
 
 There was a tag you used to be able to use for 4.x port installs, but I
 bet that tag hasn't been updated in forever...
 
 tag=RELEASE_4_11_0
 see: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
 dated Jan/8/2005
 
 
 With the above tag, and an updated ports tree, i can recommend
 installing packages (if the tarballs are still on the internet).
 Without that tag, i don't recommend it.


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