Written by Wojciech Puchar on 06/03/09 15:15
I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing at your hypocritical
observation here. The whole reason this tangled mess of threads even
exists is because you were aggressive in your own response to the
potential donor.
That's all I have to say. The
Written by Wojciech Puchar on 06/02/09 18:01
Some people may want both, but well you can't have everything. It's not
possible to everyone will agree with everyone on mailing list, and with
every potential new user.
I know that disagreeing is inevitable. My position is that a pleasant
tone
donor==real spammer.
I don't see why I should accept that order. You have no supporters of
your rude and outlandish behavior, and you get worse with each
all your opinions
criticism. You do not represent FreeBSD, the FreeBSD foundation, or the
freebsd-questions mailing list. You can have
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:08:30AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar typed:
I still cannot understand why you - an active, experienced and
knowledgeable FBSD user - would want to scare off potential donors for the
once again please reread that post. it wasn't even potential donor, but
potential
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml
So, instead of being pissed on, they might have been persuaded to pay a little
more, get their link and help the project as a whole.
That's what i told - add two zeroes to be advertised.
Missed opportunity.
sure not.
On Tuesday, June 02, 2009, at 07:23AM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml
So, instead of being pissed on, they might have been persuaded to pay a
little
more, get their link and help the project as a whole.
That's
I can't resist. The lack of math is killing me:
ONE zero. ONE (1) ONE zero.
12 months/year * 50/month = $600/year
12 months/year * 100/month = $1200/year
$600/year / $5000/year = 0.12
$1200/year / $5000/year = 0.24 (or about a quarter of what is needed
for a link).
$417/month = $5004/year.
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:48:40PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
$417/month = $5004/year.
You believe he will pay for 4 years?
This thread is starting to remind me of a quote:
You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to
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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Math/Quote (Was: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD))
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:48:40PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote
This thread is starting to remind me of a quote:
You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in
common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They
alter the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable if
you happen to be one of the facts that
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:44:01 -0500
Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote:
My Mom always told me if you ignore things long enough they'll go away,
so I've been trying to do that with several of these infinite mutating
threads. That quote though is some funny $hit! I'm gonna print it out
on a
2009/6/2 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
I can't resist. The lack of math is killing me:
ONE zero. ONE (1) ONE zero.
12 months/year * 50/month = $600/year
12 months/year * 100/month = $1200/year
$600/year / $5000/year = 0.12
$1200/year / $5000/year = 0.24 (or about a
You believe he will pay for 4 years?
No... he is suggesting quadrupling the amount.
so we end in what i suggested in the beginning - 5-10 thousands.
just added option to pay by instalments
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On Tuesday, June 02, 2009, at 12:44PM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
You believe he will pay for 4 years?
No... he is suggesting quadrupling the amount.
so we end in what i suggested in the beginning - 5-10 thousands.
just added option to pay by instalments
The
just added option to pay by instalments
The original poster several days ago suggested installments. His original post
suggested $50-$100/month. That is $600-$1200/year. You repeatedly said that he
would need to add two zeros. Adding two zeros would be $60,000 -
$120,000/year.
Yes - i
...
Even at first post i wrote that i'm not FreeBSD owners and they will
decide.
We're all human. The potential sponsors might have missed the line
where you said that you were not an owner.
this way - nobody should write anyone. there is always a line that missed
- completely changes a
2009/6/2 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
...
Do you really mean i have enough power to just dumb any sponsors
(potential, not potential) by writing a post on public mailing
list?
Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
don't want to be a part of
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 11:20:23PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
just added option to pay by instalments
The original poster several days ago suggested installments. His
original post suggested $50-$100/month. That is $600-$1200/year.
You repeatedly said that he would need to add two
Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
don't want to be a part of that community after all. That's why it
Just reread this and, ... don't you think it's quite like a good filter?
I don't talk about sponsors, but a new potential users.
If someone needs good
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:03:06AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
...
Even at first post i wrote that i'm not FreeBSD owners and they will
decide.
We're all human. The potential sponsors might have missed the line
where you said that you were not an owner.
this way - nobody should
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:34:55AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they
don't want to be a part of that community after all. That's why it
Just reread this and, ... don't you think it's quite like a good filter?
I don't talk
this way - nobody should write anyone. there is always a line that missed
- completely changes a sense of sentence.
I'm sure you know that this is an absurd proposition.
It's just explanation. You can't write anything that will be absolutely
resistible to misreading.
If second - then
matter at all. Rather if you can get answer to questions about FreeBSD.
You can, even easier if some moderation would be present here.
Considering that the mailing list is one of the few places where
support exists, I don't know that I can agree with you.
Also, I don't think that an artificial
anyway, i reread the original sponsoring offer and i think i understand
well. so - if FreeBSD team like to accept donations that way, my 100$ is
still waiting :)
I am afraid you still do not understand it. This sponsorship offer was NOT
directed to you.
did you really read my sentence.
I TOO
2009/5/28 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
anyway, i reread the original sponsoring offer and i think i understand
well. so - if FreeBSD team like to accept donations that way, my 100$ is
still waiting :)
I am afraid you still do not understand it. This sponsorship offer was
Actually he said:
QUOTE
href=http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/12268152.html
What we ask for in return for our sponsorships is a short mentioning
on the site somewhere with a link to our website.
so if you believe it means that he will be happy with being on
2009/5/28 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
Actually he said:
QUOTE
href=http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/12268152.html
What we ask for in return for our sponsorships is a short mentioning
on the site somewhere with a link to our website.
it's UNMODERATED mailing list, so i can share my opinion.
And you are really the last person i care about when presenting my opinion.
So are you going to answer my question?
Why did you answer his question?
already did.
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Would all the children fighting in this thread please go suck your binkies and
leave the list alone. This has gone on for far too long, has worn out any
entertainment value it ever had and is clearly sucking up valuable bandwidth.
And yes, I'm well aware you'll feel compelled to respond, so
This is enough.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
It is NOT an opinion that you were rude in your reply, and it is NOT
an opinion that it's not your place to advise on how much constitutes
an 'acceptable' or 'sufficient' donation.
You
You are then told that your reply was unnecessary and unwarranted,
then you continue to post snide remarks and taunt those telling you
that you are wrong.
Thanks to your attitude, actions, and demeanor, I will be
unsubscribing from this list.
PLEASE NO!
I like your posts :)
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 11:44:03 am Glen Barber wrote:
Thanks to your attitude, actions, and demeanor, I will be
unsubscribing from this list.
Don't. He's hardly the only PITA in support mailing lists. Just add him to
your killfile and move on.
--
Kirk Strauser
Thanks to your attitude, actions, and demeanor, I will be
unsubscribing from this list.
Glen - please don't. I have never met so many supportive people as on this
list. I do hope Wojtek will just stop doing this but even if he doesn't,
we should not let such people determine the quality of this
Thanks to your attitude, actions, and demeanor, I will be
unsubscribing from this list.
Glen - please don't.
Me too! Don't unsubscribe :)
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To
Glen Barber wrote:
just another funny post - it's not an opinion, it's a fact BECAUSE YOU
DECIDED SO.
please post more :)
You continuously do this. You post responses to posts that (as
previously stated) scare off users and, in this case, a potential
sponsor.
You are then told
Thanks to your attitude, actions, and demeanor, I will be
unsubscribing from this list.
Glen: Please don't!
I agree.
And Wojciech, is there any way we can convince you to show a more
positive attitude to the people on this list?
it is positive. actually very positive :)
While being
While being attacked for almost EVERY my opinion just because is not
mainstream, or because i have opinion at all, i just respond normally.
Wojtek - I also think you have the capacity to help and you often do. But
don't pretend to be speaking for the FreeBSD team because you are doing
them
mainstream, or because i have opinion at all, i just respond normally.
Wojtek - I also think you have the capacity to help and you often do. But
don't pretend to be speaking for the FreeBSD team because you are doing
reread my posts. i didn't speak for them and i said that i'm not them.
i AS
2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
mainstream, or because i have opinion at all, i just respond normally.
Wojtek - I also think you have the capacity to help and you often do. But
don't pretend to be speaking for the FreeBSD team because you are doing
reread my posts.
On Wed 27 May 2009 at 09:44:03 PDT Glen Barber wrote:
This is enough.
I agree.
It is characteristic of flamewars that the participants are no longer
talking about anything except each other. It's entirely off-topic.
I don't know which is more tiresome, Wojciech's edgy remarks or the
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:21:19PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
mainstream, or because i have opinion at all, i just respond normally.
Wojtek - I also think you have the capacity to help and you often do. But
don't pretend to be speaking for the FreeBSD team because you are doing
reread my
Sorry to wade in to this, but the reality has been and is just the
oposite. It is m. Puchar who has been making reactionary responses
and somewhat unkind ones at that.Is it a language issue? Or is
this. please tell me (privately) the fragment that you read as this,
because everything i
Hi there,
First of all, if anyone is still reading it, I apologize if I sounded
harsh but I do care about FreeBSD so it does bother me that potential
supporters are turned down. Explanation below.
anyway, i reread the original sponsoring offer and i think i understand
well. so - if FreeBSD
I am afraid you still do not understand it. This sponsorship offer was NOT
directed to you. Neither was it to me. I did not reply to it because it
was clearly addressed to the core team.
it was addressed to mailing list. if he would like to address it to core
team, then he would do this!
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