Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hello, On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 11:27, wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> >> Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? >> > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. > > > Wow, this is an old thread (over 3 years)! > Well I am a little behind on

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

On 6/7/2023 3:44 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28, wrote: > Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess > knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not Americans and we don't use the American keyboard layout.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Aitor, > On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:19 PM, Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > Hello Jerome, > > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel > wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Wow, this is an

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hello Jerome, On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper? > It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines. Aitor ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

Hi, On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 18:46, Eric Auer wrote: > > Probably just pull COUNTRY.SYS in favor of MKEYB. > > Make sure to check whether MKEYB works on 8086: It might > require AT level BIOS functionality. > If that ever becomes a problem, FD-KEYB implements the /9 switch to use in non-AT class

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

good day to all, a query, how can I get FreeDOS, according to HP told me that I have to request them from you to be able to generate the tests with your equipment, otherwise, the guarantee does not continue. First of all, Thanks El jue, 27 oct 2022 a la(s) 09:42, Dale E Sterner

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

Thank for the tip; I had no idea that could be done. I delete the s from the url and hit return it worked. I wonder what they are using now for cerificates, my browzer is loaded for bear and I still cann't connect. cheers DS On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:51:58 -0400 Jerome Shidel writes: > Hi, > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

Yes, or if you want to have HTTPS in WinXP, you can set up retro https proxy gateway on 2nd machine (Linux router, Raspberry Pi or newer Windows 7/10 device, MacOS etc). I recommend WebOne project: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=67165 On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:53 PM Jerome Shidel wrote:

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

Hi, > On Oct 17, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > > I recently tried to download Freedos 1.3 and had a problem. > I used XPsp2 ; the download failed with a " unable to complete > secure transaction". Your download source is too restricted. > > > > cheers > DS This is

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3

I recently tried to download Freedos 1.3 and had a problem. I used XPsp2 ; the download failed with a " unable to complete secure transaction". Your download source is too restricted. cheers DS ** >From Dale Sterner - MS organic

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos 1.3 on vm or real machine

Hello, in PO.KEY what I see is 26 + * !C5 in the common section (for every codepage). The second plane appears to be AltGr | Shift And 26 is in hex 1A. File:Ps2 de keyboard scancode set 1.svg - Wikimedia Commons In

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC5 error when installing

It's a Pentium 1 emachines win 98 box with pci and Isa slots On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, 2:07 PM Eric Auer, wrote: > > > http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/img/uploaded/image24.jpg > > > > while installing freedos 1.3 rc5 i get the error that you see in the > image. > > Now this is not your modern pc

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC5 error when installing

http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/img/uploaded/image24.jpg while installing freedos 1.3 rc5 i get the error that you see in the image. Now this is not your modern pc it's from the win 98/me days as it does have isa slots and has an SB16 with attached wave blaster. It is a pentium machine if

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC5 error when installing

So try 1.2 and see if that works and if so cool On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 1:46 AM Jerome Shidel, wrote: > > > On Dec 27, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Pyros wrote: > > http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/img/uploaded/image24.jpg > > while installing freedos 1.3 rc5 i get the error that you see in the > image.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC5 error when installing

> On Dec 27, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Pyros wrote: > > http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/img/uploaded/image24.jpg > > > while installing freedos 1.3 rc5 i get the error that you see in the image. > Now this is not your modern pc it's

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 driver selection, configuration and packaging wish list

Hi Eric, > And why are LHA and UNRAR not included at all? > Any license problems I have overlooked? http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages > PS: I would have included 386SWAT (debugger) and DPMIONE > (DPMI host for DOS extenders etc.) but those are closed > source:

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 driver selection, configuration and packaging wish list

Hi, that sounds great! I was planning to try HX RT. Thanks for the update. On Mon 7. 6. 2021 at 3:39, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi :-) > > I would like to refresh the discussion about 1.3 updates... > > *Part one, quick driver selection improvements* > > Questions about the next update of the 1.3

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 LiveCD hangs with lenovo ryzen 5 3500u

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 LiveCD hangs with lenovo ryzen 5 3500u

Hi! > Hello > > I'm having issues with booting FreeDOS 1.3 in live environment in my > Lenovo Ideapad S145 Laptop. After booting syslinux and isolinux, both > options, either install or boot into live environment, fail to load. It > loads memdisk and the fdlive image and hangs. > > I've

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

Hi Eric, > So... SLICER is something like TAR? If you feel the need to compare it to something, then it is most like tar than anything else. But, only in in one aspect. It is more like an installer in another. > A tool to put many > small files in one large file and back, uncompressed? No.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

Hi Jerome, if you do not believe that anybody will fix bugs, why do you even update the FreeDOS distro? Please make at least some published list of all bugs you encounter and discuss it here, too. It CAN happen that people fix bugs, even of other maintainers. What are the new beta fdisk 131

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

Hi Eric, > On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > it worries me that you SILENTLY dropped a newer fdisk and > switched to an older version because they both have bugs, > but the older version has less bad bugs. Please explain all > bugs which you have encountered

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

Hi Jerome, it worries me that you SILENTLY dropped a newer fdisk and switched to an older version because they both have bugs, but the older version has less bad bugs. Please explain all bugs which you have encountered and what keeps us from using a fixed even newer FDISK version. About the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

Hi Eric, > On Jul 5, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! Looking at the 720k boot disk for the installer, > I noticed that FDISKPT.INI and FDISK.INI are quite > large as the former contains many "definitions" of > unknown partition types and the latter contains only > comments and the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 floppy ideas

Hi! Looking at the 720k boot disk for the installer, I noticed that FDISKPT.INI and FDISK.INI are quite large as the former contains many "definitions" of unknown partition types and the latter contains only comments and the end of file marker, so I suggest to reduce the comments (mention that

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3

Hi, > On Jun 1, 2020, at 8:23 AM, mich...@robinson-west.com wrote: > >  > What is the goal for Freedos 1.3 Final? I’m not sure I understand your question. So, I will answer it literally. The main goals for 1.3 are to provide overall improvements compared to 1.2. Some of these include a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3

What is the goal for Freedos 1.3 Final? When possibly will the final release come out? May 31, 2020 5:45 PM, "Jerome Shidel" mailto:jer...@shidel.net?to=%22Jerome%20Shidel%22%20)> wrote: FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 is now available for download and testing.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

On at 2020-05-29 20:54 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > There may have been a bug in older FreeDOS boot sectors requiring > 186?? But I thought that was fixed (by ecm). I don't think I ever contributed to the boot sector loaders. I actually checked but there doesn't seem to be any such contribution.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi, On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:04 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On May 25, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > > I guess you could save some disk space by merging some of the > > tools into fewer, more versatile tools, due to cluster sizes? > > Sure, I “could do that”. But, I’m not going

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi, On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:26 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > > > On May 24, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > The extremely limited number of > machines out there that can run FreeDOS and don’t have EGA or > better graphics makes this a very low priority. Didn't Mateusz lightly patch and

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi, On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 6:56 AM Deposite Pirate wrote: > > May 24, 2020 4:07 AM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > > > > I may someday add support to V8PT for CGA. But, not soon. I even wonder why > > I limit my ASM code to > > 8086, when the kernel won’t even work on one. I think the lowest anyone

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi, > On May 25, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 25/05/2020 17:29, Jerome Shidel wrote: >> I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. > > Svarog86 is a FreeDOS distribution that uses the kernl86.sys. Works on my > 8086 with no troubles, although it

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

On 25/05/2020 17:29, Jerome Shidel wrote: I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. Svarog86 is a FreeDOS distribution that uses the kernl86.sys. Works on my 8086 with no troubles, although it has a few things turned off (for memory saving, not 8086

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi Eric, > On May 25, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> I thought you knew [that V8 means V8 Power Tools] Anyhow... > > Me maybe, but some who are interested in floppy distros not yet ;-) > >> They are a set of command line utilities written in assembly that >> can

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

May 25, 2020 5:30 PM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > I agree and have said several times, Emulation is not Hardware. > > I wouldn’t get anything lower than a 286 to Run the current kernl86.sys. > > But, as I said, the one tester in the IIRC had been running it on the NEC v30 > w/a 80186. Did a CPU >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi, > On May 25, 2020, at 11:02 AM, Deposite Pirate wrote: > > I wouldn't be too confident that PCem does not have bugs. I've played a lot > with it recently because my 1512's monitor needs to be repaired and I have > yet to find somewhere I can get that done. There are several things that >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

I wouldn't be too confident that PCem does not have bugs. I've played a lot with it recently because my 1512's monitor needs to be repaired and I have yet to find somewhere I can get that done. There are several things that don't work with PCem's 1512 emulation that should. I couldn't get a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News / 8086 compatibility

Hi Jerome, > I thought you knew [that V8 means V8 Power Tools] Anyhow... Me maybe, but some who are interested in floppy distros not yet ;-) > They are a set of command line utilities written in assembly that > can provide a Text based User Interface (TUI) and other... I guess you could save

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Eric > On May 24, 2020, at 1:39 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > what is V8PT and which beyond-text features does it need? I thought you knew this… Anyhow... V8PT (occasionally just V8) is short for V8Power Tools for DOS. They are a set of command line utilities written in

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

May 24, 2020 4:07 AM, "Jerome Shidel" wrote: > > I may someday add support to V8PT for CGA. But, not soon. I even wonder why I > limit my ASM code to > 8086, when the kernel won’t even work on one. I think the lowest anyone has > had success booting the > FreeDOS kernel was a 80186. FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Jerome, what is V8PT and which beyond-text features does it need? If the FreeDOS kernel does not boot on 8086, that would definitely be a bug. Remember that it is a compile time option whether you want 8086 compatible or whether it is okay to optimize for 186 / 286 / 386. I do not think we

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Eric, > On May 23, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >  > Hi Jerome, > >> https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ > > The page (by Jim and Aitor, it says) writes: > >> FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 coming soon + update on Floppy Edition

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Jerome, > https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ The page (by Jim and Aitor, it says) writes: > FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 coming soon + update on Floppy Edition > > Work on FreeDOS 1.3 has slowed since FreeDOS 1.3-RC2, but things are >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:46 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > what are the pros and cons of Links2, Dillo, Dillo Plus? Links2 is much newer, so presumably (main version, not "lite") has better SSL and graphics mode support. Probably much faster, too. ___

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi :-) Rugxulo: what are the pros and cons of Links2, Dillo, Dillo Plus? > DOSLFN [TSR] is probably your best bet (although there are other > alternatives). But LFNs don't work by default (except for DJGPP > stuff), so not everything supports it. Michael and others: For which tools would

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:44 AM wrote: > > I found a free packet driver and I'm testing both gopherus and Dillo. Very > nice programs. FreeDOS includes some others, but I forget the full list. There's quite a lot out there in the wild (maybe too much for us few volunteers!). If only

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 7:41 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > One request, MS-DOS 6.22 has a tool called MSD. I like that the tool > > shows resources and memory and other useful debugging information. > > If someone can clone that clone that tool I'd be very appreciative. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi Michael, > One request, MS-DOS 6.22 has a tool called MSD. I like that the tool > shows resources and memory and other useful debugging information. > If someone can clone that clone that tool I'd be very appreciative. I think MSD had very mixed features, which specifically do you want?

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

> MS DOS 6.x was not the end of MS-DOS. Windows 9x releases added a > strange protected mode, but unlike NT, these versions of Windows still ran on > top of MS-DOS. > There is no support for DOS based Windows any longer and the > ReactOS project essentially abandoned it. However, there are >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

The easiest way to support Windows 9x software would involve evolving FreeDOS into the 32-bit era, most likely via a kernel upgrade. Hmm, I seem to remember there being some little project aiming to do that... lol But yes, I agree it would be nice to have the option to run some older GUI

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:28 PM wrote: > > MS DOS 6.x was not the end of MS-DOS. Windows 9x releases added a strange > protected mode, but unlike NT, these versions of Windows still ran on top of > MS-DOS. Well, kinda. Win3.X ran on top of DOS, and was essentially a multi-tasking shell with

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Jerome, > Instead of copying the ISO, they could just copy the package > directories directly to the HDD. True, but not everybody who lacks optical drives has the infrastructure to extract files from ISOs or diskimages installed. Of course some readme / howto would help :-) > But off the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Eric, > Hi Jerome, thanks for your answers! :-) > It would be cool if it included the drivers for that > and a readme. Only so much fits on a floppy. With the basic tools required to partition and format, run the installer and perform some essential recovery tasks. It is getting kind of

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Jerome, thanks for your answers! Of course it would be cool if a live USB image would be automatically treated correctly by virtual computers, but I do not know how much or little a VMDK is needed. Pity that boot BIOS bugs are so different that one needs at least two boot style images to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Eric, Some good questions in there. I know you already know most of the things I cover in this message. But, I felt I should simplify a lot of the details and go over it for those who may not know some of this stuff. > On Dec 9, 2019, at 7:42 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! > > Thanks

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

My reply is at the bottom. Please put your reply there too. On Mon, 9 Dec 2019, Jim Hall wrote: We are still moving toward the FreeDOS 1.3 release.  FreeDOS 1.3 Release Candidate 2 is now available for download. Please help us test this new version! A big feature in FreeDOS 1.3 will be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi! Thanks for the announcements... I have some questions :-) If legacy avoids syslinux / memdisk, which computers can boot from CD but can not use syslinux / memdisk? And which computers can use syslinux / memdisk but can not boot from el torito (did you mean boot floppy image?) bootable CD?

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > Excuse me but I don't know what FREEDOS 1.3-RC1 is or what it can do. > It sounds important. > https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2019/02/freedos-13-rc1-is-ready-for-testing/

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

Excuse me but I don't know what FREEDOS 1.3-RC1 is or what it can do. It sounds important. cheers DS On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 10:50:12 -0500 Jerome Shidel writes: > Hi everyone, > > We really do want to hear your opinions on which LiveCD we should > keep. > > They both have very specific

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

Hi Eric, > On Feb 9, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > sorry about the missing context: fd13flop.img comments! > > The FDAUTO file mentions all those drivers, but does > not give instructions which of them can be combined. > > Users might try to use drivers at the same

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

Hi Jerome, sorry about the missing context: fd13flop.img comments! The FDAUTO file mentions all those drivers, but does not give instructions which of them can be combined. Users might try to use drivers at the same time which were meant to be used _either_ one _or_ the other. Have you tried

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

Hi Eric, > On Feb 9, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Some quick comments on the FreeDOS 1.3 RC 1 drivers: > > You should only load either UIDE or UDVD2 and make > sure that they have different "/D:...". I guess if > UIDE does all you need, you could change UDVD2 to a > commented out

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

Some quick comments on the FreeDOS 1.3 RC 1 drivers: You should only load either UIDE or UDVD2 and make sure that they have different "/D:...". I guess if UIDE does all you need, you could change UDVD2 to a commented out alternative. Also, since UIDE already does caching, you can comment out

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > > would it be possible to add a "CD1 style" mode to > the CD2? I think it is okay for people to download > larger ISOs but they like flexibility in RAM size. Yes. But, don’t you think it would be a little confusing for users

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC1

Hi Jerome, would it be possible to add a "CD1 style" mode to the CD2? I think it is okay for people to download larger ISOs but they like flexibility in RAM size. Regards, Eric > CD1 can run with 64MB of ram and can use GBs. > It also uses very little space on the CD. > CD2 is probably more