Re: [FRIAM] Human Magnetoreception!

Glen - As usual, your provocation lead me to speculate and google and speculate some more.   1. Is sleeping E/W significantly different and N/S geomagnetically?   (I prefer to be woken by the rising sun, myself, not so clear on the geomagnetic implications though) 2. Does the off-vertic

Re: [FRIAM] A First Look at the Bose Hearing Aid - Self-Fitting Bose "Hearing Aid" Resembles Bose Hearphones

Dave - I would be interested in hearing your experiences, especially if your need/use is "in the margins" (but threatening to grow). I think we will become the first generation of consumer-cyborgs...   When my reading vision started failing a few years ago, I didn't (still don't) have the habit/

Re: [FRIAM] is this true?

Eric - Thanks for adding to this conversation with plenty more grounding than I have in the details.   Since Glen's OP referenced Ketamine which seems to be a new entry into the psychologist's pantheon (or is it more an addition to the quiver?), I wonder if you have anything to say about the spec

Re: [FRIAM] Manifold Enthusiasts

Frank - > Perhaps annoying clarification.  The word closure has two important > meanings. > > In a topological space a set is closed if it is the complement of an > open set. > > In the more concrete case of Rn, which we're talking about, a set is > closed if it contains it's limit points (boundary

Re: [FRIAM] Manifold Enthusiasts

and as long as you're stepping > along the coast, you're still on it, it's closed under stepping, but it's not > a cycle. > > To be clear, I don't think anyone said anything wrong. I just wanted to > distinguish cycle from closure. > > > On 3/

Re: [FRIAM] Manifold Enthusiasts

> > Nick   > >   > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > >   > > *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve

Re: [FRIAM] An Etaoin Shrdlu Limited Edition - BestScienceFictionStories.com

did you order a copy?  I appreciated the irony of this edition being printed with hot type...  though I suspect the original edition in 1940 was too... there weren't a lot of options in those days (could have been hand-set cold type instead). According to my 9/11 conspiracy friends those termites

Re: [FRIAM] Manifold Enthusiasts

Nick - > All I can say is, for a man in excruciating pain, you sure write > good.  Your response was just what I needed.  > Something got crossed in the e-mails.   *I'*m not in excruciating pain... that would be (only/mainly/specifically) Frank, I think.  But thanks for the thought! Any excruciat

Re: [FRIAM] Manifold Enthusiasts

Carl - This may be a bit more than Nick is prepared for, but it IS an interesting/useful paper and table...  and perhaps somewhat relevant to the discussion around embodiment and mathematics and whether understanding through analogy/metaphor grounds out in sensorial experience or in something more

Re: [FRIAM] excess meaning alert? (was, Re: are we how we behave?)

Nor this one either... > Frank - >> I am under the influence of a couple of powerful pain drugs and I can >> barely walk.  So I may not be making sense. > I don't know what you mean by this, do you have a formula for it? > > - Steve > F

[FRIAM] Fwd: excess meaning alert? (was, Re: are we how we behave?)

I think this pre-cedent to Frank's reply didn't make the list. Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [FRIAM] excess meaning alert? (was, Re: are we how we behave?) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 11:02:14 -0700 From: Steven A Smith To: Frank Wimberly Frank - Wh

Re: [FRIAM] excess meaning alert? (was, Re: are we how we behave?)

> PS –One of the things I notice that I don’t share with you guys is a > history of reading Science Fiction.  I read /Etoin Shurdlu/ when I was > about 15, /Metamorphosis/ (Kofka) when I was about 17, and Shirley > Jackson’s /The Lottery/ when I was in my 20’s and that’s about it.  > I don't know h

Re: [FRIAM] is this true?

Nick - A) Autonomic bodily function.  Biomechanical body changes.   We can walk with a limp (or choose not to walk) because our leg is damaged without any change to the brain.  Perhaps our brain WILL change in response to our constant limping (or not leaving our chair/bed), but it isn't a brain ch

Re: [FRIAM] excess meaning alert? (was, Re: are we how we behave?)

Frank/Nick - > It's something you can move around on in a continuous way? elaborating slightly at the risk of obscuring or confounding: "a closed (hyper)surface you can move around on in a continuous way" I don't know if /closed/ and /continuous/ are redundant in this case, but for Nick's ed

Re: [FRIAM] excess meaning alert? (was, Re: are we how we behave?)

Lee - > Steve writes in relevant part: > >> My position is that I favor each and every one of us taking whatever >> responsibility for understanding our own "convex hull" of >> capability/knowledge/intuition as we are capable of and "managing" it to >> the best of our ability. > The quotation marks

Re: [FRIAM] is this true?

o therapies change the brain in the same or similar ways > seems pretty sketchy to me. > > On 3/8/19 10:34 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: >> I think you are asking something more sophisticated though?   If we believe >> that there are *some* kinds of changes to the brain (such as

Re: [FRIAM] Homo Hiveus

Dave - I am sympathetic with your disappointment when tangential topics are risen in a thread but then lost or dropped.   This is what fresh threads are made of?   Owen used to harp on blatant threadbending, which is rampant here, but rather than our having collectively improved ourselves, I think

Re: [FRIAM] is this true?

Glen - Another interesting question to speculate around (as usual)! On the face of it, the question of whether there are brain changes in response to therapy or pharmaceuticals, would seem to be very trite or another form of the mind/body (mind/brain) question.  My trite answer to the implied tri

[FRIAM] Homo Hiveus

Marcus - > If person with skill 1 delegates to individuals with distinct skills 2 and 3 > and person with skill 3 delegates to individuals with skills 4 and 5 the kind > of overlap of the kind you mention still can occur. If developing any > these skills takes decades, why is it important t

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

ever shrinking domains.  Laboratories are > organized gangs of specialists competing to recast problems into nails > for their hammers.  Narrow specialists dominate because it's the only > safe thing to profess.  Spread out and some specialist will rip you a > new one. > > -- rec --

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

I think we have been Cartooned? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxdGjwyWsAAgFGV.jpg > Steve writes: > > "I think you described the difference between vocational training and an > education." > > Do you believe the courses captured something deep, learned by humanity over > generations, or is

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

Marcus - Marcus - My quote of Heinlein the renowned "Human Chauvanist" was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.   I applaud the general spirit of the polymath, always seeking, never-say-die he implies here, but as you point out, there is no clear boundary around how much one can learn. And in the spirit of

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

re with anyone interested when it is > published.] > >   > > The point of this reminiscence: As an experiment we put the knowledge > base expected of our students in the form of traditional 3-4 credit > courses. The number of courses and credits required was the equivalent >

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

Dave - > First some elaboration: > > In 25 BC, Vitruvius (considered the founder of the discipline of > architecture) stated: > > "The ideal architect should be a man of letters, a skillful draftsman, a > mathematician, familiar with historical studies, a diligent student of > philosophy, acqu

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

Marcus - I don't mean to dismiss the true value of diversity and the phenomena of "punctuated equilibrium".   What I think we are describing AS culture would be the equilibrium-of-the-moment/millenia and it would seem natural/inevitable that punctuation will occur. I think you are advocating for

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

> Steve writes: > > "I think you described the difference between vocational training and an > education." > > Do you believe the courses captured something deep, learned by humanity over > generations, or is it simply that it was broader than vocational training? I think there is a differenc

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

e era to the next? Do the practical elements of >> "learning" evolve over time? Does it really ... really? ... help to >> know how a motor works in order to drive a car? ... to reliably drive >> a car so that one's future is more predictable? ... to reduce

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

list). Is what it means to "learn" something fundamentally different from > one era to the next? Do the practical elements of "learning" evolve over > time? Does it really ... really? ... help to know how a motor works in order > to drive a car? ... to reliably

[FRIAM] Institutional reminiscences...

Marcus - I believe that is the very same division.  It was D when I was there, recently TSA before that which was a merger of A and TS before that I think!   To be fair it wasn't *all* *always* like that, but there was a strong over/undertone.   I fled HPC (formerly CIC, formerly C) to evade the "

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

Marcus/Glen/Nick - > https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/modern-elder-resort-silicon-valley-ageism.html > Ha! It's more likely that, "Every year, I edit out more details that may > contradict my opinion of myself." > > On 3/1/19 2:49 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > An el

Re: [FRIAM] are we how we behave?

All this evokes my memory of a favorite "truism": /I am who you think I think I am!/ > Ha! It's more likely that, "Every year, I edit out more details that may > contradict my opinion of myself." > > On 3/1/19 2:49 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: >> An elderly friend of ours used to say, somewha

Re: [FRIAM] Quantum Computing

FWIW, my nephew is in the middle of his PhD in Materials Science in the UofA working on their Phononic Quantum Computing program.    I can't suss out how fast it is moving... he only sees the project through the tiny sliver of his own contribution, but it *seems* to promise much larger PhiBit (Phon

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen - > "Automism" is a funky word. But if it means something like knee-jerk > reaction, then I get it. The important question you ask evaluates negative, > though. No, nothing "is what it is however it comes to be." This is an > instance of the logical abstraction layer I've been mentionin

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

siological machine operating in a physical environment. > > Nick > > Nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > -Original Message- > From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Marcus - Ok... I think I did tangent on your point about your dog (as I sit with two very different dogs at my feet, neither of which have herding instincts but each with very acute instincts of their own (1 purebred Akita and doberman mix). My own experience with mob-behaviour is that there is s

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

> There's something nagging at me. Not surprising, this was pretty "off the cuff" but I'll try to either defend/modify/retract as appropriate. > But I can't quite figure out what it is. On the one hand, you say "The > larger culture is where these attractors ... exist." Yet you seem to allo

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

I appreciate the point: It's not the result of a dynamical system that occurs has occurred on the timescale of her life. There may be psychochemical dynamical systems inside her body involved in maintaining "sight of you" and there likely *were* complex feedback loops in the intentional breedin

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

I don't know if this helps but these group-experiences seem to me to have the feature of phase-lock, canalization, and entrainment.  I recently *re*watched a surreal dystopian scandinavian film "The Bothersome Man" where the protaganist finds himself (after a suicide/attempt) delivered to a city/j

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven A Smith *Sent:* Tuesday, January 15, 2019 1:13 PM *To:* friam@redfish.com *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Few of you

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Barry - Fascinating anecdote!... pretty studly, canoeing (open canoe?) in that country anytime of year.   I don't think "normal" kids do that kind of stuff anymore! - Steve On 1/15/19 2:07 PM, Barry MacKichan wrote: Funny, I was going to mention this (the hybrid car, not the interview) as w

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

I appreciate the introduction of "roles" and "topics" and "attractors" here.    I would say that *I* experience all three slightly differently: Roles:  This subdivides into (roughly?) 3 modes 1. Roles I was born/raised into...  Son, brother, classmate, boyfriend, husband, father.   These wer

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Nick - Attempting to respond to the "algorithmic" subtopic: I have felt from an early age (before I knew the term algorithm) that the socio-political-religious-economic systems we all operate within are algorithmic.   I am prone to define "fascism" as any such systems which go over some magic

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

Glen claims "antisocial" and I think Dave has mentioned his own "tendency to withdraw from society" (my paraphrase, I welcome correction or elaboration.    I hypothosize that *many* who are significantly engaged in online discussion/community may well fit one of the myriad positions on (and nea

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

ame back to them, just didn't feel the urge to complete them, or my self-consciousness over not wanting to add noise over signal overwhelms my need to compulsively express my opinion on just about everything posited here. - Steve On 1/11/19 11:43 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: As a co

Re: [FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

Marcus - In fact, I don't even want my tax revenue to go to parts of the country that I see as having regressive tendencies.The greater good isn't for the greater good. For me, I am fine to mainly supporting the people around me who do good work. I don’t see that as tribal, just the fa

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

David - Steven, Is is a pleasure to do discourse with you. The pleasure is mutual. Minor clarification: When I mention "sentient life" I do indeed include all life. In fact, given that I take as a working assumption the Vedic (and then Buddhist) notion that the entire universe, all the way

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Great Man theory, where people like Einstein or whoever are "10-100 times more effective than average". If we *parse* "effective" well, then it's true. But we're in danger of assuming that efficacy in action is somehow directly related to "deep thought" o

Re: [FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

Marcus - My own experience at LANL for 27 years (leaving 11 years ago yesterday) is roughly similar to your own.   Having been in the hardscrabble world of startup/product-development/consulting for the remaining time, there are things about being "institutionalized" that I miss, but much of w

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Dave - First, why /Win Bigly/ recommend. Adams' book is his attempt to understand, to deconstruct and analyze, why he "knew" with complete certainty that Trump would win simply by observing one of his first political rallies. From where did that conviction arise? Why was it so absolute? Adams

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Eric writes: "I also love his characterization of the core message of Putin: We are shit. You are shit. It’s all bullshit. What democracy?” Marcus writes: If it is all bullshit, then why not steal Putin's stuff? You know, just for shits and grins. I guess if people are just demoralized

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Marcus - < On the other hand, as I always ask conspiracy theorists, "what if his presence in this role *serves* the Deep State?" > To clarify, I’m talking about the hypothesis of a Deep State that breaks rules as they need to be broken to advance the general welfare of people in the country

Re: [FRIAM] Another few ponderances

Gil - My most relevant experience is having gone through 2 different periods of following a Ketogenic dietary regimen... once roughly 3 months and the other roughly 6.   My motives were varied, but included trying to experience a *different* metabolic state than the one I've become comfortabl

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Marcus Daniels wrote: If there were a deep state it would have disappeared this guy.   Hierarchical systems are way too efficient. I'd like to (and sometimes do) believe that Trump & Co's apparent incompetence and general foolishness reflects a lack of deep conspiracy ON the Right, as well

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

s one of the few places on earth where, fwiw, people are struggling with the problem.  Fighting the good fight against semantic hegemony. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ *From:*Friam

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Marcus - Thanks for that deep dive into the (lack of) structure of Trump's bombast.   I'm not sure that the 39% (number varies) of his base are simply deplorable breadth-never parsers, though it would seem they would have to be to not trip over his rhetoric.   Some (maybe even members of this

Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

d that I know work there.) And I don't think Alvarez is a virulent type of Republican. So, there's that, I guess. On 1/9/19 11:05 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: Thanks a LOT Gil/Glen, NOW I'm thirsty for beer, and have been since I read it soon after you posted. Good writing &

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

Nick writes: < Ok, Marcus, I am standing my ground as a realist here: ():-[)> There you go trying to claim semantics for terms in a public dictionary again.   (That’s an example of taking ground, like in my Go example.)    Doing so constrains what can even be *said*.   It puts the skeptic i

Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

Thanks a LOT Gil/Glen, NOW I'm thirsty for beer, and have been since I read it soon after you posted. Good writing & delivery as you noted, would we call this some kind of Beer Rebus? I do love the craft brew movement, but have to admit that my fridge has the remnants of a Shiner variety pac

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

I think I want to be a Springbok!  I feel as if I've slipped sideways into the alternate reality presented in the movie _The Lobster_ . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK6i2Ivlphw Ok, Marcus, I am standing my ground as a realist here: ():-[) You cannot be against categories because you ca

Re: [FRIAM] Statistical poser (aka fact checking is hard)

It is to this point that I prefer to think in terms of "neurodiverse" rather than "mentally ill".   Your definitions here respond more to my idea of "sociopathy".    I don't think of sociopaths as being mentally ill, just not good members of the society they find themselves in.   Most *L*iberta

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

I have spent my life cultivating hypnopompic and hypnogogic states...  this, which supports lucid dreaming, is my best way to access mystical states...   mindfulness meditation, as I practice it, can lapse into these states if I allow it. I was put off by the drug-culture of my peers in the 60

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

This bend within an already bent thread caused me to put down my screen (aka computer in this case) and pick up the lingering paper Sunday NYT Book Review section I'd been hoarding (at the risk of it becoming fire-starter when I wasn't looking).   The cover is a Surrealist drawing, nominally of

Re: [FRIAM] Android question.

Sounds a bit like Doug Robert's "ghost of Nexus Past" showing himself... I was having issues last summer with Android. Marcos sugested I flash reset to factory.  I put LineageOS on it (Cynagen Mod). It did a update yesterday? Maybe thursday. It's doing a weird thing where if I have music dow

Re: [FRIAM] a memory less ephemeral: Narrating Complexity

the bullet and do it now? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ *From:*Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven A Smith *Sent:* Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:52 AM

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering weird english words

I like the paral-lax provided by the roughly synonymous neologisms:     be-lax and     chill-lax On 12/30/18 11:01 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: re·lax Origin late Middle English: from Latin /relaxare/, from /re-/(expressing intensive force) + /laxus/ ‘lax, loose.’ ---

[FRIAM] a memory less ephemeral: Narrating Complexity

This just out: https://susan-stepney.blogspot.com/2018/12/narrating-complexity.html Is anyone here familiar with any of the contributors' work? From the Springer website:     https://www.springer.com/gb/book/9783319647128 */Narrating Complexity/* /This book stages a dialogue between i

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Your workspace "sfComplex" is inactive, and is scheduled to be reclaimed

Wow!   Blast from the past! I recommend letting entropy continue to reclaim everything, including this. On 12/29/18 9:29 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Should we just let this die? Or would it be of use?  -- Owen -- Forwarded message - From: *PBworks*

[FRIAM] Preference Order Ecosystems: was Trumpism

ructed Commons...  and perhaps others already are familiar with rich territory to look in. Eric On Dec 28, 2018, at 7:04 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: oops... originally sent only to Marcus by mistake... On 12/28/18 6:59 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/28/poli

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

oops... originally sent only to Marcus by mistake... On 12/28/18 6:59 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/28/politics/maine-governor-certifies-congressional-election/index.html *From:* Steven A Smith

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

Jochen - A little less, tongue-in-cheek: Thanks for the positive thoughts... and I think you can add to your list of "isms" we need to understand 'more better' to avoid giving them more power over us are other abstractions like "democracy" and "capitalism".    I grew up worshiping the latter

Re: [FRIAM] 2019 - The end of Trumpism

I prefer the model of Twain's "history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes"... It appears that the great poem of life has lapsed into a riff of thug-rap (taking names and popping caps)...  which could go on for quite a while... apparently there are a lot of folks who want/need that kind of angry/

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

I've always taken "the Troll" to be a species of Trickster... not always comfortable, but often valuable. On 11/14/18 7:39 AM, ∄ uǝʃƃ wrote: > It's come to mean many things, but all along the lines of provocation. > Boghossian et al, for example, did a *great* job at provoking Wilson and Shaw

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Pondering the slang Adulting

In response to this point as well as Marcus',  I think that the concept of "becoming"... in this case "becoming an adult" is fascinating in the sense that it is something hard to reverse.   "Innocence is a terrible thing to lose", yet our attempt to raise our children (and/or ourselves) up to be "a

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

I've always preferred the pronunciation of "adult" as "A Dolt"... it is what I remember adults seeming like right up until I woke up and realized "now I am one!" On 11/13/18 8:38 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > I have often mused about trying to explain to a child what “adult” > means, given > >   >

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM Archive

It might be a good time for someone to volunteer to take over list maintenance?  RedFish&Co (in the persons of Guerin and Densmore) take on a *lot* of hidden responsibilities to this community.   I don't know who here might feel willing/able to pick up the responsibility for managing the lists (an

Re: [FRIAM] On old question

he (and Hubler) referred to as "interreality": Mixed Reality States in a Bidirectionally Coupled Interreality System <https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0611293> ? On 10/24/18 2:29 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > Glen/Nick/Marcus/Dave/et alia - > > For reasons I can't beg

Re: [FRIAM] On old question

Glen/Nick/Marcus/Dave/et alia - For reasons I can't begin to enumerate here, I have been unable to keep up with this list beyond reading/skimming every day or three and each time I formulate a response or contribution to a thread, it sits for another cycle (1-3 days) and feels stale or misbegotten

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

t; Two pipes connected by an angle will be more articulated than a single pipe > (of the same length). By extension, then, 3 pipes connected by a splitter > will be more articulated than two pipes connected by an angle. > > On 08/21/2018 02:36 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: >> Matri

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

Glen - >> Reticulation is much more powerful, I think. But, yes, it seems to target >> the leaves or the most-fractalized part of the network. But that brings to >> mind: "matriculation" (from matrix) and "articulation", for whatever reason. >> Matriculation does indeed seem to be related to

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

xcluding the foliage, etc. ... just containing the part after > branching begins and before the branching is complete.) Like Steels' robots, > I could make any random bleeping noise to name the part of the network at > which I'm pointing and everyone would understand. [sigh] An

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

Thanks for this twist Eric... We all know "you can verbize any noun"... it is interesting to see that to "nounize an adjective, but you must do it by way of a transitive verb" I think that in the sense of linguistic and mathematical transitivity, maybe one of the features found in the structures

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

∄ uǝʃƃ - I can't believe none of us offered up "plexus" along the way!   I think your invocation of "bed" *IS* maybe better served by "plenum" and I can see how the portmanteau of plenum and nexus naturally arrive at "plexus" as suggested.   Plenum seems to connote "mixing" not just collection/di

Re: [FRIAM] the slacker rules

    "Sometimes the most you can do is nothingI" I think this is a special case of impedance matching between the individual and the "institution" within which the individual operates. > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/16/science/ants-worker-idleness.html > > -- rec -- > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

ere the branchedness is essential to the phenomena under study.  I > thought I was making it up, maybe next time. > > -- rec -- > > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:28 AM Steven A Smith <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: > > Roger - > > Interesting to int

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

Roger - Interesting to introduce Dendrometry (tree growth) as _yet another_ metaphorical target domain beyond the liquid flow, erosion/sedimentation of rivers. Is there something in tree (plants in general?) growth that is specifically apt for this purpose?  Or were you perhaps using Dendrometr(i

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

Glen - hmmm...  "Plexus" as a portmanteau of Plectic and Nexus then? I sense in your groping/grasping/grappling for this word/phrase that you are seeking *both* explicit and implicit connectivity?   "Weaving" suggests to me that you are thinking implicit connections as much as explicit your use o

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

Glen - I haven't converged on precisely what you are looking for here...   but am fascinated with the question. My best guess at the general area you are contemplating would involve the graph theoretic idea of a "cluster" and/or imply something about (dis)assortativity.    I think maybe what you

Re: [FRIAM] Ok STEM folks, explain?

Looks like the Loch Ness Monster traveled up the Rio Grande, the Santa Fe River into Arroyo Chamiso? I have an arroyo behind my house in San Ildefonso which is also wide and flat which had this behaviour a few years ago during a flash flood.  6' tall standing waves for a good 30 minutes.   On 7/

Re: [FRIAM] Science question...re: cold neck scarfs

Gil - There is always a lot of blood flow between the heart and the brain which passes through the neck, fairly close to the skin.   Among the many things blood does, is act as a working fluid to try to help thermoregulate the body...   passing hot blood near the surface of the skin where evaporat

Re: [FRIAM] What is an object?

Nick - Another answer to your question, and those raised by the other responses to yours is to another question... rather than literally about what OO Programmers/Designers mean by "Object", but what features are most useful to someone who *doesn't* write software or design systems. It is worth

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

be: > oh have tried (forum here) I found them really great for (stuff here)?! > > I did ask presbytarian because---bluntly I've had enought of Saint > Vincents being jerks about routine questions.So why not ask for others > experience? is that not a good idea? oO > > On

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

Gil - I am intuiting from your current riff of questions/anecdotes here, that you are feeling out of sorts on many fronts.  With a significant engagement with the health-care system, THAT interface is an important one for you and is broadly, if not categorically not working for you right now...  v

Re: [FRIAM] The Spectra and Dimensionality of Collaboration

Glen - > I like (kinda agree with) everything you say in that last post, except the > following: > > On 07/12/2018 09:50 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: >> I think I hear the key to your reflection here being the *expectation* >> of the band (or it's members) on you

[FRIAM] The Spectra and Dimensionality of Collaboration

with my ability to listen carefully. So, yeah, if you want me to > move, play rote ostinatos that I've heard over and over again in one form or > the other. But if you want me to *hear*, then play something interesting and > don't demand any movement from me. 8^) > > > O

Re: [FRIAM] Lets try this again reaching out for advice and opinions

rre to > think that the people producing such beautiful audioscapes would ever need, > much less want, my feedback. But they do. > > > On 07/11/2018 11:50 AM, Steven A Smith wrote: >> Glen, your anecdote joins nicely with Jaqueline's question "if this list >>

[FRIAM] FriAM is dead! Long live FriAM

Gil - FWIW, I can sense that you might be on the edge of your own "symmetry break"... that you are struggling hard to break some patterns which have (apparently) worked well enough for you for some time, but which seem not to (current psych doc, current GP, daily activities, exercise habits, etc.)

[FRIAM] Fwd: Re: life, music, dance

Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [FRIAM] life, music, dance Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:59:09 -0600 From: Steven A Smith To: uǝlƃ ☣ You can never have enough X but you can most definitely have too much X X==money, fame, alcohol, charm, attention, age, youth

Re: [FRIAM] Lets try this again reaching out for advice and opinions

Glen, your anecdote joins nicely with Jaqueline's question "if this list is dead, where will all the lurkers go?" to create an image of hundreds of heads at hundreds of screens bobbing up and down! This triggers for me, the famous film quote (tagline?) from the Alien 4 part trilogy: "In space, nob

Re: [FRIAM] What's so bad about Scientism?

Re: Decision Paralysis.  A sage friend of mine used to say "sometimes the most you can do is nothing".  I'm also lead to think of "Symmetry Breaking" in dynamical systems. Re: Gil's question of whether this list is dead or not...  I certainly have dialed back my participation in the psuedo philoso

Re: [FRIAM] oldest domain names

I (vaguely) remember when "bangpaths" gave over to DNS routing for e-mail with .UUCP being a pseudo DNS address for automatic path "rewriting" using the UUNET maps collaboratively published. How far we have come (for both better and worse, it seems)! On 6/26/18 1:40 PM, glen wrote: > https://www

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