Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Dale Schumacher
smoking has associated health care costs? Nick Thompson, From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr Burachynsky Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:21 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] vol

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Roger Critchlow
Of course, that's the whole issue. Do we let faceless bureaucrats figure these things out and impose burdensome regulations? Or do we let gangs of rapacious attorneys sue for ruinous damages after the fact? Or is there another way to force consideration of public good into decisions about

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Douglas Roberts
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote: Of course, that's the whole issue. Do we let faceless bureaucrats figure these things out and impose burdensome regulations? Yes, consistently. Or do we let gangs of rapacious attorneys sue for ruinous damages after the

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
surgeon to feel the pain of every incision he makes? Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:19 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Douglas Roberts
[mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:19 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 Of course, that's the whole issue. Do we let faceless bureaucrats figure these things out

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Sarbajit Roy
What the majority of people do IS the right thing. Wisdom of crowds and so on. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: Geeze, Nick. You can't make people do the right thing. People have to want to do the right thing. People don't want to do the right

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Douglas Roberts
In the absence of a functioning moral compass, I suppose this is a workable definition. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com wrote: What the majority of people do IS the right thing. Wisdom of crowds and so on. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Douglas Roberts

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Carl Tollander
Panic over intangibles is the right thing? Promise? On 3/29/11 11:30 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: In the absence of a functioning moral compass, I suppose this is a workable definition. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Sarbajit Roy sroy...@gmail.com mailto:sroy...@gmail.com wrote: What

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Douglas Roberts
Good point, Carl. I really should have said, In the absence of a functioning moral compass, and a modicum of intelligence... On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com wrote: Panic over intangibles is the right thing? Promise? On 3/29/11 11:30 AM, Douglas Roberts

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:26 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links to these sites: friam.org What the majority

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Pamela McCorduck
...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:26 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 McAfee SiteAdvisor Warning This e-mail message contains potentially unsafe links

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Douglas Roberts wrote at 03/29/2011 09:33 AM: People don't want to do the right thing. There is no evidence for this conclusion. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-29 Thread Douglas Roberts
Whatever you say, Glen. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:22 PM, glen e. p. ropella g...@tempusdictum.comwrote: Douglas Roberts wrote at 03/29/2011 09:33 AM: People don't want to do the right thing. There is no evidence for this conclusion. -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095,

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-25 Thread Russ Abbott
-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Vladimyr Burachynsky *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:21 PM *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 It appears that your conclusion was made independent

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
It appears that your conclusion was made independent of the facts. Perhaps your conclusion serves some unidentified agenda, could you explain who WE is and how the PRICE TAG is adjusted to effect a specific end? I ecall how the price of cigarettes in Canada was increased to reflect the supposed

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Douglas Roberts
:) On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky vbur...@shaw.cawrote: It appears that your conclusion was made independent of the facts. Perhaps your conclusion serves some unidentified agenda, could you explain who WE is and how the PRICE TAG is adjusted to effect a specific end?

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 It appears that your conclusion was made independent of the facts. Perhaps your conclusion serves some unidentified agenda, could you explain who WE is and how the PRICE TAG is adjusted to effect a specific end? I ecall how the price of cigarettes in Canada was increased

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Russ Abbott
] vol 93, issue 22 It appears that your conclusion was made independent of the facts. Perhaps your conclusion serves some unidentified agenda, could you explain who WE is and how the PRICE TAG is adjusted to effect a specific end? I ecall how the price of cigarettes in Canada was increased

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Carl Tollander
[mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Vladimyr Burachynsky *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:21 PM *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 It appears that your conclusion

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Russ Abbott
? Nick Thompson, *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Vladimyr Burachynsky *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:21 PM *To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 It appears

Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22

2011-03-24 Thread Carl Tollander
*To:* 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] vol 93, issue 22 It appears that your conclusion was made independent of the facts. Perhaps your conclusion serves some unidentified agenda, could you explain who WE is and how the PRICE TAG