Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > > Your red scare was too effective :). Links and text changed. > > OK, I can take that red stuff away, if nobody complains. We should probably warn that there are some formatting problems, but otherwise I think it is OK. > It would be enough if we claim that this is no

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-19 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
> Your red scare was too effective :). Links and text changed. OK, I can take that red stuff away, if nobody complains. It would be enough if we claim that this is now the "official" adapted version of the Jenks & Sutor book for FriCAS with the addition "If you find inconsistencies, please send m

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-19 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > On 02/18/2018 06:14 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > I have now put extra text on documentation page to explain > > that .pdf and .html are old. Of course it would be better > > to have up-to-date version, but that requires appropriate > > proces and developing it is more tr

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-18 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 02/18/2018 06:14 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > I have now put extra text on documentation page to explain > that .pdf and .html are old. Of course it would be better > to have up-to-date version, but that requires appropriate > proces and developing it is more tricky than one time job. And why d

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-18 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Riccardo Guida > > Right, bad wording: replace "official" by "reliable". > I have now put extra text on documentation page to explain that .pdf and .html are old. Of course it would be better to have up-to-date version, but that requires appropriate proces and developing it is more tricky than o

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-15 Thread riccardo . guida
@oldk1331: >3. Online shell. I may produce a online shell similar to sympy in the next >few (3~6) months. ... nice, but it is not me who decides what is urgent or not. @oldk1331: >TeXmacs interface could provide more functionality than jupyter, >as the latter uses a web interface. I know Te

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-15 Thread riccardo . guida
Dear Waldek, thanks for your explanation on FriCAS long term goals. Below a few, mild replies. > In general > you need to figure out what package manager given disto uses and what > flavour of packages it needs. That already two extra steps compared to > using a tarball (OK, using a tarball yo

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-14 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Riccardo Guida wrote: > > 1) INSTALL. > Well, by definition, NO user will ever manually compile a source code. > Furthermore a user has no virtual machines and just one working environment > which she does not want to screw up if something goes wrong. > > The fricas binaries I downloaded work

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-12 Thread oldk1331
Hi Waldek, I would like to hear your opinions on other topics: 1. INSTALL. It's been half a year since last discussion about Debian packaging, how is it going? 2. Website. Do you agree that the website need some improvements? (more user friendly and SEO friendly) 5. Documentation. What are yo

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-12 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Riccardo Guida wrote: > > On 2/10/18 7:59:24 AM CET Andrey G. Grozin wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Feb 2018, riccardo.gu...@gmail.com wrote: > > > --- The project fricas_jupyter (with binaries) looked interesting but > > > one is required to have binaries compiled with SBCL 1.2.x . > > > Unfortunatel

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-11 Thread riccardo . guida
Dear Andrey, Thanks for your reply. Below some additional explanations on my post. On 2/10/18 7:59:24 AM CET Andrey G. Grozin wrote: > On Fri, 9 Feb 2018, riccardo.gu...@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, by definition, NO user will ever manually compile a source code. > Well, I never run any program

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-11 Thread riccardo . guida
Dear Ralf having a status-of-the-project message somewhere in the official site would indeed be quite useful for new users. That said, your message transmits a feeling of sadness :) I advice you to be a little more positive, like eg: FriCAS is a relatively young project. There is a group of

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-10 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Ric, Thank you very much for this feedback. Don't worry, I don't take it personally, but appreciate it. And no matter how many hours you wasted before you thought of asking at the fricas-devel mailing list, yes you are right, the documentation is a big mess. I would really like to have it in

Re: [fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-09 Thread Andrey G. Grozin
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018, riccardo.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, by definition, NO user will ever manually compile a source code. Well, I never run any program which I have not compiled myself. I use Gentoo Linux, by the way. Call it paranoia, but I don't trust binaries whic can contain anything, an

[fricas-devel] Impressions

2018-02-09 Thread riccardo . guida
Hi Ralf & oldk1331 asked me to detail my first impressions as a user approaching FriCAS. Below you'll find a reasoned (time-consuming) list where I tried to (fearlessly and pitilessly) pinpoint what appears to be "sub-optimal". Of course it migh well be that I'm missing some important point or