Re: Help (Way OT)

2009-06-16 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Amanda Wardamanda.w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All... There are a lot of serious tech folk out there. Can someone with Sun system experience contact me off-list? I'm not sure how this is at all tech related, but I think wikipedia can probably answer most of

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Charles Leningtonmacso...@brightok.net wrote: What I don't understand, is why this thread is being discussed on this list? There is a proper list for list issues. http://groups.google.com/group/lemlists?hl=en Oh please, that list is just where banned members

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread John Musbach
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessiofluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about list rules and policies is not off topic. Except that it is, it belongs on the lemlists list but since that's simply a blackhole where all complaints fall to deaf ears no one posts there... Even

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:24 AM, John Musbachjohnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessiofluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about list rules and policies is not off topic. Except that it is, it belongs on the lemlists list but since that's

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread John Musbach
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessiofluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever the agenda is we all agreed to the terms of use when we joined. They are Dan's lists to run run as he pleases. There are other options on the web. Is he running it? I haven't heard a peep from

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:31 AM, John Musbachjohnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessiofluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever the agenda is we all agreed to the terms of use when we joined. They are Dan's lists to run run as he pleases. There

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Lawrence David Eden
RPM has posted her builds of the latest Firefox 3.0.11. Note that the Moz developers have finally updated the app names, so they build correctly. Only official builds are allowed to use the Firefox name. All others, like these 3rd party optimized builds, are required to use the code names.

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread nestamicky
Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. Well that's fine, but my Pismo 400 runs Youtube well, way, better than the Ti G4. Stephen Weber On Mon, Jun

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: How are the above mentioned builds different from the version that Firefox automatically updated my BW to? They lack the code for any processor type other than the CPU for which they are optimised (British spelling of RPMs page). They

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-16 Thread Ricardo Sevilla
matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger You can run Leopard on your g4 if it has an 8xxmhz processor and a stick of 512 of ram. I would recommend a good video card also. In my

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Po-en Tsai
On 16/06/2009, at 3:24 PM, nestamicky wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:44 PM, nestamicky wrote: Well that's fine, but my Pismo 400 runs Youtube well, way, better than the Ti G4. Have you tried enabling Quartz Extreme on the TiBook? If not, it might be worth a try, using PCI Extreme 3.1 from MacUpdate. It works fine under 10.4.11 on

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread nestamicky
Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. I've had some Pentium III PC laptops that were

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:52 PM, nestamicky wrote: I would think, being completely drunk, that a 1.58 ghz machine would beat a P3 machine. I may have misstated the PIII speed, I could never quite figure it out? It's a Compaq Presario 1710 with a 1GHz CPU, and sometimes it seemed to report

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-16 Thread Ted Treen
matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger You can run Leopard on your g4 if it has an 8xxmhz processor and a stick of 512 of ram. You will not have a happy experience with less than

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-16 Thread John Hanson
Since no one seems to have answered the original question, no, you cannot put a Core Duo processor into a G4, it simply won't fit. With a hammer and a chisel, it may go in, but it probably won't work. As others have stated, RAM and video card are two of the best upgrades you can do to a Mac, in

Re: New Java Update/Software Update Glitch

2009-06-16 Thread norm46
Tried to use the software update but would not install so downloaded the package and it did install. Just my $.02 On Jun 16, 12:30 am, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Kris Tilford wrote: There's a new Java Update today, again, we're about a year and a half   behind Windows/PC world.

Fwd: installing Espon workforce600 on iMac

2009-06-16 Thread Bill Walter
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:38:57 -0500 To: g3-5-list+h...@googlegroups.com From: Bill Walter brass...@pldi.net Subject: installing Espon workforce600 on iMac Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: I have followed Epson's instructions on installing print driver for an Epson Workforce 600 on a G4 iMac 15

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 15, 2009, at 5:29 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote: Hi Adrian, good question re:Color Calibration's Usefulness To Me? It's easy to overlook the variable knowledge bases and interests of the list members in one's quest for assistance with a more narrow question. The purpose of my efforts

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 5:21 AM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: How are the above mentioned builds different from the version that Firefox automatically updated my BW to? The generic builds, provided by the Mozilla team, are compiled for use on all

HP photosmart 7960

2009-06-16 Thread John Callahan
Would someone please tell me why when I start to print from my G4 PowerMac QuickSilve(2002) to my hp photosmart 7960 I have to unplug the USB and power supply to get it to work. I have reinstalled the printer app and down loaded and installed the latest version, no help. Trying to get

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Dan wrote: If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. Monolingual does NOT remove code. It strips out alternate language resources

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread nestamicky
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamickynestami...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 10:47 AM -0700 6/16/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Dan wrote: If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. Monolingual does NOT remove

Re: New Java Update/Software Update Glitch

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 6:09 AM -0700 6/16/2009, norm46 wrote: Tried to use the software update but would not install so downloaded the package and it did install. Just my $.02 Just went to update our powerbook. The download failed outright, the first attempt. Then it got about 60 MB (of 87) -- and proceeded with

Re: New Java Update/Software Update Glitch

2009-06-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Dan wrote: What is with Apple? Why can't they get something so simple as this update gizmo to work correctly? This isn't rocket science. There are *easy* ways to check to see that a download is complete before proceeding! yes there are, and I suspect this

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 5:52 AM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:52 PM, nestamicky wrote: I would think, being completely drunk, that a 1.58 ghz machine would beat a P3 machine. Adobe put a lot of work into making Flash look great under Windoze. I think they've barely given it a

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Al Poulin
On Jun 16, 2:41 am, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone has the opportunity to write to him directly to find out. You needn't ask permission. I did, and he answered me. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 9:24 PM -0600 6/15/2009, nestamicky wrote: G4 Titanium 400Mhz Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Flash sucks, and it has gotten worse this past year. Ditto for the more advanced codecs in QuickTime. Now,

Re: New Java Update/Software Update Glitch

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 11:26 AM -0700 6/16/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Dan wrote: What is with Apple? Why can't they get something so simple as this update gizmo to work correctly? This isn't rocket science. There are *easy* ways to check to see that a download is complete

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Stephen Weber
Dan H.264 I believe is the codec that Youtube uses for storing the files on the server, not what plug in it's using to play the files on the web browser. Stephen Weber On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:24 PM -0600 6/15/2009, nestamicky wrote: G4 Titanium

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread John Musbach
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Al Poulinalfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: I did, and he answered me. ... What'd he say? -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 16, 2009, at 2:59 PM, John Musbach wrote: ... What'd he say? The official word from Dan Knight, the list owner is: We've decided to end our policy of asking that list members not top post their replies. That's the default behavior of most email clients, and just reminding

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Peter
On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 2:59 PM, John Musbach wrote: ... What'd he say? The official word from Dan Knight, the list owner is: We've decided to end our policy of asking that list members not top post their replies. That's

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Dan wrote: Monolingual does NOT remove powerpc model-specific code (the subject of this thread). Monolingual DOES remove PPC model-specific code. There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. I just removed EVERYTHING except G3 from my 500MHz

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:44 PM, nestamickynestami...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too.  You  need a computer with a processor better than a  G3 or a early G4.  It's because flash is a CPU hog. Well that's fine, but my Pismo 400

Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread Mike Baker
I replaced my 400 Mhz processor on my G4 Sawtooth with a 1.5 Ghz Mercury CPU with 3 MB Level 3 cache, and it has made a great deal of difference. Even with the standard ATI Rage 128 16 MB AGP video card. I also increased the RAM from 896 MB to 2 GB. I would like to get a PCI card based

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Peterpeter1...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 2:59 PM, John Musbach wrote: ... What'd he say? The official word from Dan Knight, the list owner is: We've decided to end our

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread joan
Am I able to download the opitmized build if I have a 867 dual G4 PowerPC? I don't know what the 7400 or 7450 is referring to. On Jun 15, 2:04 pm, joan jn...@q.com wrote: a link or just what is RPMs page? On Jun 15, 1:32 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Optimized

sl-o-o-o-w browser

2009-06-16 Thread Joan Duncan
Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing my browser to operate extremely slowly? I have checked with Qwest and done speed test showing that I am receiving 3mb at my Modem. My Ping test shows no packet loss but 96 ms rather than below 50. I have installed the optimized

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Al Poulin
On Jun 16, 2:59 pm, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Al Poulinalfred.pou...@gmail.com wrote: I did, and he answered me. ... What'd he say? Below is what Dan said. And his Rules of List Management page carries today's date. Al Poulin

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:56 PM, joan wrote: Am I able to download the opitmized build if I have a 867 dual G4 PowerPC? I don't know what the 7400 or 7450 is referring to. It's two different types of G4 CPU. The early G4 were 7400, later were 7450. Your 867 dual is 7450.

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Al Poulin
On Jun 16, 4:39 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Or , is it possible that in seeking help you might want your case presented in a sequential, easy to follow format that bring little impairment to communication?  The less time it takes to parse a plea or even a help

Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Esther Blodgett
Please take me off this list. you are filling up my email.  Esther B. Blodgett JEM Accounting Services www.estherblodgett.com i...@estherblodgett.com 508-625-2217 From: Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Removing Classic and freeing up space on friends G4

2009-06-16 Thread Marty Levine
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: To free up space, what is the best way to remove Classic and all the classic applications. Dump the classic system folder, the apps and the like, but don't expect a vast amount of space. How do I dump the

[Note from another list nanny] Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Fabian Fang
On Jun 16, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Esther Blodgett wrote: Please take me off this list. you are filling up my email. On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Dan Knight wrote: As I posted to every list on Feb. 15, 2008: After discussion with the other list managers, we've decided to end our policy of

Re: [Note from another list nanny] Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Fabian Fangf...@mac.com wrote: All of us have always been free to respond or not to others' messages, free to archive or delete others' messages, free to like or dislike other members, free to suck up or not to the few hotshots, and free to hate or love list

[Note from another list nanny] Re: A polite netiquette back and forth

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 4:08 PM -0700 6/16/2009, Fabian Fang wrote: As quoted above, once again, the List Owner declared sixteen months ago that top post vs bottom post was no longer an issue for any LEM List, and Nannies were not to hassle members any more. So why are we posting about one hundred messages in

Re: sl-o-o-o-w browser

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 3:09 PM -0600 6/16/2009, Joan Duncan wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing my browser to operate extremely slowly? Please provide some details about your system. I have checked with Qwest and done speed test showing that I am receiving 3mb at my Modem. My Ping

Re: sl-o-o-o-w browser

2009-06-16 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:09 PM -0600 6/16/2009, Joan Duncan wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for what might be causing my browser to operate extremely slowly? Please provide some details about your system. I have checked with Qwest and done speed test

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-16 Thread Mullin9
On Jun 15, 4:55 pm, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just wanna run lepord properly. I am on tiger You cannot put an Intel processor in your G4, for a lot of

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Dan
At 2:40 PM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Dan wrote: Monolingual does NOT remove powerpc model-specific code (the subject of this thread). Monolingual DOES remove PPC model-specific code. There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. Ok.

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 16, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Mullin9 wrote: I could'nt interchange the CPU, but I can replace the LoBo, CPU, RAM,and Powersupply together. Well, yes, I suppose you could transplant an entirely new computer into the case, but that really falls into the category of case modding, rather

Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4

2009-06-16 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Dan wrote: There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. Ok. I sit corrected. :) You could have, and have, correct me many times :) I meant: PPC, G3, G4, G5, and Intel, not two G4's. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

G4 Triple boot question

2009-06-16 Thread Paul Kemner
I recently got a G4 Dual 1.42, with Tiger on the 80g drive.I'd like to install Yellow Dog Linux, and possibly Leopard on a 2nd 80g drive, so I'd be setting up 2 or possibly 3 partitions on this 2nd drive. Any thoughts on which OS to install first, and which should be in the first partition on the

Re: The powerpc now and in the future....

2009-06-16 Thread tortoise
On Jun 12, 9:53 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: PCI slot based accelerators have a bottleneck built right in. Hardly worth the effort IMO. mmm but g5 has pci-X, right, and that does not have bottleneck ? anyway this should be some thing more like another computer

Re: Can I put an intel duo core processor in my g4?

2009-06-16 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: On Jun 15, 4:55 pm, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:06 PM, matt.strim...@gmail.com wrote: And if not maybe tell me what kind of up grades I need? I mean I just wanna run lepord properly.

Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video

2009-06-16 Thread MaGioZal
On 6/16/09 1:28 AM, Po-en Tsai at poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: Or, like me, I would switch onto my Panther 10.3 partition, running Firefox 2.04 to watch anything Flash based. It seems to work for me, and Youtube works fine like that. Upgrading ram may help, with my iMac, I had 512mb ram, but