On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
All the stuff they are doing now will be the same. There will be some
transitioning just like from OS9 to OSX. Everyone calm down. I have inside
info on this but I have also signed an NDA so I can not share.
On 6/10/09 12:55 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
All the stuff they are doing now will be the same. There will be some
transitioning just like from OS9 to OSX. Everyone
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On 6/10/09 12:55 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
All the stuff they are doing now will be the
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
That's right Apple, embrace Windows users and
alienate Mac true believers. Great business plan.
Actually, since Apple's consistently profitable and is outperforming
all the rest of the major PC manufacturers in this economy, I'd
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:43 AM, technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote:
On 6/10/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
...I question alienating users during hard times as a wise business
strategy. The Mac Intel newbies won't notice when the loyalists abandon
ship. Their heads will be buried in
On 6/8/09 10:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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HMMM, sounds like a case for agent x86 and his friend Psystar.
You can build a hackintosh for about $300 if you google around...I am not at
all condoning that but...
Kyle Hansen
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote:
On 6/8/09 10:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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HMMM, sounds like a case for agent x86 and his friend Psystar.
You can build a hackintosh for about $300 if you google
On 6/9/09 12:01 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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Heavens no !
I am looking at one right now...uh oh...no, no I am not. I have a ³test²
computer that I fiddle with that I am looking at
Kyle Hansen
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Also,
I might point out the MacBooks are now only polycarbonate white plastic.
The Aluminium Macbook is now the MacBook Pro with added Firewire and
SD Card slot (all Macbook Pros have that now.) So there is now 13, 15
and 17 inch MBP's!
This is probably the best WWDC there has been.
Po-en
I think in the comment about Microsoft, he used sarcasm ...
I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware.
You mean, like Vista and the new formats in Office? Please.
Alex
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Most of that glitter is put there to enhance security. If you turn
it off you may as well be running XP.
On Jun 8, 2:31 pm, Stephen Weber maryland...@gmail.com wrote:
If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work place environment would
have been done any way) it should run pretty good.
Charles,
I think when Stephen said glitter he was referring to processor-
hogging visual effects, not the security stuff.
Isaac
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Charles Lee wrote:
Most of that glitter is put there to enhance security. If you turn
it off you may as well be running XP.
On Jun
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you
wonder why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does
stuff like this. I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep
supporting older hardware.
That is not at all true. I work for a couple of LARGE (300+)
At 3:19 PM -0400 6/8/2009, John Musbach wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. I
mean look at
At 2:43 PM -0400 6/8/2009, Alexander MacLeod wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this.
Exactly.
And how
Yes Isaac that is what I've meant. I've noticed that most businesses use
the Windows Classic theme. Which is basically the theme from Windows
2000.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Isaac Smith smith...@sprynet.com wrote:
Charles,
I think when Stephen said glitter he was referring to
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From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: It is official, we are orphans.
At 3:19 PM -0400 6/8/2009, John Musbach wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com
wrote:
Apple does really know
I can't answer that quite directly, some I've come into contact do and some
don't. However Vista is shit,I'll agree with that directly
Iain Thornton
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Vista is crap... Is it just me or does your vista machine
take forever
to
Just feel lucky you still have a peak season!
regards
Iain Thornton
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com wrote:
I'm gonna have my hands full this fall
(unfortunately 10.6 will come out right at the beginning of
our peak season too)
At 10:51 AM -0500 6/9/2009, Lana wrote:
I hate to stir up a tempest but another way Apple upsets people is
price control and high prices.
On a feature by feature basis, Apple's systems are very well priced.
But there is still a massive gap in the product line - the Mini is a
waste and there's
On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
HMMM, sounds like a case for agent x86 and his friend Psystar.
No need to waste your money on OSx86 wanna-bes, such as Psystar.
Check-out the self-managed group mentioned below for both performance
and economy OSx86 solutions
Kyle Hansen wrote:
On 6/9/09 12:01 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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Heavens no !
I am looking at one right now...uh oh...no, no I am not. I have a
“test” computer that I fiddle with that I am looking at
I understand that
I have seen ads for pc's that come new running leopard.
-Jonas
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:09 AM, James E.
Therraultjetas...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
Kyle Hansen wrote:
On 6/9/09 12:01 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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Heavens no !
I am
Sam Macomber wrote:
just saw the server version is intel only as well... DOHthree of
our four xserves just got obsoleted, two are G5s that handle the
majority of the work one handles mail and web the other handles file
sharing. the 3rd is an old G4 it has 4 drive bays so that's
Well, that remains to be seen of course. very reliant on retail, so
see how the summer goes. *crosses fingers*
-sam
Just feel lucky you still have a peak season!
regards
Iain Thornton
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com wrote:
I'm gonna have my hands full this
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:27 AM, James E. Therrault wrote:
If I were the head of a sizable operation that invested in the latest
G5s I would be letting Apple know loud and clear that I am not a happy
camper.
Most corporations operate on a 3-4 year refresh cycle, particularly
for things like
At 9:43 AM -0700 6/9/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:27 AM, James E. Therrault wrote:
If I were the head of a sizable operation that invested in the latest
G5s I would be letting Apple know loud and clear that I am not a happy
camper.
Most corporations operate on a 3-4
If I were the head of a sizable operation that invested in the latest
G5s I would be letting Apple know loud and clear that I am not a happy
camper.
well we're small so complaining won't change a thing with apple.If
10.6 plays nice with 10.5 I think we'll be fine and we'll just run
On Jun 9, 7:25 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
At 2:43 PM -0400 6/8/2009, Alexander MacLeod wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
And how long did you expect them to keep supporting the PPC
architecture, forever?
yes. Or at least until
At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/2009, Josh Keady wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:25 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
OS X is NOT intel only. It builds nicely for a number of architectures.
It builds nicely, the core, but it's not as simple as just clicking
Build and having the OS all ready to go, surely you
At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/09, Josh Keady posted:
They COULD move a few Snow Leopard items to PPC
They will, they being the active community of hackers that got OS X
to load on Windows, and they being the active community of hackers
that got Tiger and Leopard to run on earlier Mac architectures
The entire full OS still has to be _maintained_, by a team of
people, who have to work with the Intel people, writing brand new code
for the PPC as the Intel version is updated. In your last message,
you said it was a simple matter of building a PPC version. I'm
saying, it's not. I'll
hum. Looks like Apple has ripped out the rest of AppleTalk from Snow Leopard?
So no more using AppleTalk printers etc...
- Dan.
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/2009, Josh Keady wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:25 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
OS X is NOT intel only. It builds nicely for a number of
architectures.
It builds nicely, the core, but it's not as simple as
I don't think that THEY will. They would have to pull off a pretty
big miracle to make Snow Leopard run on PPC. It's a fundamentally
totally different architecture and it's just not gonna happen.
Josh
On Jun 9, 1:41 pm, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote:
At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/09,
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
Does Apple really expect them to now put their asses on the line
again to
recommend buying Mac Pros after curtailing the productive life of
expensive
machinery? Hard enough to expect in good times but in a near
depression?
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:
As an ex-Apple employee and current Apple Certified Technician I
COMPLETELY
agree with the above statement.
I am a nanny here, and I am well aware that this *is* lowendmac.com,
but you
guys have this thread running well into the future
On 6/9/09 1:52 PM, Josh Keady joshke...@gmail.com Broadcast into the
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They COULD move a few Snow Leopard items to PPC, I'm sure, like
Exchange support and some UI refinements, but then they have to fork
the whole distribution because they can't integrate core technologies
like Grand
On 6/9/09 1:56 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether:
hum. Looks like Apple has ripped out the rest of AppleTalk from Snow Leopard?
So no more using AppleTalk printers etc...
- Dan.
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On 6/9/09 2:50 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Broadcast
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I'm sorry, I must have missed the line where they said All PowerPC
systems will drop dead the moment Snow Leopard is released.
Hha hah hahah ha ha. Well said sir.
Moreover, any Art Director that
On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote:
On 6/9/09 1:56 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com Broadcast into the
ether:
hum. Looks like Apple has ripped out the rest of AppleTalk from
Snow Leopard?
So no more using AppleTalk printers etc...
- Dan.
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It's been Ron-Day-Voo and
I expect no less than progress from Apple and while admitting envy for those
who can move up to it I know that for each one of those in todays ecobomy
therre will be many more whose businesses will fall further behind because
they believed enough to invest heavily in high end G5s relatively
On 6/9/09 9:16 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
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I expect no less than progress from Apple and while admitting envy for those
who can move up to it I know that for each one of those in todays ecobomy
therre will be many more whose businesses will
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. I
mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware.
From,
Stephen
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com
I just got my low end G 5, I am NOT moving up to an intel Mac just to get
the latest and greatest. I am not.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber maryland...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs.
me either i have my mdd very happy with it sorry apple i dont want nothing to
do with x86when you stop updateing 10.5 there will allways be a ppc linux distro
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Al boone elbert...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Al boone elbert...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: It is official, we are orphans
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Al boone elbert...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Al boone elbert...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: It is official, we are orphans.
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 2:30 PM
I just got my low end G 5, I am NOT moving up to an intel Mac just
to get the latest
I love my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under Leopard 10.5.7
I will like my new Digital Audio dual 533 (entering the FedEx system,
almost) under Tiger 10.4.11
I like my Yikes! oc/d to 450 under Tiger 10.4.11
I liked my Performa
I liked my Mac Plus
What's an Intel ...
Orphans?
We're in good company
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this.
And how long did you expect them to keep supporting the PPC
On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:43 PM, insightinmind wrote:
I love my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under Leopard 10.5.7
I will like my new Digital Audio dual 533 (entering the FedEx
system, almost) under Tiger 10.4.11
I like my Yikes! oc/d to 450 under Tiger 10.4.11
I forgot:
I liked my PPC 8500s under Panther
Hi
Not sure about you lot, but most of us faced all this a while ago!
And compatibility has always been a marketing joke. Just because something is
listed as compatible, it's not necessarily useful for the job. Now it just
means that people can stop kidding I guess. Even if PPC was included,
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. I
mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware.
Stephen Weber wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder
why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff
like this. I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting
older hardware.
From,
Stephen
Oh come on - you mean just like
If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work place environment would
have been done any way) it should run pretty good. Also I'm pretty sure
Windows 7 will run great on a 2004 office basic computer. I'm running
Windows 7 RC right now and I've noticed a huge speed increment over Vista
SP1.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work place environment would
have been done any way) it should run pretty good. Also I'm pretty sure
Windows 7 will run great on a 2004 office basic computer. I'm running
You should download Monolingual, go to the Architectures tab and
remove PPC code. You can also remove languages you don't need. I did
that for my Intel-based Mac and it trimmed off over 2 GB, speeding
things up a bit.
On Jun 8, 1:43 pm, Alexander MacLeod twocor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun
At 1:53 PM -0400 6/8/09, Len Gerstel posted:
It is officially official. Snow leopard is Intel only
WAAHHH, I want it to run on my Plus.
W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple!
Get over it!
Steve R
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LMAO!
Thanks for the laugh. Sarcasm usually works to cheer me up
Thanks again!
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On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you
wonder why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does
stuff like
On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Steve R wrote:
W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple!
Whaa? looks at Windows 7 Fusion VM to make sure it's not a
hallucination I can do that!
And when Windows 7 comes out officially Apple will update their boot
camp install so that
Alexander MacLeod wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why
real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this.
And how long did you expect them to
On Jun 8, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Jun 8, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Steve R wrote:
W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple!
Whaa? looks at Windows 7 Fusion VM to make sure it's not a
hallucination I can do that!
I think it was sarcasm ... and OS 7 ...
Um, I think by System 7, he was referring to the REAL System 7...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_System_7
And as for the whole compatibility thing, Apple announced Intel-only
way back when they announced Snow Leopard. It's not a surprise. I
actually just finally upgraded my MDD dual 867
On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote:
And when Windows 7 comes out officially Apple will update their boot
camp install so that you can indeed run Windows 7 on it . I know more
than one person who bought a Mac pro *because* it's such a stable,
good-performing Windows workstation.
On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:55 PM, insightinmind wrote:
Sounds like someone had their oatmeal cookies today ...
(I'll stop after this one ... I think)
I did, as a matter of fact...made a batch of oatmeal+raisin+chocolate
chip+pecans yesterday. Yummy!
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On the laptop that I had Vista on it took only around 10 seconds to shutdown
from the time I pressed the shutdown button.
Stephen
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Stephen Webermaryland...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you turn
At 3:30 PM -0700 6/8/09, Bruce Johnson posted:
On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:55 PM, insightinmind wrote:
Sounds like someone had their oatmeal cookies today ...
(I'll stop after this one ... I think)
I did, as a matter of fact...made a batch of oatmeal+raisin+chocolate
chip+pecans
On 6/8/09, Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com wrote:
On a side note, what cat will be after Snow Leopard and what happens once
Apple starts using Lion do they turn towards canines? Oooh look the new OS
XI Jack Russell or Rotweiler or Huskey. Just a thought.
Believe me, the cat family is huge
W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple!
Sure you can -- try Basilisk...
V Mabus
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On 6/8/09 9:45 PM, Vic at vma...@gmail.com wrote:
W! I can't run System 7 on my Intel iMac! Damn Apple!
Sure you can -- try Basilisk...
Well, I've just got the brand-new Safari 4 running on my old Beige G3 Mac.
I felt a little less orphan...;-D
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On 6/8/09 11:17 AM, Stephen Weber maryland...@gmail.com Broadcast into
the ether:
Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why real
businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. I mean
look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote:
It is officially official. Snow leopard is Intel only
WAAHHH, I want it to run on my Plus.
Sorry about that.
Hopefully they will keep updates coming for us (10.4 and 5) for a
little while.
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