I realize this is old news but I recently saw a 1947 Cadillac with
the exhaust manifolds exiting from the vee block over the intake
manifolds and down over the rear of the engine. Thought I knew
engines but I guess I have much more to learn!!
On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:05 PM, Wallace Adrian
On 15/3/09 21:13, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote:
I have the aforementioned heat sink and CPU apart. What would be a
good thermal compound to reassemble the beast?
I do have a dab of Arctic Silver from a former project. Think this
would be okee dokee?
The chip doesn't seem to
On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:17 AM, John Callahan wrote:
At last, a voice of reason and acuity in this exercise in tedium.
Also I take issue with this statement the exhaust manifold comes off
the sides of the engine, not down the middle... Never saw an engine
(V8) with the exhaust down the
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Bruce Johnson
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:
On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:17 AM, John Callahan wrote:
At last, a voice of reason and acuity in this exercise in tedium.
Also I take issue with this statement the exhaust manifold comes off
the sides of
At last, a voice of reason and acuity in this exercise in tedium.
Also I take issue with this statement the exhaust manifold comes off
the sides of the engine, not down the middle... Never saw an engine
(V8) with the exhaust down the middle.
Mis-statement on my part:
The intake manifold
Hi Peter...
On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:42 PM, PeterH wrote:
With over-application of Arctic Silver, for example, to a G4, there
are power decoupling lines on the surface of the chip which can be
shorted-out by such oozing.
The washer which Apple generally applies to its processors can
limit
On 15/3/09 09:21, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote:
I have a CPU (Intel type) with a large heat sink that is firmly stuck
to the processor.
Any thought on getting the two separated. They should come apart
somehow... the CPU is a ZIF and you can't get it back into the socket
because
On Mar 14, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
CPUs and heat sinks never move, they simply need a thermally
conductive join.
And yeah, that '34 would be worth a whole boatload of money
today...:-)
--
Bruce Johnson
U of Az College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group
Hey John...
On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:17 AM, John Callahan wrote:
At last, a voice of reason and acuity in this exercise in tedium.
Also I take issue with this statement the exhaust manifold comes off
the sides of the engine, not down the middle... Never saw an engine
(V8) with the exhaust down
PETE!!!
On Mar 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, pdimage wrote:
On 15/3/09 09:21, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote:
I have a CPU (Intel type) with a large heat sink that is firmly stuck
to the processor.
Any thought on getting the two separated. They should come apart
somehow... the CPU is
Back on topic... I promise!!!
On Mar 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, pdimage wrote:
On 15/3/09 09:21, Amanda Ward amanda.w...@comcast.net wrote:
I have a CPU (Intel type) with a large heat sink that is firmly stuck
to the processor.
Any thought on getting the two separated. They should come apart
On 14/3/09 02:32, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:
Overclockers who are set on defeating heat to preserve costly CPUs
yet squeeze
extreme clock counts out of them have been known to polish the CPU and
heatsink with ever finer grades of wet or dry paper starting with
On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote:
It could be argued and possibly answered by experiment that there
could be a surface condition in the range between a very rough
finish and a finish that imposes a Casimir force that would give
the minimum thermal resistance at a
On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:25 AM, PeterH wrote:
For the LGA 775 products from Intel, which present a very large
surface area to the cooler, the most popular method of extreme
cooling is lapping the processor and the cooler to flatness,
followed by application of the best available heat
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:43 AM, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote:
On 14/3/09 02:32, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
wrote:
Overclockers who are set on defeating heat to preserve costly CPUs yet
squeeze
extreme clock counts out of them have been known to polish the
Ernest L. Gunerius wrote:
On 14/3/09 02:32, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com
wrote:
Overclockers who are set on defeating heat to preserve costly CPUs
yet squeeze
extreme clock counts out of them have been known to polish the CPU and
heatsink with ever finer grades of
On Mar 14, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Mar 12, 2009, at 6:46 PM, PeterH wrote:
Silicone thermal grease needs no special preparation.
Arctic Silver must be applied according to instructions, as this
stuff is conductive, and it can short-out a processor, if improperly
On 14/3/09 16:28, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
Is this true?
I'd think there's a chance the the word conductive is being
misinterpreted?
It seems to me that thermal paste is likely to be thermodynamically
conductive and not likely to be electrically conductive?
Yes this is
On 14/3/09 14:50, PAR prieme...@msn.com wrote:
still don't have a good feel for an answer. For example, arctic
silver (and comparable products) say they are thermal conductors and
not electrical conductors, yet the fine print says it may end up
shorting out circuits -- in plain English,
PAR wrote:
still don't have a good feel for an answer. For example, arctic
silver (and comparable products) say they are thermal conductors and
not electrical conductors, yet the fine print says it may end up
shorting out circuits -- in plain English, that means it is an
electrical
insightinmind wrote:
On Mar 14, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
On Mar 12, 2009, at 6:46 PM, PeterH wrote:
Silicone thermal grease needs no special preparation.
Arctic Silver must be applied according to instructions, as this
stuff is conductive, and it can short-out a
On Mar 14, 2009, at 1:43 AM, pdimage wrote:
On 14/3/09 02:32, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:
Overclockers who are set on defeating heat to preserve costly CPUs
yet squeeze
extreme clock counts out of them have been known to polish the CPU
and
heatsink with
Ya, I can tell you from experience that it IS electrically conductive.
Got a blob where I shouldn't have on a motherboard once upon a time,
luckily I got it cleaned off after it wouldn't run.
...
Arctic Silver has metal particles in the gel - I'm not sure if it is
aluminum or real silver.
On Mar 14, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
PAR wrote:
still don't have a good feel for an answer. For example, arctic
silver (and comparable products) say they are thermal conductors and
not electrical conductors, yet the fine print says it may end up
shorting out circuits -- in
On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Charles Davis wrote:
The 'Electrically conductive' being a problem is NOT between the
processor heat sink, it's the problem caused by 'excess conductive
paste' oozing onto circuit traces adjacent to the processor, and
shorting various signals and/or power
PeterH wrote:
On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Charles Davis wrote:
The 'Electrically conductive' being a problem is NOT between the
processor heat sink, it's the problem caused by 'excess conductive
paste' oozing onto circuit traces adjacent to the processor, and
shorting various signals
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
On Mar 14, 2009, at 1:43 AM, pdimage wrote:
On 14/3/09 02:32, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:
Overclockers who are set on defeating heat to preserve costly CPUs
yet squeeze
The Over Clockers are the modern equivalent of the old Shade Tree
Mechanics squeezing the last possible Horsepower/Torque out of a Flat
Head Ford engine; as they work within their version of the Triple
Constraint.
If it works for them, Hurrah,
ErnieG
Heh... You
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:25 PM, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
For conductive heat transfer as in this case you ideally want perfectly
flat surfaces. They wouldn't need any heat transfer compound between
them as there would be no gap. But ideal and perfect are on back order
so you
So, let me get this straight (forgive my ignorance. I'm used to the
plug-n-play of the beige processor upgrades that had their own built-
in heatsinks). If I decide to upgrade the processor in my Quicksilver
to a later quicksilver processor (for example, putting a used gual
1GHz in a QS933
mythmaker18 wrote:
So, let me get this straight (forgive my ignorance. I'm used to the
plug-n-play of the beige processor upgrades that had their own built-
in heatsinks). If I decide to upgrade the processor in my Quicksilver
to a later quicksilver processor (for example, putting a used
I'm not a big fan of the sticky black goop Apple uses for thermal
compound. When I swap processors, which is pretty frequent, I always
replace it with a better compound. First I remove the black stuff with
a plastic (not metal- don't scratch the heatsink or CPU) scraper,
scrub it off with acetone
On Mar 13, 2009, at 9:40 AM, nestamicky wrote:
mythmaker18 wrote:
So, let me get this straight (forgive my ignorance. I'm used to the
plug-n-play of the beige processor upgrades that had their own
built-
in heatsinks). If I decide to upgrade the processor in my Quicksilver
to a later
On Mar 13, 2009, at 6:54 AM, insightinmind wrote:
I have a Dual 1GHz QS 2002 ... seems to be working fine ... just
concerned about age.
Would it be advisable to go on and remove the heatsink(s), clean
the surfaces, and re-apply thermal grease? Sort of preventive
maintenance?
In
Isn't heat transfer the issue here???
On Mar 13, 2009, at 2:11 AM, Clark Martin wrote:
PeterH wrote:
On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:14 PM, technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote:
Don't put ANY grease near your processor!
A grease is simply solids within an oily carrier.
Electronics grade silicone
technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote:
On 3/12/09, Clark Martin wrote:
If the Heatsink / Processor combo is supposed to use grease then
conductivity isn't an issue, you assume the CPU and heatsink will
connect electrically. If you don't want them to connect electrically
you use an
On 13/3/09 13:54, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote:
In a similar vein ...
I have a Dual 1GHz QS 2002 ... seems to be working fine ... just concerned
about age.
Would it be advisable to go on and remove the heatsink(s), clean the surfaces,
and re-apply thermal grease? Sort of
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:49 AM, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the sticky black goop Apple uses for thermal
compound. When I swap processors, which is pretty frequent, I always
replace it with a better compound. First I remove the black stuff with
a plastic (not metal-
On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:48 PM, PAR wrote:
I just received a 450 Mhz dual processor to replace the single 400 Mhz
processor in my G4 gigabit machine. I assume I must get a tube of
thermal grease to put a drop on top of each processor before i put the
new processor unit and heatsink in my G4?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM, PAR prieme...@msn.com wrote:
I just received a 450 Mhz dual processor to replace the single 400 Mhz
processor in my G4 gigabit machine. I assume I must get a tube of
thermal grease to put a drop on top of each processor before i put the
new processor unit and
You might want to read some documentation on the CPU, there might be
something in there about thermal grease. I know the processor upgrade that
I got for my BW said not to use any thermal grease because it already had
something on it.
If you do decide to put on some thermal grease remember to
On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Stephen Weber wrote:
You might want to read some documentation on the CPU, there might
be something in there about thermal grease. I know the processor
upgrade that I got for my BW said not to use any thermal grease
because it already had something on it.
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