Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-15 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:53 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/23/10 10:41 AM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: My experience is different, since all the Macs I have make a lot of noise. The most silent Power Mac I own is the G5 Late 2005 which has liquid cooling (even though it is

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-15 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:38 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/24/10 1:55 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Not crazy about the iMac G4 design (too many with limp necks). But I really like the rest of the iMac designs over the years. Very cool. sigh. Now if only they were easier to repair. Good

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-15 Thread Samuel Macomber
$ problems seems to be the underlying reason in the majority of statements in this thread. Otherwise I suspect most of us would buy new Macs and not regret the move. well, unexpected tax return this year (loss of income took me down a tax bracket) equals a brand new mac mini on my desk.

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-15 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Montag 15 Februar 2010N From:MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On 1/21/10 6:51 PM, Jonas Ulrich at jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Yes

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-15 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Montag 15 Februar 2010N From:MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com YouTube videos here are COMPLETELY out of sync, even when they'e completely

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-15 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/14/10 9:38 PM, MaGioZal wrote: Apple is somehow schizo in its CPU designs: or it made them VERY EASY to open and upgrade (Centris 660/PowerMac 6100, LC I/II/III/Performa 475, PowerMac 8600/PowerMac Beige G3, Mac G4 Cube, Blue and White G3 and all other minitower CPUs before the G5) or

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/21/10 6:51 PM, Jonas Ulrich at jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. But on the other side Tiger is still quite usable. It is my everyday OS here, runnning on a non-upgraded Beige G3. By now, the only major softwares that

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/21/10 7:12 PM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: But then... I love the Power Mac/Mac Pro aluminium case. It is beautiful but still functional and an do-it-yourself-hardware-upgraders' dream... And you can left one of the sides visible from the inside...;-) --

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread Ashgrove
Why? 'Cause they rock. 'Nuff said. Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/22/10 7:41 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: All my Macs, that run System 7, Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9, Panther, and Tiger, are still running. They didn't suddenly gak the other day. The only BIG problem for these older OSes is web surfing. :-/ -- MaGioZal.

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/22/10 7:41 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At home, I think it's pretty stupid to dedicate a $1000+ computer to play streaming radio and drive a scanner. But for YouTube videos, it is very hard to handle them in older computers. :-/ -- MaGioZal.

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/23/10 10:41 AM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: My experience is different, since all the Macs I have make a lot of noise. The most silent Power Mac I own is the G5 Late 2005 which has liquid cooling (even though it is the 2.0 GHz single processor (Dual Core) model --

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/23/10 11:37 AM, Lawrence David Eden at lde...@comcast.net wrote: I watch videos on the internet...voice and video are a little out of sync. YouTube videos here are COMPLETELY out of sync, even when they'e completely downloaded. :-/ -- MaGioZal. http://formspring.me/magiozal/ --

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/23/10 2:38 PM, Da'Birdman at sa...@defalcos.com wrote: I find Tiger performs noticeably faster than Panther. Believe me, sometimes I feel Tiger as quick (or as slow...:-P) as Jaguar on my Beige G3. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/23/10 3:36 PM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: GIMP is nice. I prefer GraphicConverter 5.9.5 on the Smurf. I'll check it out. But I'm guessing that GraphicConverter isn't free... ...but is completely usable in its shareware version. Well, you'll get a annoying hang-on

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread Michael G.M.
My G4 (DA) 800 plays iTunes movies well and plays non-HD youtube videos fine. The TV seems like a good choice for iTunes too and maybe beyond.(I think you can get youtube vids to play on it or at least export them with QT Pro) It's only $230! Less if you get one refurbished! I'm probably going to

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread Daniel Stewart
I use a Power Mac G4 because I can afford it, it is very attractive and it is very stable. In fact a friend of mine who works with them in a professional capacity at a print shop and she said in their experience in the art room their old G4 Power Macs are more consistently reliable then their

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/25/10 7:05 PM, coolr...@comcast.net at coolr...@comcast.net wrote: I know someday I'll have to upgrade to Intel just as I had to upgrade from OS9 a few years ago but for now everything is working. As Bruce quoted the old axiom, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Another thing to consider

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/30/10 1:04 PM, JoeTaxpayer at joetaxpaye...@gmail.com wrote: The G4 is friendly to upgrades. Maxed out the memory to 2GB. For $10 added a USB 2.0 card. Easy to add Hard Drives as I catch them getting cheaper and cheaper. That' what a like in minitower CPUs. Think about the fact that a

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-14 Thread MaGioZal
On 1/30/10 1:31 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: $ problems seems to be the underlying reason in the majority of statements in this thread. Otherwise I suspect most of us would buy new Macs and not regret the move. My intention is to buy a brand-new Intel

Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-02-12 Thread MaGioZal
= So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users? Because I would like to buy a brnd-new Intel Mac, but I still have to get the money to do that. And because with my Tiger-running Beige G3 I can most of the applications made for Mac OS X and Mac OS

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-30 Thread Ed Grey
I use an older Mac because: 1) I'm not a gamer 2) I'm not editing video 3) It still does what I want it to do with little trouble 4) There are inexpensive ways to improve its performance if needed 5) I'm not: a trust fund baby, otherwise wealthy, or someone who prefers having the coolest Mac to

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-30 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Good timing for this question. Forgive my long-winded answer. I bought a G4 1.25GHz MDD new, over 7 years ago. 2 years ago, my family insisted on a family room computer, and wanted a PC. $600, Vista #fail. 'nuff said. I found my workhorse G4 on ebay for sub $200, and bought it for the family

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-30 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
$ problems seems to be the underlying reason in the majority of statements in this thread. Otherwise I suspect most of us would buy new Macs and not regret the move. But Bang for Buck is a big advantage of the Gs. No doubt about that. But lets get to the real crux of the matter. What other

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-30 Thread Paul Stamsen
Because: They're fun, useful, experienced, trustworthy, paid for and functional. and my wife has the new one. Paul -- When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh at him. -- Thomas Szasz -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-28 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Are there any free Mac games out there that will play nicely on my G3 BW? I'm running Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger if that matters. Glider Pro:

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Sonntag 24 Januar 2010N From:Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Glider Pro: http://homepage.mac.com/calhoun/Glider%20PRO.html A very

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Sonntag 24 Januar 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I don't game much. But in the past, I've enjoyed the ones from Ambrosia. Maelstrom, Chiral

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Samstag 23 Januar 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com At 9:46 PM +0100 1/23/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: where do I find the system logs

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Samstag 23 Januar 2010N From:Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:59 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread littlefeet
I'll tell you why I use a G4 AGP graphics with a 450 processor. Because I refuse to collude with the destruction of our planet by dumping a working machine and buying a less reliable replacement I don;t really need. I also refuse to surrender to Apple's pressure to constantly update hardware and

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Samstag 23 Januar 2010N From:Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:59 AM

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread Kelly Harding
I still use my G4 iBook (1.42Ghz, 1.5Gb RAM, 250Gb hdd) for day to day usage, email, documents. It can struggle with flash (as others have noted here), but it just about copes with my needs, with a few occurances of twiddling my thumbs (it runs Leopard), but as I can't afford to replace it at

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: GIMP does it for me right now, but if I should have to work more with pictures than I do now (very very seldom!) I will take Photoshop Elements 2.0 into consideration. Thanks for the hint. Try Seashore. Gimp with a native OS X

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-27 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: GIMP does it for me right now, but if I should have to work more with pictures than I do now (very very seldom!) I will take Photoshop Elements 2.0 into consideration. Thanks for the

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-26 Thread coolrays
It's a iMac G5. There's a hack to allow the video port to support extended desktop mode and not just be mirrored. The hack works with Leopard, Tiger and Classic. It can be found here: http://rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html Rick On Jan 25, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Kasey Smith wrote:

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-26 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:26 AM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: It's a iMac G5. There's a hack to allow the video port to support extended desktop mode and not just be mirrored. The hack works with Leopard, Tiger and Classic. It can be found here: http://rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-26 Thread PM7500
I'm not buying any Mac with Intel GMA video, which is pretty much all I can afford at this time. Besides, the G4's and G5's running Tiger and Leopard are still doing what I need them to do. When they stop being able to do what I need and the price of an Intel Mac with decent options and no major

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-26 Thread Chance Reecher
Glad G4s are still cutting it for you. They don't for me anymore. Between today's internet (flash), multitasking, gaming, and video/graphics work, I need Intel. I'm not saying that G4s aren't totally useless though. I have 2 DAs running as servers, and an MDD hooked up to a projector for watching

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-26 Thread Arnel Tuazon
On 26/01/10 7:58 PM, Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com wrote: Glad G4s are still cutting it for you. They don't for me anymore. Between today's internet (flash), multitasking, gaming, and video/graphics work, I need Intel. I'm not saying that G4s aren't totally useless though. I have 2

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-26 Thread Chance Reecher
Flash kills pretty much every G4 except the 1ghz dual processor machines. My media MDD is a dual 1GHz with maxed out RAM, and it just barely can handle Hulu, and definitely not anything HD. The faster single G4s can handle YouTube OK though, but only when it's the only thing using CPU cycles. I

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-25 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 25, 2010, at 2:05 PM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The only Mac I ever had that was cutting edge was a 512K that I bought new. I've always been behind the times but they're still powerful machines and get the job done. Heck yeah I'd like to have a new Mac but what can it do that I

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-25 Thread PM7500
I'm still using PPC Macs because the only Intel based ones I can afford are pathetic. There isn't a worthy replacement for my hi res Powerbook G4 that doesn't have major faults until you get to the nVidia 9400/9600 graphics models. I will not buy any Mac with Intel graphics or where the video chip

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-25 Thread Michael G.M.
I've found a very good discussion on Macs @ /. http://tinyurl.com/yf98yp6 Cheers, :) Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.netwrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Sonntag 24 Januar 2010N From:Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Miguel Garcia Gell maggel...@gmail.comwrote: *Every body talk about what's is inside of a PPC's family BUT!...What about OUTSIDE?...I'm a industrial designer and let me tell you... Apple's Power PC are the most beautiful, equilibrating and gorgeous design of

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Dan
At 3:16 AM -0500 1/24/2010, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: Every body talk about what's is inside of a PPC's family BUT!...What about OUTSIDE?...I'm a industrial designer and let me tell you... Apple's Power PC are the most beautiful, equilibrating and gorgeous design of this century... PLUS all

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Dan
At 8:05 AM +0100 1/24/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: What games are you playing? I don't game much. But in the past, I've enjoyed the ones from Ambrosia. Maelstrom, Chiral, Barrack, Bubble Trouble, Aki (Mah Jong), etc. Been a while since I perused their site, but as I recall they still

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:16 AM -0500 1/24/2010, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: Every body talk about what's is inside of a PPC's family BUT!...What about OUTSIDE?...I'm a industrial designer and let me tell you... Apple's Power PC are the most beautiful, equilibrating and

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:16 AM -0500 1/24/2010, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: Every body talk about what's is inside of a PPC's family BUT!...What about OUTSIDE?...I'm a industrial designer and let me tell you... Apple's Power PC are the most beautiful, equilibrating and

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 24, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Are there any free Mac games out there that will play nicely on my G3 BW? I'm running Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger if that matters. Glider Pro: http://homepage.mac.com/calhoun/Glider%20PRO.html A very very classic Mac game. -- Bruce

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Dan wrote: Not crazy about the iMac G4 design (too many with limp necks). But I really like the rest of the iMac designs over the years. Very cool. sigh. Now if only they were easier to repair. Good industrial design should, IMO, include easy-open / access

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Gorka Martinez Mezo
Every BW G3 and G4 was a breeze to work on, except for the nasty sharp bits pulling the optical drive cable and after a while you develop sufficient scar tissue across your knuckles that you don't notice. Having work in both the beige G3 desktop and G4 GE, as well as inside many

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-24 Thread Michael G.M.
Ah, the iMac. I remember the time I was disassembling one, and upon struggling to pull the belly plate off (It must have been jammed) It popped off and I punched myself in the nose! I was in pain for a month or more. I've been wondering what will be the next 'Pro' case too. It is getting quite

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com At 9:08 PM +0100 1/21/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: I've just made an old G3 BW working

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Geke
One more angle: I like to type stuff in silence. Now where do you find a silent computer these days, and a notebook at that? My 15-y old Powerbook 1400 (with G3 processor upgrade) has a 1GB compact flash card for a hard drive, and it doesn’t have a fan. It runs on Mac OS 8.6, just enough for

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jan 23, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. I've seen information about

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Samstag 23 Januar 2010N From:Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com One more angle: I like to type stuff in silence. Now where do you find

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com OpenSSL CVE-ID: CVE-2009-3555 Available for: Mac OS X v10.5.8, Mac OS X Server v10.5.8, Mac

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Lawrence David Eden
For me, the answer is simple: My G4 PPC works perfectly and runs the software that I need at an acceptable speed. An added advantage is that my G4 can still boot into OS 9 when needed and I can connect my old SCSI hard drives easily too. I have several friends that insist on buying the

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Dan
At 2:45 PM -0800 1/22/2010, John Niven wrote: Like all good rumor there is truth in some of this. Semiconductor line widths have become so small that the operating voltage has had to be reduced constantly to combat leakage and NBTI effects. Having a overvoltage condition is VERY hazardous to

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread John Niven
--- On Sat, 1/23/10, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 9:30 AM At 2:45 PM -0800 1/22/2010, John Niven wrote: Like all good rumor

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Da'Birdman
On Jan 22, 2:46 pm, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: --  Original message  -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:    Freitag 22 Januar 2010N From:    Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com To:      G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I've

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread mlitwin3797
, January 23, 2010 7:37 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? For me, the answer is simple: My G4 PPC works perfectly and runs the software that I need at an acceptable speed. An added advantage is that my G4 can still boot into OS 9 when

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Arnel Tuazon
It's was the same when people asked, Why don't you just throw away that IIsi? The IIsi can still run MS Word 4, boots up quicker than any PPC and Intel Mac I know of and if you can still find a use for the thing then it ain't dead. Surfing the web with it is tricky, but it was my main computer

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Samstag 23 Januar 2010N From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com At 11:59 AM +0100 1/23/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: Why? What did you do to it? My 300

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread captarne
Well I use them mostly as a hobby, I just was given a pre imac all in one G3 266 and it works great! I can put all my old OS 9 games on it Arne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?Winblowz connection

2010-01-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
Every Winter we see one or more topics like this make 100 or more posts. Luckily this one is on topic and there is no Nanny whiplash or shutdown needed. Best of all everyone is in a comfort zone. Way ta go Listers ! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Samstag 23 Januar 2010N From:kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com This questions has plainly drawn a great deal of interest and discussion

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-23 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Sonntag 24 Januar 2010N From:Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:23 PM, captarne arnechristian...@gmail.comwrote: Well I

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Dennis Myhand
Bruce Johnson wrote: WOWZA, thats a large pile o'Urban legendosity. Uhh, no. A Lack of drivers for the SMC (which is the power control system for the laptop) merely means that yoiu get the fans on, and poor battery performance. But even on that note, you're wrong, because the Asus One

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: WOWZA, thats a large pile o'Urban legendosity. Uhh, no. A Lack of drivers for the SMC (which is the power control system for the laptop) merely means that yoiu get the fans on, and poor battery performance. But even

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Ted Treen
Sorry, I came late to this thread. Original question - Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Multiple answer(s): 1) Wife won't let me buy a Mac Pro - she thinks things like housing, food etc are a priority. 2) Even if wife were in agreement with idea, bank manager wouldn't be. 3

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Norton, Robert L.
You asked: So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users? I have been using Macs since the first one came out in the early 80s, used Apple II's before that, plus DOS, Windows in all its incarnations, and mainframes (ugh) before them in the '60s and 70's. I am stuck using a PPC Mac

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Paul Kemner
On the subject of security, how likely do you think it is that someone will bother to take the time to write malware to attack G3's and G4's running Tiger? It's hard to believe that someone would pay the big bucks for a new mac laptop, wipe the HD, and install Ubuntu! Buying a new PC laptop,

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?Winblowz connection

2010-01-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Paul Kemner zkem...@gmail.com wrote: On the subject of security, how likely do you think it is that someone will bother to take the time to write malware to attack G3's and G4's running Tiger? It's hard to believe that someone would pay the big bucks for a

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread mlitwin3797
...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:34 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Andreas writes, So you will be keeping the PowerPC once you'll finally buy an oldused Intel-Mac... MAYBE SOMEDAY I MIGHT buy one of those damned Macintels, but I

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread mlitwin3797
, 2010 6:32 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: _But_ my

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread mlitwin3797
I'm not cheap. I'm retired. please let me know where I can find an Apple for almost free. -- From: Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:29 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread roger d
Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:29 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Previously, at 3:31 pm -0500 1/21/10, graphics...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Paul Twiddy
an Apple for almost free. -- From: Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:29 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Previously, at 3:31 pm -0500 1/21/10

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010N From:brettallica br...@nisene.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com What fun is life without a little novelty/frivolity? :-) I totally agree

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N From:mlitwin3797 mlitwin3...@att.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I tried all three and find my preference for Os is Apple, Windows and Linux

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Da'Birdman
On Jan 21, 2:08 pm, Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: Hello fellows of the G-Group! . . . (Why Power Macs _and_ why Mac OS X?) . . . So why bother with the G3-G5 anyhow? . . . So: why bother with Gs? . . . So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users? Cheers,

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N From:Paul Kemner zkem...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On the subject of security, how likely do you think it is that someone will bother

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Freitag 22 Januar 2010N From:Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I've seen a lot of good, well thought-out replies on this: They work well

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread John Niven
--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com wrote: Why would anyone join a group dedicated to Power PC G machines and ask why you are still using them? Ha Ha! Always trust a Texan NOT to trust anybody. I think your answer is the huge number of replies it generated. Personally I think

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Dan
At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for PowerPC-based Mac repairs, in some cases. But as for no longer supporting Tiger? Please provide specific

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Bequette Jeff
Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com Bought my last dual g5/1.8 (June 04), six years later still doing almost everything I need it to do... (Civ IV would be nice, but not nice enough to buy new.) Works very well in leopard. However, I didn't get the bluetooth option when I bought it. Does

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for PowerPC-based Mac repairs, in some cases. But as for no longer

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?Winblowz connection

2010-01-22 Thread kimtoufectis
I share many of the views expressed in this thread about using a computer that is a great value and does what we need it to do. In most cases the need is expressed in software terms, since software is generally what we are referring to when we say we use a computer. I'd like to add that my

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Dan
At 9:08 PM +0100 1/21/2010, Mac User #330250 wrote: I was just thinking about the future. ow. I've just made an old G3 BW working again (it was wasting space and picking up dust for about two years or more) and it is now in my office. I've installed Tiger and it is just okay working with

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Dan
I *AM NOT* kidding. Linux does not know how two work the CPU voltage part of the SMC chip, which makes electrons jump the electron paths in the CPU, eventually boring new paths and shorting out the CPU. Darn it. Now I gotta clean coffee out of my keyboard. This is pure, unadulterated,

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Dan
At 4:37 PM -0500 1/22/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. I've seen information about Apple no longer providing parts for PowerPC-based Mac

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread starrfarr
Ok, I'll chime in. I have Beige G3 at work running an eternal slide show on two 19 inch LCD monitors. And a 500mhz G4 for general classroom work, mostly Photoshop, on another pair of 19 inch LCDs. Both running OSX, the G4 runs Leopard. Very reliable and fast enough. At home I have a

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Dan wrote: At 4:37 PM -0500 1/22/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:51 PM -0800 1/21/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes, Apple is dropping support for PPC machines and Tiger in general. I've seen information about Apple no

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Kasey Smith
On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Paul Twiddy wrote: What kind do you want? I have some old ones in the vault. Paul Twiddy Past President of CACC Charlotte Area Computer Club ptwi...@comporium.net Serving Charlotte Since 1978 On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:55 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote: I'm not cheap.

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread John Niven
Like all good rumor there is truth in some of this. Semiconductor line widths have become so small that the operating voltage has had to be reduced constantly to combat leakage and NBTI effects. Having a overvoltage condition is VERY hazardous to a cpu's life. We in the semiconductor industry

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?Winblowz connection

2010-01-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:40 PM, kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.comwrote: I share many of the views expressed in this thread about using a computer that is a great value and does what we need it to do. In most cases the need is expressed in software terms, since software is generally what

Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?

2010-01-22 Thread Paul Twiddy
How far do you want to go? I have some 6500s down there and I might find a G-3 Beige File Server. I am also retired. Worst job I have ever had. Don't like it. Paul On Jan 22, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Paul Twiddy wrote: What kind do you want? I

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