Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread James Chapel
This is strange. The onboard should have 2MB soldered on, and the   optional chip is another 4MB, giving a total of 6MB. The fact that   yours is reporting 4MB seems strange, but perhaps this is because   you're not using the onboard video at all? AFAIK it should report 6MB.   I suppose

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:16 AM, James Chapel wrote: That's what I was asking. I've heard reports that the decoder card might not work correctly when the Rage 128 is installed in the beige's 33mhz slots (instead of the BW's 66mhz slot), but if it's working fine for you, I guess that's all the

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread James Chapel
I'm just using this as my project OS 9 box. There are too many problems with the beige's hardware in X to make the jump worth it (no internal floppy support, no wings personality card support, slow bus speed), not to mention the fact that I have stockpiles upon stockpiles of classic mac OS

SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver

2010-06-15 Thread mlsimmons
CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20 ---it says The board provides a 32bit, 33/66 MHz PCI interface on the host side, fully compliant Serial ATA ports on the device side to access Serial ATA mobile storage

Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:53 AM, mlsimm...@aol.com wrote: CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20 ---it says The board provides a 32bit, 33/66 MHz PCI interface on the host side, fully compliant Serial ATA ports on the

Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Ted Treen
Looks like new toys coming... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Ted Treen wrote: Looks like new toys coming... Yes, and 10.6.4 has been ready for a couple weeks, so it will likely coincide with the new toys' arrival? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Of course, I just got a new mini delivered yesterday. In the future you can check with MacTactic or similar Mac buyer timing guides: http://mactactic.com/ All Mac products have been pretty stale for a much longer than normal time period.

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Looks like new toys coming... 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Looks like new toys coming... A Quick Google search got this site http://www.*apple*.com/hot*new*s/ -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Looks like new toys coming... 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Ted Treen
From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010 11:56:34 Subject: Re: Apple Store closed for update On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Looks like

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Mac Pro with NVidia GTX400 series? Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: -- *From:* Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com *To:* g3-5-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, 15 June, 2010 11:56:34

Re: stream movies? no-can-do!

2010-06-15 Thread Illirik Smirnov
How about using an earlier, less resource-intensive verison of OSX? Mebbe 10.3 will be faster than 10.5. Illirik Smirnov On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun

Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver

2010-06-15 Thread Illirik Smirnov
That is *NOT* going to work. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:53 AM, mlsimm...@aol.com wrote: CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20 ---it

New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Dan
At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the why bother category. It should

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Chance Reecher
Dan wrote: I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the why bother category. It should be a fast machine, but then it's got older i/o technology, circa 2005ish, bolted on. Only one Firewire port. The 4 USB ports are probably again all the same

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that

Re: Apple Store closed for update

2010-06-15 Thread iJohn
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: In the future you can check with MacTactic or similar Mac buyer timing guides: http://mactactic.com/ It looks to me as though mactactic.com is itself in dire need of an update. It lists the MacBooks as all not having been

G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread janesprando
I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR, and the iMac is in Las Vegas, where I will be visiting. 2. The iMac does not have a DVD drive. The Tiger install disc (disk) that I own is DVD. 3. I do NOT have access to an

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:01 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR, and the iMac is in Las Vegas, where I will be visiting. 2. The iMac does not have a DVD drive. The Tiger install

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Dan
At 8:43 AM -0700 6/15/2010, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? sigh. I doubt it. I think we'll see all the ports vanish, when Light Peak comes out. Then we'll be stuck buying expensive adapters. Regretfully, at the rate Apple has been adopting interfaces, the PC world

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread John Martz
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? I tend to doubt it. My total wild-ass speculating guess is that this might be a Steve Jobs sort of thing. eSATA does not supply power to the external device and perhaps the Steve has deemed

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Dan
At 4:01 PM + 6/15/2010, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR, and the iMac is in Las Vegas, where I will be visiting. 2. The iMac does not have a DVD drive. The Tiger install disc

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:25 AM, John Martz wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Will Apple ever support eSATA? I tend to doubt it. My total wild-ass speculating guess is that this might be a Steve Jobs sort of thing. eSATA does not supply power to the

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:01 PM + 6/15/2010, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR, and the iMac is in Las Vegas, where I will be visiting. 2. The iMac does not

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread Dan
At 8:51 PM -0500 6/14/2010, James Therrault wrote: Here's the system log beginning with a couple of lines before I plugged the modem in. com.devgure... is when I plugged the modem in. It's all Greek to me... Definately a hardware issue. Looks like it's cycling - it can't get a grip on the

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread John Martz
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely a hardware issue.  Looks like it's cycling - it can't get a grip on the device. Just wild speculation ... my first thought in a situation like this is that the device is not getting enough power/current. But usually

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Yeah, I second Dan. It's hardware. Try what he said, and then try cleaning out your USB ports. Gunk can sometimes get in them and cause cycling. Use a Q-Tip. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:51 PM -0500 6/14/2010, James Therrault wrote:

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Illirik Smirnov
There are no USB or eSATA or SD or any such ports on the front because they don't look as nice. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:39 PM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:25 AM, John Martz wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, JOHN CARMONNE

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Chance Reecher
On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:01 PM + 6/15/2010, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR, and the iMac is in Las Vegas, where I will be visiting. 2. The iMac does not

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:39 AM -0400 6/15/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. Plus a little better graphics, NVidia 320m. But also a $100 price bump. I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:51 PM -0500 6/14/2010, James Therrault wrote: Here's the system log beginning with a couple of lines before I plugged the modem in. com.devgure... is when I plugged the modem in. It's all Greek to me... Definitely a hardware issue. Looks

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Martz wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely a hardware issue. Looks like it's cycling - it can't get a grip on the device. Just wild speculation ... my first thought in a situation like this is that the

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:40 AM, James Therrault wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: Yeah, I second Dan. It's hardware. Try what he said, and then try cleaning out your USB ports. Gunk can sometimes get in them and cause cycling. Use a Q-Tip. Illirik Smirnov

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. Also, special firmware can be installed, and which further

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread Jason Brown
Try creating another user account and log in under that account to rule out issues with the account that you are currently using. Also, what OS are you running? I haven't been following this that long so I am unsure if this was answered previously, however, if you are running an Intel Mac and

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. Also,

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread t...@io.com
On Jun 14, 11:38 pm, James Chapel dragnero...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but AFAIK every DVD card will be mounted in a video card already, there won't be any loose decoders floating around, and since EVERY Radeon card supports hardware DVD decoding, you're MUCH better off ditching the Rage

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:27 AM, James Therrault wrote: ...and probably a slow 5,400 rpm drive... Undoubtedly true. One way to conserve unit power is to dumb-down the HD from 7200 to 5400 rpm, and from 16 MB cache to 4 MB cache. And to

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:07 PM, James Therrault wrote: Have you tried loading this device as a different user on the computer? Not sure what you mean by different user as I'm the only one that has used this machine since purchasing it and reloading system software then (about three

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread James Chapel
It sure sounds like your module is 2 MB or has a bad RAM chip on board making it appear as 2 MB.   Try removing it and see if the system reports your 2 MB on board properly. I removed the SGRAM chip, rebooted using the on-board video and Apple System Profiler reports 2MB VRAM. I suppose it is

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: Dan wrote: I'm disappointed. IMO, this seems to be yet-another overpriced Mini that goes into the why bother category. It should be a fast machine, but then it's got older i/o technology, circa 2005ish, bolted on. Only one

MDD OS9 Issue

2010-06-15 Thread coolrays
I bought a dual 1GHZ MDD G4 without the original disks. Runs 10.4 just fine and I want to run OS9 on it but it won't boot from a 9.2.2 System Folder. I understand it has special requirements for OS9. What do I need to do if I can't get my hands on an original disk? TIA Rick -- You

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:07 PM, James Therrault wrote: Have you tried loading this device as a different user on the computer? Not sure what you mean by different user as I'm the only one that has used this machine since purchasing it

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Kevin Barth
Another possibility is what I did on my G3. If you have access tp a MacBook, put the Tiger DVD in its drive and throw it into hard drive mode. Then hook it up to Your G3 via USB. At 4:01 PM + 6/15/2010, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I

G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Matt Rhinesmith
Lime iMacs can't boot from external HDDs, as they have no FireWire and booting from USB isn't supported on G3s. Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my jailbroken iPod touch -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GU d- s: a C UL P L+++ E W++ N o K- w--- O++ M++ V- PS+ PE- Y PGP t+

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: Lime iMacs can't boot from external HDDs, as they have no FireWire and booting from USB isn't supported on G3s. There are two Lime iMacs, one without Firewire and one with Firewire (the SE (Special Edition) model). You're correct that

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:33 PM, James Chapel wrote: I suppose it is a mislabled 2MB chip, then? I never heard of a 2MB chip, they're all 4MB AFAIK? I'd say it's a bad or dirty/poorly seated 4MB most likely. Clean those contacts and the slot and try again. -- You received this message

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:33 PM, James Chapel wrote: It sure sounds like your module is 2 MB or has a bad RAM chip on board making it appear as 2 MB. Try removing it and see if the system reports your 2 MB on board properly. I removed the SGRAM chip, rebooted using the on-board video and

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I know alot of the macs don't have peripheral ports in the front, but why not hide them behind a tab or slider like the Dell optiplex series computers or the Hp a418x computer? How about Alienware towers? --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Is it any wonder that the OSx86 crowd is operating Snow machines which cost one-fourth, yet deliver four-times the performance? In the same form factor as the mini? Of course not. But who, in reality, really cares about form factor. One

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread James Chapel
Probably. You can look at the numbers on the chips themselves and go to http://www.chipmunk.nl/dram/chipmanufacturers.htm to identify what you've got. KM4132G271BQ-10 ^^-^^^- Internal Organization: 32-271 = 256K x 32 (8M bit): check module size/ banks

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Is it any wonder that the OSx86 crowd is operating Snow machines which cost one-fourth, yet deliver four-times the performance? In the same form factor as the mini? Of course not. But

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Peter Haas
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: But who, in reality, really cares about form factor. A famous quote In my MANY years as a Mac user (since at least the Apple IIcx days, with NO Gates/Windows machines, of ANY TYPE, whether a true Mac or a Mack, I have had three Mac

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:07 PM, James Therrault wrote: Have you tried loading this device as a different user on the computer? Not sure what you mean by different user as I'm the only one that has used this machine since purchasing it

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem???

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:07 PM, James Therrault wrote: Have you tried loading this device as a different user on the computer? Not sure what you mean by different user as I'm the only

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: Lime iMacs can't boot from external HDDs, as they have no FireWire and booting from USB isn't supported on G3s. Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my jailbroken iPod touch I beg ypur pardon I can boot all 4 of my iMac G3s with a 10.4 Tiger on

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread iJohn
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: Remember, Apple is a software company. The hardware is just the (officially) only way to run the software. That one mad me laugh. No, Microsoft is a software company. Apple is ... well, Apple is whatever it is they are. But

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Kevin Barth
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Matt Rhinesmith platni...@gmail.comwrote: Lime iMacs can't boot from external HDDs, as they have no FireWire Yup. That's why I specified using USB. Although as another poster noted, there are some G3s that have firewire. Mine does, for example :-) But I

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Look in the archives and check my postings. You will see that I explained that all PowerPC macs with USB can boot from USB. (except for beige systems and powerbooks before the G3 era.) I have successfully installed Mac OS X tiger on a blue (not indigo) iMac G3 @350Mhz with 512MB of RAM through my

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: You will see that I explained that all PowerPC macs with USB can boot from USB. This isn't true. None of the G4 Minis can boot from USB AFAIK. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3,

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Kevin Barth wrote: Installing Tiger isn't supported on G3s either. This is a good point. If this Lime iMac doesn't have Firewire, the CD installer set won't really help because it will have the block against installing onto non-Firewire Macs, and won't run

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: You will see that I explained that all PowerPC macs with USB can boot from USB. This isn't true. None of the G4 Minis can boot from USB AFAIK. You can boot the G4 Mini and all PPCs USB

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:22 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: You will see that I explained that all PowerPC macs with USB can boot from USB. This isn't true. None of the G4 Minis can boot from

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:22 PM, John Carmonne wrote: You can boot the G4 Mini and all PPCs USB by powering up the USB drive first also you can boot via USB stick (slow but gets the job done) I booted my iMac g3s and all G4 machines both ways to prove the point. I don't believe this is true.

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 15, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:22 PM, John Carmonne wrote: You can boot the G4 Mini and all PPCs USB by powering up the USB drive first also you can boot via USB stick (slow but gets the job done) I booted my iMac g3s and all G4 machines both ways

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
You know what? Don't explain a bunch of stuff to him that he might not want to know. It's helpful, i thank you for that, but he wants Mac OS X tiger re-installed on his system. i have a better idea. Pull out the HDD out of the lime iMac G3, put it in another iMac G3 (or how about I install tiger

RE: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver

2010-06-15 Thread Stewie de Young
That is NOT going to work. Illirik Smirnov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:53 AM, mlsimm...@aol.com wrote: CompUSA lists a Masscool XWT-RC061 3 Port SATA PCI Card - 2 internal SATA, External SATA, 1.5Gbps Support for $20

Safari 4.1

2010-06-15 Thread Stephen Conrad
Interestingyou can level up in Mafia Wars (Facebook) with no problem but if you do it in Vampire Wars (Facebook) it freezes up and you get Application Not Responding. Any reason for this? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle

Re: Safari 4.1

2010-06-15 Thread Dan
At 8:27 PM -0500 6/15/2010, Stephen Conrad wrote: Interestingyou can level up in Mafia Wars (Facebook) with no problem but if you do it in Vampire Wars (Facebook) it freezes up and you get Application Not Responding. Any reason for this? While enamored with Tony Soprano, Safari perhaps

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
On Jun 15, 9:17 am, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:01 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few   problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR, and the iMac is in Las Vegas, where I   will be

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
On Jun 15, 9:34 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 4:01 PM + 6/15/2010, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR, and the iMac is in Las Vegas, where I will be visiting. 2. The iMac

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: On Jun 15, 9:17 am, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:01 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I need to install 10.4 on a G3 Lime iMac. However, I have a few problems to overcome. 1. I live in Portland, OR,

2TB SATAs on Seritek for my Quicksilver Dual 1GHz

2010-06-15 Thread Bill Connelly
Currently have good success with a 1TB Seagate SATA and a Firmtek Seritek 1S2 SATA Controller on my Digital Audio Dual 533 OS X 10.5.8. Anyone have experience with the so-called energy efficient LP Seagate? http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST32000542AS/ Its 2TBs but shows as a 5900rpm

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread t...@io.com
James Chapel wrote: Probably. You can look at the numbers on the chips themselves and go to http://www.chipmunk.nl/dram/chipmanufacturers.htm to identify what you've got. KM4132G271BQ-10 ^^-^^^- Internal Organization: 32-271 = 256K x 32 (8M bit):

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread t...@io.com
Len Gerstel wrote: The Mini has always been a price point Mac. Yes, compromises are made to hit that point and that is the decision the end user needs to make. Yes, Apple could offer the mini with a 320GB SSD and 8GB of ram, but not at the same price. Does the Mini still have support for

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
On Jun 15, 1:38 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: Lime iMacs can't boot from external HDDs, as they have no FireWire   and booting from USB isn't supported on G3s. There are two Lime iMacs, one without Firewire and one with

Re: Beige G3 Upgrade Questions

2010-06-15 Thread James Chapel
The chips read KM4132G512Q-8. On Jun 15, 7:12 pm, t...@io.com t...@io.com wrote: James Chapel wrote: Probably. You can look at the numbers on the chips themselves and go to http://www.chipmunk.nl/dram/chipmanufacturers.htm to identify what you've got. KM4132G271BQ-10    

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Chance Reecher
t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor? If they'd add dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), I'd buy one in an instant. I don't need slots, but I want dual monitor support. Jeff Walther It's had dual monitor support for

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Jane, (Portland, OR)
On Jun 15, 4:57 pm, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: You know what?  Don't explain a bunch of stuff to him that he might not want to know. It's helpful, i thank you for that, but he wants Mac OS X tiger re-installed on his system. i have a better idea. Pull out the HDD out of the

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
Lime Green iMac Model: PowerMac 2.1 CPU Type: Power PC 750 (83.0) Processor: 400 MHz PowerPC G3 Memory: 512 MB SDRAM Hard Drive: 10 gig Ports: 2 USB Firewire 400 Ethernet So it DOES have Firewire and a Tiger CD copy would work. Jane A Tiger CD is kinda hard to find, I'd use the image

Re: New unibody Mac Mini (was Re: Apple Store closed for update)

2010-06-15 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: t...@io.com wrote: Does the Mini still have support for only one monitor? If they'd add dual monitor support (the video chip almost certainly supports it), I'd buy one in an instant. I don't need slots, but I

Re: Improper Put Away? for USB Modem??? Fixed!!!

2010-06-15 Thread James Therrault
What I ended up doing was plugging the offending modem into the G4 Gigabit where it would mount as a CD. I then created a new folder and copied the contents to it and then sent it to my drop folder in the PowerBook. (I first tried to do a disk image as suggested by Bruce but no go)

to scsi or not to scsi?

2010-06-15 Thread Jeffrey Engle
ok, new to the scsi thing as you might have guessed. it just seems to me that it's such a yesterday technology, why is it still in big demand? isn't sata better? (yes, I might just learn something here) Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those

Re: G3 Lime iMac and 10.4 instal CD

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: So it DOES have Firewire and a Tiger CD copy would work. Yes, since it has Firewire it's an SE version, and the optical drive is certainly at least a DVD ROM drive, so that means your Tiger Installer DVD should work as is for this

Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver

2010-06-15 Thread mlsimmons
thanks for all the inputs- I was primarily looking at large storage, not necessarily bootable (but something to obviously consider that I wouldn't have without these responses ). SATA appears to be the least expensive/most available hard drives On Jun 15, 4:43 pm, Stewie de Young

Re: to scsi or not to scsi?

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: ok, new to the scsi thing as you might have guessed. it just seems to me that it's such a yesterday technology, why is it still in big demand? isn't sata better? (yes, I might just learn something here) SCSI HDs are built to industrial

Re: SATA PCI card for dual 800 quicksilver

2010-06-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 16, 2010, at 12:28 AM, mlsimmons wrote: I was primarily looking at large storage, not necessarily bootable. Then go for a Silicon Image chipset card, they're reasonable on eBay or elsewhere, and have good drivers for OS X. If you need bootable, I recommend Firmtek. -- You