Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.
On 12/21/08, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:37 PM -0800 12/20/2008, Mullin9 wrote: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally. 1 way to clean up an old Mac is to recycle a CRT monitor, and buy an LCD, especially a LED backed LCD. another way to do it is to upgrade to new/newer environmentally clean Macs. This makes sense IFF the hardware has died. If the hardware is functional then adding it to the trash stream is simply NOT an environmentally friendly thing to do! I don't care if trash stream is actual trash or a recycling program -- WORKING hardware should NEVER be scrapped. As long as its kept as-is, the hazardous materials are locked in and we aren't spending the energy or resources (water etc) to process them! I have numerous older CRT monitors I have been given or have found that still work fine. I don't see tossing them until they have died. The Sony VAIO monitor (a nice Trinitron) I am using now has USB ports on it. First monitor I have owned that has them. If the CRT dies I might still keep the thing around if the USB ports still work as it would be a shame to toss them out. Ok, I can see trying to justify things because the newer hardware might use less electricity IF its power supply is lower wattage and more efficient. From the consumer point of view, the electric savings is nice. But from the environmental POV - again, that CRT didn't need to be recycled YET. True! Plus, most places I know (scrap yards) won't take the whole monitor. In my case I need to take out the CRT and the only part of it they will take is the end with all that copper. The plastic either needs to be taken to a plastic recycler or trashed (I have a local place that takes plastic). The cord (to the computer) can also be recycled but alone it ain't worth squat. I see this like this whole Compact Florescent effort that we've bought into. The mercury in them makes them one of the worst technologies we've ever used. If you break one at home, technically, you're supposed to report it to your local poison control center so they can initiate the necessary environmental cleanup! Beyond that, their light is awful, and they DONT last the n years they're supposed to. The only way CF lights are a good deal is if you're a stock holder in the companies that make them. The same as for buying new computer hardware just to replace perfectly good working hardware... - They last longer if kept on longer than the old indascents. Turning them on and off is not good for their longevity (so the experts say). Also, they have gotten better in the light quality aspect (again, this is from the experts who test these things for places like Consumer Reports). But you are right on the whole mercury thing (the companies say they are working on this) and when they do burn out you are NOT supposed to toss them in the trash (Hazardous Waste Disposal is the stream theya re supposed to go in). -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A take on Apple Inc
Previously, at 16:35 pm +1100 12/22/08, Brian Christmas wrote:
G'day listers
The following makes for an interesting read..
http://tinyurl.com/8ewukohttp://tinyurl.com/8ewuko
Reads just like the sites that advocate vegetarianism and home-brew medicines
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Re: A take on Apple Inc
Previously, at 16:35 pm +1100 12/22/08, Brian Christmas wrote:
G'day listers
The following makes for an interesting read..
http://tinyurl.com/8ewukohttp://tinyurl.com/8ewuko
Previously, at 16:35 pm +1100 12/22/08, Brian Christmas wrote:
G'day listers
The following makes for an interesting read..
http://tinyurl.com/8ewukohttp://tinyurl.com/8ewuko
Then I bashly commented:
Reads just like the sites that advocate vegetarianism and home-brew medicines
X;{
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Unless you read the whole thing!
Which I failed to do! mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!
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Re: Mac printing on a PC network
On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Dirks wrote: For printing I use a Zonet ZPS2102 print server to an old HP4 and a new HP1600. Well, I've never used a Zonet device, and google's search for that site does not bode well: Welcome to Zonet This site may harm your computer. The Zonet ZPS2102 – Multi-Port Print Server turns a Parallel or USB printers ... Zonet ZPS2102 is the ideal network printing solution for small offices, ... www.zonetusa.com/DispProduct.asp?ProductID=125 - Similar pages - I'll presume it's a false positive. But their specs: Network Protocol Support: TCP/IP, IPX, NetBEUI, AppleTalk, LPR, SMB(over IP) Means it'll work out of the box with Macs. Make sure that Appletalk is turned on on the Zonet, and on the Mac and they should find the printers without a hassle. Just start the Printer setup and they'll likely find them right away. If not fin the IP address that the Zonet has assigned the printer, and use an lpd printer setup. 10.3 included GimpPrint, and so the HP4 driver should be there, however, the 1600 driver will require using the driver here: http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/ They explicitly mention OS X on this page, so it'll work. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Trouble reading certain DVD's in SR-8585F DVD-ROM drive
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Paul wrote: What's much more painful is dealing with a similar but worse version of this problem on my Pismo. It's fussy about brands, and probably about DVD-R vs. DVD+R, and probably just plain fussy about homemade DVD's as opposed to DVD's whose data was stamped at the factory. But first, a try with the cleaner disc... The Pismo's came with LG drives that were legendary for their craptasticalness. First sign of trouble is they stop reading DVD's. There are any number of laptop mechanisms you can use to replace the drive. ONe of the LEM powerbook lists (the gbook list perhaps) just had a discussion about this with specific brand mentions. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.
At 2:19 AM -0600 12/22/2008, Stephen Conrad wrote: I see this like this whole Compact Florescent effort that we've bought into. The mercury in them makes them one of the worst technologies we've ever used. If you break one at home, technically, you're supposed to report it to your local poison control center so they can initiate the necessary environmental cleanup! Beyond that, their light is awful, and they DONT last the n years they're supposed to. The only way CF lights are a good deal is if you're a stock holder in the companies that make them. The same as for buying new computer hardware just to replace perfectly good working hardware... They last longer if kept on longer than the old indascents. Turning them on and off is not good for their longevity (so the experts say). So... 60w for 30 mins vs 23w for 6 hours? ROFLMAO. hum. Gotta think about this; wondering if the CF lights we've burned out were in places where we turn them on/off often/briefly. ug. Outside, we have 10 lights in the front - porch, yard poles, floods, etc. When we had traditional lights, we only turned on the leg by the street, 180w total. But now that we have CF everywhere, my housemates turn them ALL on every night, 340w. Those CF bulbs are the outdoor rated ones; all have been replaced at least once in the past year. Also, they have gotten better in the light quality aspect (again, this is from the experts who test these things for places like Consumer Reports). yea. I've seen that the new ones are brighter, but their light is still blueish and flickers. Just plain nasty to read by. But you are right on the whole mercury thing (the companies say they are working on this) and when they do burn out you are NOT supposed to toss them in the trash (Hazardous Waste Disposal is the stream theya re supposed to go in). Our township is now accepting them at their hazardous waste site. That means even after the darned thing has died, you still have to spend gas and time and tax money to make it go away! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.
At 12:21 PM -0500 12/22/08, Dan wrote: yea. I've seen that the new ones are brighter, but their light is still blueish and flickers. Just plain nasty to read by. I tried them years ago and swore off them. Last year I tried again and they are much better than before. My office now glows, I used the daylight ones. So far I have had good luck with GE. One just burned out on me (mostly, it lights up a little) and I have to see if they will honor the warranty, I have saved everything for them. I got Home Depot ones and they were horrible. Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How do you set up a kid desktop?
I want to set up a separate desktop for my kids so they will only use certain files and have their own internet sites. I know you need to create an account. But then what? Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you set up a kid desktop?
...I'm sure there will be more to this. But make sure they have limited rights. Do not create an admin account for them. There is a Firefox extension that runs whitelist and blacklist sites. Install it, if you can find it. I don't recall the name, sorry. janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I want to set up a separate desktop for my kids so they will only use certain files and have their own internet sites. I know you need to create an account. But then what? Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External FW 800 drive won't mount
Tom wrote: I was given a 500-gig FireWire 800 external drive (generic, I guess; no logo on the metal case) as part of the deal when I bought my G5 on eBay, but when I plug the drive into the FW 800 port of my G5, it does not show up on the desktop, even with restarts. I tried a different FW cable, and tried both FW ports on the drive, same result. Then I took the drive over to a G4 MDD with a FW 800 port and plugged it into that computer, but the G4 doesn't see it either, so it's not likely a dead FW port on the G5. The fan in the case is running, and I can hear the drive humming away in there too, the case gets warm and vibrates mildly to the touch like things are spinning inside, and the blue light is shining steadily on the front of the case. But it doesn't show up on the desktop, and Disk Utility doesn't see it either. Back in the old SCSI days, I remember using search utilities that could seek out drives and mount them, but Disk Utility doesn't seem capable of that, or at least I don't see any Search for and Mount Drives option. What do you do with a thing like this? I'd say take it out the Firewire case, plug it in the system. If the drive shows up-assuming it's formatted and all that-then you have ruled out it being bad. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you set up a kid desktop?
On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:55 AM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I want to set up a separate desktop for my kids so they will only use certain files and have their own internet sites. I know you need to create an account. But then what? What's next depends on the version of OS you're running. All versions of OSX have allowed for more simplified setups, all pretty well documented in the Help sections. Check out Simplified You can limit the programs they can use, the places they can save files, whether or not they can even add programs. It's all in the simplified setup (and in 10.4 and 10.5, at least) in the Parental Controls section of the System Preferences. Create the account (make it a non-admin one,. then apply Parental controls to it. In 10.5 there is abutton in the acocunt setup pane. IN earlier versions of the OS they were called Simplified accounts, iirc. There's a ton of info on Apple's web site about it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
how to read PC formatted hard drives
When I need to read a IDE/ATA PC-formatted hard drive I plug it to the DVD IDE connector of my Intel Mac Pro and I can access all its files. I was wondering if this feature is accessible from a BW G3 or if it is only Leopard related or Intel related. Presently my Yosemite running os X 10.2.8 does not mount the PC formatted HD, all I can do is format the drive. It would be nice if I could set up my Yosemite to read PC formatted HD, maybe some software? Long ago I recall Access PC. Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A take on Apple Inc
At 11:50 AM -0700 12/22/2008, Doug McNutt wrote: Apple's hardware is pretty good but it seems to be mostly the result of quality supervision of low-wage contract manufacturing. Lowest repair rate in the industry for desktops. HIGHEST repair rate in the industry for laptops. (23%). And yet Apple laptops are selling well. I just don't get that. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A take on Apple Inc
Title: Re: A take on Apple Inc At 4:35 PM +1100 12/22/2008, Brian Christmas wrote: G'day listers The following makes for an interesting read.. http://tinyurl.com/8ewuko Nice article. In general, from the point of view of the small slice of the market Apple's targeting, he's spot on. And if you're not part of that slice, pi** off. sigh. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how to read PC formatted hard drives
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga ben...@gmail.com wrote: When I need to read a IDE/ATA PC-formatted hard drive I plug it to the DVD IDE connector of my Intel Mac Pro and I can access all its files. I was wondering if this feature is accessible from a BW G3 or if it is only Leopard related or Intel related. Presently my Yosemite running os X 10.2.8 does not mount the PC formatted HD, all I can do is format the drive. It would be nice if I could set up my Yosemite to read PC formatted HD, maybe some software? Long ago I recall Access PC. I let an IT pro in the student TV station at the university try to copy QT files to my external NTSF drive. He ended up flatlining it. Good luck! This guy gets paid to now how ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how to read PC formatted hard drives
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: When I need to read a IDE/ATA PC-formatted hard drive I plug it to the DVD IDE connector of my Intel Mac Pro and I can access all its files. I was wondering if this feature is accessible from a BW G3 or if it is only Leopard related or Intel related. Presently my Yosemite running os X 10.2.8 does not mount the PC formatted HD, all I can do is format the drive. It would be nice if I could set up my Yosemite to read PC formatted HD, maybe some software? Long ago I recall Access PC. OS X has ALWAYS been able to read and write FAT32-formatted drives. However most Windows systems XP and newer use NTFS formatted drives OS X 10.3 and higher can read NTFS, but you need to hack things around to write to them. (using MacFUSE and NTFS3G) However with 10.2.8, you're ool, I think. I don't remember ever being able to get NTFS working on the Mac back then. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A take on Apple Inc
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au wrote: G'day listers The following makes for an interesting read.. http://tinyurl.com/8ewuko the article states; I understand why consumers aren't paying-up for Windows PCs. How are HP, Dell, Acer, Toshiba, etc different from each other if they all use Intel chips, run Windows, and have many other of the same components? Consumers don't see the value in paying a higher price for a Windows PC versus another. I say by extension that since the Mac proudly states it's Intel innards and runs Windows it also applies that Consumers don't see the value in paying a higher price for a Windows PC versus another. regarding Mac sales as well. this is something I have said all year. Getting an Apple OS onto the shelf for PCs would give users a taste of something better. They then might just think that an Apple system could be better also. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Best G4 Desktop
Thanks a lot for the link to Dan's write-up, it's more like what I've been looking for. I'm also happy to know that I'm not the only who's crazed about these machines. I have Blue and White, ver. 1 and 2. And I'm still learning about the G4s. My Sawtooth is great, but I know there are others out there that could be better, without stepping up to the G5. But if getting the G5 is better compared to upgrade price, I just may take the leap. Vic wrote: On Dec 18, 12:25 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: And by best I mean, which of these G4 Desktop-Sawtooth, DA, etc is best to get for optimum upgrade? I have a Sawtooth now, but feel as though I could put some money on and upgrade a better machine in this line. So, which one is best for money, upgrade, etc. I think after the G3, the G4s-desktops-have been the best machines. Seconder? I've been thrilled with the quality and longevity of both my Sawteeth - still in service after all these years, but Dan's comprehensive article yesterday suggests other upgrade paths: http://lowendmac.com/musings/08mm/used-power-mac-value.html V Mabus Thanks a lot for the link to Dan's write-up, it's more like what I've been looking for. I'm also happy to know that I'm not the only who's crazed about these machines. I have Blue and White, ver. 1 and 2. And I'm still learning about the G4s. My Sawtooth is great, but I know there are others out there that could be better, without stepping up to the G5. But if getting the G5 is better compared to upgrade price, I just may take the leap. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Best G4 Desktop
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:46 PM, nestamicky wrote: But if getting the G5 is better compared to upgrade price, I just may take the leap. yes it is. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz HD cable
jonas ulrich wrote: There are some simple tests that you can perform. Get a firewire cable and connect to another mac. Then from the other mac boot into the powerbooks hard drive. If you still just get the grey screen than it's probably just the hard drive cable. -Jonas I've done this, using T at startup, but I can't access the HD on this powerbook. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com mailto:nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you may recall the thread I started about this Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz, with a Superdrive and a stick of 1GB RAM. I still have it. And the problem still exists, as is recorded here. But in summary, it it starts, bongs/chimes and gives grey screen. http://tinyurl.com/4x29ks Do you good folks think changing the cable for the hard drive would get this working? Thanks for reading, thinking and responding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Which printer do you like?
I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Perian Update
On Dec 18, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Will S wrote: Quote VLC is a nice media player, for the specific small subset of codecs it handles, but it can also be VERY crashy and is often much more CPU intensive than QuickTime. As for not needing QuickTime... Um... So you're saying that you NEVER EVER view any graphics or video of any type in any application on your Mac, except within VLC. Hint: It's all QuickTime. ALL. On my Tiger 10.4.11 Yikes!, I recently lost Quicktime playback in Firefox looking at myspace. Tried turning it off and back on in Prefs. QT Requests shows up ok in Safari, so its not myspace ... Relative to this thread, I recently did several updates / changes: Security Update, Perian, Tried VLC, Removed VLC, Firefox update. Hints on where to look to repair the situation? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On 12/22/08 12:17 PM, cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl I hate Epson printers. They use a technology that keeps the same print heads for the life of the printer and use a nipple injection system that frequently gums up and requires maintenance using more of your ink. HP on the other hand, when you replace the cartridge you replace the ink (it is self contained so no messy spills of clogged nozzles) and the print head all at the same time. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Perian Update
On Dec 22, 2008, at 3:22 PM, insightinmind wrote: On my Tiger 10.4.11 Yikes!, I recently lost Quicktime playback in Firefox looking at myspace. Tried turning it off and back on in Prefs. Clarification: They're actually links to youtube, which happen to be Quicktime clips. QT is showing up ready to run other things like movie trailers (barf) and such. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:17 PM, cheryl wrote: I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl Brother Laser printer HL 1440 It's a monochrome, but hey, it just works and it's fast. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Brother Laser printer HL 1440 It's a monochrome, but hey, it just works and it's fast. Brother lasers, HL-5250DN (30 ppm, duplexing) and MFC-8460N (30 ppm, non-duplexing, scan/copy/print), both of which I purchased as so- called factory refurbs, but were actually brand-new in every respect, but were sold as refurbs, apparently to conflict with retailers. The two named, above, share the same consumables, and ... so far ... have been supported by every version of MacOS I have installed ... certainly from 10.3 through 10.5.6. Search for the model number and refurbished to find a seller. My HL-5250DN was purchased from Amazon.com. My MFC-8460N was purchase from JustTheFAX.com. Both offered same day shipping which was free. Wound up paying no more than one-half price for each. Both are based upon the same marking engine, and both have PSL3 emulation, network printing, and expandable RAM to at least 544 MB. The cheap ones don't have expandable RAM, and don't have network printing, nor PSL3 emulation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how to read PC formatted hard drives
Ok, will install 10.3 and see, many thanks! Ben OS X 10.3 and higher can read NTFS, but you need to hack things around to write to them. (using MacFUSE and NTFS3G) However with 10.2.8, you're ool, I think. I don't remember ever being able to get NTFS working on the Mac back then. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Perian Update
At 3:22 PM -0500 12/22/2008, insightinmind wrote: On my Tiger 10.4.11 Yikes!, I recently lost Quicktime playback in Firefox looking at myspace. Tried turning it off and back on in Prefs. QT Requests shows up ok in Safari, so its not myspace ... Relative to this thread, I recently did several updates / changes: Security Update, Perian, Tried VLC, Removed VLC, Firefox update. Hints on where to look to repair the situation? Um... Maybe each thing you installed tried to take over the MIME settings (which tell the browser what helper to use for what type of content) then never reset them. Try resetting your MIME types... System Preferences QuickTime Advanced. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mds 99%
At 7:21 PM -0800 12/20/2008, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: Snip: Does the: sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* sudo mdutil -E /Volumes/* sudo mdutil -i on /Volumes/* fix the Un-mountable Volumes? No. Those commands only deal with the Spotlight indices on functioning mounted volumes. Snip: Sometimes Spotlight gets a death grip on a volume. Very annoying. Do the mdutil -i off command to disable the indexing. Then try Disk Utility. If it still has problems, then try booting into Safe Mode (shift key held down) to run Disk Utility, or boot from your OS X DVD... HTH, - Dan. - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Thank you Dan, Success! The response to all of the above suggestions was: Terminal commands: Admins-Computer:~ Admin$ sudo mdutil -i off /Volumes/* Password: /Volumes/250GigSATA: Could not set indexing status for volume. /Volumes/424GSATA: Could not set indexing status for volume. /Volumes/Kingston1GMac: Could not set indexing status for volume. /Volumes/Saved10.4.11: Could not set indexing status for volume. Admins-Computer:~ Admin$ Booting with Shift Key down: Passed POST ( got Chime) Spinning gear completed. Grow Bar competed. Desk Top came up and immediately after, the computer shut down. Booted from a OS 10.3.9 Disk and ran Desk Utility. I don't have a bootable 10.4 DVD. Disk utility reported the 250G Repaired . the 424G Volume was not completely Repaired. Saved10.4.11 was reported as Repaired. Booted from Saved10.4.11 and everything was still in error. Indexing still taking 98% CPU. the other two Volumes still won't un mount when running DU in 10.4.11. I continued using the computer for about 3 hours. At this point (4AM), I Shutdown. I think I shutdown, at least I meant to shutdown but today when I booted I was asked to Log In, which I did as Admin. I may have clicked on the bottom choice of Log Out instead of Shutdown Checked Activity Monitor and it was running 5-9% with nothing else running. Ran DU and the two Volumes un mounted and mounted and all Verified. Now I can get a 10.4 Install DVD and a large external FW HD. Thank you again, ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
Epson is really good at supporting open source, so their printers will work out of the box with Linux. Right now I have a Canon that is connected by ethernet to my router so that my whole family can print to it. Very cool, but no dice with printing when I am using Linux. Canon has cool features, but I miss the slightly more basic Epson printers I have had, unfortunately, they don't seem to be available in my area and the shops that sell Apple hardware are really pushing Canon printers hard. Good hunting, Brian On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Isaac Smith smith...@sprynet.com wrote: I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl I'm a big fan of Canon printers. I've had my MP600 all-in-one for about a year and a half, maybe two years now, and it's been great. The print quality is excellent, and I've never had to deal with a clogged nozzle like I always had to back when I had my Epson. Also, the Epson was like the Hummer of Printers—it went through ink crazy fast. The Canon is more like the Prius of Printers. It gets more work than the Epson ever did, and the ink cartridges last longer. Another major benefit of the Canon—and I believe that HP does this too— is that you can still print when one color is low or even entirely out. I remember that you couldn't do that on the Epson. And, the ink cartridges supplied by Canon are transparent, so you know that when your printer tells you it's out of ink, it's actually telling the truth. (Epson got sued awhile ago because printers reported there was no ink and refused to print even though there was ink still in the cartridges.) I hope that helps you make your decision. Isaac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how to read PC formatted hard drives
On Dec 22, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: Ok, will install 10.3 and see, many thanks! Ben OS X 10.3 and higher can read NTFS, but you need to hack things around to write to them. (using MacFUSE and NTFS3G) However with 10.2.8, you're ool, I think. I don't remember ever being able to get NTFS working on the Mac back then. It will require patience...I remember being very excited that 10.3 was going to have NTFS compatibility, but it's slooow. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On 23/12/2008, at 8:01 AM, Isaac Smith wrote: I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl G'day Cheryl I happen to like Epson printers, but not the cheap entry level ones. I've got a Stylus Photo R390 (4 years old) which uses a 6 cartridge Claria ink system, good for 100 year ink lifetime, and have never had a blockage. It's mainly used for printing photos, (for home, and my wifes scrapbooking) and I believe that Epson make the best photo printers on the planet; the quality when compared to a friends Canon was quite noticable. However, Epson printers are a bit expensive to run as you need to use Epson ink (never use recharged ink) and Epson paper (except for general printing), and if photos are not your priority, I'd look elsewhere. My friends cheap Canon was replaced 3 times under warranty, and he ended up getting a HP. I believe that the photo quality of the HP is also not as good as the Epson. Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
Canon Pixma iP4500 rocks! It has duplex printing, although it does work better when the paper is coming from the rear paper slot instead of the cassette. I had an Epson C84 and a HP, and the Epson sucked. --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Which printer do you like? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 3:41 PM On Dec 22, 2008, at 12:17 PM, cheryl wrote: I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl Brother Laser printer HL 1440 It's a monochrome, but hey, it just works and it's fast. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
natd issue, perhaps security problem?
My dual 2.3 GHz G5 w/10.5.6 froze strangely with the cursor mouse still moving with the spinning beachball icon, and no other functionality. The clock was frozen also. I waited 5 minutes and nothing changed. No commands for Force Quit worked, so I rebooted by holding the power button on the case. Upon reboot something different happened. I have Little Snitch installed. A process called natd wanted to connect to local.host via many UDP ports (about 20 total) in the series between 49159 and 49195. A Google search of natd and OS X seems to indicate there may be some security issue, however this report says that ALL versions of OS X are vulnerable EXCEPT version 10.5.6 that I'm using?: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/32874 I allowed these connections in Little Snitch, thinking they were normal OS X things, but now I'm not sure? This was on initial boot, no applications were running other than the login items. Here's the login items list: iTunesHelper, ATI Monitor, Airport Base Station Agent, FontExplorerXAutoload, SMARTReporter, gtslauncherdaemon, EyeTV Helper. I've rebooted several times, and each time this entire string of natd connections wants to connect. This is very different behavior than before. The strange freeze with the mouse working but everything else frozen seems to me that it might be a buffer overflow as minimally described in the recent security bulletin above? Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Titanium 400Mhz Powerbook won't start
So I spent all Sunday replacing the hinges on this powerbook (400Mhz, Titanium). Now I'm done and it won't give a beep. It did before I started the work, but I'm uncertain as to whether I'm using the right PSU. Someone said I can use the 45W PSU and it should work. I have a few of those that I used, including a 2002 flying-saucer looking PSU. None worked. I know the adapters work. Have you opened one of these before...anything I should take to heartlike, in the case of a Pismo, making sure the processor is seated properly? Thanks in advance for reading, thinking and responding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
AGP G4 in a BW case
A question for the hardware experts. I have a rev.1 BW G3 which I am happy with, but would really like to move to a G4, preferably something later than a Yikes. I was thinking that it might be cheaper (at least on shipping) if I could somehow swap an AGP motherboard into the BW case and use the existing drives, PS, etc. Based on my reading of the web, it seems like I might be able to get away with swapping in a Sawtooth motherboard, provided I also swap the back panel. Will this work (Sawtooth in a BW case/PS)? And, if so, have any of you done it already? Thanks. John Ruschmeyer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: natd issue, perhaps security problem?
I can't help, but have to say that I've never seen a DoS on a mac before. Wow! This is nuts. I guess I'd be off line with my mac for a little while yet...checking for an updated fix. Sorry. Kris Tilford wrote: My dual 2.3 GHz G5 w/10.5.6 froze strangely with the cursor mouse still moving with the spinning beachball icon, and no other functionality. The clock was frozen also. I waited 5 minutes and nothing changed. No commands for Force Quit worked, so I rebooted by holding the power button on the case. Upon reboot something different happened. I have Little Snitch installed. A process called natd wanted to connect to local.host via many UDP ports (about 20 total) in the series between 49159 and 49195. A Google search of natd and OS X seems to indicate there may be some security issue, however this report says that ALL versions of OS X are vulnerable EXCEPT version 10.5.6 that I'm using?: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/32874 I allowed these connections in Little Snitch, thinking they were normal OS X things, but now I'm not sure? This was on initial boot, no applications were running other than the login items. Here's the login items list: iTunesHelper, ATI Monitor, Airport Base Station Agent, FontExplorerXAutoload, SMARTReporter, gtslauncherdaemon, EyeTV Helper. I've rebooted several times, and each time this entire string of natd connections wants to connect. This is very different behavior than before. The strange freeze with the mouse working but everything else frozen seems to me that it might be a buffer overflow as minimally described in the recent security bulletin above? Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
I just upgraded from a 1560 Cannon printer to a refurbished MP530 when the old printer needed a new print head ($42.00 + shipping) for $47.00 + Shipping and a CLI... a great deal to say the least and it's performance is simply great! By the way, Cannon has had a long, close and fruitful relation ship with Apple dating back to the very beginning... good enough reason to stick with them... besides their ink and paper supplies are reasonable. Yours Rick Rick Houston --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 22, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: By the way, Cannon has had a long, close and fruitful relation ship with Apple dating back to the very beginning... good enough reason to stick with them... besides their ink and paper supplies are reasonable. Wasn't the last Canon printer which it made for Apple the Color LaserWriter? Because of Canon's higher transfer prices, Apple went away from Canon as soon as it made sense. Then, when everyone and his uncle were shipping lasers for under $200, Apple got out of the printer business altogether. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Titanium 400Mhz Powerbook won't start
On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:36 PM, nestamicky wrote: Someone said I can use the 45W PSU and it should work. I have a few of those that I used, including a 2002 flying-saucer looking PSU. None worked. I know the adapters work. There are two types of plugs on the PSUs, they look identical, but the older ones have a larger diameter center plug, and the newer are smaller in the center. If you use the newer smaller size PSU with a Mac that needs the older larger size it won't make contact and work. I'm not familiar with the TiBook, but they were made in 2001 when the clamshell iBooks that used the older standard plug where changing to the white iceBooks that use the newer standard plug, so it seems likely that your 2001 TiBook won't work with your 2002+ adapters? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 02:19 -0600, Stephen Conrad wrote: I see this like this whole Compact Florescent effort that we've bought into. The mercury in them makes them one of the worst technologies we've ever used. If you break one at home, technically, But you are right on the whole mercury thing (the companies say they are working on this) and when they do burn out you are NOT supposed to toss them in the trash (Hazardous Waste Disposal is the stream theya re supposed to go in). Howdy, I had been looking to get rid of incandescent bulbs, but the mercury problem usually stopped me. And now I don't worry about it. Compact fluorescent are old tech now. Just like Apple moved to LEDs for their LCD backlighting, you can too. Walmart has nice LED lights that plug into a standard edison base for under 6 dollars. I don't know about other sources, but competition is bound to bring them. I have one room and a closet lit with these LED bulbs and they are fine. The biggest limitation is brightness. They are a little under the equivalence of a 40 watt bulb. The room I lit uses 3 lights under a ceiling fan and a floor lamp. If you need a single bright bulb, the LED replacements are still too expensive. I don't work for Walmart(or their LED bulb supplier) or have stock or any affiliation other than being a customer. Good day, Ralph --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:17 PM, cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com wrote: I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl We have run all the invoices for our biz for many years with what to me is the work horse of printers - the Epson Stylus 740. I think we paid $40 for it about 9 years ago. I have 10 generic cartridges I fill at a time with generic ink. I have run well over a litre of black ink through those little cartridges, and it still prints like the day it was born. About 4 cases of paper have gone through it. We recycle used paper (print on backsides) when possible, which means sometimes a turned corner will cause a terriffic crunching jam, but it just pulls out of it and keeps on chugging. If someone offerered me $40 for it today I'd say no thanks. Del --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes / iPod / update snafoo
Hi Folks, Somewhere in all the upgrading I have been doing I got a glitch in my iPod that no forum archinves I can find ( including the not-active LEM iPod forum, and Apples tech pages) has really tackled. It's unusable till I solve it. The most obvious malady is that the iPod screen shows the error message no card inserted. It happened right after one of my updates of iTunes software, I don't remember which. Originally, after the error showed up, the desktop and iTunes would recognize it, but no longer is it even recognized. I have done 'reset' numurous times, both from the standard two fingered approach and from within diagnostics. I have re-installed iTunes, and OS 10.4.11 Battery is charged, various usb hookups tried. The 'no card inserted' seems to mean it is trying to default to a camera photo upload mode - which I have never used. Thanks for any clues!, Del iTunes 8.0.2 iPod 1.2.1 Classic model 4th Gen. 20 gig MAO79LL OS 10.4.11 G4 Sawtooth 500 mhz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Perian Update
On Dec 22, 2008, at 6:34 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:23 PM, technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote: On 12/22/08, insightinmind wrote: On my Tiger 10.4.11 Yikes!, I recently lost Quicktime playback in Firefox looking at myspace. Tried turning it off and back on in Prefs. They're actually links to youtube, which happen to be Quicktime clips. I thought those videos were Flashextensions are vfl, which would explain the recent need to update Perian. Is vfl Flash? You're right ... shockwave flash. I will try re-installing the flash component for Firefox, and see if that fixes things. Firefox is my Default Browser ... perhaps that's why Safari is still working with my myspace page? I tried reInstalling Flash 10 to no avail. (Uninstalling Flash, Restart, Install Flash). Seems like this really doesn't fall under this thread, so I'll search elsewhere, like Mozilla, for an answer. I think my Firefox is broken. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Perian Update
On my Tiger 10.4.11 Yikes!, I recently lost Quicktime playback in Firefox looking at MySpace. This isn't a QuickTime issue, or a Perian issue. MySpace uses a different player called FIM Media Player (FIM=FOX Interactive Media) which is related to the player that FOX Network uses on the Fox website (FOX owns MySpace). On the FOX website there is link to download some software for Mac OS X (if you need the plugin to view FOX media), but it only enables the FOX website player, but not the MySpace player. This is a known incompatibility with Macs, and likely doesn't have an easy fix. You may be able to downgrade your version of Flash Player to help, but this didn't help me in 10.5.6. The FIM Player appears to be a Flash Player add-on, and FOX network installs a plugin called MoveNetworks Quantum Media Player which definitely is a Flash Player plugin of some sort. If you Ctl-click on the MySpace video window that won't play it should gave you a version of the FIM Player that's not working. MySpace has been upgrading these players regularly - I've seen FIM version #'s increasing from 1.0.0.99 to 1.0.1.119. I think they quit working with Macs last summer sometime? I know of no solution other than using a Windows PC or running Windows on your Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G5 SuperDrive Sony DW-Q28A firmware update
I've got a dual G5 that came with an Apple SuperDrive that was branded as a Sony DW-Q28A with firmware KAS7. I became aware that this Sony drive was actually a rebranded LiteOn SOHW-1693S. The LiteOn drive had many firmware updates after the Apple drive was issued that added support for many more types of media, and better burn reliability. The LiteOn firmwares were in the series starting KS01 and increased through KS09 and then KS0A and finally KS0B (the current version). I believe the Apple firmware (KAS7) would be about the same as LiteOn KS07 in vintage, roughly 5 updates behind. One reason I embarked on this was many of my newer DVD discs would only burn at the slowest 1x or 2x speed even though they were much faster media. Plus, I was having many coasters (bad burns) that seemed more related to something in the speed control of the burn (i.e. firmware) than a possible bad optical unit. When the OEM Apple drive with Apple's KAS7 firmware was tested in a PC it tested poorly. I recently embarked on to upgrade this firmware, which was done by placing the G5's SuperDrive into a Windows PC since all the firmware flash programs are Windows only. I downloaded the current LiteOn KS0B and patched it to give full media support and added functionality using OmniPatcher, and then used HexEdit 3.3 to change the KS0B back to KAS7 so that it would appear identical to the original firmware so that I wouldn't loose my Apple Supported status in OS X, even though I don't think that matters in Leopard now? It upgraded fine and now I have a hybrid with the latest possible firmware that supports the most possible media types (331 types of discs), and it appears to be the OEM version just in case I ever boot with Tiger or Panther. There is also a small program that can change the unit to rpc1 (DVD region free). I took a Sharpie and wrote on my drive upgraded with LiteOn SOHW-1693S KS0B patched firmware rpc1 because Apple System Profiler continues to show it as the OEM Sony DW-Q28A KAS7. If anyone has this model Sony DW-Q28A and would like to upgrade it with my patched version of the LiteOn firmware I can email you the Windows PC flash program with patched firmware and the rpc1 program. It's relatively easy if you have a Windows PC to place the SuperDrive into for upgrading. I make no guarantees, upgrading firmware is always slightly risky, and you might kill your unit. I've kept a copy of the original Apple KAS7 firmware (which isn't available on the internet AFAIK) as a precaution, so you probably could downgrade to where you started if you had problems. I haven't used mine enough to see if it's helped with my burn speeds or bad burn issues, but it reads all discs fine still. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Perian Update
On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On my Tiger 10.4.11 Yikes!, I recently lost Quicktime playback in Firefox looking at MySpace. This isn't a QuickTime issue, or a Perian issue. Apologies for hijacking this thread. I solved the problem. I had placed some Adblocks on a variety of smut-like ads, and somehow it got transferred over to also blocking shockwave flash files being downloaded from youtube, possibly after an update of Firefox (and not from adding perian, or doing other Quicktime updates). Once I turned off the Adblock addon, everything came back ... youtube videos and the married bad girls looking for married daddies wanting a good time and / or needing a spanking ads, etc. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 22, 1:31 pm, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: On 12/22/08 12:17 PM, cheryl chelyh...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: I have a HP 1210xi all in one that has quit on me. I don't think it's really compatible with Leopard. Anyway, I really like Epson printers but I thought it would be a good idea to ask what you like. I'm on a Quicksilver 2002 933mhz with 896mb ram. Thanks! Cheryl I hate Epson printers. They use a technology that keeps the same print heads for the life of the printer and use a nipple injection system that frequently gums up and requires maintenance using more of your ink. HP on the other hand, when you replace the cartridge you replace the ink (it is self contained so no messy spills of clogged nozzles) and the print head all at the same time. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. Ditto on Epson - I've thrown away two of them that each worked for a little while, but my 10-year-old HP still works as well as it ever did... --V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
On Dec 22, 2008, at 9:08 PM, Vic wrote: Ditto on Epson - I've thrown away two of them that each worked for a little while, but my 10-year-old HP still works as well as it ever did... Parts for all Canon lasers are widely available. The mechanical design is so good most can achieve 1,000,000 impressions (less for personal lasers, of course). I still have LaserWriters made in 1984 which are still operational. The Canon toner cassette system is foolproof, and refills are widely available. Brother is second in my book on the score of consumables, mainly because the OPC drum is a separate component. But, a positive for Brother is its extended range cassettes. Both of my production lasers are Brothers which use the 550/580 toner cassette, refurbs of which are widely available for as little as $19.99. My LaserWriters remain available for the few times when I need absolute PostScript compatibility. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz HD cable
Well if you can't access the hard drive through firewire from another mac, then I think it is the hard drive cable. I have the exact same laptop and I think it is worth fixing. How much does it cost?-Jonas On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:00 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: jonas ulrich wrote: There are some simple tests that you can perform. Get a firewire cable and connect to another mac. Then from the other mac boot into the powerbooks hard drive. If you still just get the grey screen than it's probably just the hard drive cable. -Jonas I've done this, using T at startup, but I can't access the HD on this powerbook. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you may recall the thread I started about this Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz, with a Superdrive and a stick of 1GB RAM. I still have it. And the problem still exists, as is recorded here. But in summary, it it starts, bongs/chimes and gives grey screen. http://tinyurl.com/4x29ks Do you good folks think changing the cable for the hard drive would get this working? Thanks for reading, thinking and responding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Titanium 400Mhz Powerbook won't start
I had a tibook 2002 for about a week before I returned it with a bad mother board. When you say it doesn't give a beep are you talking about the apple chime? Does it even get power? These laptops were very inconsistent. Some of them will overheat and melt as shown in the five links. imgreshttp://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/217048670_670bae408e.jpg%3Fv%3D0imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/howell/217048670/usg=__SOu8Asea4bcdfe7P3NBRdbiAcag=h=375w=500sz=134hl=enstart=16sig2=mQ0FsQw_yRDeqY1rdHqZkwtbnid=p42pImuO14-zvM:tbnh=98tbnw=130ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8Pprev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG imgreshttp://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.appledefects.com/images/keyboard_small-thumb.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.appledefects.com/%3Fcat%3D37usg=__6SUjIY3b1lTX2jDxi2VrI3LcejM=h=188w=398sz=120hl=enstart=11sig2=eYKN5Mkggju5-52U0YJ4IQtbnid=Ncf-gdIjJ_A_lM:tbnh=59tbnw=124ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8Pprev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG imgreshttp://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/melted1.jpgimgrefurl=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/laptops/the-melted-g4-powerbook-part-3-231983.phpusg=__zPSPG1XLZ6ON1-blHyiUNHXR6PY=h=390w=520sz=89hl=enstart=4sig2=SEVcG9Cuo8InxdKrZ-ffzgtbnid=I61xANKsUAXRBM:tbnh=98tbnw=131ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8Pprev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG imgreshttp://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/melted2.jpgimgrefurl=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/laptops/the-melted-g4-powerbook-part-3-231983.phpusg=__NL2ks-ks-8GHAxnERVQ7bT60hqM=h=390w=520sz=101hl=enstart=3sig2=T7RWav64o8M_zONoP_BjIwtbnid=5thg59QI75i8rM:tbnh=98tbnw=131ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8Pprev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG imgreshttp://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/DCP_0005.JPGimgrefurl=http://www.appledefects.com/%3Fcat%3D23usg=__apL47MtpKlgNgu7gfXv-Obr8hVA=h=1440w=2160sz=866hl=enstart=1sig2=FQG-sxSthoPrAPg1UBIlYgtbnid=ODshluKIin9wWM:tbnh=100tbnw=150ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8Pprev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG . Some just don't work well. But there are some, the later models, that work great.-Jonas On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Dec 22, 2008, at 4:36 PM, nestamicky wrote: Someone said I can use the 45W PSU and it should work. I have a few of those that I used, including a 2002 flying-saucer looking PSU. None worked. I know the adapters work. There are two types of plugs on the PSUs, they look identical, but the older ones have a larger diameter center plug, and the newer are smaller in the center. If you use the newer smaller size PSU with a Mac that needs the older larger size it won't make contact and work. I'm not familiar with the TiBook, but they were made in 2001 when the clamshell iBooks that used the older standard plug where changing to the white iceBooks that use the newer standard plug, so it seems likely that your 2001 TiBook won't work with your 2002+ adapters? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Which printer do you like?
My Epson Stylus Photo R1800 makes beautiful prints from digital photos or scans. Occasionally a print head will clog and need cleaning, and that wastes ink, but the prints are so good that I put up with it. There are six separate ink cartridges so you can use each one up completely, unlike my R1280 that had to have its entire cartridge containing all the colors thrown away when just one color ran out. I learned that when the printer starts warning you that a color is low (a red light blinks), don't replace it--it still has a lot of life left. I suppose Epson is hoping you'll replace a cartridge when it's merely low. When a cartridge is empty, the red light is steady, and the printer stops. Another plus: the combination of these archival Epson inks and matte heavyweight paper is said by Epson to be able to last 200 years if you keep it out of constant sunlight. I've had color prints hanging on a wall in a stairwell that do get afternoon sun, and in three years I've seen no fading in them. I sell these prints on eBay, (see http://tinyurl.com/5s5r7j ) and plenty of people have bought them. Take a look at my eBay feedback to see how much people like these prints. They really are beautiful. So, if your main use is to print photos or scans, my vote is for the Epson R1800. Tom Thomas Baker Art website at http://www.ThomasBakerPaintings.com Ebay art store at http://stores.ebay.com/Thomas-Baker-fine-art-prints YouTube videos: http://tinyurl.com/6e698m Archaeology website at http://www.nmia.com/~jaybird/AANewsletter/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
