Re: Issue with Thunderbird?
Dennis Myhand wrote: Does anyone know of any issues with installing Thunderbird for Macs? I have a Sawtooth running 10.4.11 on a G-4 450MHz (Beautifully, I might add), and I don't seem to be able to install Thunderbird. At least, it doesn't seem to work like the installer for Firefox did, even though it looks to be built the same. When I slide the icon to the right, nothing happens. It just slides and sits there. When I did that with Firefox, the installer kicked in and installed the application. All useful help is appreciated. Thanks, Dennis in Edna Please check and make sure that you'd downloaded the mac version. If you downloaded using the mac, I think, just like Firefox, it pulls the right version for you. I'm not sure if T-bird does same. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading this group
I have T-bird set up now. But still have a problem. This is what I want. I want to follow the conversation in T-Bird just as they will appear on the web-page of Google. Can I do that? Please! At the very top would be the original poster, and at the very end, the last response. This way I can read from top to bottom. With T-bird now, I get responses to portions of the original post. To be able to read the entire post and responses, I'd have to read T-bird chronologically, and that means going through each e-Mail on a particular thread as they appear. Do I make sense? Please say I do. Thanks, Michael Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Nesta Nesta wrote: Can someone please say how they use Google's G-mail on this group and how they have it set to produce their following discussions logically. I use Gmail in IMAP mode using Mail on my macs. Turn on threading or sort by subject (usually) and you can follow things. Here are Gmail's help on this: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=12806 IMAP gives you the best of all worlds, you can use a real email client instead of a web page, and IMAP lets you access it from any computer you have (a nice thing when your someone like me who has three I use all the time...work, laptop and home systems.) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz HD cable
Some of you may recall the thread I started about this Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz, with a Superdrive and a stick of 1GB RAM. I still have it. And the problem still exists, as is recorded here. But in summary, it it starts, bongs/chimes and gives grey screen. http://tinyurl.com/4x29ks Do you good folks think changing the cable for the hard drive would get this working? Thanks for reading, thinking and responding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?
insightinmind wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 17, 2008, at 9:00 PM, insightinmind wrote: 20:59:17 M-Å-S configd[14]: InterfaceNamer: PowerMac3,5/MacRISC2PE/ p...@f200/AppleMacRiscPCI/pci-bri...@13/IOPCI2PCIBridge/ firew...@1/ AppleFWOHCI/IOFireWireController/IOFireWireLocalNode [1] This is waiting on a Firewire device, either the FW interface in the Sonnet card, or an external device that's acting up. If a onboard FW connected external FW HD is not turned on, could it still cause problems? The power supply to it is on, but the drive is not on. I will say yes. Although the Firewire unit is not turned on, as long as it is connected juice flows through it. And I think this is causing the machine to think it ought to be using it. Obviously it cant because there is not enough power from the unit. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Best G4 Desktop
And by best I mean, which of these G4 Desktop-Sawtooth, DA, etc is best to get for optimum upgrade? I have a Sawtooth now, but feel as though I could put some money on and upgrade a better machine in this line. So, which one is best for money, upgrade, etc. I think after the G3, the G4s-desktops-have been the best machines. Seconder? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you set up a kid desktop?
...I'm sure there will be more to this. But make sure they have limited rights. Do not create an admin account for them. There is a Firefox extension that runs whitelist and blacklist sites. Install it, if you can find it. I don't recall the name, sorry. janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I want to set up a separate desktop for my kids so they will only use certain files and have their own internet sites. I know you need to create an account. But then what? Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External FW 800 drive won't mount
Tom wrote: I was given a 500-gig FireWire 800 external drive (generic, I guess; no logo on the metal case) as part of the deal when I bought my G5 on eBay, but when I plug the drive into the FW 800 port of my G5, it does not show up on the desktop, even with restarts. I tried a different FW cable, and tried both FW ports on the drive, same result. Then I took the drive over to a G4 MDD with a FW 800 port and plugged it into that computer, but the G4 doesn't see it either, so it's not likely a dead FW port on the G5. The fan in the case is running, and I can hear the drive humming away in there too, the case gets warm and vibrates mildly to the touch like things are spinning inside, and the blue light is shining steadily on the front of the case. But it doesn't show up on the desktop, and Disk Utility doesn't see it either. Back in the old SCSI days, I remember using search utilities that could seek out drives and mount them, but Disk Utility doesn't seem capable of that, or at least I don't see any Search for and Mount Drives option. What do you do with a thing like this? I'd say take it out the Firewire case, plug it in the system. If the drive shows up-assuming it's formatted and all that-then you have ruled out it being bad. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Best G4 Desktop
Thanks a lot for the link to Dan's write-up, it's more like what I've been looking for. I'm also happy to know that I'm not the only who's crazed about these machines. I have Blue and White, ver. 1 and 2. And I'm still learning about the G4s. My Sawtooth is great, but I know there are others out there that could be better, without stepping up to the G5. But if getting the G5 is better compared to upgrade price, I just may take the leap. Vic wrote: On Dec 18, 12:25 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: And by best I mean, which of these G4 Desktop-Sawtooth, DA, etc is best to get for optimum upgrade? I have a Sawtooth now, but feel as though I could put some money on and upgrade a better machine in this line. So, which one is best for money, upgrade, etc. I think after the G3, the G4s-desktops-have been the best machines. Seconder? I've been thrilled with the quality and longevity of both my Sawteeth - still in service after all these years, but Dan's comprehensive article yesterday suggests other upgrade paths: http://lowendmac.com/musings/08mm/used-power-mac-value.html V Mabus Thanks a lot for the link to Dan's write-up, it's more like what I've been looking for. I'm also happy to know that I'm not the only who's crazed about these machines. I have Blue and White, ver. 1 and 2. And I'm still learning about the G4s. My Sawtooth is great, but I know there are others out there that could be better, without stepping up to the G5. But if getting the G5 is better compared to upgrade price, I just may take the leap. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz HD cable
jonas ulrich wrote: There are some simple tests that you can perform. Get a firewire cable and connect to another mac. Then from the other mac boot into the powerbooks hard drive. If you still just get the grey screen than it's probably just the hard drive cable. -Jonas I've done this, using T at startup, but I can't access the HD on this powerbook. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com mailto:nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you may recall the thread I started about this Powerbook G4 17 1.67 Mhz, with a Superdrive and a stick of 1GB RAM. I still have it. And the problem still exists, as is recorded here. But in summary, it it starts, bongs/chimes and gives grey screen. http://tinyurl.com/4x29ks Do you good folks think changing the cable for the hard drive would get this working? Thanks for reading, thinking and responding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Titanium 400Mhz Powerbook won't start
So I spent all Sunday replacing the hinges on this powerbook (400Mhz, Titanium). Now I'm done and it won't give a beep. It did before I started the work, but I'm uncertain as to whether I'm using the right PSU. Someone said I can use the 45W PSU and it should work. I have a few of those that I used, including a 2002 flying-saucer looking PSU. None worked. I know the adapters work. Have you opened one of these before...anything I should take to heartlike, in the case of a Pismo, making sure the processor is seated properly? Thanks in advance for reading, thinking and responding. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: natd issue, perhaps security problem?
I can't help, but have to say that I've never seen a DoS on a mac before. Wow! This is nuts. I guess I'd be off line with my mac for a little while yet...checking for an updated fix. Sorry. Kris Tilford wrote: My dual 2.3 GHz G5 w/10.5.6 froze strangely with the cursor mouse still moving with the spinning beachball icon, and no other functionality. The clock was frozen also. I waited 5 minutes and nothing changed. No commands for Force Quit worked, so I rebooted by holding the power button on the case. Upon reboot something different happened. I have Little Snitch installed. A process called natd wanted to connect to local.host via many UDP ports (about 20 total) in the series between 49159 and 49195. A Google search of natd and OS X seems to indicate there may be some security issue, however this report says that ALL versions of OS X are vulnerable EXCEPT version 10.5.6 that I'm using?: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/32874 I allowed these connections in Little Snitch, thinking they were normal OS X things, but now I'm not sure? This was on initial boot, no applications were running other than the login items. Here's the login items list: iTunesHelper, ATI Monitor, Airport Base Station Agent, FontExplorerXAutoload, SMARTReporter, gtslauncherdaemon, EyeTV Helper. I've rebooted several times, and each time this entire string of natd connections wants to connect. This is very different behavior than before. The strange freeze with the mouse working but everything else frozen seems to me that it might be a buffer overflow as minimally described in the recent security bulletin above? Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I am thinking about a processor upgrade for my G4/400 AGP
Bruce may not have the time to say what he said a few weeks ago. So, I will pass it on. It was a single line that essentially suggests; get a G5 than spend money on a G4 upgrade. I'm still mulling that suggestion. I have Sawtooths. I was hoping to get a DA but Bruce gave me something to think about...and I hope you too. aussieshepsrock wrote: HiYa RiverMan, There is a big 'IF' in my reccomendation, but I see the cheapest and most straight forward speed bump you can achieve is by sliding an Intel Mini in the place of your Tower. When I compare the 'benchmark' numbers in the MacTracker App between a 400mhz g4 agp to a late model Mini it goes from a 221 score to a 2300 score. That is a 10 fold increase. The big 'IF' is whether you can live without the PCI slots, Native OS9, and internal drive expansion and the like. A mini can be had for a lot less than tricking out a G4/400/agp. There is also no rule saying you have to throw away the G4 tower after getting your mini - peaceful coexistence really can happen! In my personal opinion, when faced with jumping upwards from an early G4 tower, there are multiple good reasons to pick a Mini and multiple reasons to not pick a mini - the answer for 'YOU' depends on what variables are important in your computing world and what budget you're working with. It's also hard to call a 10x power increase for 600ish bucks a mistake. At worst I personally would call it a relatively inexpensive technological placeholder to buy the power and see if it will work before dropping a ton of bucks on a current or late model Mac Tower. Richard On Jan 4, 4:31 pm, RiverMan scarumcr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried the upgrade from XLR8 or Newer Tech? I read about a 1.6 Ghz and a 2.0 Ghz upgrade for my G4 but would love to hear from people who have tried it. Or should I just save my cash and get a newer model? Thanks! -=] RiverMan [=- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
Wilton Shaw wrote: Hello, Yesterday today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly. I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net mailto:whs...@verizon.net And while you're in there, you may also find out why it failed. Or, post the output here. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: There is the question of the required OS9 drivers for X to load. WTF?? OS X doesn't require OS 9 in any way, shape or form. Perhaps you mean the required drivers for OS 9 to load? Oh Oh, someone's got Bruce's blood boiling. I agree with the last poster. Find a small HD install 9 on it and keep it. You never know. This is what I did after upgrading the firmware on my Pismo. Actually, it was Bruce who suggested. Now that 6GB is sitting some place, with OS 9 on it...if I ever need it. Also, OS9 is so small, it is smaller than a lot of picture and music storage. You can also just burn the OS9 folder to a CD and copy it back if you ever need it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow but Yikes!!! Was: powerbook g4 15 1.67ghz screen closing not sleeping laptop??
James E. Therrault wrote: Andy wrote: Compare this to the ancient laptop, (the one and only), produced by Power Computing in 1997. It took all of six minutes to upgrade the HD in it! Superb industrial design. I agree with you over the older Powerbooks/iBooks,however upgrading the HD in a Macbook takes about 3 mins. Andy Thanks for the update. OTOH, the failure rate of the newer notebooks is higher than the older ones. sigh As a retired process, (manufacturing), engineer, I have little patience when it comes to repair/maintenance procedures. Guess that's why I still drive a (very) old car.. G JT And while you have that old car, I need not ask you care for it like you would a child. Because the trend now is for us to drive computers...making it impossible for us to change even the oil. As regards Apple's laptops: I consider each journey into them, except the Pismo and Lombard, a challegene against Apple. Sticking it to them as they obviously do not want people in them, based on how they pack 'em. But the zeal is draining...I've now for 4 months been dreading opening up an iBook with the dreaded video problem. And yes, I know about ifixit. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
Stephen Conrad wrote:
OK, got a few issues here.
BW G3, OS X 10.2.9, 1G RAM
Firefox 2.0.0.20
First off, it was running fine the other day.
Then I got notice that 3 of my Add-ons had updates.
Not a problem, I wasn't busy so I updated them. This has never been a
problem and the other day some of my other Add-ons were updated.
Now we get to the problem.
Since the update and rebooting of FF its been a PITA for me.
The Issues
===
It doesn't seem to like too many tabs open (never a problem before)
Some sites are damn slow to load (if they load at all).
Example: Tagged (www.tagged.com) doesn't seem to want to load
whereas it always worked fine before.
What you see is the status bar gets part way across and just hangs there.
I couldn't get Gmail to either Auto-fill a name for me or to load my Contacts
What I Have Done
~~~
I cleared private Data (well, Cache, Browsing History, Download
History, Saved Form and Search History as well as Authenticated
Sessions)
So, what could be the problem here?
None of the Add-ons that were updated had to do with major things {I
remember a few were WebMail Notifier, DownloadHelper, Red Cats (a
Theme)} and if I knew how to see what the others were I'd post them
too.
Thanks for your help!
This is funny because just today I was going to send a post titled Going
back to Safari I think I did more than you did.
I cleared every mention of Firefox on my Pismo 400. Downloaded and installed
the stable latest version. Then I opened Firefox and Safari and went on a
user test experience. Safari seems to pick up faster each time. And there is
only one addon on Firefox; VideoDownload Helper
Left overnight Firefox will take forever to get going again. Safari picks up
quicker. The start time for Firefox increases if you have Youtube ages up, or
any of those video sites opened, before the computer was put to sleep; either
my closing the lid or non-use with the lid open.
I've tried, at the suggestion here, to use the nightly builds. That worked
for a while until I could not even get it to open. It's a shame. I've never
had this kinds of issues on a PC.
BTW anyone know of a good way to download .swf files?
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Re: Firefox Issues
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, nestamicky wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:26 AM, nestamicky wrote: BTW anyone know of a good way to download .swf files? You mean like from Youtube and such? I've found that CosmoPod http://www.cocoamug.com/cosmopod/ works very well for me. It's been well worth the $10 or so it cost me.(it's priced in euros, and the exchange rate's been fluctuating...) Thanks for that Bruce. Anyone, anyone with the skills and tools to get this video. I think if yes, I'd have found a way to get just about all the flash vids out there I'd like. Here is the challenge: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2008/07/newsnight_wins_again.html The Beeb is particularly difficult to get video from...I believe they're using some tortured flash techniques to offer ONLY streaming video, with no local cache to capture. They're also using their own player ID in there. I've never been successful getting BBC video. Thanks for that Bruce. It's refreshing and good to know that I'm not the only one in the struggle. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
no internet but lan
So, I think I can post this here. It's a hard-headed imac: 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo; 667mhz with 10.4 on it. It will connect to other machines-macs-on the network but won't go online. I've unchecked and re-checked the ethernet option in the Network pane. I've checked firewall, etc. I've used all sorts of available combinations; manual, dhcp, etc. It always pulls up the same IP, no matter what I do. It won't release it's dhcp lease either. Is there a place I can go delete stuff...to start anew. It's hanging onto something that's not working. Any terminal commands you know of that might help...flush dns etc? Help! Thanks guys! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox Issues
The issue is not watching the beebs, it's getting their video. And I think if one is able to grab their video as easily as could be done from Youtube, the standard for making it hard to do so would have been sorted out. What amazes me is that no one, at least here, seem to know how to do it. So should we put a price on it...or extend it to PCs as well? Robert MacLeay wrote: On Feb 11, 1:09 pm, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: What about using the video screen capture aspect of applications like Snap X Pro ? Steve R I have successfully used IShowU to watch the beeb (and the clever 2- part Apple ads on the NY Times site ) and save as a QuickTime movie. The tricky part is trying to match frame rates. There will be some unavoidable decompression/re-compression quality loss as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The need, the need for (browser) speed
What a wonderful post. Maybe, just maybe, I will grow to love Firefox on my G3s again. I'd simply moved onto Safari. So, here we go again, completely deleting everything that mentions Firefox and installing the version from rpm. Thanks so much! What's webkit about? Dan wrote: RPM has posted powerpc optimized Firefox 3.0.6 builds - quite nice. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html And the current WebKit Nightly, on top of Safari 3.2.1 -- wow. I donno what they did, but it zooms thru acid3 much faster on my Smurf then previous builds! http://nightly.webkit.org/ ...Don't forget to turn off the check for fraudulent sites in Safari/WebKit. That lame feature really slows things down a lot! FWIW, - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: cucusoft.com
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 26, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: I have researched programs for converting the DVDs' I already have to MP4 format to play on my iPod Classic 120GB and itunes and www.cucusoft.com was the best rated program out there from what I read. Has anyone of you out there tried cucusoft and does it work as good as it is said to work? Why pay for something Handbrake does for free? http://handbrake.fr/ (And does quite well, I might add!) Good one Bruce, very good one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dead PowerMac G4 Digital Audio Model
BillBoggs wrote: Worked flawlessly for many years. Now, without any warning, it just stopped. Won't power up at all, no sign of life whatsoever. Any suggestions where to start? Thanks! Bill I will start with checking the power supply. Got a multi-meter? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
Steve R wrote: At 11:32 PM -0500 2/26/09, Dan posted: At 2:42 PM -0800 2/26/2009, Scott Fiore wrote: own a Motorola Surfboard 5220 modem (about 1 1/2 years old) that I connect to my Airport Express. I received a call from my internet provider this morning notifying me that because this modem is being discontinued by Motorola, it will soon stop working and I will need to buy or rent a new modem. Does this sound right? yes, and no. And welcome to the quandry posed by owning your own telecom gear instead of renting... Due to the way cable modems work, the ones on a provider's network *must* be fully supported by their CMTS (head end router). I think you'll find that your ToS states that they can tell you what make model modems are permitted. That being said... It's baloney that the modem is going to stop working just because Motorola is discontinuing that model. Total baloney. The truth is that the cable company simply no longer wants to support that model, so they're going to unprovision them (shut them down intentionally). Why? Two main reasons: 1) Evil company etc. 2) They're upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0, and your modem doesn't support that faster protocol. You could try googling to see if there are any hacks available to reprogramme your modem to your ISP's new settings. Problem being, you need the new settings (a friend or neighbour on the same ISP after the changeover could find those settings for you) and you'd be offline after the changeover until you were able to make the changes. There's no guarantee a hack would work or be accepted by your ISP's line but it might be worth a try. When I changed ISPs, my old ISP modem was wireless and 4-port. The new ISP modem was the same, with three ports and wireless disabled. Google gave me several hits on how to hack the new modem -- I declined the risk because I had an unused router that could serve the same functions. A neighbour also changed ISPs and did hack his new ISP modem, which has been working fine with the 4 ports and wireless for more than a year. (He has more money than me to replace the modem if he messed up.) Steve R Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
Dan wrote: At 12:07 PM -0700 2/27/2009, nestamicky wrote: Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? On the WAN side, very little if it's the direct connection to the ISP - they control that side and will rip your liver out if you fool with it. On the LAN side (wired or wireless)... depends on the device. Some let you tweak the size of the NAT table etc. Some let you bridge easily - so you can daisy chain them to create really large coverage areas. ...Given the rate at which wifi standards change, you might be better of selling 'em now while you can get a few bucks for 'em! :\ - Dan. I was mainly thinking the LAN side. I do not mess with the ISP; the usually have all the tools and time to crack down on customers. I don't. I might try the daisy chain thing until someone comes up with a great way to 'play' with these things. These are old b routers and would not bring in anything, really. Part of the reason they're with me...from those who moved on to better and bigger routers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Spotlight Problem in Mail
gifutiger wrote: Greetings Linda ( + )!( + ) You might want to try rebuilding the Mailbox file. You can do this by opening Mac mail, select a mailbox (i.e. inbox) then select from the main drop-down menu Mailbox and select the last item Rebuild This will cause a rebuild of that selected Mailbox However one short coming is that if you have nested mailbox's the Rebuild command will only rebuild the top mailbox. So if you have nested mailbox's click on the Triangle to show the nested mailbox's and then select one of the individual box's, nest preform the above. If you have the Acitvity window open you can watch the progress of the Rebuild Cheers - Harry_ ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Feb 8, 10:57 am, Linda graphics...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Ok, I seem to have a problem with my mail. Spotlight will not search the entire message. Also I can't move the window titles over so I can see how many emails are in a thread. I recently upgraded to OS 10.5 on my G4 mirror door tower. This is frustrating when I need to find something in an old email. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Linda in Ohio Well, thanks to Dan for the code, and Bruce, for his 5 minutes putting it together as a program.Who knew one can write a program in the short time. Wonderful! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: web design software what to get?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Linda wrote: When I upgraded to Leopard I lost my OS 9 which had my ancient version of Golive on it. As this was the only application I had used to create webpages I am at a loss as to what to do. So can anyone offer an inexpensive, easy to use basic web design application? I only do stuff for family but would like to be able to keep things updated. KompoZer http://kompozer.net/ is the continued development of the orphaned nVu web site editor. Easy to use, yet it makes clean enough HTML that you can edit it in a text editor with relative ease. I've set up a number of folks at the College: grad students doing their lab's web pages, clubs doing theirs, with this and everyone has been able to put together some nice looking stuff quite easily. There's also Amaya http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Amaya.html which is really what Tim Berners-Lee had in mind when he first invented the Web: A web browser you also write web pages in, since he originally envisioned the WWW as a collaborative, two-way medium, not just a delivery vehicle for content. Amaya is also completely W3C compliant, as it is their reference browser. Thanks for Amaya, Bruce. It's a nice one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: questions....questions
Lawrence David Eden wrote: Here is my situation: I have been using a Beige G3 with a Zif Upgrade. The Beige runs at 500mhz. I have added firewire and USB cards and they work fine. In fact, the entire computer is performing well. I was recently given a 450 mhz G4 tower which I expect to be faster than the Beige and I want to start using it ASAP. My ZIF upgrade is compatible with the new Mac, so I can use it. The problem(s) I want to transfer all of my settings, software authorizations, bookmarks, and email addresses to the newer Mac. But The hard drive from the Beige is incompatible with the new G4 so I can't simply add the Beige's hard drive to the G4. Nor will it mount on the G4 regardless of jumper settings. Apple's Migration Assistant did not work because the Beige does not have native firewire. I did a Carbon Copy Clone of the Beige onto my external firewire drive but I can't figure out how to transfer the clone to the newer Mac. 1. Put the older HD in an external case; USB/Firewire. 2. Read CC's website carefully. I've done this before but can't recall now. 3. Use a network; a switch and two CAT5 cables. I hope that some of you have experience with this scenario and can offer some ideas towards a solution. Also, considering the time and trouble, do you think I will see any speed increases over the Beige? Larry Eden --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
Mel wrote: The answer might be contained in this: so he could put the original NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video card back in and hook up a second monitor on it (not to mention a major area cleanup-desk reorganization and reworking the spaghetti). Try removing the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video card and re-booting. Mel --- On *Mon, 3/2/09, Yersinia /yersi...@cybernex.net/* wrote: From: Yersinia yersi...@cybernex.net Subject: Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting To: G-List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 8:05 AM M-hmm.been following this one quietly, now going to add Over the Christmas holiday weekend while my BF was here, I shut down my G4 867 Quicksilver and my USB/Firewire external HD (40 GB drive in a LaCie enclosure), so he could put the original NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video card back in and hook up a second monitor on it (not to mention a major area cleanup-desk reorganization and reworking the spaghetti). While all that was successful, when it was all done and I powered everything back up, the external HD, which had always been Firewired to the G4, disappeared. That is, it didn't show up on the desktop, and the G4 didn't know it was there in either Disk Utility or ASP). Important Note -- Immediately prior to shutting down and starting this, I had updated my backups to the external HD over Firewire, and all was well with it. This sounds like the OP's issue -- his FW drive was working fine until he shut down, but when rebooting, he lost it, which is why this thread got my attention. Second Important Note -- Although the Firewire is down on this drive, the drive comes up perfectly well with USB -- on the desktop, in Disk Utility and in ASP -- so I can still use it even though USB is suboptimal compared to the Firewire -- and is completely usable as well as visible on the desktop. Firewire Experiment after USB showed that the HD itself was good and I could still make backups and transfer data albeit horribly slowly: I only had the one FW cable, so we tried switching FW ports in the G4. No go -- it didn't matter which port we used; the drive only showed up when we plugged it back in with USB. My BF said this meant it could be a problem with either the cable OR the FW port on the external drive case. He said he'd take my cable home and test it on his system (he also has an external USB/Firewire drive), and if it failed, next time he came down, he'd bring another FW cable (a known working good), and we'd try it on mine, but this time, he said, if it didn't work, it would mean the FW port on my enclosure was bad. Alas, I didn't even THINK to try my FW cable with the iBook (and my brain death gets even worse!), but it seems my cable was bad anyway at his house. Sooo, for his next visit... He showed up over Valentine's weekend with a working FW cable he had just used himself on his own equipment and, just in case, a four port USB hub. No go on the FW with my machine, in either port -- which means I have no more Firewire unless or until I get another enclosure. And the worse part of the brain death - AGAIN it didn't occur to me to think of the iBook. If only I had, it wouldn't have taken me two days and two nights to do a massive data transfer to the iBook totally with USB flash drives. I'd have done my iBook nuke-and-pave while he was here with the good FW cable and moved all the stuff into the iBook straight out of the G4 with FW Target Disk Mode! Thank goodness for the USB hub though -- at least now I can have my external HD and BOTH flash drives plugged in simultaneously when needed. That helps a little anyway... But anyway -- how in the heck is it possible that just shutting down could have killed the FW port in my enclosure? I never dropped my external HD or spilled anything on it and when I used to move data from it into the iBook, I would simply unplug the end that was in the G4's FW port and plug it into the iBook's FW port...so other than the initial plugging in (first week of Aug 2007 when I got it), I had never even touched the enclosure's FW port! Even when we disconnected it from the G4 after the shutdown (to be able to rearrange the area and get inside the G4 to make it run the second monitor), we did it from the G4's end. :sigh: ~Yersinia. Never accept a drink from a urologist. Let me please add, suggests, etc the following. Firewire is perhaps so named because there is fire on that cable. So knowing this, here is how I have always shut mine down. 1. Eject the HD 2. Walk over to the external case and turn it's switch
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
Steve R wrote: At 12:07 PM -0700 2/27/09, nestamicky posted: Since this thread is going on and since I have more than a few modems and wireless routers, I've always wanted to ask: what fun stuff can one do with these things, especially the wireless routers? Any ideas? Are you familiar with Bastard Sons of Dialup/BSoD? Check out their website http://bsodtv.org for their blogs and web episodes. Their stuff is Windows-centric and way over my head but it is interesting to see what can be done with older equipment. Their stuff is also showing up on legal torrents and usenet. Steve R Thanks for the link to http://bsodtv.org It's the sort of place I was looking for. I also know of hackaday.com but I've not been able to find anything there that deals with toying with old wireless routers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire Question
Try changing the jumpers for now...until someone else says something. By the way that approach only work sometimes. Paul wrote: I just got an external CD writer with a firewire (400) connection. I got it for the firewire, not for the CD, so I opened it up and installed a hard drive in place of the CD drive, and set the jumper to master, which was how the CD drive was set. The CD worked all right, but the hard drive doesn't show up on the desktop. I'm running a G4 AGP with OS 10.4.11. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: True of False - Pismo CPU board in Lombard?
Bruce - in Orlando wrote: No - don't need another Lombard thanks. I was just thinking about having a little fun by clocking a 400 mhz CPU, and so was rummaging thru ebay just to see what was out there ... And to that I say; there is no processor upgrade for the 400mhz Lombard. Pismo's? Yes. On Mar 4, 2:19 pm, jonas ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, are you looking for a motherboard for a lombard? I have a lombard or two that I could sell you. -Jonas On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Bruce - in Orlando wrote: I see on ebay right now there is a 500 mhz CPU board being advertised as being for a Lombard: http://cgi.ebay.com/Processor-Board-Apple-PowerBook-G3- Lombard-500Mhz- Used_W0QQitemZ140304439019QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0? hash=item140304439019_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66% 3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 Lombard has two in-line connectors for the interface to the mobo. Pismo has the same very high density connector as the later G4 desktops. As the subject item is the second, it is a Pismo, not a Lombard. Factory Lombard processors were 333 and 400 MHz. Factory Pismo processors were 400 and 500 MHz.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Got IP camera with eithernet connection behind but
I assume your camera has a webserver in it; check the manual and also check how to log into the camera from your browser. You'd have to give your friend your external IP. Great cameras will give your both the internal and external IP addresses. Give your friend the external one and have them connect. Check your router to make sure the port on which the camera runs the server is open. You can see the port, hopefully, on the camera's manual. What's the make and model of your camera? Goodluck! Jonas Lopez wrote: Got IP camera with eithernet connection behind Linksys 4 plex, but am not able to find the url to view the picture. I to on my mac and see the url and then phone a friend to tell them the url so they can set their browser to this url, but nothing works. Any ideas. I am not subscribed to a static dsl, so each time I have to look to see the assigned url. I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway -- G4 450 MHz box with OS 8.1-9.2, X 10.2.8/4.11. AGP Graphics on a card. Both are connected by 4 port LinkSys BEFSR41. 99% of the time I am Netscape 7.2. 12 Gb hd in 4Gb and 8Gb partitions and external 4Gb in 4 1Gb partitions. 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. === --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A minor tale of woe and ass-u-me ...
Bruce Johnson wrote: Ok, so this weekend I became an object lesson for y'all. A couple of months ago, I got a neat little webcam from Woot.com, the Clique Hue. I went to their site Bruce and saw some cute cams. I'm curious though; how are these connected to the computer. I'm not seeing any cable. Woot said 'Windows only'; box only mentioned windows, no one on the woot forum chimed in with a 'Oh yeah it works on OS X', but it was cheap, and many of them work with Macam http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/ So I got it. Checked Macam site, didn't work..Ah. I'll wait a couple months, try again. Checked this weekend, still no support. Hmm, maybe someone else has gotten it to work...let me see: Google google google. The company that makes the thing has a web site. http://www.huehd.com/ With a support section. With a drivers page. With a link to OS X drivers, which they've had all along, and were present on the CD included, if I'd bothered to look :-) Moral of the story: Don't always believe the box. :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A minor tale of woe and ass-u-me ...
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 10, 2009, at 9:38 AM, nestamicky wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: Ok, so this weekend I became an object lesson for y'all. A couple of months ago, I got a neat little webcam from Woot.com, the Clique Hue. I went to their site Bruce and saw some cute cams. I'm curious though; how are these connected to the computer. I'm not seeing any cable. The gooseneck thingie ends in a USB plug, so you can plug it in directly, there's also a weighted base that comes with a USB cable, and a usb port on the top for the camera. Here's a good picture: http://tinyurl.com/aecrjw The camera is plugged into the base here. (the usb cable, which is about 2.5-3' long is the dark blob in the box there.) They exaggerate greatly, no way are these cameras truly 1.3 megapixels. I was playing with mine and at that resolution (1280x1024) there were horrible, horrible jaggies in the image. But the focus was sharp at 640x480and 800x600, and their 5cm to infinity focus range seems right, which will make them great for playing with stop-action animation. You'll need iChatUSBCam to use them with iChat. It had quite good low-lighting response, and a decent framerate. It was worth the $14 + SH I paid at Woot. You can get 'em at K-mart for $19, about the same price I got after SH. Thanks for the review Bruce...here is a camera I will pass on. They look cute though. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flat Screen Monitor
Is this not a PCI-E card? Make sure before you proceed. insightinmind wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:26 PM, smac0031 wrote: I looked up GeForce 6200/256MB on google. This appears to be a PC card. Is there a Mac Version. The price is right. I once burned a VooDoo 3300 for my SuperMac and it works fine. Burned? or Flashed? I think there is info on flashing a 6200 as well ... http://themacelite.wikidot.com/ Hope this redirects and helps ... always found flashing interesting ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A minor tale of woe and ass-u-me ...
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 7:41 AM, nestamicky wrote: They exaggerate greatly, no way are these cameras truly 1.3 megapixels. I was playing with mine and at that resolution (1280x1024) there were horrible, horrible jaggies in the image. Well, upon further experimentation, the jaggies were the result of two things: the low light conditions, and some peculiarities with their snapshot function. Here is a test image taken under better conditions. http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/hue.html (Student group had a bake sale this morning...) Bottom line, it looks as though the claimed resolution of 1280 x 1024 (1.3 megapixels) is based on an interlaced video signal. The snapshot takes one frame. The true resolution of the CCD is very likely 640x512, so when it's blown up to full claimed resolution it looks like crap. Their included video monitor properly interlaces both frames and displays it as a single image on the screen, so the OS screen cap looks better. Not exactly false advertising, but quite close, imo. It could also just be the Mac driver, as well. I haven't installed it under Windows to see what it looks like there. As a video chat camera, under good lighting, it's looks to be a good webcam...it's just too bad it isn't a USB2 camera, so it works natively with iChat. Until your last comment about USB2, I believed that iChat will only work with Firewire camera's. You learn everyday, if you're willing and ready to. Thanks a lot Bruce. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Mac Virus - Really curious
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Stephen Weber wrote: She might want to try a brand name antivirus like Norton or McAfee (If McAfee makes it for macs), I know McAfee for the PC scans before for viruses before installing. I use McAfee for my laptop and Norton for Mac OS 9. I have all the auto scanning and auto protection off for Norton, to save System resources. She doesn't. Both of those products are crap-piles you pay for. Since there are no OS X viruses in the wild, you're paying for protection from something that cannot ever harm your computer. I wouldn't let Norton's anything have a foothold on my computer... Come on folks, get with the program. Bruce has been talking about Norton, etc, for a while now. Come on people, let's put our mac hats onthe day I run an anti virus on my mac...well, I tell ya, something is happening to the universe. I simply won't. I this the OP should tell her friend to get Open Office. Ditch Word. As regards fixing the current problem...take the machine to someone who can start that poppy using a Firewire, get in the HD, delete word, copy the .doc files, install Open Office and let OO deal with them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A minor tale of woe and ass-u-me ...
Clark Martin wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:46 PM, nestamicky wrote: As a video chat camera, under good lighting, it's looks to be a good webcam...it's just too bad it isn't a USB2 camera, so it works natively with iChat. Until your last comment about USB2, I believed that iChat will only work with Firewire camera's. You learn everyday, if you're willing and ready to. Thanks a lot Bruce. The cameras in the iMacs and Macbook/macbook pros are USB cameras. There;'s a specific class of USB cameras that works natively with iChat. They finally developed the USB Video Class (UVC), a standard protocol for accessing video devices (cameras, composite video adapters, etc). I don't know what took them so long. Some version of Tiger introduced support for UVC cameras. A later version added support for them in iChat. So if you are using 10.4.11 or Leopard then UVC is supported. So any UVC camera can be used with 10.4.11. The problem is that a lot of UVC cameras do not say they are UVC capable on the packaging or in some cases in the manufacturers online docs. But most or all will say they are Vista compliant which is the same thing. Well this is good to know. Now I turn my attention to a video web server...where people can log in and see a live stream. Ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thermal grease?
mythmaker18 wrote: So, let me get this straight (forgive my ignorance. I'm used to the plug-n-play of the beige processor upgrades that had their own built- in heatsinks). If I decide to upgrade the processor in my Quicksilver to a later quicksilver processor (for example, putting a used gual 1GHz in a QS933 motherboard), do I have to apply anything to the two processors, since the heat sink and processor boards would be two separated pieces (i.e. you have to take the heat sink off just to get the processor out of the machine)? I wouldn't want to take a chance on frying a precious upgrade! Andy If and whenever the heatsink comes away from the processor itself; you add thermal grease before installing both together for use. On Mar 13, 2:11 am, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: PeterH wrote: On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:14 PM, technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote: Don't put ANY grease near your processor! A grease is simply solids within an oily carrier. Electronics grade silicone thermally conductive grease, Thermalcote, or equal, is fine. Arctic Silver claims to be non-conductive, but it also comes with a detailed procedure for application to avoid foul-ups due to over- application, which procedures are not necessary with a silicone product. Arctic Silver is also a grease, using the conventional definition of the term. If the Heatsink / Processor combo is supposed to use grease then conductivity isn't an issue, you assume the CPU and heatsink will connect electrically. If you don't want them to connect electrically you use an insulating spacer like a mica insulator. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: adding network printer
This may not be your server, but a lot of people have benefited from this. Goodluck. Perhaps you'd get more help if you name your sever and model here: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060404021600193 Steve R wrote: Short question: What are the settings in Print Fax for adding a USB printer on a print server? Longer explanation: Apple Help and google have been only somewhat helpful. So far, 10.5.6 + USB EpsonR220 (network compatible according to Epson's site) and NAS DNS-323 printer server with IP 192.168.0.125. The DLink web interface for the NAS/print server sees the Epson printer no matter which settings are in 10.5.6 Print Fax. Test prints on the Epson work. System Preferences/Print Fax/Add Printer I've tried various options under IP and More Printers, none of which work and most giving me a green light in the Print Fax window. I've chosen the Epson Stylus Photo R220 Gutenprint v5.1.3 driver when the generic was working. But... The queue always Stopped itself and the Printer Paused itself. One message showed accessing IP address port 631 so I opened that in the router. Still no print. Mention was made on one site that updating the firmware of the NAS (which I have done) will erase the hidden print queue folder .lpd . One solution offered by someone using Tiger was to create a top level directory on Volume_1, and call it .lpd but trying to do that gets me a Reprimand for trying. I tried creating lpd and renaming, same slap on the wrist. So what are the settings for adding a USB printer on a print server? Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: adding network printer
Glad I could help; if it works. If it does not, give me a clear understanding of your network setup and I may be able to help ya! Steve R wrote: Thanks! Great info with a few things different from what I had previously tried. Will give it a go this weekend, after I ensure enough beer in the house to mellow out my frustration, just in case ;-) At 6:52 AM -0700 3/13/09, nestamicky posted: This may not be your server, but a lot of people have benefited from this. Goodluck. Perhaps you'd get more help if you name your sever and model here: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060404021600193 Steve R wrote: Short question: What are the settings in Print Fax for adding a USB printer on a print server? Longer explanation: Apple Help and google have been only somewhat helpful. So far, 10.5.6 + USB EpsonR220 (network compatible according to Epson's site) and NAS DNS-323 printer server with IP 192.168.0.125. The DLink web interface for the NAS/print server sees the Epson printer no matter which settings are in 10.5.6 Print Fax. Test prints on the Epson work. System Preferences/Print Fax/Add Printer I've tried various options under IP and More Printers, none of which work and most giving me a green light in the Print Fax window. I've chosen the Epson Stylus Photo R220 Gutenprint v5.1.3 driver when the generic was working. But... The queue always Stopped itself and the Printer Paused itself. One message showed accessing IP address port 631 so I opened that in the router. Still no print. Mention was made on one site that updating the firmware of the NAS (which I have done) will erase the hidden print queue folder .lpd . One solution offered by someone using Tiger was to create a top level directory on Volume_1, and call it .lpd but trying to do that gets me a Reprimand for trying. I tried creating lpd and renaming, same slap on the wrist. So what are the settings for adding a USB printer on a print server? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!
MacGuy wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Menu Meters is one of my 'must have' apps. Bruce, I would really be interested in knowing what the rest of those must have apps are. Jeff I really would too..Bruce...what are they...make 'em 10downloading Menu Meters this instant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A minor tale of woe and ass-u-me ...
Edie wrote: At 6:46 PM -0700 3/12/09 nestamicky wrote: Well this is good to know. Now I turn my attention to a video web server...where people can log in and see a live stream. Ideas? Sorry, I'm a bit behind on this list. Consider http://www.ustream.tv. You can sign up and stream for free. We used our external iSight camera to stream puppies a couple of months ago. Got a lot of traffic using that site. ~Edie Thanks a lot for that site Edie. I may use it, but I'm also interested in an app I could run from my G4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: White MacBook Purchase?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:21 PM, MacGuy wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:51 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: I would almost go for a later powerbook I second that notion. Jeff Oh that's just wishful thinking. PowerPC is dead. Even the least powerful original MacBook was faster than the best Powerbook at the time. Unless they need something really cheap (and the OP is talking about buying a NEW macBook!) I would never recommend that people buy a powerPC-based Mac these days...we're at the end of the PPC line; there's just too much stuff that doesn't run or doesn't run as well on a PPC system. And that is oh so sad. I wonder if there is a place that keeps stuff that runs just on Power-PC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
Dan wrote: At 4:48 AM -0700 3/20/2009, artemis wrote: What I'm concerned about is this: When Mike Bombich says that CCC erases the target drive in order to do its thing, does he mean it erases the ENTIRE drive? Or will it safely clone to the vacant partition leaving the files on the other two partitions intact? For your purposes, you do NOT want to do a block-level clone. A block-level clone is an *exact* copy of your original - including any file system holes and bad blocks. Instead, you need to do a file-level backup - which CCC calls an Incremental. Prepare your volumes in advance then do the incremental then CCC will populate the volume, building a new clean file system as it goes. Also, considering CCC is installed in the Apps folder of the IBM, are there any issues regarding, basically, having this drive clone ITSELF while it's essentially the active drive? From the OS' point of view, there's no problemo. But some apps keep data in memory for far too long before writing it to disk. This means the files that CCC grabs will be a tad out of date. To prevent that, it's best to quit those app (eg: Eudora), as well as dismount any dmg volumes. If I understand the documentation correctly, it seems to say it can be done, albeit preferably during idle time. Idle is best, because you're modifying fewer files. If you want to speed up the backup a bit, btw, tell it to ignore Library/Caches and /private/var/vm/. Note the lack of the initial /. That's done so as to ignore /Library/Caches/ *and* all the caches folders in each user directory. - Dan. So Dan...what is it going to take to get you to list YOUR apps here...as I've been trying to do? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Multiple HDs in Sawtooth
Hurray...I'm going SCSI's on my Sawtooth...well, as soon as I get the help I need. I'm trying to figure out how to safely install more than a single HD in the Sawtooth. Ideas...someone here must have done it. This is a physical issue, of course I know how to hook them up...but where would I physically place 3 SCSIs and maybe an ATA as well. Is this possible? Thanks a lot! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Good news for those inter-pc-ial households
Bruce Johnson wrote: http://tinyurl.com/db2gxc IOGear debuts a $40 USB printer sharing switch that's fully supported by both OS X and Windows (requires 10.3.9 on the Mac side) Even better when you consider it's cheaper than the price of a decent print server. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Multiple HDs in Sawtooth
Mel wrote: Precisely as regards putting those SCSI drives in their own external case, with their own power supply. You can daisy chain them with a terminal at the end of the chain and the original connection to the UL3D or UL4D or maybe a UL2D which should also work. Mel --- On *Wed, 3/25/09, dc /dbc...@verizon.net/* wrote: From: dc dbc...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Multiple HDs in Sawtooth To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 4:53 AM You didn't say, but putting in 3 drives I'm guessing you are thinking of a RAID setup? I have a single 15K/15MB cache SCSI hard drive in a Sawtooth. Using a fast drive with a big cache gives a very nice R/W speed without going to multiple RAID drives. The big advantages are: 1) Less heat- fast SCSI drives get really hot and the case design of the Sawtooth isn't that great for venting heat from the OEM hard drive sleds. I put my drive on a cooler and mounted it on top of the optical drive, where the PSU fan can pull the heat straight out. You don't need Apple OEM gear, just buy a good quality LVD SCSI cable with an active terminator. 2) In a RAID 0 setup if you lose any one of your drives you lose the whole system. And if you try to cram 3 or 4 hard drives into a Sawtooth the odds are good that the heat will kill one of them. I had two 15K drives running as RAID 0 in a Digital Audio and, despite each have an additional fan, one went bad. I think it was still running too hot. Now with just a single SCSI drive it's been running reliably and I barely notice any real-world performance difference in the R/W speed. If you want to run 3 fast SCSI drives it might be better to use a card with good external ports, like a UL3D or UL4D, and put them in an external housing. The drives and the Sawtooth will run a lot cooler. On Mar 24, 6:08 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com /mc/compose?to=nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Hurray...I'm going SCSI's on my Sawtooth...well, as soon as I get the help I need. I'm trying to figure out how to safely install more than a single HD in the Sawtooth. Ideas...someone here must have done it. This is a physical issue, of course I know how to hook them up...but where would I physically place 3 SCSIs and maybe an ATA as well. Is this possible? Thanks a lot! I had not thought about putting the HDs into an external case, but would have to now. I was not thinking of a RAID setup, but may do so. I have the SCSI card and cable bought together from someone who had the lot in a Sawtooth, along with the same drive. I was not thinking about HDs getting hot, but that's a real concern. I'd hate for these SCSI HDs to go bad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
Clark Martin wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Expat wrote: Hi All I'm setting up a home server (Xserve G4) to act as my main server for data, itunes, web hosting and possibly mail etc. given the choice between OS X Server 10.4 and OS X Client 10.5 which would you choose? I think that the difference between Client OS X and Server OSX is that the AFP file server in client is limited to only 10 connections, and it does not support mapping home directories to remote clients. Under OS 9, File Sharing was always severely throttled in comparison to AppleShare Server. I think the same is true in OS X but I've never seen confirmation of that. As a file server alone, though it should work, and there are no limitations on SMB shares. Postfix and Apache are both present, so you could set OSX Client as a mail server and web server; you're also free to install other versions of those, which would not be subject to any OSX limitations. For Web I'd actually recommend XAMPP, it makes getting Apache, PHP, PERL, and Mysql all plug-n-play http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html We ue XAMPP for our production server setup for the College, it works great. My home server is (client) Leopard on a Digital Audio G4. I have DHCP and BIND (DNS) running on it and I'm using Webmin to control them. Webmin is an HTTP based front end for a number of server apps. I don't have an xserve but do have a Sawtooth that I'd like to put to use the same way the OP is desiring. I think this thread should be kept alive so we can all learn about running a dedicated server on OS X. I'm getting tired of the multi platform computing at home and would like to go complete mac, at least for most of the time. So, let's keep this thread alive! I'd like to learn all there is to set mine up! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 27, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: whats an iMic?-Jonas http://lmgtfy.com/?q=imicl=1 Did everyone miss the sarcasm in Bruce's link above? I've bookmarked it Bruce. I will be using it quite a bit. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: All the jumping around between top- and bottom-posting makes this impossible to understand! Either all one or all the other, please? Paul Maybe we should have a rule about this sort of thing I thought there was a rule. There are certain people who almost always post under. Bruce and Dan but to name a few. When I noticed that I was lagging behind, I set T-bird up so that when I click reply, the response I type goes at the bottom of the OP. I'd like to find a way to only respond to sections of the OT. I'm trying but I'm not good at it yet. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 29, 2009, at 3:59 PM, nestamicky wrote: I'd like to find a way to only respond to sections of the OT. I'm trying but I'm not good at it yet. In Thunderbird, in the compose section of the prefs, there's a selection to quote only the selected part of a message. I looked for the selection, but can't find it under composition. Thanks a lot! Mail does this by default. I don't have T-bird on my home system, I can check at work. To break up parts of an OP to interleave your message, Thanks Bruce...I think this is working. simply click inside the OP anf hit return a couple of times to open a space. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: pooched iMac G5
Sam Macomber wrote: *From:* Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com mailto:s...@macomber.com *To:* g3-5-list@googlegroups.com mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 3:15:07 AM *Subject:* Re: pooched iMac G5 Hasn't been moved from the desk since we got it new. Today was the first time it's been opened to test another RAM module in it, so RAM has been removed and re-seated twice now as has the power cord. Also after i sent this I let it sit, no power cord for an hour or so, no change. Tried it w/o the keyboard and mouse attached, no change(so power cord only). -sam On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com mailto:s...@macomber.com wrote: Thermal cycle loosening of RAM card or other component/ Dirty slot? Loose or bad connectors / cords ? Has it ever been dropped ? Can't say for certain with the iMac G5, but I've experienced some real weird start-up problems with G3, G4 and G5 desktop systems all because the MoBo battery (little 3.6v half-AA battery) had expired. As their life varies from around 2.5 to 6 years, it might be worth replacing before you try anything more expensive... It's a big watch battery type, have a brand new one in my car remote so I put that one in, no change just blue screen still. Also zapped the PRAM again no change. guessing motherboard at this point. -sam ...and lest I forget; you may also want to find the Apple Hardware test disk for your machine, and run it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: pooched iMac G5
Sam Macomber wrote: *From:* Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com mailto:s...@macomber.com *To:* g3-5-list@googlegroups.com mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 3:15:07 AM *Subject:* Re: pooched iMac G5 Hasn't been moved from the desk since we got it new. Today was the first time it's been opened to test another RAM module in it, so RAM has been removed and re-seated twice now as has the power cord. Also after i sent this I let it sit, no power cord for an hour or so, no change. Tried it w/o the keyboard and mouse attached, no change(so power cord only). -sam On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com mailto:s...@macomber.com wrote: Thermal cycle loosening of RAM card or other component/ Dirty slot? Loose or bad connectors / cords ? Has it ever been dropped ? Can't say for certain with the iMac G5, but I've experienced some real weird start-up problems with G3, G4 and G5 desktop systems all because the MoBo battery (little 3.6v half-AA battery) had expired. As their life varies from around 2.5 to 6 years, it might be worth replacing before you try anything more expensive... It's a big watch battery type, have a brand new one in my car remote so I put that one in, no change just blue screen still. Also zapped the PRAM again no change. guessing motherboard at this point. -sam Based on experience and not particularly on the imac, I will say you have a hardware problem. I always try to distinguish whether it's a hardware problem or a software issue first. Now having said that, the issue then is isolating the bad parts. Since you've checked memory, and perhaps dusted the memory slots. I will move onto checking out the video card, if it's one that you can remove, try another card. Open it up and look closely at capacitors; try to find one that looks different. I'm not sure, but I think it's the imac's---1.25 ghz---that have blown capacitor problems. Goodluck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
George R. Hozendorf wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? -Jonas There are many advantages. My two favorite are: 1. don't have to look at all the gibberish on yahoo, gMail or HotMail 2. don't have to open a browser to review, send, delete or etc. messages; new messages are sent directly from my computer. Once you try it, you'll never go back to checking your mail through a browser. Hozey OK. Let me pitch in, please. I use T-bird on my Pismo and like Firefox is eats memory...it's always up there with it. For those who use mail.app do you observe it sucking up as much memory as does T-bird. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade Question
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:39 PM, andre stark wrote: I have a very dependable G4 867 MHz machine that has A LOT of apps on it. However yo upgrade to FCP6 or even Imovie 6 I need Leopard on this machine. is it worth my while upgrading the processor and gfx card (about 500.00) or should I get a used G5 machine. Thanks Sincerely, André Stark President BlackShark Films Inc. 23 Chilton Park Milton, MA 02186 617-298-1591 (o) 857-544-3783(c) (360) 242-7648(f) http://www.blacksharkfilms.com blacksharkfi...@yahoo.com This is perilously close to the 'If it ain't broke' place. A G5 would solve the Leopard, leave you with your still functional G4 MAC. Sounds like a Win Win, to me. More like a Mac Macrimshot I think the advise here has been: go get a G5 and not waste money on upgrading a G4. Search the forum... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ANSWERED Never for this website IGNORE THIS
If it's Firefox you could try ToolsClear Private Data, or dig in after you've typed About Config in the url window; or whatever you call the place you type urls. MacGuy wrote: My wife when entering user/password for our bank website accidentally pushed the Never for this website button instead of the other button she should've pushed... Q: how to undo that little mishap? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail Delay
Dan wrote: At 9:04 AM -0500 5/5/2009, George R. Hozendorf wrote: Is there a way to set the time for a message from eMail to be sent? i.e. Write the message at 8AM but don't send until 2PM I don't think I've seen such a feature in any mail client. You can sent most to not send immediately tho. Or you could do a script... - Dan. If anyone here is running T-bird there is a plugin that does this. Good link, John. Maybe I'd finally get my fingers dirty with scripts now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Touchscreen mac
Can anyone here confirm that any of the macs, including powerbooks or imacs, could be fixed so you can use touchscreen? I read somewhere that earlier imacs could be so 'fixed'. True/False/Wishing --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Switching to OS X.3
Kirk Morrison wrote: Thanks, I will do that as it makes the most sense to me and as the only app is Open Office right now, I will just back up the Docs and my printer driver so I don't have to DL it again. Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:39:49 -0400 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com From: dantear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Switching to OS X.3 At 11:18 AM -0400 5/7/2009, Kirk Morrison wrote: My G4 sawtooth, came with OS X.2 and I found the right install of 3, I want to do the switch, what would be the best way to do it? Obtain all the necessary extension, plug-in, and app updates. Make a full backup. Boot on the Panther DVD and run Disk Utility. Erase your HD, zero'ing it. [*] Install OS X. Install your apps etc. Restore you user data. [*] This step ensures that you have a fresh clean file system on a known-good hard drive. No stray bad blocks hanging around, etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth I have a question after considering Bruce's suggest and that of Dan's. The question is: which procedure would reproduce his older HD in the new HD as regards his programs, files, etc, while also ensuring the OS files are as fresh as could be on a new install? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thunderbird from G4 to iBook: Which Stuff to Copy?
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: Stephen writes, Glad you like it. One thing you do have to be careful about is letting your Inbox get too big. I'm an email pack rat too, I still have some here from back in the 80's. And a pile that were converted from Rmail in Emacs on Solaris. Anyways, I just helped a user at work because her Tbird crashed - her Inbox just reached 4GB(!!!) so you probably have a ways to go! My Inbox right now is at 1419 messages... Oh cool, another Tbird user who is also an email pack rat! No, I don't keep ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE EMAIL I get, though. What I keep is: anything with valuable pertinent info I either need or think I'll need, as well as personal correspondence. Take my Macintosh folder as an example, which has subfolders for every LEM list I've ever been on plus a few folders for offlist LEM-Lister correspondences I've had: in addition to saving my own posts/people's replies, if someone ELSE posts a question to a list pertinent to a Mac I own or the OS I'm using whether it applies right now or not or I think I might need the info later on, I save it. I also save not only my own Swap List correspondence/transactions, but also all good/bad seller Swap List Feedback. Whenever I want to buy something on the Swap List and off the top of my head I don't know the seller, I look him/her up in my list! Now I know I COULD get rid of the subfolders for lists I'm not on anymore, but that's the pack rat in me: I don't want to! As for correspondence: I keep both ends -- if I answer an email, I keep both the one I received plus my reply. About 75% of my personal correspondence is of the brainstorming and troubleshooting variety (yes, even my non-Mac interests, which include microbiology, rat medical care, detailed writers' worldbuilding/critique group memberships/story exchanges, and, for the past three years, Sims gaming/modding/hacking). As to the 25% of my non-Mac-related email which is purely social type personal correspondence, I keep that because it's FUN, several years later, to go back and read some of that stuff (even from people I'm no longer in contact with) -- and some is sentimental (emails from/to my boyfriend: the modern equivalent of love letters I guess). None of this goes all the way back to the 80s though, but that's only because I didn't get my first computer (Mac Performa 475, OS 7.5.3) until 1995! Thank you for the tips about keeping my Tbird inbox clean, but I'm not just an email pack rat, I'm OCD about it (and the way I keep my Macs) in terms of being Supremely Organized -- if only I would trouble to keep my APARTMENT like I keep the contents of my Macs! Talk about a study in contrasts, though! I would have to go out of town for several days to a week (WITHOUT my iBook, that is, which ain't happenin'!) for 1419 emails to even have a chance to pile up on my ISP's mailserver. As it is, email gets checked several times a day. Of everything that comes in necessitating a reply, 80% gets same day attention -- the rest within 2-4 days. In Claris Emailer I set it up so that once I read an email from the inbox, it would automatically shunt over to a box called Read Mail. I dunno if Tbird does that yet (I couldn't find anything, but then again I'm still new to it), so for the time being I made my own Read Mail folder, so after I read my email from the Tbird inbox, I kick it over to Read Mail manually. That's one of the pains in the neck, but that does get it out of the inbox...and maybe I'll be able to make Tbird do it instead of me having to do it. Well anyway, in CE, once a week I'd go through the Read Mail and Sent Mail folders, switch the view to Date to From/To (which is Sender in Tbird, which does have a Sent folder at least), and file all the email to appropriate personal folders (I love the way my imported mail was handled by Tbird: not only can I do the filing in Tbird just like I did in CE, but I have it all in a main Personal Logs folder which I can flippy triangle up so it looks nice and neat!). So far on Tbird I've been filing daily, only because I still have yet to develop a system for OCD Email Handling. Then again I did say I'm still in the adjustment phase' with it. Probably I should just break down and go to the Tbird web site or click the Help, and see if I can find some kind of user manual pdf of sorts, rather than keep on poking through mysteriously on my own like I've been doing. I'm still on the G4 -- I guess I should finish up my Morning Coffee email, flash drive Tbird update over to the iBook (to include this and last night's emails), and make sure Tbird actually does send/receive email from my ISP on Tbird as well as it's doing on the G4 so far. ~Yersinia. Now that you have it going, and your excitement is so genuine, I can lead you onto some great stuff out there. Like Firefox, Thunderbird has loads of
Re: 10.5.7
On Jun 7, 2009, at 1:03 AM, Clark Martin wrote: It just shows they don't know what is happening inside So, what's really is happening inside of a Permission Repair order? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Lightening Season
On Jun 13, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Any suggestions about how to accomplish this better? Yes, buy a power strip. Disconnect the strip instead of several cables. Makes it efficient. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
Dan wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. Well that's fine, but my Pismo 400 runs Youtube well, way, better than the Ti G4. Stephen Weber On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com mailto:nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. I've had some Pentium III PC laptops that were equivalent MHz to G3 and early G4 Apples. It always bothered me immensely that a 700MHz PIII could play almost all video completely smoothly with an 8MB Radeon video card; and a G4 PowerBook with 8MB Radeon, or G3 700-900MHz iBook with 16MB Radeon both completely choke on even simple video, and coaxing any smooth video playback is a real chore. I used such a 700MHz PIII to watch the Beijing Olympics online via MS Silverlight (which has no PPC Mac port), and it displayed fine on my 40 Samsung LCD TV. Conversely, my G4 Mini with 32MB Radeon seems to stutter from time-to-time on lots of different video formats, and it's running at 1.58GHz, over twice as fast as the PIII. The bus width should double that speed again, so on the face I'd think the Mini was minimally 4x faster CPU/Bus, with 4x the VRAM, and 2x the RAM (1GB vs 512MB), and yet for video playback the PIII won hands down? What's the deal? Kris your case is sad, really sad. And I wish someone out there could explainwhat's the deal? I would think, being completely drunk, that a 1.58 ghz machine would beat a P3 machine. I do have a P3 laptop of similar specs like yours and never noticed this kinds of issues. And when I moved to the G4 from my Pismothough not completely yet---I thought all this kinds of problems history. I guess not. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamickynestami...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:01 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 6/16/09 1:28 AM, Po-en Tsai at poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: Or, like me, I would switch onto my Panther 10.3 partition, running Firefox 2.04 to watch anything Flash based. It seems to work for me, and Youtube works fine like that. Upgrading ram may help, with my iMac, I had 512mb ram, but upgraded to 768mb, which sped flash up a bit. Well, when I run primairly Mac OS 9 here with Mozilla 1.2.1 and Flash 7, YouTibe videos also ran very badly, too. I am a Beige G3 owner. I made a mistake saying it was 768, I actually have the ram maxed out at a gig. This is really sad. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: PPC, G3, G4, G5, Someone may have answered this, but which version, of the 7450 or 7400, should I get from RPM for a Titanium G4. I relent, I'd try this build and see if my horrible internet video playback is improved on this 400 Mhzm 1GB machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)
On Jun 17, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Ralph Green wrote: Use any flat IDE cable you want. Use 80 pin cables if you want speeds greater than 33 megabytes per second. I thought an IDE cable is an IDE cable is anso when you say to use 80 pin IDE for increased speed, what do you mean? Please expand on this as I'd like to go through my box of cables and pick out all the 80 pins and use them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote: Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual. If you're installing your OS with the disk, why can't people just simply use the advance install option and uncheck languages they don't need and printers they don't have? That seems simple to me. Dan, there was Monolingial and another app mentioned in this threadis that other one...name escapes...damage files as well? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cable Select OR Master / Slave in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz? (and DA Dual 533)
On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Ralph Green wrote: Yes. I should have said 80 wire. The connectors are all 40 pin. I usually save the 40 pin cables for older systems. But, it is good to know that you can use them for any parallel ATA drive, in a pinch. I help people rebuild older systems pretty often. To tell if you have a 80 wire cable, you can count the wires. Or, a shortcut is to look at one end. Count how many wires are in the width of one column of 2 pins. Look at the connector that plugs into the drive as 20 columns by 2 rows. If there are 2 wires for every row of 2 pins, it is a 40 wire cable. If there are 4 wires for every row of 2 pins, it is a 80 wire cable. Does that make sense? You could also hold the cables up against a cable you know is 40 or 80 wires. The 80 wire cables are noticeably different. Ralph...thanks a lot for that and this does make a lot of sense. Now I'd take the weekend to go through my patch, find the 80 wires and use them. This is great to know. As you know, I'd always thought an IDE cable, is an IDE cable, is anThanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Arrrggh! G4 dies from just sitting there?
On Jun 18, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: and waiting to get the stupid new media computer set up. Well THE Bruce care to tell us how he plans to setup a media G4. Some of us will ask; what would Bruce do? I have a Sawtooth I could use to follow... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Arrrggh! G4 dies from just sitting there?
On 6/22/2009 9:53 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 22, 2009, at 7:59 AM, trag wrote: Have either of you two considered MythTV? It takes a bit of fiddling, but you're both pros at that. http://www.mythtv.org Haven't looked into it in a while, but my old G4 just does not have the horsepower to do a lot of that stuff. Were I to go that route I'd build a small Linux box or get a Mac Mini to do the job. A future project. I second Bruce on this one, I think a Linux box would do just fine. I can't seem to find on their site though who it pulls video into the machinejust through the cat5? Or, does the machine need a capture card? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VideoLan has finally reached version 1.0.0
On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Dana Collins wrote: VideoLan has released version 1.0.0 of its software, one of the more robust and format inclusive video players for OS X. Too bad they don't have same for 10.4 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort
On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:37 PM, nburman wrote: It seems something is wrong because it spends 3-4 mins on a black screen, after the chimes. Here's the point that you go 'back to zero'. You open the machine and strip it, until you begin to enjoy it. Take everything out, put it back all in but only put in things that are needed for it to startsuch as ram. And check 'em rams too. Goodluck! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again
On 8/1/09 2:20 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Have you tried putting it back into the firewire enclosure and seeing if it still drops out? That'll tell you if it's the drive or something on your motherboard. Have you tested other drives inside the computer on the same ATA bus as the 750 that is dropping out? On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Bill Connellybillycarm...@verizon.net wrote: In my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7, my 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again. Details of drive: ST3750640A 7200.10 750GB Master setting and on last black connector of cable. Had this issue before ... wondering if its time to get a replacement from Seagate? Its only a year old, with very low use. Used it as an external FW drive, but reformatted and cloned all partitions back awhile ago for use as an internal drive. I've replaced the mobo awhile ago as well, and just switched in the Apple supplied ATA cable from another Mac, thinking it is a defective cable. New RAM tests OK. I hear a definitive multi/single-click, like either the DVD RW and/ or Zip Drive is shutting down, then I get a spinning beach ball ... then the QS just freezes at that point, or continues to spin the beach ball. Bill I'm very familiar with this multi/single click on my Dell. First I thought it was heat. But I went in there and moved drives around; changed jumpers is what I mean by that. Try putting the HD on its on bus and see what happens. I also thought my machine was short on power but it's happy after moving things around. My QS seems to function ok from a clone of the OS X 10.5.7 on an external FW enclosure. Having replaced the DVD RW awhile ago, maybe I didn't have it Jumpered properly? (checking) Ideas? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Be gone, Mail, be gone
Well, the last bit of feature that Mail.app has that I envied it when I reluctantly dropped it is now in T-Bird. You can now select a line in a long e-Mail, hit reply and the line you selected would be included in your responsenothing else. Now I have to find out how to select multiple lines. Wow. If you already knew this, sorry. But I'm so excited, I thought I'd put it out there. Oh, I'm on T-bird 3 beta3. I can't wait for the post beta stage. Beta works and works well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail directory broken? PBG4 10.5.7
On 8/3/09 8:14 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote: Does it sound as if my mail database is irretrievable? If you do find your database, move to Thunderbird. Actually, why not give it a try to recover your database? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail directory broken? PBG4 10.5.7
On 8/6/09 12:18 PM, Dan wrote: Many people like Thunderbird And I'm one of those people who even think T-bird beta is better than mail.app. Try it! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk specific / Install specific?
Bruce Johnson wrote: Absolutely. On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:58 PM, MacGuy wrote: Next question... can I use migration assistant to bring all personal files/folders/mail/music etc. from the intel to PPC? Jeff How about programs installed, would that work too? I have an HD with installed programs and I've lost their serials, etc. I'm asking here specifically on PPCs. I've not been blessed with an Intel up till now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using an existing FW 5.25 enclosure to hold 2 HDD
Mullin9 wrote: Is it possible to use an existing FW 5.25 enclosure to hold 2 HDD, I'll remove a CD ROM, and install 2 Hard drives, 1 master, and 1 slave , and replace a short ATA ribbon, with one with 2 HDD ends and 1 end for the Bridge board, and get 1 2disk splitter for powersupply. I cannot think of why this won't work. Try it, and if you're concerned, put some 6GB HDs in there. It's always good to have some handy...I have a few idling about for things just like these. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Migrating from Eudora ?
On 8/13/09 5:59 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: What, if any, are the advantages of migration to a different mail program? Try Thunderbird and you'll never go back. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Question
On 8/25/09 10:48 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Yes, it isut OnyX asks for my password Dan, I've been following this thread and I can confirm this bug, if you can call it that. I did the same thing on my Ti 400 last night, shut down, restart but Dashboard is still in the dock, and the blue icon, top right, is still there. I just tried removing the icon from the dock, no luck. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/28/2009 1:57 PM, Dan wrote: many of us just disable the indexing (easily done with a few commands in Terminal). Would Dan care to show us the commands used to accomplish this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
We accept Apple is moving on
...But for those of us who're going to be holding onto our PPC machines, as did those who held onto theirs before PPC, could we start a resource useful to make these machines stay current, run smoothly and efficiently? For example, it just came out of the OSX10.4 on G3 thread that you can turn of indexing and spotlight to get a much faster machine, as well as, install a better video card that stock on G3s, and I presume G4s. These are three good tips that could change the life of these machines and their owners. Could we pitch in similar tips and bits, here; everyone, and I will offer to make a file and post it in the files section of the group? This way there's a centralised place one could go to get this information; so it's efficiency for machine and owner. You may also contribute links. Just an idea --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice
On 8/28/09 10:52 PM, di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Something that I can use simple keystrokes for basic formatting. Install NeoOffice. When you need to use it, start it and go make coffee. Once it's up, it's not that bad. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/29/09 8:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: That's when I decided to place them all in the Privacy tab. Where's the Privacy tab, why is it necessary to put things thereplease expand. I'm on the quest to make my Ti efficient. Also, Spotlight has a terminal command to turn it off? I used Onyx, but would like to know the commands...care to share? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice
On 8/29/09 8:31 AM, diane wrote: Unfortunately I don't drink coffee, but I can clean my desk. I think you meant, fortunately. I check my e-Mails. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/29/09 8:32 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: So turning off Spotlight may not be overall more efficient. Well, this is sad. I was thinking that doing so would be one good way to run old machines efficiently. I really don't care about the initial indexing; I can go take some fresh air. Oh well, I guess there's no way out of this hog called Spotlight. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice
On 8/29/09 12:53 PM, diane wrote: Bruce rocks Like a rock band he rocks! I'm downloading now myself, but based on Diane's experience, I'd pitch in and say, yes, Bruce is a rocking, rocking rocker. Thanks Bruce, I thought OO left us PPC behind until now. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: We accept Apple is moving on
On 8/29/09 10:09 AM, Dan wrote: A FAQ could be quite useful. A wiki set up by LEM would be great. You should suggest it to LEM-Dan We are already making progress. (Sorry about the fonts Dan. Changed) Here's a link Bruce sent someone earlier today that would be useful in an FAQ or Wiki: http://mac.oldapps.com/ I'll forward my original post to Dan-LEM, as the other Dan has suggested here. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On 8/30/09 8:00 PM, Dan wrote: There are some nice widgets available. But I find the memory and lack of versatility to be a killer. So I try to find small applications that will do the same jobs Dan, since you've got the smart ones of us off Dashboard, etc, would you care to share some of these more efficient small apps that you use? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Posting etiquette?
On 8/31/2009 10:42 AM, Dan wrote: Bottom post? Only for people who want to re-read everything. That's not true. When you look at the structure of a bottom post, you'd see that it gives an idea, especially if it's trimmed, of what the heck is being discussed. Get yourself Thunderbird, it gives the option of a easy trimming. Here's how you do it: select a section of the post you want to respond to, hit reply and only that section, along with your response, will appear. The rest stays in the thread and those curious enough can go back and read the entire post, should they wish. So, yes, trimming and bottom posting makes sense. Mail.app also has the option described above. And I don't think Dan was being snippy about it. Go back and read the thread on this and there you'd experience impoliteness. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive
On 8/31/09 5:08 PM, Paul wrote: inding a USB 2.0 card (much faster) that lets you boot might take a bit of work. Paul, would you please say how this is really done? I know it's a complex process in windoze. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was is das? Safari in Deutch?
On 9/6/09 6:55 AM, Dennis Myhand wrote: English is just a German dialect Any academic reference I could cross check this with? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Shared Scanner over Wireless Networks
On 9/9/09 3:52 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: but the idea that I could possibly scan over a network device is attractive. Here's the article I found on this subject: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/03/10/how-to-make-your-own-2.html Thanks a lot for sharing , Kris. It's indeed a fascinating idea. And I will give it a shot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iMovie .dv
Anyone know how I could export a slide-show of pictures from iMovie in a way that the output would be .mov and in a size larger than iMovie's output when used: ShareQuicktime? Or, if you know of another option (free application) that will do same, please let me know. The output now discussed earlier is way too small when played online. I need a larger size in .mov format. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
On 9/9/09 8:48 PM, Dana Collins wrote: To our mutual dismay, the Old Mac Apps site no longer posts older versions of iTunes (Apple probably threatened suit). Anyone know where I can find older versions of iTunes? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
