Re: Mail corruption issue:? Testing Ram

2013-08-19 Thread ROBERT H. BAUCOM
It's been so many years since I've had a bad RAM chip … had to dig back in my memory. On my Quicksilvers, I found that sometimes a chip would not be fully seated in its slot. Check that they are correct and try it. If that doesn't do it, Pull one of you Ram chips and restart. If still

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-22 Thread Scottls
Also something you need to take into consideration is that the G5 architecture requires you to increase you RAM modules in pairs. Meaning, if the DIMM 1 Slot 1 (front slot) has a 2GB stick in it then the DIMM 2 Slot 2 (back slot) must also have a 2GB stick in it or the system might

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-22 Thread Ben Dinger
iPhone On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: Here is the link to the OWC webpage that sells 4 GB RAM chips for my G5: http://tinyurl.com/bnqxdyt The price ranges from $61 to $73 per chip.( I don't know why some RAM chips cost more than others--can someone enlighten me?) 1

Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread Tom
recognize or use 16? I heard that you can sometimes put more memory in some G5s than Apple claimed was the limit. Is this G5 one of those? Say I were to put 4 GB chips in four of the slots, I'd get 16 GB of RAM from those, and there would still be four slots with 1 GB in them. Would this Mac

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread Illirik Smirnov
in the memory slots, it will only recognize or use 16? I heard that you can sometimes put more memory in some G5s than Apple claimed was the limit. Is this G5 one of those? Say I were to put 4 GB chips in four of the slots, I'd get 16 GB of RAM from those, and there would still be four slots

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread peterhaas
recognize or use 16? I heard that you can sometimes put more memory in some G5s than Apple claimed was the limit. Is this G5 one of those? Say I were to put 4 GB chips in four of the slots, I'd get 16 GB of RAM from those, and there would still be four slots with 1 GB in them. Would this Mac

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread JohnV
--the program is frozen. I could sure get a lot more done if i could speed up that rendering, and some people tell me that maxing out the RAM helps a lot. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread Tom
Here is the link to the OWC webpage that sells 4 GB RAM chips for my G5: http://tinyurl.com/bnqxdyt The price ranges from $61 to $73 per chip.( I don't know why some RAM chips cost more than others--can someone enlighten me?) 1 and 2 GB chips are also offered there. At $61 per chip, I

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread Kris Tilford
On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Tom wrote: Here is the link to the OWC webpage that sells 4 GB RAM chips for my G5: http://tinyurl.com/bnqxdyt You're reading this WRONG, there's no such thing as 4 GB modules, this is for TWO 2 GB modules, a MATCHED PAIR (2 x 2GB = 4GB). The price ranges

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread peterhaas
You're reading this WRONG, there's no such thing as 4 GB modules, this is for TWO 2 GB modules, a MATCHED PAIR (2 x 2GB = 4GB). Indeed so. Manufacturers now specify the TOTAL amount of RAM contained in a RETAIL package. Example: a two stick package may be stated to be 4 GB, and the RAM

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread Tom
Ah, 2 X 2 chips = 4 GB. Should have looked closer. Thanks Kris and Peter. So 16 GB of RAM maxes out this G5. Still, that would double what I have, and if i were sure that the rendering times for Final Cut 5 would be significantly reduces, I'd go for it. I just got a Mac Pro and Adobe CS6

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: Ah, 2 X 2 chips = 4 GB. Should have looked closer. Thanks Kris and Peter. So 16 GB of RAM maxes out this G5. Still, that would double what I have, and if i were sure that the rendering times for Final Cut 5 would be significantly

Re: Max RAM for a G5?

2013-03-21 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Say I were to put 4 GB chips in four of the slots, I'd get 16 GB of RAM from those, and there would still be four slots with 1 GB in them. Would this Mac then recognize 20 GB of RAM, or only 16? For that matter, what if I filled every one of those eight slots with 4 GB chips--would

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-21 Thread Dan Currie
On 2/12/13 10:21 PM, Dan Currie wrote: Hello, I decided to add RAM to my sons, my old G5, It was running 4 GB, 4 x 512 and 2 x 1 GB in 6 of the 8 slots. I added 2 x 1 GB to the two empty slots and it did not recognize the RAM. I removed the 2 x 1 GB and rebooted ... I got the 3 blinks

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-13 Thread Lawrence David Eden
I had a similar experience with my wife's iMac G5 (2005). I bought bargain RAM online and the G5 did not recognize it. When I replaced the RAM with RAM sticks that I bought from OWC, I had no problems. If I learned anything from this it is that the brand of RAM is important. I was able

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13/02/13 05.21, Dan Currie ha scritto: I have since removed ALL the RAM and inserted pairs . I still get the 3 blinks no matter which of the old pairs I put in. I can not get beyond the 3 blinking lights. 2005, G5, 2.7 dualie running 10.5.8. I don't like to be the bearer

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-13 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 13/02/13 05.21, Dan Currie ha scritto: I have since removed ALL the RAM and inserted pairs . I still get the 3 blinks no matter which of the old pairs I put in. I can not get beyond the 3 blinking lights. Adding to my last post, take a look at this page: http://www.macintouch.com

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-13 Thread Dan Currie
Still trying ... frustration is high but forcing myself to go slowly! If success comes I will post ... any other suggestions are welcome! Dan -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-13 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: One of the suggested trick was the hair dryer one (it makes the solders contacts temporarily working). In industrial heat gun is just a super hot hairdryer, and Harbor Freight sells cheap ones for $9.99 that are hot enough to easily

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-13 Thread Bill Connelly
On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: One of the suggested trick was the hair dryer one (it makes the solders contacts temporarily working). In industrial heat gun is just a super hot hairdryer, and Harbor Freight sells

G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-12 Thread Dan Currie
Hello, I decided to add RAM to my sons, my old G5, It was running 4 GB, 4 x 512 and 2 x 1 GB in 6 of the 8 slots. I added 2 x 1 GB to the two empty slots and it did not recognize the RAM. I removed the 2 x 1 GB and rebooted ... I got the 3 blinks on the power button. I shut dowand retsarted

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I decided to add RAM to my sons, my old G5, It was running 4 GB, 4 x 512 and 2 x 1 GB in 6 of the 8 slots. I added 2 x 1 GB to the two empty slots and it did not recognize the RAM. I removed the 2 x 1 GB and rebooted ... I got the 3 blinks on the power button. I shut dowand retsarted 30

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-12 Thread Kris Tilford
My 2.3 dual CPU G5 is super picky about RAM. I had to reseat RAM and restart about 30x to get 4 pairs in all 8 slots to recognize simultaneously. It took hours. I got one pair to recognize, then shutdown and added a new pair until I got two pairs, then added a third pair, and finally

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-12 Thread Jesse StJohn
My 2.3 dual CPU G5 is super picky about RAM. I had to reseat RAM and restart about 30x to get 4 pairs in all 8 slots to recognize simultaneously. It took hours. I got one pair to recognize, then shutdown and added a new pair until I got two pairs, then added a third pair, and finally a fourth

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-12 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.?? Date:Wednesday, 13. February 2013 From:Jesse StJohn jesselorenstj...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com My 2.3 dual CPU G5 is super picky about RAM. I had to reseat RAM and restart about 30x to get 4

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-12 Thread Jim Scott
On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Jesse StJohn jesselorenstj...@gmail.com wrote: My 2.3 dual CPU G5 is super picky about RAM. I had to reseat RAM and restart about 30x to get 4 pairs in all 8 slots to recognize simultaneously. It took hours. I got one pair to recognize, then shutdown and added

Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??

2013-02-12 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: My 2.3 dual CPU G5 is super picky about RAM. I had to reseat RAM and restart about 30x to get 4 pairs in all 8 slots to recognize simultaneously. It took hours. I got one pair to recognize, then shutdown and added a new pair until I got two

Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5

2012-07-17 Thread gifutiger
Greetings, I recommend using applejack however be sure that when you do the install that you CHECK the box that says install memory test. Cheers Harry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular

Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5

2012-07-16 Thread t...@prismnet.com
What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. Also, what do folks recommend to test hard disk performance? I have here an MDD which has been working mostly trouble-free for years with 1.5

Re: Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5

2012-07-16 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jul 15, 2012, at 7:37 PM, t...@prismnet.com wrote: What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. I have here an MDD which has been working mostly trouble-free for years with 1.5

Re: Testing HD Performance RAM In MDD Under X.4 or X.5

2012-07-16 Thread Peter Devlin
On 16/07/2012 03:37, t...@prismnet.com t...@prismnet.com wrote: What do folks recommend to use to test RAM for defects in an MDD under 10.4 or 10.5. I guess I could boot into 9.2 and use the old standby, RAMometer. I use Memtest on my dual 1.25 MDD with 2 GB of ram and 10.5.8 - although

Re: Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-17 Thread t...@io.com
this was a Beige and not a Blue White G3 300MHz? The BW had four RAM slots, and the limit was 1GB as 4x256MB. I believe the max limit of any Beige is 768MB as 2x256MB LOW DENSITY DIMMs. I have often read that the MPC106 (memory controller/bus arbiter) on the Beige G3 does not support larger memory

Re: Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-17 Thread John Ruschmeyer
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:27 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: It does not matter whether the sticks are single- or double-sided. It DOES matter that the sticks are all low-density. 256 MB sticks which are high-density will report themselves as 128 MB. I suppose there are also pathological

Re: Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-16 Thread Nathan Templeton
Hey Anthony, Sorry for the late reply to this message. Do not know if you have found an answer or not yet. For the most part, what you have been told is correct. You do need low density ram for the sticks to be recognized. OS 9 will see 768mgs max with the beige series of macs. However, I

Re: Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-16 Thread Kris Tilford
four RAM slots, and the limit was 1GB as 4x256MB. On the Beige there are only three RAM slots, so to get a 1 GB to recognize, you'd need 2x256MB 1x512MB; or 2x512MB. This would imply that 512MB can recognize, so that would mean you should get 1.5GB for three 512MB, but I've never heard

Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-02 Thread anthonyschr
I need advice on upgrading RAM in a beige 266 MHz Power Macintosh G3. I understand that the bus speed is 66 MHz, and am wondering if I must then use 66 MHz memory. I have tried 100 MHz memory with mixed success. I've tried different combinations, and I know some of the modules work, but I've had

Re: Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-02 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 29-01-2012 23:49, anthonyschr ha scritto: I need advice on upgrading RAM in a beige 266 MHz Power Macintosh G3. I understand that the bus speed is 66 MHz, and am wondering if I must then use 66 MHz memory. I have tried 100 MHz memory with mixed success. I had the same Mac years

Re: Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:49 PM, anthonyschr wrote: I need advice on upgrading RAM in a beige 266 MHz Power Macintosh G3. I understand that the bus speed is 66 MHz, and am wondering if I must then use 66 MHz memory. I have tried 100 MHz memory with mixed success. I've tried different combinations

Re: Beige G3 RAM

2012-02-02 Thread peterhaas
The speed of the RAM isn't the issue, it's whether or not it's low- density or high-density RAM. The G3 requires low-density meaning modules that are populated on both sides by chips, 16 chips total. If your modules only have 8 chips on one side they're high density and should only recognize

Re: Question on RAM Sticks

2012-01-25 Thread QuoVadis
Quick tip: SO-DIMM is usually for laptops (small form factor) or computers that require it for a special reason (like the Bondi iMac). You'll not need those. Greetings, Eelco. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop

Re: Question on RAM Sticks

2012-01-24 Thread Brian Harding
Question: How do I find out what the PC-8500, PC-8800, etc. stands for and where can I find what PC- I have on my iMac Intel Core 2 Duo? http://www.everymac.com/ have specs on every mac, including memory specs per model. hth -- Take care . . . Brian -- You received this message

Re: Question on RAM Sticks

2012-01-24 Thread Jeff Bequette
out what the PC-8500, PC-8800, etc. stands for and where can I find what PC- I have on my iMac Intel Core 2 Duo? Example I copied of the lemswap list: 2GB of PC-8500 SO-DIMMS I want to upgrade from the 2 GB RAM I have now, but can't find out if the PC-whatever will work on my machine. Any

Re: Question on RAM Sticks

2012-01-24 Thread Edward Treen
Greetings all. Question: How do I find out what the PC-8500, PC-8800, etc. stands for and where can I find what PC- I have on my iMac Intel Core 2 Duo? Example I copied of the lemswap list: 2GB of PC-8500 SO-DIMMS I want to upgrade from the 2 GB RAM I have now, but can't find

Re: Question on RAM Sticks

2012-01-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
to upgrade from the 2 GB RAM I have now, but can't find out if the PC-whatever will work on my machine. A good place to look (and shop!) is http://www.datamemorysystems.com They're accurate (memory type and size) for all models of Mac I've ever dealt with. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona

PC133 RAM in 933 G4 Quicksilver 2002 (QS2000) -- just like they said -- no ECC RAM support

2011-12-29 Thread turn
I'm sure anyone who has experience with this will know this already, and many might even say I'd told you so, but I'd like to confirm that using PC133 CL3 ECC RAM in a G4 QS2002 -- DOES NOT WORK. I was suspicious that I might be able to use one stick of non-ECC RAM and then the other two sticks

Re: PC133 RAM in 933 G4 Quicksilver 2002 (QS2000) -- just like they said -- no ECC RAM support

2011-12-29 Thread peterhaas
Now if someone can come up with a hack to let me de-solder part of the ECC stick to turn it into a non-ECC... that would be fantastic! Parity will work but ECC will not. Also, the RAM must be unbuffered and not registered. Machines in the gigabit through Quicksilver era have just enough

PM G5 dual 2.7 RAM

2011-10-28 Thread John Carmonne
What's the most RAM that can be installed in a PM G5 Dual 2.7? I have 4 1GB and 4 512MB sticks at the moment and I saw some Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM ECC Registered DDR 400 (PC 3200) sticks. I want to know if I can install 8 of these in my Mac. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA

Re: PM G5 dual 2.7 RAM

2011-10-28 Thread Jeff Bequette
looks like 8gb Mactracker On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:13 PM, John Carmonne wrote: What's the most RAM that can be installed in a PM G5 Dual 2.7? I have 4 1GB and 4 512MB sticks at the moment and I saw some Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM ECC Registered DDR 400 (PC 3200) sticks. I want

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-22 Thread maggell42
ECC but still can't be mixed. On , John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. John Carmonne Yorba

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-17 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Uh. Yes. You are right, Tina. I bought the Mac Pro last summer, and bumped to 12GB, 3 x 4GB sticks. I was told to remove the 4th small stick to improve performance. On Oct 15, 11:51 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/10/15 21:11, Brielle Bruns wrote: Sticks of ram are done

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-17 Thread peterhaas
three stick speeds. Don't remember the url of the test unfortunately. A Google search for triple channel ram returns over 1,000,000 results that seem to say that there is such a thing as triple channel memory, I believe that is what is indicated by the DDR3 designation. Triple-channel RAM has

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-16 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Mostly I do a lot of burning DVD's and convert to MP4's Final Cut Pro in on the list also. I think a dual MDD will do that nicely:-) Jeff Engle Kamiah, ID 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-16 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Kris Milford wrote: John Carmonne wrote: I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. We may have discussed this before, but I think this is the model that you can upgrade to the 2010 firmware and significantly increase the bus if you get faster RAM? I think

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-16 Thread John Carmonne
as a MDD is, the only problem with that is Final Cut Pro requires Intel and 12 Gigs of RAM is recommended. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-16 Thread Tina K.
-- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Onboard graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-16 Thread John Carmonne
increase the bus if you get faster RAM? I think this would be worthwhile, the faster RAM is probably cheaper than what you're using now, and you'd be ready for a CPU upgrade if you ever felt it was necessary. See this: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/05/firmware-hack-can-transform-a-2009

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/10/14 18:52, John Carmonne wrote: Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. Whether Non-ECC memory works or not, mixing ECC Non-ECC doesn't

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 15, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/10/14 18:52, John Carmonne wrote: Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. Whether Non-ECC

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread Kris Tilford
John Carmonne wrote: I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. We may have discussed this before, but I think this is the model that you can upgrade to the 2010 firmware and significantly increase the bus if you get faster RAM? I think this would be worthwhile, the faster RAM is probably cheaper

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/15/11 7:44 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/10/14 18:52, John Carmonne wrote: Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. Whether Non-ECC memory works

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread Tina K.
On 2011/10/15 21:11, Brielle Bruns wrote: Sticks of ram are done in pairs if they use interleaving to improve performance. There's no such thing as triple or quad (unless its something non-standard and obscure). 4 sticks is basically 2 banks of 2 interleaved sticks. My un-educated internet

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread John Carmonne
On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: On 10/15/11 7:44 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/10/14 18:52, John Carmonne wrote: Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/15/11 9:51 PM, Tina K. wrote: My un-educated internet research revealed that three identical sticks ran faster than two, and four sticks ran inbetween two three stick speeds. Don't remember the url of the test unfortunately. A Google search for triple channel ram returns over 1,000,000

Re: non ECC RAM?

2011-10-15 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/15/11 10:08 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Mixing ECC and non ECC, when its actually possible, doesn't cause instability.It just means that the ECC stick won't use the ECC capabilities if its on the same bank as the non-ecc. Is there a rule here as to what type of application needs ECC RAM

non ECC RAM?

2011-10-14 Thread John Carmonne
Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you

Re: Problems maxing ram on Quicksilver

2011-05-10 Thread Albert Carter
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Problems maxing ram on Quicksilver Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any similar problems or solutions when maxing out the ram on an old Quicksilver. It's model M8493 running a 933mhz processor. I have tried to max out the ram to 1.5GB but when I

Re: Problems maxing ram on Quicksilver

2011-05-10 Thread Jay Smith
Theres nothing to say that both new stick are fault. You can run mem test to be sure Sent from my iPhone On 10 May 2011, at 15:39, mfarrell607 mfarrell...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any similar problems or solutions when maxing out the ram on an old Quicksilver

Re: Problems maxing ram on Quicksilver

2011-05-10 Thread Michael Farrell
individually try 2 at a time and switch the 2 that you are testing. Albert -- *From:* mfarrell607 mfarrell...@gmail.com *To:* G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:39 AM *Subject:* Problems maxing ram on Quicksilver Hi all, I was wondering

Re: Problems maxing ram on Quicksilver

2011-05-10 Thread Bill Connelly
On May 10, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Michael Farrell wrote: I will try the hardware diagnosis you recommended and try to find the link (I got this computer second-hand through work). I am currently running only two 512MB modules in the machine now and it has been stable except for maybe one

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-26 Thread crumvoc
Thank you to all! That makes me feel a lot better. I guess I'll just try to monitor in case of a fan failure. I really like this old Mac. It always makes me smile when I open the case and see the amazing interior. Giving it to my elderly parents and will try to teach them how to do email. I

Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread crumvoc
This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. I have reset PRAM, NVRAM, current firmware, etc. Also reset CUDA. Any chance that the PRAM battery might be causing this? Any other suggestions? Thanks -- You

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread Wayne Stewart
I have 3 BW G3s and neither fan ever stops spinning while they're powered up. I was under the impression that they weren't supposed to stop On Apr 24, 10:06 pm, crumvoc crumvoc...@gmail.com wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 24, 2011, at 10:06 PM, crumvoc wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. I don't think Apple introduced active thermal fan control until later in the the G4 series; the fans simply run all the

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 25, 2011, at 12:06 AM, crumvoc wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. This old computer doesn't support hibernate (safe sleep), which would be the only situation I'm aware of where an

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 25, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I believe the original poster is saying the fans won't stop when the machine is shutdown ... i.e. powered off. Not Sleep Mode ... Not Booted Up ... Not in Screen Saver Mode ... but, Shut Down. Weird. I think you read his posting wrong.

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 25-04-2011 19:34, Bruce Johnson ha scritto: I don't think Apple introduced active thermal fan control until later in the the G4 series; the fans simply run all the time. It's been a while since I sold my Beige G3 266... but I seem to remember hearing its fans revving up sometimes (in

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread Bill Connelly
On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 25, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Weird. I think you read his posting wrong. Here is what he wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut

Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram

2011-04-25 Thread Kris Tilford
On Apr 25, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Thanks and my apologies ... guess I got caught off guard with what seems to be double negative like techies ... I read it the same way the first time, and started at reply based upon the wrong reading, and only realized my error when I saw

Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?

2011-03-27 Thread Jörg Duurkoop
Hi Scott, PC3200 works but it has to be CL 2.5. Best regards, Jörg. On 26 mrt, 23:33, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 26, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Scotty wrote: I know all documentation I have found online says to use PC 2700 333mhz RAM with an MDD but I know some computers

Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?

2011-03-27 Thread daniel . stewart743
CL 2.5? Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:08:49 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM

Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?

2011-03-27 Thread Daniel Stewart
:08:49 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work? Hi Scott, PC3200 works but it has to be CL 2.5. Best regards, Jörg. On 26 mrt, 23:33, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 26, 2011

Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?

2011-03-27 Thread Jay Smith
-Original Message- From: Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:08:49 To: G-Groupg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work? Hi Scott, PC3200 works

PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?

2011-03-26 Thread Scotty
I know all documentation I have found online says to use PC 2700 333mhz RAM with an MDD but I know some computers will just downclock the RAM if you put faster RAM into the machine. Is this the case with an MDD G4? I have a lot of PC3200 DDR RAM kicking around and I am wondering if it would

Re: PC 3200 400mhz RAM in 1ghz DP MDD. Will it work?

2011-03-26 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Mar 26, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Scotty wrote: I know all documentation I have found online says to use PC 2700 333mhz RAM with an MDD but I know some computers will just downclock the RAM if you put faster RAM into the machine. Is this the case with an MDD G4? I have a lot of PC3200 DDR RAM

Disappearing Ram in Powerbook G4 15inch

2011-03-23 Thread Clmtyne
that there is only 1gig of Ram showing. So what happened to the other 1 gig stick of Ram? What causes that and is it common? How do I fix this? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs

Re: Disappearing Ram in Powerbook G4 15inch

2011-03-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
, but then I open About this Mac and saw that there is only 1gig of Ram showing. So what happened to the other 1 gig stick of Ram? What causes that and is it common? How do I fix this? Well the first thing I'd check is to see if the ram itself had come unseated; sometimes when it's not quite

Re: Disappearing Ram in Powerbook G4 15inch

2011-03-23 Thread Dan
fixing the memory problem (below). open About this Mac and saw that there is only 1gig of Ram showing. So what happened to the other 1 gig stick of Ram? What causes that and is it common? How do I fix this? Reboot and see if the gig is still AWOL. If it is, then shutdown and reseat

Safari and a RAM Disk

2011-03-21 Thread Dan
but not much performance boost. Then I tried using a small RAM Disk, 16 MB, and put the Safari cache there. hum! Interesting. Some pages now load much faster. And having that memory dedicated to that virtual disk really hasn't changed the performance of my already memory-poor machine

Re: Safari and a RAM Disk

2011-03-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 21, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Dan wrote: And to follow that theme... I tried a bit of an experiment the other day, with Safari. First I ran with its cache disabled. Interesting but not much performance boost. Then I tried using a small RAM Disk, 16 MB, and put the Safari cache

Re: Safari and a RAM Disk

2011-03-21 Thread dc
I'm trying it on a MacPro running 10.6.6, although I was hesitant to install anything with such an ugly icon. Despite that it seems to work. On Mar 21, 4:12 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: It works, yes. I've set up a 256mb one, and had it move the caches over. I'll see

I've tested my Ram

2011-02-26 Thread smac0031
I've tested my Ram from both dead computers and it's OK according to Tech Tool Deluxe. I moved the 2 gigs of ram from my dead dualie into this pokey 400mhz 100mhz bus G4. I tested the ram from the dead DA in this computer. It's all OK. I can't say what the extent of the damage to the DA

Re: Ram speed

2010-12-09 Thread JoeTaxpayer
John asked about running the 133 slower, not the 100 faster. The quote I referenced said that should work fine. On Dec 9, 1:21 am, Chuck deadke...@gmail.com wrote: these DIMMs are running at 100MHz (underclocked) so they perform the same. if you could make them run at 133 the CPU would  also be

Re: Ram speed

2010-12-08 Thread Chuck
, but usually less than 25%. to run RAM at 133 would require some MLB mods. if you enjoy working with surface-mount resistors smaller than a grain of rice,and soldering them, go for it. you must keep the CPU speed the same while increasing the FSB speed by a third. must decrease the multiplier. some

Ram speed

2010-12-06 Thread John Carmonne
Is there a speed difference or advantage in RAM speed between PC100 and PC133, I ask because I'm able to run 256 PC133 low density sticks in one of my Wallstreet PowerBooks that only will run 256 PC100 normally, it appears that the low density 256 sticks are the trick. Good to know because

Re: G5 RAM in a Mac Pro

2010-11-20 Thread Bruce Johnson
I always check Data Memory Systems. http://www.datamem.com . -- Bruce On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:41 AM, M Christol chris...@fuse.net wrote: Will RAM from a G5 work in a Mac Pro? I guess it's slower? thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: G5 RAM voltage

2010-11-20 Thread M Christol
On 11/19/10 8:49 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, M Christol wrote: I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated. In my experience, all computers that require

Re: G5 RAM voltage

2010-11-20 Thread M Christol
On 11/20/10 1:01 PM, M Christol wrote: I rearranged the RAM 2 original sticks in the third position are not working the new sticks in the first slots are not working. Basically, anything I touch isn't working :-) ok, Basically, anything I touch isn't working was right. reseated everything

Re: G5 RAM voltage

2010-11-20 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 20, 2010, at 10:01 AM, M Christol wrote: On 11/19/10 8:49 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, M Christol wrote: I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated

Re: G5 RAM voltage

2010-11-20 Thread John Carmonne
not showing up. My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated. In my experience, all computers that require matched sets are difficult. I've reseated and restarted my G5 perhaps 18-20 times before, moving the sticks in matched slots as required, but in different slots. As soon as the all were

G5 RAM voltage

2010-11-19 Thread M Christol
I got some RAM to upgrade my G5 2.5x2 I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. I noticed it's 2.6 volt the manual says to use 2.5 volt Is that gonna be a deal breaker? - xx 000

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