subject:"Digital Camera"


On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver
 I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital
 Cameras (both are the same model) so I downloaded Macam 0.9.2 (after
 searching for Macam OS X 10.4.11) and the Driver for that camera
 (SS702, got it from a link off this list).
 So far no luck. Image capture says there is No Image Capture device
 connected and Macam does not see the camera either.

 Here is what Apple System Profiler says about the camera:

 USB 1.1 Device:

  Version: 1.00
  Bus Power (mA):  500
  Speed:   Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer:Jeilin
  Product ID:  0x0227
  Vendor ID:   0x0979

 Here is the info off the camera itself:

 Model Number: 16380

 Sokar International, Inc.
 195 Carter Drive
 Edison, NJ 08817

In past postings on this subject (toy cameras) we've been calling the  
camera Sakar rather than Sakor.

Also, in the past you posted different Product ID# and Vendor ID #.

I think your two cameras of the perhaps the same model but DIFFERENT  
on the inside?

Camera #1 is Product ID: 0x905c and Vendor ID: 0x2770 Manufacturer: SQ  
(Service  Quality)
Camere #2 is Product ID: 0x0227 and Vendor ID: 0x0979 Manufacturer:  
Jeilin

For Camera #1, I don't believe it's likely you've installed the  
drivers correctly. These OS X drivers were very old, so they may not  
work in 10.4.11, but, here we go again:

The drivers were available here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit
 
 
After you expand the .sit archive you'll have a folder called 905C  
OSX10.1 in which there are two components. One is an OS X installer  
package, the other is a Quicktime component. You'll need to place the  
Video905C.component into the HDLibraryQuicktime folder. I don't  
think there is any ownership  permissions requirement for this, so  
you can just drag  drop Video905C.component into the  
HDLibraryQuicktime folder. I believe you'll need to reboot after  
this, but I'm not certain?
The installer package will install an application called  
MYDSC_905C.app. Install this at the same time you add the component to  
Quicktime. After you've rebooted, attach the camera via USB, cross  
your fingers, and launch the MYDSC_905C.app and see what happens. This  
should only work (if it works at all?) for Camera #1, the Sakar with  
IDs 0x905c and 0x2770.
IF this works for Camera #1, and the two cameras are VERY similar,  
there's a chance you could modify the application to work with Camera  
#2 also. To do this, you'd need to Ctl-click the application and Show  
Package Contents and then go the the info.plist file inside the  
application and add the new PID  VID to the listing. If you can't  
make the application work with Camera #1, there is little or no chance  
it would work with Camera #2, so this is something to think about IF  
you get Camera #1 working.


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Re: Digital Camera

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver
I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital
Cameras (both are the same model) so I downloaded Macam 0.9.2 (after
searching for Macam OS X 10.4.11) and the Driver for that camera
(SS702, got it from a link off this list).
So far no luck. Image capture says there is No Image Capture device
connected and Macam does not see the camera either.

Here is what Apple System Profiler says about the camera:

USB 1.1 Device:

Version: 1.00
Bus Power (mA): 500
Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Jeilin
Product ID: 0x0227
Vendor ID: 0x0979

Here is the info off the camera itself:

Model Number: 16380

Sokar International, Inc.
195 Carter Drive
Edison, NJ 08817

In past postings on this subject (toy cameras) we've been calling the
camera Sakar rather than Sakor.

So it was a typo. :P

Also, in the past you posted different Product ID# and Vendor ID #.

I think your two cameras of the perhaps the same model but DIFFERENT
on the inside?

They look identical. One has no stickers on it but the other does.

Camera #1 is Product ID: 0x905c and Vendor ID: 0x2770 Manufacturer: SQ
(Service Quality)
Camere #2 is Product ID: 0x0227 and Vendor ID: 0x0979 Manufacturer:
Jeilin

For Camera #1, I don't believe it's likely you've installed the
drivers correctly. These OS X drivers were very old, so they may not
work in 10.4.11, but, here we go again:

The drivers were available here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit
After you expand the .sit archive you'll have a folder called 905C
OSX10.1 in which there are two components. One is an OS X installer
package, the other is a Quicktime component. You'll need to place the
Video905C.component into the HDLibraryQuicktime folder. I don't
think there is any ownership permissions requirement for this, so
you can just drag drop Video905C.component into the
HDLibraryQuicktime folder. I believe you'll need to reboot after
this, but I'm not certain?
The installer package will install an application called
MYDSC_905C.app. Install this at the same time you add the component to
Quicktime. After you've rebooted, attach the camera via USB, cross
your fingers, and launch the MYDSC_905C.app and see what happens. This
should only work (if it works at all?) for Camera #1, the Sakar with
IDs 0x905c and 0x2770.
IF this works for Camera #1, and the two cameras are VERY similar,
there's a chance you could modify the application to work with Camera
#2 also. To do this, you'd need to Ctl-click the application and Show
Package Contents and then go the the info.plist file inside the
application and add the new PID VID to the listing. If you can't
make the application work with Camera #1, there is little or no chance
it would work with Camera #2, so this is something to think about IF
you get Camera #1 working.

Well, I rebooted and Macam still won't see the camera and neither will
Image Capture
And for the record, my folder was called 905C OSX10.3
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Re: Digital Camera


On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:35 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 Well, I rebooted and Macam still won't see the camera and neither  
 will Image Capture

You're supposed to you their application, MYDSC_905C.app. If  
MYDSC_905C.app won't work, I think you're out of luck in OS X.

You should probably use a windows PC to use to download the photos.  
Once they're downloaded, it's easy to move them to the Mac.

 And for the record, my folder was called 905C OSX10.3

You're correct, my mistake. When you unstuff duplicates it makes the  
2nd copy with a different numerical ending. I stupidly created not one  
or two copies, but six copies, which were called 905C OSX10.1 thru  
905C OSX10.6. I mistakenly assumed that 10.1 would be the original,  
and the others were all duplicates. Interesting that when then  
original has a .3 at the end, StuffIt creates a .1, and then .2, and  
then skips the original and proceeds higher for each successive  
duplicate.




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Re: Digital Camera


On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:35 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 Well, I rebooted and Macam still won't see the camera and neither
 will Image Capture

 You're supposed to you their application, MYDSC_905C.app. If
 MYDSC_905C.app won't work, I think you're out of luck in OS X.

A quick search shows no such file on this machine


 You should probably use a windows PC to use to download the photos.
 Once they're downloaded, it's easy to move them to the Mac.

Tried on a library computer. I believe the required reboot of the
machine dletes any changes or additions you make


 And for the record, my folder was called 905C OSX10.3

 You're correct, my mistake. When you unstuff duplicates it makes the
 2nd copy with a different numerical ending. I stupidly created not one
 or two copies, but six copies, which were called 905C OSX10.1 thru
 905C OSX10.6. I mistakenly assumed that 10.1 would be the original,
 and the others were all duplicates. Interesting that when then
 original has a .3 at the end, StuffIt creates a .1, and then .2, and
 then skips the original and proceeds higher for each successive
 duplicate.




 




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Re: Digital Camera



On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:23 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 A quick search shows no such file on this machine

Did you install the package 905_050506.pkg? You double click the  
package to start Installer, and then type your password when asked. It  
doesn't install the app into the Applications folder, it appears it's  
placed at the root level of the HD.

 Tried on a library computer. I believe the required reboot of the
 machine deletes any changes or additions you make.

You won't be able to use a library computer, it'll need install the  
Windows software for the camera, and libraries won't allow that.  
Honestly, I'd think about a different camera. If you have photos on  
the cameras that you need to get off, find a PC, install the Windows  
drivers, and download the photos. If you don't have the Windows  
drivers, you'll have to locate them first (could be difficult), then  
install them, then download the photos. If there are no photos on the  
cameras that you need, sell these cameras to someone with a PC, and  
get a Mac compatible camera (almost any camera).

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Re: Digital Camera


On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:


 On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:23 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 A quick search shows no such file on this machine

 Did you install the package 905_050506.pkg? You double click the
 package to start Installer, and then type your password when asked. It
 doesn't install the app into the Applications folder, it appears it's
 placed at the root level of the HD.

Yes.
I used Spotlight to search and then I tried using Find
Neither showed it at all

 Tried on a library computer. I believe the required reboot of the
 machine deletes any changes or additions you make.

 You won't be able to use a library computer, it'll need install the
 Windows software for the camera, and libraries won't allow that.
 Honestly, I'd think about a different camera. If you have photos on
 the cameras that you need to get off, find a PC, install the Windows
 drivers, and download the photos. If you don't have the Windows
 drivers, you'll have to locate them first (could be difficult), then
 install them, then download the photos. If there are no photos on the
 cameras that you need, sell these cameras to someone with a PC, and
 get a Mac compatible camera (almost any camera).

I have 2 other cameras.
I just had these first and I took some pics with them.
And the library computers will let you install stuff, but when you
have to do a required Reboot it then deletes anything that was
installed (even Java updates that it prompts you to install)


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The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
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Re: Digital Camera


On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:58 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 Yes.
 I used Spotlight to search and then I tried using Find
 Neither showed it at all

When you use Find, you need to add System Files include and then  
you'll find it in SystemLibraryImage CaptureDevices. If the other  
QuickTime component is in place, it looks like this is a plugin for  
Image Capture. Also, in the original folder, perhaps that small 4k  
file needs to go into the LibraryQuicktime folder also?

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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-06 Thread Bill Connelly



On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:


 Hey Stephen,
 I had this same problem and I had no luck at all so I just went  
 out and bought one of those devices you plug the card into and plug  
 that into the computer to get the pictures... It has slots in it for  
 every type of card (flashcard, SD and SD mini etc etc etc) !!!   
 CoolKat


Like a Kodak 6-In-One, laying around here somewhere ...

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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-06 Thread Richard Gerome


Hey Stephen,
 I had this same problem and I had no luck at all so I just went out and 
bought one of those devices you plug the card into and plug that into the 
computer to get the pictures... It has slots in it for every type of card 
(flashcard, SD and SD mini etc etc etc) !!!  CoolKat




-Original Message-
From: Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com
Sent: Sep 6, 2009 12:19 AM
To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Digital Camera


OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver
I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital
Cameras (both are the same model) so I downloaded Macam 0.9.2 (after
searching for Macam OS X 10.4.11) and the Driver for that camera
(SS702, got it from a link off this list).
So far no luck. Image capture says there is No Image Capture device
connected and Macam does not see the camera either.

Here is what Apple System Profiler says about the camera:

USB 1.1 Device:

  Version: 1.00
  Bus Power (mA):  500
  Speed:   Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer:Jeilin
  Product ID:  0x0227
  Vendor ID:   0x0979


Here is the info off the camera itself:

Model Number: 16380

Sokar International, Inc.
195 Carter Drive
Edison, NJ 08817

-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
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   - Capt. Henry Gloval


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Re: Digital Camera


On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote:


 On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:


 Hey Stephen,
     I had this same problem and I had no luck at all so I just went
 out and bought one of those devices you plug the card into and plug
 that into the computer to get the pictures... It has slots in it for
 every type of card (flashcard, SD and SD mini etc etc etc) !!!
 CoolKat


 Like a Kodak 6-In-One, laying around here somewhere ...
I don't see a card on this camera.
There are two doors you openone for the batteries and one for the
USB hook-up


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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-06 Thread Dan


At 11:19 PM -0500 9/5/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote:
OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver
I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital
Cameras (both are the same model)

Set the cameras to act like mountable hard drives (disk mode, some 
call it), then use an app such as GraphicConverter to grab things off 
it.

- Dan.
-- 
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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-06 Thread Richard Gerome

Check the manual or if you don't have one go to the manufactures website and 
see if you can download one on a pdf file by doing a search with the model#??? 
It could be an old camera and it might be built in and can not be removed...   
CoolKat

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Sent: Sep 6, 2009 11:35 AM
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Digital Camera

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:

 Hey Stephen,
     I had this same problem and I had no luck at all so I just went
 out and bought one of those devices you plug the card into and plug
 that into the computer to get the pictures... It has slots in it for
 every type of card (flashcard, SD and SD mini etc etc etc) !!!
 CoolKat

 Like a Kodak 6-In-One, laying around here somewhere ...
I don't see a card on this camera.
There are two doors you openone for the batteries and one for the
USB hook-up

-- 
Steve Conrad
Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-06 Thread WhyOSX


IMO the GraphicConverter is one of the best apps ever (I use it since a version 
1.7.6 appeared in ~1994).
With 5.9.3 it got so many functions, it is nearly as useful as Photoshop.
It is loaded much faster and: look at the pricing.
A Version 6.something is also available for a few dollars.
There are updates every few weeks.
And it is better than iPhoto anyway (i hated iPhoto the first moment I used it).

Use a simple card reader if you can't attach the camera directly.
Maybe there is some dirt or corrosion in the cameras slots.
Lars


At 11:19 PM -0500 9/5/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote:
OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver
I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital
Cameras (both are the same model)

Set the cameras to act like mountable hard drives (disk mode, some 
call it), then use an app such as GraphicConverter to grab things off 
it.

- Dan.

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Re: Digital Camera


 I had this same problem and I had no luck at all so I just went
 out and bought one of those devices you plug the card into and plug
 that into the computer to get the pictures... It has slots in it for
 every type of card (flashcard, SD and SD mini etc etc etc) !!!

 Like a Kodak 6-In-One, laying around here somewhere ...

If you'd been following this topic since it's inception over two years  
ago, July 2007, you'd know that Stephen's camera (now two cameras)  
don't have any removable memory cards. These are toy cameras sold as  
Crayola, or Disney, etc. The only way to get anything off the  
camera is via USB cable. He'll either need to get the OS X software  
working (for one of these two cameras), or find a PC to install the  
Windows software onto.


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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-06 Thread WhyOSX


Oh, I'm quite new to this group (just a few days).
And I don't know that camera model.
I wanted to help...
Try out Dan's recommendation of the GraphicConverter.
On the other hand there are acceptable digicams for less than U$ 100.
Depends on yout personal pretension.
Lars


 I had this same problem and I had no luck at all so I just went
 out and bought one of those devices you plug the card into and plug
 that into the computer to get the pictures... It has slots in it for
 every type of card (flashcard, SD and SD mini etc etc etc) !!!

 Like a Kodak 6-In-One, laying around here somewhere ...

If you'd been following this topic since it's inception over two years  
ago, July 2007, you'd know that Stephen's camera (now two cameras)  
don't have any removable memory cards. These are toy cameras sold as  
Crayola, or Disney, etc. The only way to get anything off the  
camera is via USB cable. He'll either need to get the OS X software  
working (for one of these two cameras), or find a PC to install the  
Windows software onto.

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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-06 Thread J.M.P.Hissel


On 06-09-2009 21:14, Kris Tilford, ktilfo...@cox.net, wrote:

 If you'd been following this topic since it's inception over two years
 ago, July 2007, you'd know that Stephen's camera (now two cameras)
 don't have any removable memory cards. These are toy cameras sold as
 Crayola, or Disney, etc. The only way to get anything off the
 camera is via USB cable. He'll either need to get the OS X software
 working (for one of these two cameras), or find a PC to install the
 Windows software onto.

Well, I don't know this cameras, never seen in Europe! But I met this kind
of troubles before and I believe this was one of the seldom reasons I had to
start my Win.PC (XP Pro) with PC Inspector (free). It even works with one of
these first Sony cameras with floppies.
Never found such a good and free app. for Macs. You can find it at:
http://www.pcinspector.de/

HTTH,

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Digital Camera

2009-09-05 Thread Stephen Conrad


OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver
I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital
Cameras (both are the same model) so I downloaded Macam 0.9.2 (after
searching for Macam OS X 10.4.11) and the Driver for that camera
(SS702, got it from a link off this list).
So far no luck. Image capture says there is No Image Capture device
connected and Macam does not see the camera either.

Here is what Apple System Profiler says about the camera:

USB 1.1 Device:

  Version:  1.00
  Bus Power (mA):   500
  Speed:Up to 12 Mb/sec
  Manufacturer: Jeilin
  Product ID:   0x0227
  Vendor ID:0x0979


Here is the info off the camera itself:

Model Number: 16380

Sokar International, Inc.
195 Carter Drive
Edison, NJ 08817

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Re: Digital Camera

2009-09-05 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote:


 OK, I am now using OS X 10.4.11 on a Quicksilver
 I thought I'd try again to se if I could access 2 older Digital
 Cameras (both are the same model) so I downloaded Macam 0.9.2 (after
 searching for Macam OS X 10.4.11) and the Driver for that camera
 (SS702, got it from a link off this list).
 So far no luck. Image capture says there is No Image Capture device
 connected and Macam does not see the camera either.

 ___


Just throwing out random thought FWIW Ok?

Does the cam have a removable card? If you take it out does iASP say the
same thing?  If so; Dirty card edge or slot?

If ASP sees the cam why does it  ( OS X ) not *go* to the cam?

H!?  Cable dirty on 1 connector only?  Try cleaning all USB Ports and
both ends of cable?

Or;

Worn or frayed cable? Interior wear or breakage unseen from outside. Try
connecting other device with that cable? See if *IT* works.

Is the camera battery fully charged? Mine won't transfer pics without full
battery power.
Dirty battery terminals.

I would love to know if any of my guesses are correct.

Good luck,

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Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question

2009-07-14 Thread Bruce Johnson



On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


 Just select New movie recording in the edit column - wait a  
 second, and
 see if the upcoming movie window is actively viewing. Worked with  
 my little
 Dynex with no drivers at all.
 HTH,
 Dana

 No such entry under QuickTime's EDIT column.



You only get this with Quicktime Pro, and possibly the Macam QT driver.

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Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question

2009-07-14 Thread Dana Collins



On 7/13/09 10:58 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent

 
 On 7/13/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 On 7/12/09 4:17 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent
 
 
 On 7/12/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 On 7/12/09 3:57 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent
 
 
 On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam
 0.9.2.
 Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it.
 How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm
 that I want to share with family and the local news.
 
 
 Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app?
 
 I just did
 No Image Capture Device Connected
 
 Does QuickTime give you the same response, by chance?
 Dana
 
 Never thought to try QuickTime
 How would it see the camera?
 
 Just select New movie recording in the edit column - wait a second, and
 see if the upcoming movie window is actively viewing. Worked with my little
 Dynex with no drivers at all.
 HTH,
 Dana
 
 No such entry under QuickTime's EDIT column.

Hi Stephen,
Sorry, it was a presumption on my part; to record in QuickTime, you need the
$29.95 QT Pro version. Your basic reader/player would not have record
options enabled. Do you have QT Pro or just basic?
Dana



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Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question

2009-07-13 Thread Dana Collins


On 7/12/09 4:17 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent

 
 On 7/12/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 On 7/12/09 3:57 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent
 
 
 On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2.
 Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it.
 How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm
 that I want to share with family and the local news.
 
 
 Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app?
 
 I just did
 No Image Capture Device Connected
 
 Does QuickTime give you the same response, by chance?
 Dana
 
 Never thought to try QuickTime
 How would it see the camera?

Just select New movie recording in the edit column - wait a second, and
see if the upcoming movie window is actively viewing. Worked with my little
Dynex with no drivers at all.
HTH,
Dana



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Re: Digital Camera Update

2009-07-13 Thread nestami...@gmail.com

Stephen Conrad wrote:
 On 7/12/09, nestami...@gmail.com nestami...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Stephen Conrad wrote:
 
 OK, got the drivers but cannot install them as this (damn) machine
 won't accept my password for installation.
 I KNOW the password for this machine (never changed it) but no matter
 what I type it tells me it is wrong (except for the Keychain
 password).
 How do I remedy this?


   
 Boot with the DVD/CD with OS X and change the password.
 

 I do not have the 10.2 CD
 I only have an earlier one

   
Try what you have, if it's OS X.


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Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question

2009-07-12 Thread MaGioZal


On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2.
 Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it.
 How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm
 that I want to share with family and the local news.


Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app?
 




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Re: Digital Camera Question

2009-07-12 Thread ktilford1

On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2.
Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it.
How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm
that I want to share with family and the local news.

I think I've found the correct drivers. You may have been able to find them
yourself if you knew how, so I'll tell you exactly how I found them so you may
be able to find them for yourself next time:

1) I identified the camera better. To do this I used the #'s you provided
36956 ($905c) for a Google search in order to find the Vendor ID # which you
didn't include. Normally you need BOTH a Device ID# and Vendor ID# to identify
a piece of hardware. I determined that the Vendor ID was likely 10096 and the
Device ID was 36956.

2) Using Calculator.app, under ViewProgrammer with the Dec (decimal) button
selected, I inserted each of the decimal IDs and then hit the Hex button to
convert them to the more common hexadecimal versions, in your case these would
be 0x905c and 0x2770. I then used the search terms 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh in
Google without the quotes.

3) In the Google search results for 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh the 7th hit was
for macam : Support Cameras for which I selected the Cached link to get the
search terms highlighted for quicker scanning:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=safarirls=en-usq=0x905c+0x2770+macintoshaq=foq=aqi=

4) The fifth row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpages list the
camera with your matching hexadecimal Device Vendor IDs and under Status
says depends (OEM) which means support isn't provided by Macam, but IS
provided by OEM software. In the List of Cameras above the chart, it says of
the 773 cameras in the database, 460 work in OS X, of which 401 work with
Macam, 18 with OEM supplied drivers (yours appears to be one of these lucky 18,
hurrah!).

5) In that 5th row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpage where your
highlighted camera is located, under the Model row, the any camera with
matching IDs is an active link, leading to this page:
http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/cameras/camera.php?id=364
Under the row Camera notes: it says:
Support for these cameras is proveded by the OEM. For example see:
http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html
BINGO! A link for the OS X driver!

6) Opps! The link is dead. No driver. Plan two. Go to the Internet Archive
Wayback Machine at:
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
and place the dead link into the Wayback Machine field and hit the Take Me
Back button.
Bingo! There are eight archived copies of this page representing seven
different versions of the page (the asterisk marks pages with changes from the
previous archived version, in this case, only one page is identical to a
preceding version). You'll want the last (most recent) archived page from Aug
06, 2007:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html

7) On the Aug 06, 2007 archive page is a link for the Mac OS10 Driver for
SS702 and the OS10 Installation Instructions (pdf). These Wayback Machine
archives sometimes don't have the attached files, but if you click these links,
you are in luck, the OS X drivers for your camera are archived, and will
download if you click the links:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf

There are also OS 9 drivers if you need them.

8) The OS X driver is a Stuffit .sit file, so this means you'll need to have
Stuffit installed in order to expand the driver file. Hopefully, this driver
file will enable your camera to finally work? I believe this is the third time
someone has asked about these cheap cameras, and the first time a download for
an actual driver has been located. Normally stuff archived on the Internet
Archive never disappear, but I'd grab these drivers and instructions fast just
in case.

I know this search process to locate these drivers was complex, but now you see
the process on how they can be located even when the drivers were deleted from
the original website over 2 years ago. Let us know if these drivers work for
you. Good luck!

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Re: Digital Camera Question

2009-07-12 Thread nestami...@gmail.com

ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

I think I've found the correct drivers. You may have been able to find them
yourself if you knew how, so I'll tell you exactly how I found them so you
may be able to find them for yourself next time:

1) I identified the camera better. To do this I used the #'s you provided
36956 ($905c) for a Google search in order to find the Vendor ID # which
you didn't include. Normally you need BOTH a Device ID# and Vendor ID# to
identify a piece of hardware. I determined that the Vendor ID was likely
10096 and the Device ID was 36956.

2) Using Calculator.app, under ViewProgrammer with the Dec (decimal) button
selected, I inserted each of the decimal IDs and then hit the Hex button to
convert them to the more common hexadecimal versions, in your case these
would be 0x905c and 0x2770. I then used the search terms 0x905c 0x2770
Macintosh in Google without the quotes.

3) In the Google search results for 0x905c 0x2770 Macintosh the 7th hit was
for macam : Support Cameras for which I selected the Cached link to get
the search terms highlighted for quicker scanning:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=safarirls=en-usq=0x905c+0x2770+macintoshaq=foq=aqi=

4) The fifth row of the Cached macam : Support Cameras webpages list the
camera with your matching hexadecimal Device Vendor IDs and under Status
says depends (OEM) which means support isn't provided by Macam, but IS
provided by OEM software. In the List of Cameras above the chart, it says
of the 773 cameras in the database, 460 work in OS X, of which 401 work with
Macam, 18 with OEM supplied drivers (yours appears to be one of these lucky
18, hurrah!).

6) Opps! The link is dead. No driver. Plan two. Go to the Internet Archive
Wayback Machine at:
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
and place the dead link into the Wayback Machine field and hit the Take Me
Back button.
Bingo! There are eight archived copies of this page representing seven
different versions of the page (the asterisk marks pages with changes from
the previous archived version, in this case, only one page is identical to a
preceding version). You'll want the last (most recent) archived page from Aug
06, 2007:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xsp/ss702updates.html

7) On the Aug 06, 2007 archive page is a link for the Mac OS10 Driver for
SS702 and the OS10 Installation Instructions (pdf). These Wayback Machine
archives sometimes don't have the attached files, but if you click these
links, you are in luck, the OS X drivers for your camera are archived, and
will download if you click the links:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf

There are also OS 9 drivers if you need them.

8) The OS X driver is a Stuffit .sit file, so this means you'll need to have
Stuffit installed in order to expand the driver file. Hopefully, this driver
file will enable your camera to finally work? I believe this is the third
time someone has asked about these cheap cameras, and the first time a
download for an actual driver has been located. Normally stuff archived on
the Internet Archive never disappear, but I'd grab these drivers and
instructions fast just in case.

I know this search process to locate these drivers was complex, but now you
see the process on how they can be located even when the drivers were deleted
from the original website over 2 years ago. Let us know if these drivers work
for you. Good luck!

What a fantastic help! Thanks...and I'm not the one needing them, but I
know now to keep the way back machine up front in my mind. And the use
of calculator? Who would have thought? Great!

Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question


On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2.
 Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it.
 How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm
 that I want to share with family and the local news.


 Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app?

I just did
No Image Capture Device Connected

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Henrietta, MO 64036

The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind;
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Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question

2009-07-12 Thread ktilford1


On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app?

I just did
No Image Capture Device Connected

Install the drivers first!:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702%20OS.sit
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806172233/http://www.spectraintl.com/xdlds/SS702_MAC_OSX_Installation_Guide.pdf

THEN, use Image Capture (if necessary, may auto-detect in iPhoto or other 
applications).


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Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question

2009-07-12 Thread Dana Collins


On 7/12/09 3:57 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent

 
 On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2.
 Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it.
 How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm
 that I want to share with family and the local news.
 
 
 Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app?
 
 I just did
 No Image Capture Device Connected

Does QuickTime give you the same response, by chance?
Dana



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Re: [G3-5]Digital Camera Question


On 7/12/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:

 On 7/12/09 3:57 PM, Stephen Conrad of khel...@gmail.com sent


 On 7/12/09, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7/12/09 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad at khel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a digital camera, Product Number 36956 ($905c), and Macam 0.9.2.
 Macam doesn't see this camera but Apple System Profiler does see it.
 How can I see this camera? It has some pics from our most recent storm
 that I want to share with family and the local news.


 Have you tried Apple's Image Capure.app?

 I just did
 No Image Capture Device Connected

 Does QuickTime give you the same response, by chance?
 Dana

Never thought to try QuickTime
How would it see the camera?

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Digital Camera Update


OK, got the drivers but cannot install them as this (damn) machine
won't accept my password for installation.
I KNOW the password for this machine (never changed it) but no matter
what I type it tells me it is wrong (except for the Keychain
password).
How do I remedy this?

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Re: Digital Camera Update

2009-07-12 Thread nestami...@gmail.com


Stephen Conrad wrote:
 OK, got the drivers but cannot install them as this (damn) machine
 won't accept my password for installation.
 I KNOW the password for this machine (never changed it) but no matter
 what I type it tells me it is wrong (except for the Keychain
 password).
 How do I remedy this?

   
Boot with the DVD/CD with OS X and change the password.


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Re: Digital Camera Update