Hi Tom.
I wouldn't go as far as actually sending the guy hate mail, and I confess my
wish that leasy fails was a little bit of bile on my part, however my
thoughts on piracy are actually serious ones, sinse frankly if something is
made unavailable, that is the time people are going to turn to
Lol, you could, obviously, but Mister Hard Gin might sue you.
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On Jul 28, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
can I give my q9 standard version key to people who want q9 but who don't
want to buy jaws and leesy?
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Of course its not fair. That's why we scorn the name of that Jaws fetishist.
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On Jul 28, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
but that's not fair! what if someone wants to buy the stand alone version?
now they cannot get it at all!
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If this is so, in fairness, we should think the same of him. If the flaws
in his thinking are pointed out to him, and he makes no changes, he's not a
good businessman, and will lose out on potential customers, and deservedly
so.
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I would sometimes it's needed. I will not be one to sit up here and
lie and say I would never. bhaahahahahah.
On 7/28/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
I would not pirate, because that is stealing. Period.
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All I'll say is that a non-gamer should never even attempt to actually sell a
game. He usually screws up and makes everyone mad in the process. Now, he'll
get fewer, I'm willing to bet, purchases of his Jaws-fetishist product than he
would have if he'd stuck to his element and just kept
I would show it as it is, honestly, pointing out the pitfalls, and let him
suffer the consequences.
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list
Dark,
Agreed. I wouldn't send the guy hate mail either, and when I did send
him an e-mail about Q9 I did my best to be polite and courteous.
However, I can completely understand the motivations behind some
others sending him hate mail or wanting to kick his door down and just
take the game by
If I am selling a game, and you get a copy of the game without paying me for
that copy, you have stolen it from me. That's piracy.
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From: Josh K
hmmm grand skeem of things friends will share books games and whatever
else they like.
On 7/28/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
If I am selling a game, and you get a copy of the game without paying me for
that copy, you have stolen it from me. That's piracy.
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Hi Dark,
I agree. Selling Q9 as a separate product might do him more good than
including it as an add-on for Leasey, but apparently he thinks
otherwise. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to care what we think and I
don't see that situation changing any time soon.
As for your feelings on the matter
but that's not fair! what if someone wants to buy the stand alone
version? now they cannot get it at all!
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On 7/28/2015 4:43 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
Legally, nope.
On 7/28/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
can I give my q9 standard version key to
Dark,
Honestly I wouldn't blame you a bit for doing that. I'd be perfectly
okay with you just wiping it from the Audiogames.net database,,
because the way I feel about it as long as Brian Hartgen refuses to
sell single end user licenses for Q9 the game is basically unavailable
for all intents and
Oh, look at what you just sent. You must be very brave. I'm not going to do
anything, but that doesn't sound like a good idea
On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to
interface with
I would think that he's shooting himself in both feet with this practice.
As for hoping that he goes bankrupt or anything like that, I hope not. I
wouldn't wish that on anyone. However, I feel that sensibly written
complaints are valid, and I hope that, eventually, he sees the light and
does
I'll bet that it has just the opposite effect. I, for one, would not buy
his package in order to get the game. The game may be thought of as a bonus
for those who buy, but I don't think it is enough of an incentive to boost
package sales.
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Hi Josh,
Yeah, of course it isn't fair. From now on if someone wants the game
they have to pirate it. Sad but true. There is no longer a legal way
to affordably purchase the game.
On 7/28/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
but that's not fair! what if someone wants to buy the stand
Hi Tom.
I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but
currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones pop
up, or in the cases of some games how people manage to acquire them anyway
even if audiogames.net won't help people to do so unless the
Hi Dark,
Fair enough. That seems to me to be a fair compromise.
On 7/28/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hi Tom.
I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but
currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones pop
up, or in the cases of some
A suggestion: If the game is available as part of a package that really
isn't usable to nonJAWS users, let people know that the game is available
for, then list what it will cost people to get it. If I can get the game
for $150, and I'm only using this as an example, I won't buy it. The
I would not pirate, because that is stealing. Period.
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- Original Message -
From: Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent:
|I bought Q9 several years ago, and had fun playing it. The computer
I ran it on isn't functional these days, and I somehow lost track of
my authorization key, so it's a shame I'll not be able to play it
again unless I want to pay nearly $200, something |I'm not about to
do. Firstly, it's
how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once
you take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your
wallet with money in it, therefore you no longer have the wallet or the
money I have it, I stole it from you.
now I buy a game. I get the unlock info and
Hi.
sorry for the late reply, my computer got a crashing error and I've been out
of circulation sinse saturday.
As to the game, no, you can run from the exe file, no command prompt
required, or at least I've not needed one at all.
Mining will be fixed in the future, though when is anyone's
Unfortunately from what I hear Brian Hartgen isn't willing to go that route.
Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message-
From: dark
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home
As I sid in that topic, I
It is true that new games will come
But with the number of audio games being so small, it's always a shame when
something is lost, this is one reason why justin Dobemire got such a lot of
deserved flack for what he did to bsc games, essentially making them legally
unavailable forever more
As I sid in that topic, I don't feel any animocity towards Philip, he
deserves paying for his time, but I do think this is a bad consequence for
anyone who might want to play the game i the future and doesn't want to
either by jaws or leasy, (which itself is not cheap either).
I do think the
Hi Scott,
Unfortunately, no. Philip has sold all rights and legal
responsibilities for Q9 to Brian Hartgen which means there is no
longer any way for him to sell single licenses through Blastbay even
if he wanted to. Brian Hartgen now holds all rights to the game, and
from what I've read on his
yes good argument lets keep it at that otherwise this could start
something bad on list that I don't want started. if you want to share q9
do it in private i think.
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On 7/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Josh,
The problem with your argument is this.
well yes technically the dictionary definition is right. but really all
this over a game? a $25 or $30 game? I can see pirating jaws its over
$1000 and not many can afford it but pirating a $30 game or even $70
eloquence really no need.
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On 7/28/2015 10:31
Hi Josh,
The problem with your argument is this. Regardless if you take
something physical or not if you take something that belongs to a
person be it an idea, song, a story, or a piece of software it is
still considered steeling because according to the law you have an
obligation to pay for it.
Hi all,
I was doing a bit of sound work recently, and started thinking about the tank commander sounds. Therefore, does anybody know where they came from/how much they'd cost to get a hold of? I've seen them used in a couple games, but have no clue
where they're actually from.
Thanks,
John
Well then he shal recieve my scorn for being a moron! Really, not selling
something to people is a great way to run a business.
Dark.
- Original Message -
From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:09
can I give my q9 standard version key to people who want q9 but who
don't want to buy jaws and leesy?
follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
On 7/28/2015 11:01 AM, dark wrote:
It is true that new games will come
But with the number of audio games being so small, it's always a shame
when
Hi,
Am playing adventure to fate. It's not too bad. Accept I keep having to go
into the same battle arina to fight various things. It won't let me pass to
the next one saying that the level is incomplete. How exactly do I complete
each arina?
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If
Hi Dark,
I sincerely doubt it. The way I gathered BrianHartgen's over all
attitude at acquiring Q9 is it was simply a business transaction no
more no more less. He doesn't have the audio gaming community at
heart here because he's not thinking about anyone's feelings, likes or
dislikes, and
Hi Josh,
From a legal point of view the answer is no. It would be considered
piracy to give your product key to anyone who wants it.
That said, there is a saying that fits. Anything is legal as long as
you don't get caught. Giving out your key would not technically be
legal or ethical, but as
Hi Dark,
Not sure I'd go as far to call Brian Hartgen a moron since his reasons
for not selling Q9 separately makes sense from a certain business
point of view. As I understand it his entire purpose of acquiring the
game was not to sell the game but to use it to add onto his Leasey
product, to
Well Tom It's a great shame Philip couldn't sell his game to a more
deserving party, not that I blaime him for this Brian fellow's stupidity, a
very blind man indeed if he can't realize what he's got :D.
If this is truly the case I would not be sorry for someone to pirate the
game as has
There might be a chance of Phillip having your order details somewhere, but
I wouldn't bet on it, especially after a while. Might be worth getting in
touch though, just in case.
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From: Jessica |M misswi...@lorettotel.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 28,
I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to
interface with that Jaws-fetish software that I can't spell. Then buying the
thing wouldn't exactly be all that wasteful, although I'd rather pirate it to
try it out for 30 minutes or so just to see how mind-numbingly
Legally, nope.
On 7/28/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
can I give my q9 standard version key to people who want q9 but who
don't want to buy jaws and leesy?
follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982
On 7/28/2015 11:01 AM, dark wrote:
It is true that new games will come
But with the
Awesome, thanks for the info.
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From: Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 16:24
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] GMA tank commander sound library
Hi John,
I'm the person who edited and
Hi John,
I'm the person who edited and mixed the sounds for Tank Commander.
I purchased some of them from Sound Ideas, a company that sells individual
sounds,
www.sound-ideas.com
and I also got them from my sound effects CD collection.
Authentic Sound Effects, Vol. 2 cars and transport
Hi Dark,
Agreed. I wouldn't blame anyone for pirating the game in secret, and
no I can't feel sorry or any sympathy for Brian Hartgen if that
happens because its his own fault. Someone who clearly refuses to sell
single end user licenses to include it in a more expensive product,
something many
Well tom, good business practice and moron hood are not mutually exclusive
concepts :D.
Ultimately Q9 would do him more good as a stand alone program than just as a
little extra addon for his Leasy thing, sinse I suspect there are far more
potential Nvda, window eyes and supernova users who
Hi Dark,
Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. I've read his blog posts
regarding Q9 and he sees Q9 as just another piece of software to be
purchased and added to his Leasey product. Nothing more, and nothing
less. So he does not realize the value of what he owns because as
happens all too
Hi Darren.
Battle arena is all about the battles, there isn't any exploring or what not
(that will come in the next game, you go to the arena, and you fight, then
you go to the shop or vault and gear up or build new stuff). You can move on
to the next zone when you've completed all the
Well Tom, in that case he can bugger off as well!
Ive got half a mind to change the license type to unknown for Q9 in the
audiogames.net db and put a note to the effect similar to those on the bsc
games that the developer, ie, philip is no longer selling the game and it is
legally
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