Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
And unfortunately Super Liam and Judgment Day don't use name-based keys, so backing them up really doesn't work. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Stephen, Yes and no. It all depends on how the product key system was designed and weather or not they are hardware specific. Simple name and key systems, for example, will work on any computer provided the end user provides the correct user name and product key. Therefore, in a case like that backing up the correct registration information is the easiest way to insure the end user has a working product key when they need to reinstall, buy a new PC, whatever. If it is a hardware based product key then I would agree the developer needs to be able to provide new keys when the hardware on the end user's computer changes. On 8/31/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: Product keys change according to what machine you run it on. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, While I do agree Liam needs to get his act together about key replacements and providing better support for his games I disagree about him giving them away for free. He put the time and work into creating them so deserves some compensation for that, and as a fellow developer can understand why he would be reluctant to just give them away. That said, I don't really understand why he isn't providing better support for them. Yes, I know he does have a real daytime job which would drastically effect how much free time he has to devoting to supporting his products. Nobody can fault him for that, but I do think he could probably manage his free time better. I realize it is easy for me to say this, but I would think he could devote at least a little time to L-Works support rather than doing something else with his free time be it watching TV,playing games, or whatever it is he does in his free time. It makes me question weather he really cares or not. Perhaps, though, I am being too harsh. I just don't know enough about why he isn't offering better support to accurately make a fair judgement about the situation. Still, even if he himself doesn't have free time he should be able to find a trusted friend, relative, or appoint a fellow game developer to redistribute product keys and help manage the business end of things of L-Works rather than let things hang. Again, easy for me to say, but it would potentially be an option to offer his customers something rather than seemingly ignoring them. Last of all he could always write or higher someone to write some automated system which would ideally be the best way to handle support. The automated system would be available 24/7 and only require minimal oversight. That way he would be free to do whatever he needed to do while having an automated system overseeing the business end of the business. The point being here is I know Liam could probably do something, and for that reason I don't believe just giving his games away for free is the right answer. However, he does need to do something as it feels like a lot of people have been left in the lurch by his lack of attention to L-Works the last few years. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Or just encrypt and upload them to the cloud... there are plenty of ways to compress and encrypt product keys. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if they were written down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a record of them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out. Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register his games, like Aprone has for Swamp. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Thomas, it was a soney drive, my dad got it for me on the recomendation of his friend who has a professional computer business. Dad isn't very tech-minded, and the friend, while good with computers, doesn't seem to understand the concept of blind accessibility, hense he put avast on my computer, then wonders why it's suddenly full of viruses lol. I knew it wasn't accessible, but trying to spell it out to someone who is sighted and think they know it all is like pulling teeth in this case. oh it'll be fine, and if not, ask for sighted help grrr! Anyway, I decided on copying my product ids for my l-works games and sending them to Liam to see if that made life any easier for him, the id for Super Liam is now on my clipboard, but on being taken to the order page, i get a 404 file not found message, which I think means the link is somehow broken. Do you know what 404 means? I'll try anyway to post the id and see if I can awaken Liam from his slumbers with some of my demonic singing! :) From lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] a thanks for the recent code support
I'd just like to thank the folks who replied to my last code questions on the call stack. Because of you guys, I've turned what may well have been a show-stopper into a half an hour fix which has actually simplified a fair bit of the program in the process. I've also learned a good deal more about the stack itself, which is great in its own right. So once again, thanks for the help. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta (preferably 18)
Hi all, As the subject says, I'm looking to get a copy of mysteries of the ancients, preferably beta 18 if anybody has it. Its been a while since I've played, and I've been having hard drive troubles, so if anyone with a copy could get in touch with me I'd really appreciate it. I fully understand that the reason MOTA betas have not been distributed officially is because of bugs and a desire to avoid pointless emails. I hear by declare that, should I receive any beta version(s), I will send no such emails. If you have a version and are willing to upload it, please contact me off-list, as posting download links here may end up creating said emails. Thanks, John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: loriduncan Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 8:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if they were written down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a record of them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out. Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register his games, like Aprone has for Swamp. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Lori, Is it just Ebay you don't trust, or is it ordering things online in general? Even if you wouldn't want to use a site like Amazon, you could still have a look around on there at flash drives. Compare the descriptions, and see which one sounds the best to you. Then you could probably go to a local computer store or something like Best Buy to compare prices. I'm from the US, so I honestly don't know what the equivalent for places like Best buy or Radio Shack is over there, so sorry if that advice isn't helpful. I'd still be willing to bet that flash drives are as easily available there as they are here, though. And it really is true that the prices have dropped quite a bit over the past few years. Even smaller-capacity external hard drives aren't as expensive as they used to be. Either way, that won't help much with replacing your keys for Super Liam and Judgment Day, unfortunately, since those are hardware-based. But I agree that it's good to keep backups of all your keys and important data, so it can't hurt to have a cheap flash drive or two laying around. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
[Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened to Liam?
I taught myself to use one, and they are far more useful to a blind person than having someone else write and read info back to you. The method is very slow, but you can use it without sighted assistance, which means independence. Brailling product keys onto Dymo tape, which will not wear out very easily, can be done with a slate and stylus, a brailler, or a machine made specifically for embossing onto Dymo tape. Lastly, I wonder how many people caught the reference in the subject line. (grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: loriduncan Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 8:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if they were written down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a record of them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out. Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register his games, like Aprone has for Swamp. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Even if people added him on Facebook, it's doubtful that he would respond to requests for product keys there, either. It seems like people probably already tried contacting him on Twitter, although I can't swear to that. On 8/30/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: can someone know his facebook ID Thanks Ishan On 8/30/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I don't know, he was a good guy but I hardly see him his l-works twitter has not been updated in ages. And as for the 2 games I legally own superliam and judgement day I have given up registering them on my systems. In fact if he is gone I won't buy his stuff because I can't get hime to register anything even though I try to do so. At 02:35 a.m. 30/08/2014, you wrote: Agreed. I was asked to re-purchase Super Egg Hunt Plus as a gift for a friend as they lost the key. Fortunately I still had the key tooked away somewhere so not a penny was wasted and was able to give it them again. Strangely this game does use an automated system but not his other titles. This is nonsense to me because of inconsistencies. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 29/08/2014 01:07, loriduncan wrote: Hi, does anyone know whatâ EURO (tm)s happened to Liam from l-works? I am still unable to get any of my games which I paid for, registered. I personally feel he really needs to set up an automated key replacement service like some other sites have, if heâ EURO (tm)s too busy or doesnâ EURO (tm)t want the hard task of manually replacing lost keys. His games are of such good quality, Iâ EURO (tm)m sad Iâ EURO (tm)m unable to play them. I realise he has a life outside of game developement, like we all do, and I hope his real life is going well too.From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. /x-flowed --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Desiree --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_concept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened to Liam?
At least with a labeler it's not painfully slow. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 12:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened to Liam? I taught myself to use one, and they are far more useful to a blind person than having someone else write and read info back to you. The method is very slow, but you can use it without sighted assistance, which means independence. Brailling product keys onto Dymo tape, which will not wear out very easily, can be done with a slate and stylus, a brailler, or a machine made specifically for embossing onto Dymo tape. Lastly, I wonder how many people caught the reference in the subject line. (grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: loriduncan Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 8:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if they were written down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a record of them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out. Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register his games, like Aprone has for Swamp. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and
Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
Hello. I just tried to play this. My keys don't seem to do anything. The arrows don't work when moving through the menus. I'm using Windows 7 64 Bit. Do I need to install this in a different folder? I saw it told me to do something with my TTS before starting so I wasn't using JAWS. The Read Me file seems to have disappeared though. Where do I go to change my speech output? I hit f11 within the game and saw the Output is JAWS but the directions to cycle through and change options didn't work for me. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:11 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_co ncept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I was refering to Liam's system, speciffically, which I think if memory serves me correctly, is hardware based. At 03:35 PM 9/1/2014, you wrote: Hi Stephen, Yes and no. It all depends on how the product key system was designed and weather or not they are hardware specific. Simple name and key systems, for example, will work on any computer provided the end user provides the correct user name and product key. Therefore, in a case like that backing up the correct registration information is the easiest way to insure the end user has a working product key when they need to reinstall, buy a new PC, whatever. If it is a hardware based product key then I would agree the developer needs to be able to provide new keys when the hardware on the end user's computer changes. On 8/31/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: Product keys change according to what machine you run it on. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
If you have it, try using nvda instead, or closing jaws completely before you start the game. The reason you're having this issue is because jaws runs low-level code to take over your keyboard, and this code is preventing the game from seeing your arrow keys. -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:44 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Hello. I just tried to play this. My keys don't seem to do anything. The arrows don't work when moving through the menus. I'm using Windows 7 64 Bit. Do I need to install this in a different folder? I saw it told me to do something with my TTS before starting so I wasn't using JAWS. The Read Me file seems to have disappeared though. Where do I go to change my speech output? I hit f11 within the game and saw the Output is JAWS but the directions to cycle through and change options didn't work for me. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:11 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_co ncept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
That's why it is a better idea to completely unload JAWS before starting games instead of putting it to sleep as a lot of gamers do. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption If you have it, try using nvda instead, or closing jaws completely before you start the game. The reason you're having this issue is because jaws runs low-level code to take over your keyboard, and this code is preventing the game from seeing your arrow keys. -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:44 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Hello. I just tried to play this. My keys don't seem to do anything. The arrows don't work when moving through the menus. I'm using Windows 7 64 Bit. Do I need to install this in a different folder? I saw it told me to do something with my TTS before starting so I wasn't using JAWS. The Read Me file seems to have disappeared though. Where do I go to change my speech output? I hit f11 within the game and saw the Output is JAWS but the directions to cycle through and change options didn't work for me. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:11 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_co ncept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
Thanks. Before, I was closing JAWS after I opened the file. Following your advice worked. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption If you have it, try using nvda instead, or closing jaws completely before you start the game. The reason you're having this issue is because jaws runs low-level code to take over your keyboard, and this code is preventing the game from seeing your arrow keys. -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:44 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Hello. I just tried to play this. My keys don't seem to do anything. The arrows don't work when moving through the menus. I'm using Windows 7 64 Bit. Do I need to install this in a different folder? I saw it told me to do something with my TTS before starting so I wasn't using JAWS. The Read Me file seems to have disappeared though. Where do I go to change my speech output? I hit f11 within the game and saw the Output is JAWS but the directions to cycle through and change options didn't work for me. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:11 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_co ncept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
Glad to here it. I've spoken with the dev, and it looks like the ability to reset the screen reader that's being used from within the game will be added soon. This should make things easier if you accidentally leave jfw running when the game starts; you can just reset the reader and it'll fix the issues. -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:37 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Thanks. Before, I was closing JAWS after I opened the file. Following your advice worked. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption If you have it, try using nvda instead, or closing jaws completely before you start the game. The reason you're having this issue is because jaws runs low-level code to take over your keyboard, and this code is preventing the game from seeing your arrow keys. -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:44 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Hello. I just tried to play this. My keys don't seem to do anything. The arrows don't work when moving through the menus. I'm using Windows 7 64 Bit. Do I need to install this in a different folder? I saw it told me to do something with my TTS before starting so I wasn't using JAWS. The Read Me file seems to have disappeared though. Where do I go to change my speech output? I hit f11 within the game and saw the Output is JAWS but the directions to cycle through and change options didn't work for me. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:11 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_co ncept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be
Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
If you put jaws to sleep the keyboard unlocks and is useable. Also you can alt + tab to any other window and still have jaws usage without slowing down the computer. You do this by opening up your game and then do a insert + 6, the six key above the letters. That will open up settings for that program if no settings then hit ok and they are made to be modified. Now just tab 2 times and then go to miscellaneous, right arrow and there is your sleep check box, just hit space bar and then apply and ok. Now your game should play without problems. See it puts jaws to sleep when the game is played, and lets you have jaws for the rest of your computer without problem. At 03:44 PM 9/1/2014, you wrote: Hello. I just tried to play this. My keys don't seem to do anything. The arrows don't work when moving through the menus. I'm using Windows 7 64 Bit. Do I need to install this in a different folder? I saw it told me to do something with my TTS before starting so I wasn't using JAWS. The Read Me file seems to have disappeared though. Where do I go to change my speech output? I hit f11 within the game and saw the Output is JAWS but the directions to cycle through and change options didn't work for me. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:11 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_co ncept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Lori, What you call a memory stick are commonly called flash drives here in the US. Basically, it is just a long skinny plastic device with a cap on it you can take of and slide it into your USB port. To be honest I haven't paid too much attention to brands and just buy them based on price and the amount of memory available on them. There is another option available you might want to think about. You can buy a USB card reader which costs about $15, and you can put any size flash card in it which is nice. Of course you have to be careful with flash cards, but you can have several of them for a decent price and they are small enough to store in a desk drawer or in a container on your computer desk. Either way backup devices aren't that expensive. I don't know much about the UK to tell you where to get them, but I'm sure there has to be somewhere to get them for a fair price without going to Amazon, New Egg, or another online vender. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption
Cool. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Glad to here it. I've spoken with the dev, and it looks like the ability to reset the screen reader that's being used from within the game will be added soon. This should make things easier if you accidentally leave jfw running when the game starts; you can just reset the reader and it'll fix the issues. -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:37 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Thanks. Before, I was closing JAWS after I opened the file. Following your advice worked. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption If you have it, try using nvda instead, or closing jaws completely before you start the game. The reason you're having this issue is because jaws runs low-level code to take over your keyboard, and this code is preventing the game from seeing your arrow keys. -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:44 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption Hello. I just tried to play this. My keys don't seem to do anything. The arrows don't work when moving through the menus. I'm using Windows 7 64 Bit. Do I need to install this in a different folder? I saw it told me to do something with my TTS before starting so I wasn't using JAWS. The Read Me file seems to have disappeared though. Where do I go to change my speech output? I hit f11 within the game and saw the Output is JAWS but the directions to cycle through and change options didn't work for me. Any ideas? Thanks for any help. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:11 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] new beta: grave of redemption I just want to mention this new beta by game madness interactive on list, as its mostly being discussed on the audiogames.net forum. Its currently somewhat similar to entombed in gameplay, and is in the early beta stages (yes, this means crashes!), but its got a lot of potential, and at the very least is a distracting few minutes here and there. I've played it several times now, and only had one crash that wasn't explicitly mentioned in the game's manual, which I've never managed to duplicate. Well worth a look. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8252087/setup_grave%20of%20redemption_co ncept%20demo%20%281%20sep%29.exe --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Stephen, Oh, I see. I haven't actually gotten any of Liam's commercial games so wasn't sure if his keys are hardware based or not. So my comments were more about general key systems rather than any specific company's. Cheers! On 9/1/14, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote: I was refering to Liam's system, speciffically, which I think if memory serves me correctly, is hardware based. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Bryan, Yeah, using a slate and stylist is a total pain. I actually have one, but have never been good at it so haven't used it much. People have tried to get me to get better at it, but I just never have found a real need to sit down and practice with it. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Lori, Yes. A 404 error means that the requested page is missing or can't be found. So simply put the link to the order page is broken because the requested page is unavailable for some reason. As far as external drives goes I have had a lot of success with Sea Gate drives. I have never tried Sony's drives, and don't have en experience with them to form an opinion about them. All I do know is that generally speaking buying an external drive shouldn't cause any accessibility issues given that they should just show up in Windows Explorer or File Explorer as just any other drive. As far as your issue with sighted people not understanding accessibility I get that a lot, too. Fortunately, I don't have to deal with them much since I generally know what I am doing, and don't have to try and explain it to sighted people since I just do it myself. It sounds like you could use a general VI users list where you can ask technical questions and get more accessible help than you are getting at home. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, it was a soney drive, my dad got it for me on the recomendation of his friend who has a professional computer business. Dad isn't very tech-minded, and the friend, while good with computers, doesn't seem to understand the concept of blind accessibility, hense he put avast on my computer, then wonders why it's suddenly full of viruses lol. I knew it wasn't accessible, but trying to spell it out to someone who is sighted and think they know it all is like pulling teeth in this case. oh it'll be fine, and if not, ask for sighted help grrr! Anyway, I decided on copying my product ids for my l-works games and sending them to Liam to see if that made life any easier for him, the id for Super Liam is now on my clipboard, but on being taken to the order page, i get a 404 file not found message, which I think means the link is somehow broken. Do you know what 404 means? I'll try anyway to post the id and see if I can awaken Liam from his slumbers with some of my demonic singing! :) From lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Charles, You definitely show your age when you mention slate and stylus. In my experience most younger blind people don't even know how to use one let alone use it. With the growth of technology I only see braille solutions like a slate and stylus becoming even less relevant to blind users. For example, in the 90's and early 2000's something like the slate and stylus became obsolete when the VI market was flooded with note takers like the Braille N' Speak, Type N' Speak, Braille Light, Braille Plus, Pac Mate, etc. Now days a blind person is more likely to grab their iPhone or iPad to jot down a quick note than anything else. There is definitely a good reason for that. When I first started losing my vision my VI teacher tried to teach me how to use a slate and stylus along with using a brailler. Quite frankly I never got the hang of the slate and stylus and even though I could use it I found it painfully slow and tedious. So by the time I went to junior high I got my parents to buy me a Braille N' Speak and I put my slate and stylus in a drawer and pretty much forgot about it. Most of my peers did the same. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Bryan, That may be the case, but ultimately he is directly responsible for what happens. If nobody wants to buy his games due to poor support then that it is his fault not theirs. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Dark and all, Just thought I would point out the name of the brand is Sea Gate not See Gate in case anyone wants to go looking for that brand of external drive. I will personally vouch for Sea Gate drives, because I have two of them and they have been far more reliable then Western Digital in my experience. As for Passport drives I have owned a couple of those, and found them to be very problematic. They are basically a laptop drive in a plastic housing. I've had troubles with the USB chords going bad on them and needing to be replaced, and if you drop one it is toast. So I found flash drives more reliable for basic backups. On 9/1/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Bryan, I do see the problem, but usually as long as the game is installed on the same PC backing up the old keys will work provided it is the same PC. If reinstalling on the same PC and the keys don't work then the key is not hardware based and uses something else to unlock the product. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: And unfortunately Super Liam and Judgment Day don't use name-based keys, so backing them up really doesn't work. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta (preferably 18)
Hi John, Is there any specific reason why you want beta 18? There are several newer betas than that with bug fixes, and updates available. So I am curious as to why beta 18 specifically? In any case I just checked my backups and the only beta I have on hand is beta 22. I deleted all the older betas and just kept the newest public beta for myself. If you want beta 22 I suppose I can put that back on site for a while until I roll out the newest beta. If it absolutely has to be beta 18 I'd have to build it from source and roll out an installer for it which would take time. Cheers! On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As the subject says, I'm looking to get a copy of mysteries of the ancients, preferably beta 18 if anybody has it. Its been a while since I've played, and I've been having hard drive troubles, so if anyone with a copy could get in touch with me I'd really appreciate it. I fully understand that the reason MOTA betas have not been distributed officially is because of bugs and a desire to avoid pointless emails. I hear by declare that, should I receive any beta version(s), I will send no such emails. If you have a version and are willing to upload it, please contact me off-list, as posting download links here may end up creating said emails. Thanks, John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 7:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Dark and all, Just thought I would point out the name of the brand is Sea Gate not See Gate in case anyone wants to go looking for that brand of external drive. I will personally vouch for Sea Gate drives, because I have two of them and they have been far more reliable then Western Digital in my experience. As for Passport drives I have owned a couple of those, and found them to be very problematic. They are basically a laptop drive in a plastic housing. I've had troubles with the USB chords going bad on them and needing to be replaced, and if you drop one it is toast. So I found flash drives more reliable for basic backups. On 9/1/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Lori. I don't know what sort of drive you used there, but I can say i've used a backup external drive for years. At the moment I have a see gate one. This is a rectangular device. It just has the one usb and a power lead, (I don't know why you would need two usb's or a stand). When I bought it I had to slot the part with the connectors for the usb and power lead onto the main box, but this wasn't a problem and now it is done I can pretty much forget about it. What I do is stick it in a box under my bed, then pull it out every three weeks or so to do a full backup of everything, all my keys, documents, music, audiobooks etc, (not to mention the setup files for programs). As an alternative You can now buy what are called passport drives. These are indeed as you say like a very fat memory stick, they are very small andportable, but can hold ridiculously large amounts (I bought one recently for my friend which had a 1 tb capacity). The difference however is that for a passport drive with no power lead you will be paying twice the price as you would for a standard external drive that needs plugging in. For example for 100 quid I could buy a 5 tb external drive with a plug, or a 2 Tb passport drive without. You also don't have to use E bay either, indeed I probably wouldn't get something like that from E bay myself sinse as you said your not sure of what your getting. Maplins are a reasonably good national chain and unlike pc world won't try to foist things on you, also the one near my parents are good for general advice as well. Hth. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Which is basically my point. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, That may be the case, but ultimately he is directly responsible for what happens. If nobody wants to buy his games due to poor support then that it is his fault not theirs. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
The machine's user code. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, I do see the problem, but usually as long as the game is installed on the same PC backing up the old keys will work provided it is the same PC. If reinstalling on the same PC and the keys don't work then the key is not hardware based and uses something else to unlock the product. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: And unfortunately Super Liam and Judgment Day don't use name-based keys, so backing them up really doesn't work. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18)
Any beta would be great. The reason I wanted 18 specifically was because its the one I personally enjoyed playing most; I found it quite a bit of fun to come up with challenges for myself revolving around jumping various obstacles without ever actually letting go of the keys. Plus, the full restores from the shield/armor were awesome, heh. There's absolutely no need to do an installer; I'd be perfectly happy with whatever you can throw together. I'm certainly not looking for production quality here, just some way I can get to play with an old distraction that's vanished into the abyss of hard drive errors. Thanks, John -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 7:50 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18) Hi John, Is there any specific reason why you want beta 18? There are several newer betas than that with bug fixes, and updates available. So I am curious as to why beta 18 specifically? In any case I just checked my backups and the only beta I have on hand is beta 22. I deleted all the older betas and just kept the newest public beta for myself. If you want beta 22 I suppose I can put that back on site for a while until I roll out the newest beta. If it absolutely has to be beta 18 I'd have to build it from source and roll out an installer for it which would take time. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18)
Beta 18 seemed to be the most stable. That's probably why. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:50 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18) Hi John, Is there any specific reason why you want beta 18? There are several newer betas than that with bug fixes, and updates available. So I am curious as to why beta 18 specifically? In any case I just checked my backups and the only beta I have on hand is beta 22. I deleted all the older betas and just kept the newest public beta for myself. If you want beta 22 I suppose I can put that back on site for a while until I roll out the newest beta. If it absolutely has to be beta 18 I'd have to build it from source and roll out an installer for it which would take time. Cheers! On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As the subject says, I'm looking to get a copy of mysteries of the ancients, preferably beta 18 if anybody has it. Its been a while since I've played, and I've been having hard drive troubles, so if anyone with a copy could get in touch with me I'd really appreciate it. I fully understand that the reason MOTA betas have not been distributed officially is because of bugs and a desire to avoid pointless emails. I hear by declare that, should I receive any beta version(s), I will send no such emails. If you have a version and are willing to upload it, please contact me off-list, as posting download links here may end up creating said emails. Thanks, John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18)
I didn't think we could share the betas? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18) Hi John, Is there any specific reason why you want beta 18? There are several newer betas than that with bug fixes, and updates available. So I am curious as to why beta 18 specifically? In any case I just checked my backups and the only beta I have on hand is beta 22. I deleted all the older betas and just kept the newest public beta for myself. If you want beta 22 I suppose I can put that back on site for a while until I roll out the newest beta. If it absolutely has to be beta 18 I'd have to build it from source and roll out an installer for it which would take time. Cheers! On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, As the subject says, I'm looking to get a copy of mysteries of the ancients, preferably beta 18 if anybody has it. Its been a while since I've played, and I've been having hard drive troubles, so if anyone with a copy could get in touch with me I'd really appreciate it. I fully understand that the reason MOTA betas have not been distributed officially is because of bugs and a desire to avoid pointless emails. I hear by declare that, should I receive any beta version(s), I will send no such emails. If you have a version and are willing to upload it, please contact me off-list, as posting download links here may end up creating said emails. Thanks, John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I'm not fast at using them, but they sure do beat using ink. (grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Bryan, Yeah, using a slate and stylist is a total pain. I actually have one, but have never been good at it so haven't used it much. People have tried to get me to get better at it, but I just never have found a real need to sit down and practice with it. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
They sure are old technology, but they only cost $20 or so compared to thousands. No battery issues and very portable. Having said that, I don't use them, either, but I do have one, and it is an affordable option for producing brailled game key info. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Charles, You definitely show your age when you mention slate and stylus. In my experience most younger blind people don't even know how to use one let alone use it. With the growth of technology I only see braille solutions like a slate and stylus becoming even less relevant to blind users. For example, in the 90's and early 2000's something like the slate and stylus became obsolete when the VI market was flooded with note takers like the Braille N' Speak, Type N' Speak, Braille Light, Braille Plus, Pac Mate, etc. Now days a blind person is more likely to grab their iPhone or iPad to jot down a quick note than anything else. There is definitely a good reason for that. When I first started losing my vision my VI teacher tried to teach me how to use a slate and stylus along with using a brailler. Quite frankly I never got the hang of the slate and stylus and even though I could use it I found it painfully slow and tedious. So by the time I went to junior high I got my parents to buy me a Braille N' Speak and I put my slate and stylus in a drawer and pretty much forgot about it. Most of my peers did the same. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Why not buy online where the prices are better and you don't have to find transportation to shop for them? I've never had a problem at all with www.amazon.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, What you call a memory stick are commonly called flash drives here in the US. Basically, it is just a long skinny plastic device with a cap on it you can take of and slide it into your USB port. To be honest I haven't paid too much attention to brands and just buy them based on price and the amount of memory available on them. There is another option available you might want to think about. You can buy a USB card reader which costs about $15, and you can put any size flash card in it which is nice. Of course you have to be careful with flash cards, but you can have several of them for a decent price and they are small enough to store in a desk drawer or in a container on your computer desk. Either way backup devices aren't that expensive. I don't know much about the UK to tell you where to get them, but I'm sure there has to be somewhere to get them for a fair price without going to Amazon, New Egg, or another online vender. On 9/1/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Charles, I haven't had a problem with Amazon either. I have also gotten stuff from New Egg and a few other online stores as well. However, Lori seems a bit hesitant about buying online so she may have to look locally for something she wants. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Why not buy online where the prices are better and you don't have to find transportation to shop for them? I've never had a problem at all with www.amazon.com --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Charles, No arguing with that. A slate and stylus is an inexpensive way to write down keys on a braille sheet of paper. It might be slow and tedious, but it is affordable and doesn't require sighted help. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: They sure are old technology, but they only cost $20 or so compared to thousands. No battery issues and very portable. Having said that, I don't use them, either, but I do have one, and it is an affordable option for producing brailled game key info. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi John, Wow. You are lucky you didn't send that drive to oblivion. However, it all depends on the drive. Some just can stand up to more of a beating than others. On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I yanked my passport off the desk, out of the usb port and accidentally wacked it half way across the room while it was spinning down, and it still works fine. Its a wd, too. On the subject of hard disk reliability, this article might be interesting: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/how-long-do-disk-drives-last/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18)
Hi Charles, that is true. Of course, keep in mind at the time I told people not to share the Mysteries of the Ancients betas I was expecting to release an updated beta within six months and had no idea that development would drag on for years. My primary motivation at the time was to keep users, possibly new users, from pestering me with bug reports, feature requests, etc that had nothing to do with the new beta I was working on and was intending to release. However, as I know the project has slowed to a halt I can probably locate a copy of beta 22 and at least put it back up on site for the end users' enjoyment until I can roll something else out. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I didn't think we could share the betas? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancients beta(preferably 18)
Hi John, Well, since many people have requested that I put the betas back up if I am going to do it I might as well do it for everyone rather than one person. that means a production release and not just zip up the contents of the demo and slap it on the USA Games site. that's also why I was curious to know why beta 18 verses a newer release. I have not played beta 18 any time recently, and only have beta 22 installed on a couple of machines. So that is why I was wondering what if anything was so different about beta 18 that made it preferable to the newer releases. On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Any beta would be great. The reason I wanted 18 specifically was because its the one I personally enjoyed playing most; I found it quite a bit of fun to come up with challenges for myself revolving around jumping various obstacles without ever actually letting go of the keys. Plus, the full restores from the shield/armor were awesome, heh. There's absolutely no need to do an installer; I'd be perfectly happy with whatever you can throw together. I'm certainly not looking for production quality here, just some way I can get to play with an old distraction that's vanished into the abyss of hard drive errors. Thanks, John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancientsbeta(preferably 18)
As I recall, wasn't version 22 fairly stable? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancientsbeta(preferably 18) Hi John, Well, since many people have requested that I put the betas back up if I am going to do it I might as well do it for everyone rather than one person. that means a production release and not just zip up the contents of the demo and slap it on the USA Games site. that's also why I was curious to know why beta 18 verses a newer release. I have not played beta 18 any time recently, and only have beta 22 installed on a couple of machines. So that is why I was wondering what if anything was so different about beta 18 that made it preferable to the newer releases. On 9/1/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Any beta would be great. The reason I wanted 18 specifically was because its the one I personally enjoyed playing most; I found it quite a bit of fun to come up with challenges for myself revolving around jumping various obstacles without ever actually letting go of the keys. Plus, the full restores from the shield/armor were awesome, heh. There's absolutely no need to do an installer; I'd be perfectly happy with whatever you can throw together. I'm certainly not looking for production quality here, just some way I can get to play with an old distraction that's vanished into the abyss of hard drive errors. Thanks, John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancientsbeta(preferably 18)
I was thinking that 22 was also very stable. I still have it. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancientsbeta(preferably 18) Hi Bryan, Oh, really? I would have thought beta 22 was more stable than beta 18 since there were quite a number of updates and bug fixes between 18 and 22. I had no idea that beta 18 was considered by end users to be more stable. If that's the case perhaps I might put that version up instead of beta 22. Although, people will effectively lose out on any changes in the later betas. Cheers! On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Beta 18 seemed to be the most stable. That's probably why. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] RS Games has Released Cards Against Humanity!
Hi All, I'm excited to announce that RS Games has released Cards Against Humanity! For those who don't know, Cards Against Humanity is basically an adult version of Apples to Apples with R-rated cards. For that reason, you must be at least 18 years old to play this game. This game has become pretty popular over the last few years and we're glad to be able to add it to RS Games. You can read more about the game in the documentation at http://zanosoft.net/zgp/doc/cah.html or check it out from within the RS Games Client. Enjoy! Regards, Mike Co-Founder, RS Games www.rsgames.org --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancientsbeta(preferably 18)
Check Thy inbox. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancientsbeta(preferably 18) Hi Charles, that is true. Of course, keep in mind at the time I told people not to share the Mysteries of the Ancients betas I was expecting to release an updated beta within six months and had no idea that development would drag on for years. My primary motivation at the time was to keep users, possibly new users, from pestering me with bug reports, feature requests, etc that had nothing to do with the new beta I was working on and was intending to release. However, as I know the project has slowed to a halt I can probably locate a copy of beta 22 and at least put it back up on site for the end users' enjoyment until I can roll something else out. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: I didn't think we could share the betas? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for mysteries of the ancientsbeta(preferably 18)
Hi Charles, I always considered it to be the most stable version of the game I produced. Yeah, there were a couple of things that could be improved, but beta 22 was the best version in my personal opinion. that is why John threw me when asking specifically for beta 18 which I personally didn't think was as good as beta 22. However, it has been so long since I played beta 18 maybe there is something in it that wasn't in beta 22? Cheers! On 9/2/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: As I recall, wasn't version 22 fairly stable? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
So did I tom, a fuzzing hard drive I had died, I recovered to another drive. That drive went boom. After that I was able to get most data back from the broken first drive, and then I was able to get another drive. I got a second drive and now back the working external to the backup drive all the time as well as other stuff, though to be honest the backup drive is only used for the backup. When this drive dies I will use the backup drive as the primary drive and then buy another drive to use as backup. Hopefully this means that at any time I only need to replace one drive. Still its a hard lesson. A lot of people at least those a friend that did admin and website and system servicing found that a lot of people did not kep adaquit backups. At 03:10 p.m. 1/09/2014, you wrote: Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Laury, I have used western digital for years and bar one of my elements drives dieing on me after less than a year of use, both my my book and elements have gone ok. One thing to note that some of the drives like the my book are easy to knock over I have done this a few times, a cousin kicked his by mistake and it fell off his desk and its now just a brick. At 08:02 p.m. 1/09/2014, you wrote: Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is probably less in pounds. I have a couple of them I keep in my desk drawer just for extremely important information like product keys so even if my main backup system gets damaged in some way I have an alternative source to go get that data. Perhaps you can consider something similar in the future. I know this will sound extremely harsh, but in a lot of cases it isn't the responsibility of the company or individual who sells you a product to replace your product key if you lose it. Corporations like Microsoft charge big fees if you lose your product keys therefore it is in the end user's best interests to find a way to backup that information in multiple ways to avoid paying for new keys. If you don't safeguard that information then it will cost you money to get new keys. We are fortunate that most audio game developers aren't quite that strict about key replacement policies and perhaps that is why so many blind customers are extremely lax about their keys, and just assume if something happens they deserve a free key replacement even though in the real world that kind of service would be rare. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, it is totally wrong. I got Super Egghunt Pluss for Christmas last year, and had all my keys saved to my portible hard drive as well as my c drive. The c drive got infected with a really bad virus, meaning I had to get it replaced, and when i inserted the back-up drive to put my keys back into the computer, I was told the drive was corrupted, so ended up losing everything anyway. What he should consider is a key retrievel system, with so many keys allowed per year. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
I agree. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy his stuff because he seems to be never around to replace keys or issue new ones. While superliam is a constant key, once you have it its there but with judgement day every time you reformat or need to install the key is different again. At 07:09 p.m. 1/09/2014, you wrote: Only problem with that is that this could turn new players away, so Liam might not make any money anyway. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 8:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, While I do agree Liam needs to get his act together about key replacements and providing better support for his games I disagree about him giving them away for free. He put the time and work into creating them so deserves some compensation for that, and as a fellow developer can understand why he would be reluctant to just give them away. That said, I don't really understand why he isn't providing better support for them. Yes, I know he does have a real daytime job which would drastically effect how much free time he has to devoting to supporting his products. Nobody can fault him for that, but I do think he could probably manage his free time better. I realize it is easy for me to say this, but I would think he could devote at least a little time to L-Works support rather than doing something else with his free time be it watching TV,playing games, or whatever it is he does in his free time. It makes me question weather he really cares or not. Perhaps, though, I am being too harsh. I just don't know enough about why he isn't offering better support to accurately make a fair judgement about the situation. Still, even if he himself doesn't have free time he should be able to find a trusted friend, relative, or appoint a fellow game developer to redistribute product keys and help manage the business end of things of L-Works rather than let things hang. Again, easy for me to say, but it would potentially be an option to offer his customers something rather than seemingly ignoring them. Last of all he could always write or higher someone to write some automated system which would ideally be the best way to handle support. The automated system would be available 24/7 and only require minimal oversight. That way he would be free to do whatever he needed to do while having an automated system overseeing the business end of the business. The point being here is I know Liam could probably do something, and for that reason I don't believe just giving his games away for free is the right answer. However, he does need to do something as it feels like a lot of people have been left in the lurch by his lack of attention to L-Works the last few years. On 8/30/14, loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, he really does need to get his act together with l-works. We've paid good money for high quality games, and if he can't be bothered helping his customers, then he should just make all his games free. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened toLiam?
With the labeler, all you have to do is to line the desired character up with a notch just in front of the wheel and squeeze the trigger. When you release the trigger, the tape advances into position to emboss the next character. Turn the wheel until the next desired character is lined up with the notch and repeat the procedure. If the cutter on the labeler doesn't cut well, use a pair of scissors. They are very easy to use. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened toLiam? I would beg to differ on that. I'm not terribly fast with a slate, but with the labeler, you have to make sure each letter is centered just right, then press down on the trigger part. Then you have to hope that the label cuts properly, because sometimes they don't. Either that, or I've just had to use really crappy labelers. In my experience, the process is just as cumbersome as using a slate. On 9/1/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: At least with a labeler it's not painfully slow. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 12:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the keeper of the keys - Re: What has happened to Liam? I taught myself to use one, and they are far more useful to a blind person than having someone else write and read info back to you. The method is very slow, but you can use it without sighted assistance, which means independence. Brailling product keys onto Dymo tape, which will not wear out very easily, can be done with a slate and stylus, a brailler, or a machine made specifically for embossing onto Dymo tape. Lastly, I wonder how many people caught the reference in the subject line. (grin) --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Exactly. Not everyone can use a slate and stylus. I can't and I tried to learn for years, mostly at te insistance of Joke Rehab people. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: loriduncan Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 8:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? I've never written like that before, only ever used brail, but if they were written down by a sighted person, at least there would still be a record of them, and I live with family too, so have someone to rread them out. Perhaps, Liam could come up with some form of account system to register his games, like Aprone has for Swamp. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: loriduncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Thomas, the old drive I had was actually similar to a phone or ipod in that it was a square device, but thinking about it now, it was more trouble than it was worth, it sat on a small base, like a docking station, and had 2 usb cables plugged into it, and the other ends went into my computer. What I'd really like, is one that's more like a tiny memory stick, where you just take the cap off the end and slide it in to a single usb port, but I don't know which make is the best, or where would have them in the uk. I struggle to trust sites like ebay and buying products which are used. I also have a really ancient perkins brailer, but the keys are jammed lol. The only other way I can think of to back up my keys, is to have a sighted person write them down for me. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 4:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam? Hi Lori, That's strange, but what I have learned the hard way is one should always make backups of their backups. Especially, if it is something very important. for example, here in the US a USB flash drive is under $20 in US dollars so is
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Well I did get a couple but really never got into those that much. I had a perkins and a older lavinder braille unit to start off with. Sadly I was in the age before electronic braille came mainstream I was always lugging it round. I did use a braille to standard print unit for a time and did begin to start with electronic braille but for whatever reason it never happened right. After I graduated to a querty board except for math there seemed little reason to read braille let alone write it, the books were to heavy, and I always dropped the unit, fell down the stairs with it or smashed it into or hit it with things not to mention the frucking keys kept breaking and had to be tied together with paperclips. If I restarted school today I'd have an electronic braille note or simular and I think they are pushing macs in a big way now. At 11:27 a.m. 2/09/2014, you wrote: Hi Charles, You definitely show your age when you mention slate and stylus. In my experience most younger blind people don't even know how to use one let alone use it. With the growth of technology I only see braille solutions like a slate and stylus becoming even less relevant to blind users. For example, in the 90's and early 2000's something like the slate and stylus became obsolete when the VI market was flooded with note takers like the Braille N' Speak, Type N' Speak, Braille Light, Braille Plus, Pac Mate, etc. Now days a blind person is more likely to grab their iPhone or iPad to jot down a quick note than anything else. There is definitely a good reason for that. When I first started losing my vision my VI teacher tried to teach me how to use a slate and stylus along with using a brailler. Quite frankly I never got the hang of the slate and stylus and even though I could use it I found it painfully slow and tedious. So by the time I went to junior high I got my parents to buy me a Braille N' Speak and I put my slate and stylus in a drawer and pretty much forgot about it. Most of my peers did the same. On 9/1/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If a sighted person were to write them down for you, could you read their writing? A better solution would be a slate and stylus and a piece of heavy paper. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, you are right. Most people don't keep adequate backups of their stuff. Not even me. What a lot of people fail to realize is they often times need to keep backups of their backups just in case their primary backup system gets damaged or destroyed. Its happened to me, and I am sure has happened to plenty of others as well. Cheers! On 9/1/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: So did I tom, a fuzzing hard drive I had died, I recovered to another drive. That drive went boom. After that I was able to get most data back from the broken first drive, and then I was able to get another drive. I got a second drive and now back the working external to the backup drive all the time as well as other stuff, though to be honest the backup drive is only used for the backup. When this drive dies I will use the backup drive as the primary drive and then buy another drive to use as backup. Hopefully this means that at any time I only need to replace one drive. Still its a hard lesson. A lot of people at least those a friend that did admin and website and system servicing found that a lot of people did not kep adaquit backups. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] What has happened to Liam?
Hi Shaun, Good grief! You sound like an absolute klutz. While I have broken a couple of Braille N' speaks in my time mostly because I was being careless I can't say I smashed them into things, fell down the stairs with one, or had any issues with the keys. For the most part I did my best to take care of the notetakers I had, because they were expensive and I had to absolutely keep mine in working order. However, I think we are drifting way off topic. So ask that we steer things back to the topic at hand or close it. Cheers! On 9/1/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well I did get a couple but really never got into those that much. I had a perkins and a older lavinder braille unit to start off with. Sadly I was in the age before electronic braille came mainstream I was always lugging it round. I did use a braille to standard print unit for a time and did begin to start with electronic braille but for whatever reason it never happened right. After I graduated to a querty board except for math there seemed little reason to read braille let alone write it, the books were to heavy, and I always dropped the unit, fell down the stairs with it or smashed it into or hit it with things not to mention the frucking keys kept breaking and had to be tied together with paperclips. If I restarted school today I'd have an electronic braille note or simular and I think they are pushing macs in a big way now. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
