[Audyssey] Sryth-The Lair of the Ice Troll
Hi All. I just herd about The Lair of the Ice Troll in the news from Sryth, and therefore wanna ask if noone knows how to find that Adventure? Thanks. Jimmy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven!
What I meant was, sadly, you can't do anything about it. If the person playing your game decides that, ok, this is not worth paying for? he/she is going to find a way to get it for free. Or, I can't pay for this! The I can't pay for this can be for any reason, but when one can't pay, one won't pay. It is not up to me, as a developer, to decide that my game is worth paying for or not. I mean, no matter what I decide, people tend to get what they want however they want it. Piracy is not right to do, that is the bottom line, I was just stating some side-facts, you see. In my country, all the software can be obtained for free. In my cvcountry, all the music is obtained for free. When you are in such an environment, you just realize, hey, that producer has put some time on that. Or hey, Microsoft has designed windows, although it's awful, but it's something only a little below avrage, and it deserves to be paid. But does anyone pay around here? If you already don't know the answer, it is, NO. That is why I never play the games that are not free and keep myself out of the whole thing. Too much headache. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Hi, Well, there are many points of view about intelectual copyrights, but the fact of the matter is if you pirate software you are hurting the company in question in one way or another. High quality sound effects, graphics, and music can get very expensive. A game developer needs money to purchase these things, and if you pirate the games then that is less money to use on the next game. That isn't even considering the labor costs involved in working on a game 10 to 20 hours a week. Let us look at this in this way. Which would produce more income for me. I could work at McDonald's for 20 hours a week and get a pay check every two weeks, or I can work for 20 hours a week for an entire year with no pay and have some young, upstart, pirates steel all of my work for free. Now, if those very same pirates were forced to work for a year, and then were expecting to be paid at the end of that year and were not paid what would they say? I am pretty certain they would be screaming for some heads to roll, and want their money the day before yesterday. The absolute truth is a lot of pirates have no experience in business and are just kids who have not had real life experience in trying to earn a living. They have some foolish notion that they deserve everything served to them on a golden platter without paying for it. Once they grow up a little they see everyone needs to work to make a living, and steeling is steeling no matter what intelectual spin you put on it. I don't know how old you are, but when you say things like, it all depends on what you think work and effort should cost, shows a lack of experience in business. A business requires materials, employees, and a certain percent of proffet. If you don't have enough money to buy all the materials to create a product you can't make the product, if you have no money for employees you have no one to produce the products, and if you have no proffet you can't purchase food, pay the rent, pay the phone bill, and so on. Those are facts, and not open to intelectual opinions. Parham wrote: Perhaps. And perhaps not. Everyone is working on what their produce, but I think it all goes back to you choosing, in your mind, how much work and effort deserves being paid for. People have different opinions on that. I do not tend to defend my friend, nore crytisize her, but am just stating facts. I have never played Judgement Day, so I can't say. I have played Super Liam though, the demo, at least, and it wasn't different from the many sidescrollers up to that point. Of course the rest are different, and that's why I choose to take a neutral position in this discussion, because it's going on a narrow ledge. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Achaea!
Hi, Just curious of who on this list plays Achaea, and what their char-names are. If you don't care, give your class too! I'm Parham, a druid. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Shaun, Yes, Che's locking system is pretty good. I like it myself. In fact, I was working on something similar, but now I have the problem Mac and Linux handle security totally different from Windows. Now, I have to invent a totally new product ID system that will generally work on multiple operating systems. Especially, since my new and improved activation system relied on data recovered from the user's system registry which Linux and Mac os do not have. Grr. shaun everiss wrote: I think che has it bang on with activations through a server, and a way to backup the keys and then if you run on another system you need to reregister but you can backup that computers file to. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Shaun, Well, how much you have to spend on a new key depends on the developer. BSC has a very fair policy about handling new keys, and key replacements. So does GMA. Microsoft is one of the companies that screws you royally for a new product key, and one of the reasons I am beginning to use more Linux software. I am tired of their draconian policies. Like a lot of honest people I do not mind paying for software. What I do mind is paying through the nose to get a new key for it if I get a new laptop or replace a motherboard in a desktop computer. That is a rediculous and unfare policy MS has regarding their Windows products. It is one thing if you have to pay $35 for a new accessible game and quite another if you have to pay $120 or more for a new key for Windows Home Basic. shaun everiss wrote: thats true all the activations and checks windows has. ok if you have the net and ok if its the same system but If you have another system unless you are ditching the system that the product was on you have to buy another licence, which costs as much as the full product. I sertainly think this is real unfair for software companies to do this, And in that case I wouldn't be happy since I had a copy of the software, I also hate the fact laptops lock keys to the serials, i have dead laptops and desktops with xp on them. These coppies are useless for that reason. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Shaun, Technically that is the difference between intelectual copyright rights and what the actual companies claim their rights are. I don't know if you have read Microsoft's end user license agreements, but according to them you do not own the software you pay for. Specifically, the end user license agreement for Windows is written up like a rental agreement. You are allowed to borrow and use the software, for a fee, but you have no right to ownership, modification, sublicense, or transfer your license under the agreement. Basically, you rent not own the software in question. This is something that is not understood by the typical Windows user at large. They think as you do they paid for it so they own it. If they read their rights under the license they would know they are renting not buying to own the software on their computers. That is totally different from the way the Linux community is setup. Under their end user license agreements you are allowed to own, modify, and freely redistribute the software under the terms of the agreement. Open source software was designed specifically for people who have addressed their intelectual copyright rights and demand full ownership for the software they buy and use. That is why you can give Linux away, sell it, modify it, do whatever you want to it, and no one can complain. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] deal or no deal
Does anyone know of a version of deal or no deal, in any format, that can be played by totally blind people with absolutely no assistance from a sighted person? Thanks. -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Achaea!
Hello Parham, I play Achaea. My characters name is Ilanthas and I am a monk. My city is Ashtan and I am a member of house Ashura. I am also Level 41. Sincerely, Greg W. Parham wrote: Hi, Just curious of who on this list plays Achaea, and what their char-names are. If you don't care, give your class too! I'm Parham, a druid. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven!
Hi, I am surprised in your country why your people haven't just switched to a free OS alternative like Linux. I mean there are generally all the same kinds of applications for Linux as there for Windows for a fraction of the cost. Want a Microsoft Office equal try Open Office, want a Outlook equal try Evolution, want a better product than Internet Explorer try Firefox 3, etc. I won't say accessibility is an exact one to one comparison to Windows, Linux access still needs to improve, but reasonable access is here. If it comes down to paying $300 for a Jaws SMA or downloading Orca 2.18 for free I will go Orca. The nice thing about some of these alternative operating systems like Linux is that it is affordable for anyone who has a computer. Even poor countries, that can not afford Windows, can download and run Linux software for almost no investment up front. If you want commercial software like Eloquence or Dectalk for Linux you have to pay for that, but TTS engines like festival and ESpeak are absolutely free. I have actually tried Orca's French and Spanish language settings with ESpeak and it has very good foreign language support. I would say it is prime software for a non-English speaker, but I don't care that much for the voice itself. I use Dectalk with Orca as I am a big Dectalk fan. Grin Parham wrote: What I meant was, sadly, you can't do anything about it. If the person playing your game decides that, ok, this is not worth paying for? he/she is going to find a way to get it for free. Or, I can't pay for this! The I can't pay for this can be for any reason, but when one can't pay, one won't pay. It is not up to me, as a developer, to decide that my game is worth paying for or not. I mean, no matter what I decide, people tend to get what they want however they want it. Piracy is not right to do, that is the bottom line, I was just stating some side-facts, you see. In my country, all the software can be obtained for free. In my cvcountry, all the music is obtained for free. When you are in such an environment, you just realize, hey, that producer has put some time on that. Or hey, Microsoft has designed windows, although it's awful, but it's something only a little below avrage, and it deserves to be paid. But does anyone pay around here? If you already don't know the answer, it is, NO. That is why I never play the games that are not free and keep myself out of the whole thing. Too much headache. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
iai! i'm obviously late in answering this subject, but anywai... well this is right thomas. if you concider that you know... someone worked hard to do that, you can't just come and: iai!!! i have a free game! lets take all the developer work into the ground, how fun!!! i have to admit to you all that i already used cracks. i did, because of i was not aware, as you said, about the other side regards, mauricio -Mensagem original- De: oriol gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quinta, 24 de Julho de 2008 22:42 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking what if you don't know their email address? On 7/24/08, Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I put a sorta antipiracy thing in Acefire. I mean, it would physically allow someone to pirate the game, but it would've been a shock for the cracker when they got an email from me... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of their sounds. Ok its not a big deal, its 2 little sounds that is the same as in monkey business, but if you are concerned about copyright issues and cracking, you should really take care of those sounds by replacing it with original sounds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If
Re: [Audyssey] Introduction
what's your company, sorry about asking, i'm still kinda lost -Mensagem original- De: John Bannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quinta, 24 de Julho de 2008 17:20 Assunto: [Audyssey] Introduction Welcome Michael, Boston! Way cool. I live up in Salem, MA. You might look at the Top 25 Web Sites for Gamers who are Blind: http://www.7128.com/top25/top25sitesblind2008.html It's something my computer games company puts out. In any case, happy gaming. John Bannick 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 23/07/2008 06:55 AM --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] bg uno
hi all! i have a problem trying to download the bg uno game. i can't download it, the link for download appear, but i can't click on it. someone have the link, or can pass to a ftp to i download? thanks so much. matheus --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Introduction
Hi, His company is 7128 Games. Cheers. Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida wrote: what's your company, sorry about asking, i'm still kinda lost --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] where are you living?Re: very important message to liam erven!
What country are you in? Just curious. Thanks. -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! What I meant was, sadly, you can't do anything about it. If the person playing your game decides that, ok, this is not worth paying for? he/she is going to find a way to get it for free. Or, I can't pay for this! The I can't pay for this can be for any reason, but when one can't pay, one won't pay. It is not up to me, as a developer, to decide that my game is worth paying for or not. I mean, no matter what I decide, people tend to get what they want however they want it. Piracy is not right to do, that is the bottom line, I was just stating some side-facts, you see. In my country, all the software can be obtained for free. In my cvcountry, all the music is obtained for free. When you are in such an environment, you just realize, hey, that producer has put some time on that. Or hey, Microsoft has designed windows, although it's awful, but it's something only a little below avrage, and it deserves to be paid. But does anyone pay around here? If you already don't know the answer, it is, NO. That is why I never play the games that are not free and keep myself out of the whole thing. Too much headache. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi, I think it's just about the same with anybody. I don't know a single person who didn't pirate a CD for someone if music's their thing, pirate a software key for someone if computers are their thing... What's important though is when those people understand what problems it is causing the producers of the end product and they then go and buy a legitimate copy. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking iai! i'm obviously late in answering this subject, but anywai... well this is right thomas. if you concider that you know... someone worked hard to do that, you can't just come and: iai!!! i have a free game! lets take all the developer work into the ground, how fun!!! i have to admit to you all that i already used cracks. i did, because of i was not aware, as you said, about the other side regards, mauricio -Mensagem original- De: oriol gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quinta, 24 de Julho de 2008 22:42 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] game cracking what if you don't know their email address? On 7/24/08, Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I put a sorta antipiracy thing in Acefire. I mean, it would physically allow someone to pirate the game, but it would've been a shock for the cracker when they got an email from me... Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game cracking Let Liam know who your friend is. Piracy! is! illegal! and he should know about it even if he does nothing, although I hope he does. I'd really like to see game crackers get what they deserve, and i do not mean a free game, either! -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! Lol! I don't think it's only Liam's games that are cracked, anyway. Besides, whatever one does, someone would come and crack the program/game/whatever. My friend tells me that she cracked the latest game of Liam, because she thought it wouldn't be worth paying for. Since I do not play much of audio games anyway, I refrain from giving my own personal opinion on the matter. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! well, well... guess draconis wont mind if this is only 2 sounds, i mean, well, no problems about two sounds.. and well, cracks happens, what can we do, it's life -Mensagem original- De: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers@audyssey.org Data: 16 de Julho de 2008 22:56 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! agreed nicol! -Mensagem original- De: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Data: Terça, 22 de Julho de 2008 20:07 Assunto: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! I've been checking the list archives and I noticed a thread where liam complained about people cracking his games. Well liam, I've noticed something which you might take care of. I'm not trying to be insulting or rude I'm just giving a friendly warning. Well, I don't own monkey business myself but I play it sometimes on a friend's pc. I've noticed while playing the demo of super liam that the sound of the monkeys dropping cocanuts is exactly the same as sounds in monkey business. That little musical sound is exactly the same as in level9 in monkey business. When you have to follow the monkey to the teleporter he makes that little musical sound when you are close to him, when you get far behind him he makes another sound. On the beach in the super liam demo I recognize that same musical sound. I heard that same sound when listening to raul playing super liam. The sound as the cocanut is falling together with that little whisseling sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in the jungle and campsite in monkey business. That dish sound is the same as when you walk into a tree in monkey business and that whistling sound is the same as in monkey business when a cocanut hits you . Because in monkey business if you walk into a tree more than once then you get hurt. So liam, you want to take care of that. I don't think draconis is going to be happy if they learn that you are using some of
Re: [Audyssey] bg uno
Hi, Download link? It is supposed to be obtained by sending an email to the author. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bg uno hi all! i have a problem trying to download the bg uno game. i can't download it, the link for download appear, but i can't click on it. someone have the link, or can pass to a ftp to i download? thanks so much. matheus --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Gamers Digest, Vol 29, Issue 81
Hi, speaking sighted-wise, it's because there are all these courses for learning Windows and such, and there are not much people who know how to use linux, let alone use it. My girlfriend who studied computers in highschool knows about LS and stuff. They teach them very basic stuff, and on a RedHat distro, so it's not reliable. Speaking blind-wise, I myself don't like Orca because of the support it doesn't provide. I mean it's wonderful and it's going to be great in a year or two -- but not now. FreeBSD still remains to be tested, though. I've heard Orca doesn't support Firefox 3 on it! --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: Gamers Digest, Vol 29, Issue 81 Send Gamers mailing list submissions to gamers@audyssey.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Gamers digest... Today's Topics: 1. deal or no deal (Charles Rivard) 2. Re: Achaea! (Greg) 3. Re: very important message to liam erven! (Thomas Ward) 4. Re: game cracking (Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida) 5. Re: Introduction (Mauricio peixoto de Mattos Almeida) 6. bg uno (Matheus) 7. Re: Introduction (Thomas Ward) 8. where are you living?Re: very important message to liam erven! (Charles Rivard) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] achaea
Hi Parham. What is this game or mud and where can you find it at sounds very interesting. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] where are you living?Re: very important message to liamerven!
Iran. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] where are you living?Re: very important message to liamerven! What country are you in? Just curious. Thanks. -- Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier. - Original Message - From: Parham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven! What I meant was, sadly, you can't do anything about it. If the person playing your game decides that, ok, this is not worth paying for? he/she is going to find a way to get it for free. Or, I can't pay for this! The I can't pay for this can be for any reason, but when one can't pay, one won't pay. It is not up to me, as a developer, to decide that my game is worth paying for or not. I mean, no matter what I decide, people tend to get what they want however they want it. Piracy is not right to do, that is the bottom line, I was just stating some side-facts, you see. In my country, all the software can be obtained for free. In my cvcountry, all the music is obtained for free. When you are in such an environment, you just realize, hey, that producer has put some time on that. Or hey, Microsoft has designed windows, although it's awful, but it's something only a little below avrage, and it deserves to be paid. But does anyone pay around here? If you already don't know the answer, it is, NO. That is why I never play the games that are not free and keep myself out of the whole thing. Too much headache. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Introduction
Michael, No. I'm neither blind nor (to be honest) much of a gamer. Like Thomas, Jim, and the others, I'm a computer programmer who likes to build games. I got interested in software accessibility while working at Kurzweil. We were told that the reading machine at that time contained an audio copy of Zork. That gave me the idea. When the opportunity came along for a bunch of us to start our own game company, I made it a requirement that as many games as possible be as accessible as possible, including blindness, vision impairment, color blindness, deafness, motion impairment, and cognitive impairment. Being Head Geek helps. So I'm active in the Boston Visually Impaired and Blind Users Group, the Boston Voice Users Group, the International Game Developers Association - Game Accessibility special interest group, and some other groups. The VIBUG group meets at the Braille Press offices in Boston. Check out their web site at www.vibug.org. Making software accessible is an interesting challenge and has led me to meet some really neat people. You'll find a lot of them here at Audyssey. Mauricio, The URL is: www.7128.com. The Company name is 7-128 Software. (as in 7 people living within highway 128 here in Boston) Happy gaming, John Bannick Chief Technology Officer 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] USA Games News 7/25/2008
Thomas, In one of Lindsey Davis' novels about Marcus Didius Falco, a detective in ancient Rome, Falco is sending a criminal to the salt mines. The criminal asks if it's because he did the crime. Falco responds, No. It's because you are a building contractor. John --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
I understand that part most software will not allow you to crack, decompile modify, or anything like that. However its a pitty you can't easily transfer stuff betwene your home systems when they change. Ok i can see the other viewpoint however I must say that I understand why the every day pirate feels justified, heck if I couldn't afford this stuff I'd feel justified. Its only because the laptops have their own copy and the fact that ebay exists that I don't and even then In the past I have been slow to buy expensive software, lets just say that. At 12:20 a.m. 27/07/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Technically that is the difference between intelectual copyright rights and what the actual companies claim their rights are. I don't know if you have read Microsoft's end user license agreements, but according to them you do not own the software you pay for. Specifically, the end user license agreement for Windows is written up like a rental agreement. You are allowed to borrow and use the software, for a fee, but you have no right to ownership, modification, sublicense, or transfer your license under the agreement. Basically, you rent not own the software in question. This is something that is not understood by the typical Windows user at large. They think as you do they paid for it so they own it. If they read their rights under the license they would know they are renting not buying to own the software on their computers. That is totally different from the way the Linux community is setup. Under their end user license agreements you are allowed to own, modify, and freely redistribute the software under the terms of the agreement. Open source software was designed specifically for people who have addressed their intelectual copyright rights and demand full ownership for the software they buy and use. That is why you can give Linux away, sell it, modify it, do whatever you want to it, and no one can complain. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] very important message to liam erven!
you'd be supprised tom, we still use windows here ok linux can be supported but its all microsoft related. even my isp is microsoft related there is not even support for things like eudora so I don't know where all the security systems go for everything at all. As a result I can't use them. At 12:53 a.m. 27/07/2008, you wrote: Hi, I am surprised in your country why your people haven't just switched to a free OS alternative like Linux. I mean there are generally all the same kinds of applications for Linux as there for Windows for a fraction of the cost. Want a Microsoft Office equal try Open Office, want a Outlook equal try Evolution, want a better product than Internet Explorer try Firefox 3, etc. I won't say accessibility is an exact one to one comparison to Windows, Linux access still needs to improve, but reasonable access is here. If it comes down to paying $300 for a Jaws SMA or downloading Orca 2.18 for free I will go Orca. The nice thing about some of these alternative operating systems like Linux is that it is affordable for anyone who has a computer. Even poor countries, that can not afford Windows, can download and run Linux software for almost no investment up front. If you want commercial software like Eloquence or Dectalk for Linux you have to pay for that, but TTS engines like festival and ESpeak are absolutely free. I have actually tried Orca's French and Spanish language settings with ESpeak and it has very good foreign language support. I would say it is prime software for a non-English speaker, but I don't care that much for the voice itself. I use Dectalk with Orca as I am a big Dectalk fan. Grin Parham wrote: What I meant was, sadly, you can't do anything about it. If the person playing your game decides that, ok, this is not worth paying for? he/she is going to find a way to get it for free. Or, I can't pay for this! The I can't pay for this can be for any reason, but when one can't pay, one won't pay. It is not up to me, as a developer, to decide that my game is worth paying for or not. I mean, no matter what I decide, people tend to get what they want however they want it. Piracy is not right to do, that is the bottom line, I was just stating some side-facts, you see. In my country, all the software can be obtained for free. In my cvcountry, all the music is obtained for free. When you are in such an environment, you just realize, hey, that producer has put some time on that. Or hey, Microsoft has designed windows, although it's awful, but it's something only a little below avrage, and it deserves to be paid. But does anyone pay around here? If you already don't know the answer, it is, NO. That is why I never play the games that are not free and keep myself out of the whole thing. Too much headache. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] deal or no deal
Hello there, I am a fledgling Visual Basic 6 programmer. I ran across source code on www.planet-source-code.com site for the game deal or no deal. I was able to compile this game and use it with Jaws cursor. it seems to be the british version with pounds rather than dollars. I am trying to convert this code to full audio for blind folks to use it. don't ask me when I will finish, as with all others up here...family/life demands keep me from my programming hobby. I am cutting out audio clips from the real show to use in the game. I'll let u know more when I get more of this project done. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] achaea
Achaea is a decent mud but I need help. If there is anyone out there who plays Achaea and would not mind helping a beginner pleae write me off list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john snowling Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:09 PM To: audyssey Subject: [Audyssey] achaea Hi Parham. What is this game or mud and where can you find it at sounds very interesting. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Star Trek Final Conflict
On 7/26/08, John Bannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, No. I'm neither blind nor (to be honest) much of a gamer. Like Thomas, Jim, and the others, I'm a computer programmer who likes to build games. I got interested in software accessibility while working at Kurzweil. We were told that the reading machine at that time contained an audio copy of Zork. That gave me the idea. When the opportunity came along for a bunch of us to start our own game company, I made it a requirement that as many games as possible be as accessible as possible, including blindness, vision impairment, color blindness, deafness, motion impairment, and cognitive impairment. Being Head Geek helps. So I'm active in the Boston Visually Impaired and Blind Users Group, the Boston Voice Users Group, the International Game Developers Association - Game Accessibility special interest group, and some other groups. The VIBUG group meets at the Braille Press offices in Boston. Check out their web site at www.vibug.org. Making software accessible is an interesting challenge and has led me to meet some really neat people. You'll find a lot of them here at Audyssey. Mauricio, The URL is: www.7128.com. The Company name is 7-128 Software. (as in 7 people living within highway 128 here in Boston) Happy gaming, John Bannick Chief Technology Officer 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was looking to a game you suggest to me. The game was Star Treck Final Conflict I followed one of the links you sent me and tried getting the game. I am having trouble getting the game to work on my system, I think it is because I need something called Microsoft Frame Work and I need to have a file I think it is called DB9. I am not sure, but could use some help if you could offer me some. I am not to sure about this stuff. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Game Cracking
Hi Parham, Not true. I have installed Ubuntu Linux 8.04 on my laptop, and Orca works great with Firefox 3.0. It works a lot better than the 2.x versions. I don't know where you got the information Orca doesn't work with Firefox 3, but it isn't true at least with the latest builds of Orca and Firefox 3.0. As far as training courses goes you have a point there. Most colleges, universities, and vocational schools haven't yet added Linux to their training courses. At least not for the casual or average student. I did have Linux for my Computer Science degree, but then again that was only because it was emerging as a leader in server side software at that time. However, as far as using shell commands like ls, cd, mkdir, etc there isn't much demand to know that sort of thing since the majority of the stuff is now graphical just like Windows. Many distributions of Linux such as Ubuntu have done a lot of work the passed year or two in trying to make Linux as user friendly as Windows and for the most part it is if you get the right distribution. Problem is there are some Linux makers out there that don't care about user friendliness, and they make all the other companies that are doing it look bad. Finally, if you want to talk about reliability I would have to say I have found my Linux systems is far more stable and reliable than Windows. For one thing all the thousands upon thousands of Windows based viruses don't mean anything to Linux. Sure there are a handful of Linux viruses out there, but the actual probability of ever getting one is several thousand times less likely than getting a Windows based virus on a Windows computer. Both the dpkg and rpm package management systems are far more reliable than Windows Installer based installations. The main reason is that it will warn you if uninstalling a certain package will cause various programs to crash, and they have smart installers. For example, if you run the apt-get tool when installing a program it will see if all dependancies are met, and if not go to the Ubuntu Linux web site and grab the missing dependancies for you. Like if you install a game that requires mono and SDL and they are not installed it will first install them, or upgrade them to the required version, and then install your game. This is so much nicer than trying to figure out what version of Direct X a person has, if they have the .Net Framework, bla.In Linux it will just do the version check for you, and just do the necessary updates for you. As far as recovering from a crash I have not found too many times where the system crashed so bad I had to totally reboot the computer from scratch. If Ubuntu Linux does crash, like Orca does lock up, just doing an alt+control+backspace will kill the current Gnome session, take me back to the login screen, where I log back in and resume what I was doing. None of this Explorer has performed an illegal operation and must be shutdown crap I have to deal with in Vista. If Explorer crashes I usually have to wind up restarting the entire computer from scratch just to fix the problem. So reliability is something I respect in Linux. As for FreeBSD I have used it, but it is not my favorite OS. It is falling behind Linux somewhat when it comes to accessibility issues. I am not really all that impressed with FreeBSD's driver support. Their primary market is server side applications, and wasn't really meant for home user use like Linux is beginning to target. Parham wrote: Hi, speaking sighted-wise, it's because there are all these courses for learning Windows and such, and there are not much people who know how to use linux, let alone use it. My girlfriend who studied computers in highschool knows about LS and stuff. They teach them very basic stuff, and on a RedHat distro, so it's not reliable. Speaking blind-wise, I myself don't like Orca because of the support it doesn't provide. I mean it's wonderful and it's going to be great in a year or two -- but not now. FreeBSD still remains to be tested, though. I've heard Orca doesn't support Firefox 3 on it! --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] where are you living?Re: very important message to liamerven!
Hi Parham, Ah, now I do understand a little more why your friends might be into cracking. Last time I checked there were some U.S. trading laws that prohibits the selling of certain computer hardware and software to your country. Not only that, but the U.S. dollar is worth a lot more on the international exchange rate than the Iranian Rial. Acorrding to my currency converter it says one of my games is worth about 35000Rials in Iranian currency. That is a boat load of money just for a simple game. A new computer pre-loaded with Windows Vista would be a nightmare with that kind of international exchange rate. Parham wrote: Iran. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Hi Shaun, I do understand their logic, but still it doesn't make it right. I can't afford to buy a brand new car, but I can't just walk to the nearist car dealership and expect to steel a new car just because I can't pay for it. Although there is a major price diference between a new car and a new version of Windows. At some point steeling is steeling no matter how you want to justify it. shaun everiss wrote: I understand that part most software will not allow you to crack, decompile modify, or anything like that. However its a pitty you can't easily transfer stuff betwene your home systems when they change. Ok i can see the other viewpoint however I must say that I understand why the every day pirate feels justified, heck if I couldn't afford this stuff I'd feel justified. Its only because the laptops have their own copy and the fact that ebay exists that I don't and even then In the past I have been slow to buy expensive software, lets just say that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] bg uno
Hi Matheus. You cannot download any of the bg games from ian humphrey's site, you need to send him an E-mail at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and then he will e-mail you a copy of the game. It's stil perfectly free though. hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Matheus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] bg uno hi all! i have a problem trying to download the bg uno game. i can't download it, the link for download appear, but i can't click on it. someone have the link, or can pass to a ftp to i download? thanks so much. matheus --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] achaea
Hello Jonh, The website is www.achaea.com. The connection info is: Host name- Achaea.com Port number- 23 Hope this helps, Greg W. john snowling wrote: Hi Parham. What is this game or mud and where can you find it at sounds very interesting. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] achaea
Hi Greg. Thanks for this will take a look at it. - Original Message - From: Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] achaea Hello Jonh, The website is www.achaea.com. The connection info is: Host name- Achaea.com Port number- 23 Hope this helps, Greg W. john snowling wrote: Hi Parham. What is this game or mud and where can you find it at sounds very interesting. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3300 (20080725) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Miriani
Hi folks, does anybody else have trouble finding asteroids on miriani, I can haul them Ok, but I can never find them? Is it just me? Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Miriani
Hi Lindsey. Do you have msn? Isf so, add [EMAIL PROTECTED], and maybe I can help. Tj - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers List Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Miriani Hi folks, does anybody else have trouble finding asteroids on miriani, I can haul them Ok, but I can never find them? Is it just me? Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] game cracking
Yeah I know, but well it is what it is. I for example have an emergency copy of xp. This to be used if I ever run into issues betwene systems or someone else runs into issues. This will allow me to get what I would need in say a few weeks rather than right at this instant but yeah I know. At 10:13 a.m. 27/07/2008, you wrote: Hi Shaun, I do understand their logic, but still it doesn't make it right. I can't afford to buy a brand new car, but I can't just walk to the nearist car dealership and expect to steel a new car just because I can't pay for it. Although there is a major price diference between a new car and a new version of Windows. At some point steeling is steeling no matter how you want to justify it. shaun everiss wrote: I understand that part most software will not allow you to crack, decompile modify, or anything like that. However its a pitty you can't easily transfer stuff betwene your home systems when they change. Ok i can see the other viewpoint however I must say that I understand why the every day pirate feels justified, heck if I couldn't afford this stuff I'd feel justified. Its only because the laptops have their own copy and the fact that ebay exists that I don't and even then In the past I have been slow to buy expensive software, lets just say that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Miriani
Lindsay, I've never had a single problewm finding them, and I've only just started doing solo runs. if you've got MSN, add [EMAIL PROTECTED], and i'll be happy to give you a hand along with TJ. Aiden - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers List Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:24 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Miriani Hi folks, does anybody else have trouble finding asteroids on miriani, I can haul them Ok, but I can never find them? Is it just me? Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] achaea
Hi, It's a game from IronRealms Entertainment at http://www.achaea.com port 23 Remember, it's PK restricted, so you may get killed at some time past being a newbie. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: john snowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: [Audyssey] achaea Hi Parham. What is this game or mud and where can you find it at sounds very interesting. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] where are you living?Re: very important message toliamerven!
Hi Thomas, Yes. The trading is not allowed do to political reasons and conflicts that started about five or six years ago between United States and Iran, and still continues. The price would be converted to a reasonable thing if something is imported, but if I decide to buy something off the net -- bingo! --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] where are you living?Re: very important message toliamerven! Hi Parham, Ah, now I do understand a little more why your friends might be into cracking. Last time I checked there were some U.S. trading laws that prohibits the selling of certain computer hardware and software to your country. Not only that, but the U.S. dollar is worth a lot more on the international exchange rate than the Iranian Rial. Acorrding to my currency converter it says one of my games is worth about 35000Rials in Iranian currency. That is a boat load of money just for a simple game. A new computer pre-loaded with Windows Vista would be a nightmare with that kind of international exchange rate. Parham wrote: Iran. --- Contact info: Skype: parham-d MSN: fire_lizard16 at hotmail dot com email: parham90 at GMail dot com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
