Re: [Audyssey] RSW and sorting out world connections
I've been working on a text-based client to help navigate this data. I'll send you a link when I have a prototype ready. David On 2/23/2011 3:42 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: Ok, I know some of you are participating in a test game of RSW. How are people sorting out the world connections and data? After the first three turns, there are enough worlds that it's becoming very complex to maintain the topology of the map from just the turn reports. Have any of you come up with any brilliant tools for organizing this information? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Game abbreviations...
Yes, RSW doesn't Google well. The game can be found at http://rswgame.com . David On 2/23/2011 4:56 PM, Frost wrote: Well, I just looked up RSW on Google, and got a stock report and something about SouthWest Florida International airport, and I'm figuring this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the game previously mentioned, whatever the hell it is. Thank you for wasting my bandwidth. Michael --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW test game?
Hi Chris, Sorry, that game has already started. Maybe we should start up another test game? David On 1/30/11 8:14 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: What is the id for the test game in RSW that David Rose set up? I've joined a different game, but I should probably join the test game as well. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW test game?
Hi Chris, Right, absolute position is completely irrelevant, and (generally) isn't provided to the sighted player either. In fact, the graphical client is only a data management tool, and it works solely with the data provided in the text report--no data other than that is available to any players. Other people on this board have expressed an interested in a Classic or Advanced game.If I started one of these, how many people would want to join? Of course, I don't want people to feel overwhelmed by too many games at once. David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
OK! Attached is a sample text report for another game I'm involved in. This is turn 11 in a Classic game; there are quite a few details to process there, but it contains all of the same information that is available in the graphical client. I already set up a private game for one curious player who contacted me directly. Why don't we do that again, we can have a private game for all the possibly-interested people on this list, just to try out the rules and see how the game works. I can set up a Core game, which is usually a better choice for a beginner because the rules are a bit simpler. How many people would be interested? Zack, Dark, anyone else? David On 1/28/2011 9:10 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, Agreed. A sample turn would be nice. I'm eager for my current game to start, but would love to have an idea of what I was getting into beforehand. Best and thanks, Zack. -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: rains8r_Chargerman_11.txt URL: http://audyssey.org/pipermail/gamers_audyssey.org/attachments/20110128/c7d13bba/attachment.txt --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
Hi Anouk, Yes, everyone should receive an email when the game begins, which will be at 4:00 PM PST (1:00 AM CET). Of course it isn't necessary for you to be online at that late hour; the game will wait for you. :) I'll see all of you in the game! David On 1/29/11 5:18 AM, Anouk Radix wrote: Hi, I registered via email yesterday evening (Netherlands time) will I now get an email when the game starts? Greetings, Anouk, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
The URL is: http://rswgame.com Or send the word hello in the body (not the subject) to r...@rswgame.com . David On 1/29/11 9:46 AM, blindle...@aol.com wrote: what is the url to the stradigy game?lee ki4qlv --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
Hi Dark, Yes, the graphical map available to sighted players is the biggest potential barrier. Now, in the heyday of the play-by-mail games that RSW is inspired from, there was no such thing as a graphical map for anyone, and all players had to make their own maps out by hand, or go without. Nowadays, users expect computers to manage tasks like this for them; and it's true that the graphical RSW client does make map-making quite straightforward for the sighted user. A visually-impaired player, without the advantage of this graphical tool, will have to make a map by hand (I think a spreadsheet tool would be adequate for this task). But it is a fair amount of work to do this. So, there is an imbalance in the amount of effort that the visually-impaired player will have to put in, versus a sighted player. I've been thinking about this problem over the past couple of days. The current RSW client is not really well-suited for a screen reader. But I think I can, without too much effort, make a new version of the RSW client that is designed from the ground up with a screen reader in mind; and this tool can restore the advantage of effort. As our practice game progresses, perhaps you (and any other interested players) can provide suggestions for the most effective ways to navigate the map by voice prompts. I will also investigate these other games you suggest. Thanks! David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
Hi Shiny Protector, This game is a space battle. Players compete with each other for ownership of worlds and their resources which they use to build ships and fleets. It's a fairly straightforward (if complex) strategy game, along the same lines as Risk or similar board games, but it is played over several days or weeks on the internet. The game requires skill with diplomacy and negotiation, and/or with battle tactics and maneuvering, but has very little to do with philosophy. And I'm not sure what RS refers to. David On 11:59 AM, Shiny protector wrote: 2 Things. First, is this game about phelosiphy and RS? Second, I have know idea about your talking about. What is the game about exactly? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
Hi Sarah, I'm glad I had such fortunate timing. I look forward to hearing about your experiences--please let me know if anything is unclear or if it doesn't work as it should! David On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Sarah Haake wrote: taht's really cool. I just searched for such a game some while ago and couldn't find anything suitable. It either used grafical maps even in email responses or the game wasn't active anymore. So, your post comes just right for me. *smiles* --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
Hi Zack, I think my earlier response to your message must have gotten lost--my responses to other people on this list have finally shown up, but not this one. Odd. Maybe I replied using the wrong email address. Well, here it is again. Great, I'm looking forward to hearing about your experience! The complete game rules are available online via HTML, or as a downloadable PDF file--is one of these forms easier to read than the other? It occurs to me now that neither form is available via the email interface, but I could correct this. I could also provide it as a single one-page HTML file, and I could probably convert it to plain text as well. As to how I came to this list, well, I did seek it out. I was listing the features of RSW that make it uniquely different from all of the other free games on the web, and one of them that came to mind was its (at least theoretical) accessibility due to its nature. David On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hello, I've just signed up for my first game. I'm eager to see how it turns out, and will pass along any accessibility suggestions if I feel they're warranted. This sort of game is right up my alley, so I'm looking forward to the challenge. Out of interest, how did you stumble upon this list? It's rare for sighted people to pop up out of the woodwork, as it were. All the best, Zack. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Windows screen reader software?
Hi folks, My apologies if I bring up a question that has already been discussed to death, but I don't see anything about this in a casual browsing of the archives. At first I thought I didn't have any screen reader software, so I couldn't test the accessibility of my RSW website directly. But then I realized that every Mac has VoiceOver built-in, and it's quite nice! I've been going through my web pages with VoiceOver, and I've found a number of minor issues that I'll be correcting. But I'd hate to fine-tune my pages to VoiceOver's quirks only, without knowing about similar quirks in other software. In particular, what do Windows users typically use to browse the web? I see that Narrator is built-in to Windows, but it's almost unusable. Even Narrator itself recommends users buy a third-party program instead. So, if I were to purchase one such third-party program for the purpose of testing my website's accessibility under Windows, which program should it be? Thanks! David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software?
Thanks for the advice, everyone! NVDA and System Access are workable, but clumsy. JAWS is much nicer, it approaches VoiceOver in usability, but it's incredibly expensive (you could buy a new computer for less). Of course, I can use it in the free demo mode for my purposes, but do people really spend so much on JAWS? I guess the most important question is, what software do people actually use? I see after a quick inspection that all of these options read my webpages slightly differently. I don't want to waste time making it work well with a program that no one uses. Thanks, David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Windows screen reader software?
Thanks for the advice, everyone! I apologize for setting off a firecracker in your midst. :) I will continue to test with NVDA and back it up with an occasional check with JAWS and Window-Eyes on the PC, and VoiceOver on Mac. (The accessibility guidelines are useful, and of course I have been following them; but it's still important to know how actual implementations respond to webpages in practice. It's the same reason a web developer should always test his page on several different browsers.) David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
My previous email in this thread was lost, perhaps because the mail server software didn't like my attachment. (I had attached a sample order sheet.) But the more important part of that email was this: Why don't I create a private game for all the possibly-interested people on this list, just to try out the rules and see how the game works? I can set up a Core game, which is usually a better choice for a beginner because the rules are a bit simpler. How many people would be interested? Zack, Dark, Sarah? Anyone else? David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
OK, I've created a test game for anyone interested. The game ID is reserve5w. The easiest way to sign up for this game is to send an email to r...@rswgame.com with exactly the following line in the message body (not the subject): join game=reserve5w handle=myname where myname is your in-game name, which can be anything you like (without any spaces). You can also sign up via the web page at https://rswgame.com/en/listAvailable by entering reserve5w in the field at the bottom of the page, and clicking the Sign Up button. The game will begin in 24 hours, with whoever has signed up by that point. I'll walk everyone through the first few turns as we go. David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RSW strategy game
Followup: the RSW server will demand a challenge-response email from you when you send it the join command I described in my last message. Simply reply to this email to finalize the command. If the challenge-response gets annoying, you may disable it with the email command: user trust=yes David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] RSW strategy game
Greetings gamers, I'm the developer of RSW, an independent multiplayer strategy game. It's an homage to the classic play-by-mail games of the 1970's and 1980's, and it can still be played exactly as those games were played (though by email instead of postal mail). I develop this game in my free time, just because it makes me happy to do so. Although it wasn't specifically designed for the visually impaired, the fact that it retains the classic text-based interface makes it perfectly suited to allow visually-impaired players to compete equally with the sighted. (There is also a modern graphical client for those who prefer accessing the game in that way, but the game is fully functional via old-school turn reports and order sheets.) As a game, RSW isn't for everyone, but for detail-oriented people it can be very thrilling. It's turn-based, with turn times highly configurable and typically ranging from three to seven days per turn. Successful gameplay involves a lot of communication with other players; diplomacy and interaction are very important elements of the game (though there are also game variants that eliminate this communication). The game population is fairly small right now--about 10-20 active players--but I'm trying to spread the word and grow the player base, which will hopefully lead to more exciting games for everyone. If you think you might be interested, I'd love for you to check it out! Also, I'd love to know if there are problems accessing the website or the email interface. You can visit the website at http://rswgame.com , or if you prefer using email, send an email message with just the word hello in the body of the message (not the subject) to r...@rswgame.com . Thanks! David --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
