Re: [Audyssey] podcast of pkd games
I've gotta commend the team on the audio demo for Train Sim! It's very impressive! It can only improve from here... Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessibillidey in Second Life for Blind People?
There's a program called TextSL that is a text interface for SL. I (Stanley Rae) use it. http://textsl.org/ Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] New accessible train simulator in development
I remember one of those hard tracks. I was hauling oil on a 15 mile stretch to a small station. Passed 2 other stations, and had to adjust my speed quite a bit. Adjusted to 15 coming uphil into a station, to 40 as I left, and then to 30 in a steep downhil portion. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
I was told to get in contact with someone. I'd like to ask to be added to the list and dropbox for the project. As to another comment, NO you cannot race trains. I think there will be a system to work out regarding speed limits in upcomning blocks of track. For example, say you're going 80mph, coming towards a 40mph limit (entering station limits) with 2 miles to go. Or, you're at 15, and get clearance up to 40 as you leave the station. I'll see if I can find some math to crunch. On a sidenote, might the system include an ATO feature for new drivers? Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
I thought the same until I found myself engulfed for an hour on night, just reading about train signals and RTC (Rail Traffic Controllers, like ATC for aviation). It involves skill. You've got a timetable to keep to, along with signs and speed limits to obey. We just need to find a way to get these variables accessible. Obviously when you've got a timetable or a speed limit, the program is reading this data from somewhere. Hopefully we might find someone who could program a way for the SAPI interface in windows to read these variables when they change. That's my main guess as to accessibility. The main menu is partially accessible already, and I can translate the train and location descriptions into English if they're in Japanese. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
I'd love to take a listen to an audio demo, myself! Keep up the work. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] OT: Described Comics?
Here's THE PUNISHER MAX, Chapter 1. Just recorded. Tell me what you think. heh http://www.sendspace.com/file/s17o5w Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
Good news. I've done some poking around an I've found an open-source Train Sim. It's called Open BVE. The main menu is the most accessible of the Train Sims I've tried. Here's my rundown. Keep in mind this is days old in my head, so it hasn't been fleshed out much. OpenBVE: Main Menu partially accessible. There's a radio button with Start new game, Review last game, Controls, and Options that I can't get to with NVDA. MSTS (Microsoft Train Simulator): Main menu not accessible. Railworks: Main menu not accessible. Trainz 2009: Main menu not accessible. Download site: http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/common/openbve_stable.zip Dependencies: http://openbve.trainsimcentral.co.uk/use/download_windows.html -Follow this! Took me a few hours of tinkering to finally get it to work. Maybe I can ZIP a working copy for others. Youtube vid with audio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLhUXfKGt-Y -Sounds quite good for freeware! Since OpenBVE is open-source, we might be able to ask the developers to add sounds to actions (brakes release, brakes applied, etc) and indicators for variables (speed, block speed limit, next block speed, signal status, etc etc) I've used an old program, FS2002FA, to issue voice commands to the sim, and it seems to work great. Increase throttle, Emergency brake, and so on. I'll try to make an audio demo next week after my hellish gov't final is done. Let's hope this can be made a reality! Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Partially Accessible Train Sim found
I'll check out OpenBVE. I believe it has missions. Freight and passenger. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Train simulators
Ahoy. Just letting the group know that I've started tinkering with the accessibility of Train Simluators, or howto make them accessable. Testing MSTS (MS Train Simulator), Railworks, and Trainz 2009. Will report back. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Flyin on schedule
There's been a change in the way we'll be connecting to the Flyin today. If you've got IYP ready, join Come Fly with Me and conenct to CHANNEL 16 (SIXTEEN) Yahoo! Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Flyin, April 01 2009
I'll be running an ATC flyin on April 1st, at 2200 Zulu / 1700(5PM) central time / 1800(6PM) Eastern. Anybody with Flight Simulator 2004, IYP, and Teamspeak is welcome to connect. You'll need to email me to get the IP address. Thanks, and hope to see you in the skies. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BPP Flyin, AUGUST 01 2009
OOPS, darned autocomplete... The flyin is scheduled for August 1st. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Blind Pilot
I plan to host another flyin on Saturday. No one came, so I worked for about 4 hours on Sunday with 3 pilots who wanted some practice. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gma games on chinese Xp
Have you tried Applocale? http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/apploc.mspx I use it to run Japanese software on my English system. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BPP Flyin, July 25 2009
Just a reminder, the BPP Flyin is still on schedule. All systems go... Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Flyin, July 25 2009
I'll be running an ATC flyin tomorrow, July 25, at 2200 Zulu / 1700(5PM) central time / 1800(6PM) Eastern. Anybody with Flight Simulator 2004, IYP, and Teamspeak is welcome to connect. You'll need to email me to get the IP address. Thanks, and hope to see you in the skies. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Flyin, July 18 2009
Connect at your own risk. :) A severe thunderstrom is in the area, and I see lightning outside the window. I may need to shut down in case of power outage to protect my PC stuff. Or, the storm may knock me offline. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BPP: ZOA Flyin ON SCHEDULE
I'm going to nab this nearly verbatum from one of Zack's previous posts, since he put it so well. Hope ye don't mind, Zack! :) Harun will be running an ATC flyin today, July 17, at 05:00 central time, 6 Eastern. Anybody with Flight Simulator 2004, IYP, and Teamspeak is welcome to connect. You'll need to email Harun to get the IP address. Please respect his wishes and don't spread the address on list. Thanks, and hope to see you in the skies. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Flyin, July 17 2009 RESCHEDULED
Ahoy. The Flyin for July 17th has been postponed to Saturday July 18th at 22Z / 17CST / 5PM. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Cesna in fs2004 and its your plane
Can you give any more info? Did you: -Perform the landing checkist? -Make sure the flaps were down? -Have the IAS high enough so you wouldn't stall? -Come in a bit too steep? Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP: ZOA Flyin, Fri July 17 2009
Ahoy. I'll be hosting as Air Traffic Controller for a flyin on Friday July 17 2009, at 2200 Zulu (1700/5PM Central) for Oakland Center (ZOA). If you don't know about the flyins, here's a sample. http://www.sendspace.com/file/62be06 If you'd like to join, you need FS9, IYP, and Teamspeak. Tutorial - Setting up Teamspeak: http://audyssey.org/pipermail/gamers_audyssey.org/2009-July/047122.html You can contact me via PM, MSN, or Skype on the day of the flyin to get connection info. DO NOT ASK FOR CONNECTION INFO ON THE LIST. Hope to see you in the skies! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Radar Contact: TTS Voices as ATC
Ahoy! http://www.sendspace.com/file/319l6j I've just made a test for adding TTS Voices as ATC controllers, and the first test (Scansoft Tom) worked great. I'm looking for other people who could handle the CPU workload of converting the script files (around 1400 txt files) into mp3, and then process them with other TTS Voices. I've used: Textaloud for converting TXT to mp3. And Goldwave for snipping the silence, converting to unsigned PCM WAV, and normalizing. Each voice is about 10MB to download when finished. I'm hoping that we can get different voices with different accents. Anyone interested? Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Radar Contact: TTS Voices as ATC
Radar Contact is for Single Player flying. It uses different voices. It dosen't have anything to do with multiplayer. Perhaps I could find a way to use TTS to automate the ATIS, as other airports have... --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP 2009-07-11 Flyin RESULTS and AUDIO
Ahoy! We had a blast at the first BPP flyin, Saturday July 11, 2009. 1 controller and 1 participant. Download MP3 of session: http://www.sendspace.com/file/62be06 MP3 Duration: 15m30s Areas controlled: ORD - Chicago MSP - Minneapolis Highlights: -Controller (Harun) got turned around and sent the pilot (Learjet 2ZK) in circles before handoff to MSP_CTR ! -Successful landing by Learjet 2ZK. (Not to mention successful controlling... No casualties!) Hope to see others next week! Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Flyin, July 10 2009
Ahoy. I'll be (attempting to) host a Flyin tonight, Friday July 10 2009, at 2200 Zulu (1700/5PM Central) for Minneapolis Center (ZMP). If you'd like to join, you need FS9, IYP/FSNav, and Teamspeak. Also, try to use flightplans. You can contact me on PM to get connection information. Hope to see you in the skies! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Flyin, July 10 2009 POSTPONED
Ahoy. The Flyin for July 10th has been postponed to July 11th at 22Z / 17CST / 5PM. Will try to work on a guide for setting up and connecting software. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BPP Flyin, July 10 2009 POSTPONED
Of course there will be. I'll write it into the guide. You can just connect to Teamspeak and listen. :) Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Tutorial: How to connect to (or observe) Fly-ins with Teamspeak
How to connect to (or observe) BPP Fly-ins with Teamspeak by Harun Part 1. Obtaining Teamspeak Part 2. Setting up Teamspeak Part 3. Connecting to Teamspeak server Links: Teamspeak: http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads So, you've heard about an upcoming Fly-in for the BPP and you'd like to listen in? Or perhaps you'd like to get in a plane and practice your ATC lingo and ask questions before heading on VATSIM? Either way, the ATC comms with Teamspeak give everyone a better sense of flying realism. Note: DO NOT SHARE IP ADRESS ON THE LIST. This is a personal rule, for security reasons. If you need it you can email me, or Skype me. === Part 1: Downloading Teamspeak We use Teamspeak to connect for voice communication in ATC sessions. 1. Goto http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=downloads 2. Download Teamspeak 3. Install Teamspeak. === Part 2: Configuring Teamspeak. 1. Select Settings, then Sound Input Settings. 2. Tab down to Voice Send Method. 3. Choose Push to talk. 4. Select the Set button. 5. Press a key on the keyboard that you want to use for communication. (I use Left Control.) 6. Select Close. === Part 3: Connecting to Teamspeak Server. 1. When an event is scheduled, contact the coordinator to obtain the IP address for the voice comms. 2. Go into Teamspeak. 3. Select Connection, Quick Connect. 4. In the Server Address box, enter the IP you were given. 5. Enter your nickname. 5A. If you are flying, enter your call sign Example, LM4 (Landmark 4) or SWA91 (Southwest 91). 5B. If you are just observing, please write OBS_ (OBS underscore) before your name. Example, OBS_Harun. 6. Press Connect. Don't worry about login name or password. === A few friendly notes. 1. If you are observing, do not chatter. Use Skype or MSN. Leave the comms open for the pilots and ATC. It's fine to ask questions, though. 2. Be aware that session audio may be recorded. I like to keep an archive of my performance. If you'd like a copy of the session, contact me. 3. DO NOT SHARE IP ADRESS ON THE LIST. This is a personal rule, for security reasons. If you need it, you can email me, or Skype me. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP Tutorial: Setting up Real-World Routes for use on VATSIM
Blind Pilot's Project Tutorial Setting up Real-World Routes for use on VATSIM By Harun I am using NVDA, so JFW output may be different. We want our flights to be a realistic as possible, so we will be using real world pilot routes. There are TWO methods to use. The first will be checking SIMROUTES to see if any routes already exist. If they do exist, then you can download the flight plan in FS9 format and Squawkbox format, ready to go. The second method involves looking into real world flight data, and using a flight plan to put it into SIMROUTES. We will be using two websites to setup these routes. SimRoutes: http://www.simroutes.com/ Flightaware IFR Route Analyzer: http://flightaware.com/statistics/ifr-route/ === Method 1: Finding a route from SIMROUTES. Tab around until you find the 'help' link. Then tab once. You will enter an edit box. This is the departure ICAO entry box. Enter KSJC. Tab again to find the destination ICAO entry box. Enter KLAX. Activate the 'Find Plans' button. If plans are available, there will be a table under the 'Find Plans' button. It will have the Origin, Route, Destination, Distance in Miles (NM), Type (Low altitude or High altitude airways), and Comments. Let's choose the second route. Notice that the 'Route' (SJC9 AVE SADDE6) is clickable. That is what we want. KSJC SJC9 AVE SADDE6 KLAX 287 HI For turbojet aircraft. Analysis: KSJC-KLAX via SJC9 Sid, then AVE transition from SADDE6 STAR into KLAX. It is a HI altitude airway route, and a distance of 287 miles. On the next screen, you will be provided a TON of information. Tab down until you hear something like Boeing 747-400 Domestic no winglets. This is the aircraft list. Select your aircraft. This is important, because it tells the ATC your max TAS and VS limits. Tab again to hear your aircraft's TAS (B74D is 505). Tab across the file online button, do not press it. Tab once again and you will hear a list like 747PIC.� This is the export selection list. We want to export to FS9 and Squawkbox (if flying online) formats. For FS9, select FS2004 FS9 (3 of 11). For Squawkbox, select Squawkbox 3 (9 of 11). Tab one last time and you will hear the Download flight plan button. Press it, and you will be given a download screen. This contains the file you want to use. If you are in VISTA, you want to place this file in your My Flights folder. Mine would be C:\Users\Harun\Documents\Flight Simulator Files If you are in XP, then it is in your My documents folder. === Method 2: Finding a route from Flightaware and inputting it into SIMROUTES. 1. Find the text Need to find a flight?� Then tab once. You will enter an edit box. This is the departure ICAO entry box. Enter KSJC. Tab again to find the destination ICAO entry box. Enter KLAX. Tab again and activate the Find Flights! button. 2. Find the Route Analysis Summary table. Tab down or use the arrow keys. You will find five columns. Frequency - The number of pilots who chose this route to fly. (Guess) Origin - The Origination airport in ICAO format. Destination - The Destination airport in ICAO format. Altitude - The altitude that was flown, in thousands of feet. Full Route - The route, including SID and STAR that was used. Let's analyze this route. I have selected the first line of the table. 12 KSJC KLAX 41000 SJC9 MOONY AVE SADDE6 Frequency - 12 Origin - KSJC Destination - KLAX Altitude - 41000 Full Route - SJC9 MOONY AVE SADDE6 Copy the Full Route information to the clipboard. This route tells us that we will be taking off from KSJC. We will be using the SJC9 SID with the MOONY transition. We will climb to 41000 feet. Finally, we will take the AVE transition into the SADDE6 STAR. We can see the flight strip like this: KSJC SJC9.MOONY AVE.SADDE6 KLAX Notice the period in the SID and STAR. It connects the SID/STAR and the transition. If it is a SID, we see SID.TRANSITION . If it is a STAR, we see TRANSITION.STAR . Here is a verbose-ish depiction of the flight strip. KSJC (space) SJC9 SID (period) MOONY transition (space) AVE transition (period) SADDE6 STAR (space) KLAX Now, let's go to SIMROUTES to enter the data and get our flight plan. When you are at SIMROUTES, shift-tab backwards to find Generate Routes.� Here we find six fields. Departure Edit box. SID (don't bother). Route (where we place our flight strip). Arrival (destination airport). STAR (don't bother). So, through the six fields, we would enter: KSJC for destination ICAO. TAB over the SID. Enter our flight strip into the ROUTE edit box (SJC9 MOONY AVE SADDE6) KLAX for arrival ICAO. TAB over the STAR. Press Generate Route. On the next screen, you'll be provided a TON of information. Tab down until you hear something like Boeing 747-400 Domestic no winglets. This is the aircraft list. Select your aircraft. This is important, because it tells the ATC your max TAS and VS limits. Tab again
Re: [Audyssey] BPP Tutorial: Setting up Real-World Routes for use on VATSIM
Oops, I've made a mistake in method 2. Our flight strip route looks like: KSJC SJC9.MOONY AVE.SADDE6 KLAX You DO need to enter the SID and STAR into the edit boxes on the Generate Routes page. After you enter KSJC into the departure ICAO, tab and search for the SID.TRANSITION you're looking for. In this case, it's SJC9.MOONY . You can leave the ROUTE field blank if you'd like. For the STAR, enter the TRANSITION.STAR you're looking for. In this case, it's AVE.SADDE6 . Then, hit 'generate route'. Sorry for the mixup. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP: Looking for ATC Fodder
Ahoy. I've decided to start learning ATC, so I can become a controller on VATSIM. (I'm low partial.) However, since I'm not certified yet, I'll need practice outside the training simulator I use. You can connect via FS2004, and I can practice giving departure and approach clearances. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audio - I'm an ATC Controller 3
Ahoy. I've found some audio from an inaccessible Japanese ATC Simulator. It sounds great, somewhat like VATSIM. http://www.sendspace.com/file/4dghww Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] FS Flight Training
Ahoy. Here's some flight training that I learned from, a few years back. It'll help any new pilot, I'm sure. http://www.sendspace.com/file/io9jy2 http://www.sendspace.com/file/riq3ml Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Around the World in a Douglas DC-3
FSNav can be used for visual approaches. It dosen't use ILS at all. It just uses math. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Collaborative Writing?
Does anyone know of an accessible online service that we could use to write and share documents? I tried Google Docs, but a friend told me it wasn't accessible. I'd like to start outlining a text version of the BPP and FS movements. Software, problems, setup, etc, so people could add new things, or get an overview in one location. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Around the World in a Douglas DC-3
Then we'll have to find a route for this old bird that uses ILS runways... I'll start on it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on permanant home for bpp audio
Thanks for offering to host the files. The old FS2002 files are for nostalgia, you could say, or a history of the project. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Around the World in a Douglas DC-3
Hey, Zack. FSNav does support ILS Approach mode, but I've watched a plane land itself on a full visual approach. When you set an autoroute to a visual airport, the program does some math to figure out the correct altitudes and descent rates. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BPP: RTW DC-3: Legs 01-10
Around the World in a Douglas DC-3: Legs 01-10 I've fixed the first 10 legs of the trip, so you fly to ILS airports. 3 columns. Flight number, Departure ICAO code, Destination ICAO code. See you in the skies! === Helsinki Vantaa, Finland 1--EFHK--EYPA Palanga Intl, Lithuania 2--EYPA--UKLL Lviv INTL, Ukraine 3--UKLL--LROP Henri Coanda, Romania 4--LROP--LTBA Ataturk, Turkey 5--LTBA--LTAI Antalya, Turkey 6--LTAI--HECA Cairo INTL, Eypt 7--HECA--HELX Luxor INTL, Egypt 8--HELX--HESN Khartoum, Sudan 9--HESN--HSSS Entebbe INTL, Uganda 10--HSSS--HUEN === --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] audio from blind pilots website
I would really appreciate that. Thanks for offering! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question about flight simulator 2004 and jfw
http://blindpilotsproject.blogspot.com/ Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Radar Contact
Overview of RC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4933z1 Just a few words of note for anyone who's going to try using IYP and Radar Contact. -Descents in 747-400 seem to max out the Vertical Speed at -2400 feet per minute, no matter how small the incriments. You can set the vertical speed. You can say Set vertical speed to 1800, to set the VS to -1800 feet per minute. The 737-400 doesn't have this problem, to my knowledge. -If you've got the 'weather' option set in RC settings for HOLDING, then you may be asked to do a few laps, until traffic clears up or weather inproves. When ATC gives clearance to proceed, switch GPS switch on, and turn NAV mode on. If the controller tells you to descent in 1,000 feet incriments, this may be an indication that you're coming in for a visual approach... I'm trying to figure out a way around this. Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Around the World in a Cessna 182
Around the World in a Cessna 182 Source: http://snbworld.com/aroundtheworld/flightlog.html 4 columns. Flight number, Route info, Departure ICAO code, Destination ICAO code. You could use the Cessna 172SP also, in FS9. ENJOY Flight Number--Route InfoDeparture ICAO--Destination ICAO 1--Salt Lake City, Utah -- to Tucson, Arizona --KSLC--KTUS 2--Tucson, Arizona -- to La Paz, Mexico --KTUS--MMLP 3--La Paz, Mexico -- to Guadalajara, Mexico --MMLP--MMGL 4--Guadalajara, Mexico -- to Acapulco, Mexico --MMGL--MMAA 5--Acapulco, Mexico -- to Guatemala City, Guatemala --MMAA--MGGT 6--Guatemala City, Guatemala -- to Managua, Nicaragua --MGGT--MNMG 7--Managua, Nicaragua -- to Panama City, Panama --MNMG--MPTO 8--Panama City, Panama -- to Cali, Colombia --MPTO--SKCL 9--Cali, Colombia -- to Guayaquil, Ecuador --SKCL--SEGU 10--Guayaquil, Ecuador -- to Trujillo, Peru --SEGU--SPRU 11--Trujillo, Peru -- to Lima, Peru --SPRU--SPLP 12--Lima, Peru -- to Arequipa, Peru --SPLP--SPQU 13--Arequipa, Peru -- to Antofagasta, Chile --SPQU--SCFA 14--Antofagasta, Chile -- to Santiago, Chile --SCFA--SCEL 15--Santiago, Chile -- to Valdivia, Chile --SCEL--SCVD 16--Valdivia, Chile -- to Comodoro Rivadavia, Argentina --SCVD--SAVC 17--Comodoro Rivadavia, Argentina -- to Punta Arenas, Chile --SAVC--SCCI 18--Punta Arenas, Chile -- to Rio Grande, Argentina --SCCI--SAWE 19--Rio Grande, Argentina -- to Base Marambio --SAWE--SAWB 20--Base Marambio --, Antarctica to Isla Rey Jorge, Antarctica --SAWB--SCRM 21--Isla Rey Jorge, Antarctica -- Stanley, Falkland Islands --SCRM--SFAL 22--Stanley, Falkland Islands -- to Trelew, Argentina --SFAL--SAVT 23--Trelew, Argentina -- to Buenos Aires, Argentina --SAVT--SAEZ 24--Buenos Aires, Argentina -- to Montevideo, Uruguay --SAEZ--SUMU 25--Montevideo, Uruguay -- to Porto Alegre, Brazil --SUMU--SBPA 26--Porto Alegre, Brazil -- to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil --SBPA--SBGL 27--Rio de Janeiro, Brazil -- to Brasilia, Brazil --SBGL--SBBR 28--Brasilia, Brazil -- to Alta Floresta, Brazil --SBBR--SBAT 29--Alta Floresta, Brazil -- to Manaus, Brazil --SBAT--SBEG 30--Manaus, Brazil -- Macapa, Brazil --SBEG--SBMQ 31--Macapa, Brazil -- to Paramaribo, Suriname --SBMQ--SMZO 32--Paramaribo, Suriname -- to Georgetown, Guyana --SMZO--SYCJ 33--Georgetown, Guyana -- to Ciudad Bolivar, Venezuela --SYCJ--SVCB 34--Ciudad Bolivar, Venezuela -- to Caracas, Venezuela --SVCB--SVMP 35--Caracas, Venezuela -- to Barranquilla, Colombia --SVMP--SKBQ 36--Barranquilla, Colombia -- to San Jose, Costa Rica --SKBQ--MROC 37--San Jose, Costa Rica -- to San Pedro Sula, Honduras --MROC--MHLM 38--San Pedro Sula, Honduras -- to Merida, Mexico --MHLM--MMMD 39--Merida, Mexico -- to New Orleans, Louisiana --MMMD--KMSY 40--New Orleans, Louisiana -- to Knoxville, Tennessee --KMSY--KTYS 41--Knoxville, Tennessee -- to Toronto, Ontario --KTYS--CYYZ 42--Toronto, Ontario -- to Montreal, Quebec --CYYZ--CYUL 43--Montreal, Quebec -- to Halifax, Nova Scotia --CYUL--CYHZ 44--Halifax, Nova Scotia -- to St. Johns, Newfoundland --CYHZ--CYYT 45--St. Johns, Newfoundland -- to Cartwright, Newfoundland --CYYT--CYCA 46--Cartwright, Newfoundland -- to Nain, Newfoundland --CYCA--CYDP 47--Nain, Newfoundland -- to Iqualuit, Nunavut --CYDP--CYFB 48--Iqualuit, Nunavut -- to Maniitsoq, Greenland --CYFB--BGMQ 49--Maniitsoq, Greenland -- to Kulusuk, Greenland --BGMQ--BGKK 50--Kulusuk, Greenland -- to Nerlerit Inaat, Greenland --BGKK--BGCO 51--Nerlerit Inaat, Greenland -- to Longyear, Norway --BGCO--ENSB 52--Longyear, Norway -- to Tromso, Norway --ENSB--ENTC 53--Tromso, Norway -- to Trondheim, Norway --ENTC--ENVA 54--Trondheim, Norway -- to Oslo, Norway --ENVA--ENGM 55--Oslo, Norway -- to Inverness, Scotland --ENGM--EGPE 56--Inverness, Scotland -- to London, UK --EGPE--EGKK 57--London, UK -- to Le Mans, France --EGKK--LFRM 58--Le Mans, France -- to Madrid, Spain --LFRM--LEMD 59--Madrid, Spain -- to Casablanca, Morocco --LEMD--GMMC 60--Casablanca, Morocco -- to Agadir, Morocco --GMMC--GMAD 61--Agadir, Morocco -- to La Palma, Canary Islands --GMAD--GCLA 62--La Palma, Canary Islands -- to Nouachott, Mauritania --GCLA--GQNN 63--Nouachott, Mauritania -- to Dakar, Senegal --GQNN--GOOY 64--Dakar, Senegal -- to Bamako, Mali --GOOY--GABS 65--Bamako, Mali -- to Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso --GABS--DFFD 66--Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso -- to Cotonou, Benin --DFFD--DBBB 67--Cotonou, Benin -- to Yaounde, Cameroon --DBBB--FKYS 68--Yaounde, Cameroon -- to Kinshasa, Congo DRC --FKYS--FZAA 69--Kinshasa, Congo DRC -- to Luanda, Angola --FZAA--FNLU 70--Luanda, Angola -- to Huambo, Angola --FNLU--FNHU 71--Huambo, Angola -- to Oshakati, Namibia --FNHU--FYOS 72--Oshakati, Namibia -- to Windhoek, Namibia --FYOS--FYWH 73--Windhoek, Namibia -- to Alexander Bay, South Africa --FYWH--FAAB 74--Alexander Bay, South Africa -- to Cape Town, South Africa --FAAB--FACT 75--Cape Town, South Africa -- to Bloemfontein, South Africa --FACT--FABL
[Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Around the World in a Douglas DC-3
Around the World in a Douglas DC-3 Source: http://kesaniemi.kapsi.fi/fs2004/ 3 columns. Flight number, Departure ICAO code, Destination ICAO code. ENJOY Flight Number, Departure ICAO, Destination ICAO === 1--EFHK--UMKK 2--UMKK--UKLL 3--UKLL--LROP 4--LROP--LTBA 5--LTBA--LTAI 6--LTAI--HECA 7--HECA--HELX 8--HELX--HEBL 9--HEBL--HSSS 10--HSSS--HSSM 11--HSSM--HSSJ 12--HSSJ--HUEN 13--HUEN--HTKJ 14--HTKJ--HKMO 15--HKMO--HCMK 16--HCMK--HCMM 17--HCMM--HCMO 18--HCMO--HCMG 19--HCMG--OYRN 20--OYRN--OOSA 21--OOSA--OOMA 22--OOMA--OPGD 23--OPGD--OPKC 24--OPKC--VIJO 25--VIJO--VIDP 26--VIDP--VNKT 27--VNKT--VE1N 28--VE1N--VEMN 29--VEMN--ZUUU 30--ZUUU--ZHHH 31--ZHHH--ZSPD 32--ZSPD--RKPC 33--RKPC--RJOA 34--RJOA--RJTT 35--RJTT--RJSK 36--RJSK--RJCO 37--RJCO--RJCN 38--RJCN--UHPP 39--UHPP--UHMA 40--UHMA--PATC 41--PATC--PAMC 42--PAMC--PANC 43--PANC--MYK 44--MYK--PAJN 45--PAJN--CYPR 46--CYPR--CYVR 47--CYVR--KPDX 48--KPDX--KRDD 49--KRDD--KSFO 50--KSFO--KLAX 51--KLAX--KPHX 52--KPHX--MMCU 53--MMCU--MMZC 54--MMZC--MMMX 55--MMMX--MMMT 56--MMMT--MGGT 57--MGGT--MROC 58--MROC--SEGS 59--SEGS--SPYL 60--SPYL--SPJB 61--SPJB--SPRM 62--SPRM--SPZO 63--SPZO--SPPL 64--SPPL--SASA 65--SASA--SACO 66--SACO--SAEZ 67--SAEZ--SBPA 68--SBPA--SBCT 69--SBCT--SBGL 70--SBGL--SNMX 71--SNMX--SBSV 72--SBSV--SBRF 73--SBRF--SBFN 74--SBFN--GVFM 75--GVFM--GQPP 76--GQPP--GMMH 77--GMMH--GCLP 78--GCLP--GMAD 79--GMAD--GMTT 80--GMTT--LERS 81--LERS--LSGS 82--LSGS--EDDI 83--EDDI--EFHK === --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Blind Pilots Project: Around the World in a Douglas DC-3
I'll need to rework some of these runways. The first flight was visual, and the airport didn't have an ILS... Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ms flight sim
Check out Nick's podcast for the best explaination. http://www.sendspace.com/file/i16hle Cheers, --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
