[Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine
Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine
that's because they put so much graphical content into the game and not much else there's very little replay value. also the system requirements for said games are becoming insane now. the pioneers of games such as elite are still being talked about today and for very very good reason. but i bet you 20 years down the line the games of today or the very vast majority of them won't have the same following. Sent from my iPad On 30 Oct 2013, at 07:45, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Very true. I know a lot of people who are disappointed with the current state of affairs with mainstream games for the Xbox, Play Station, Wii, etc. A lot of that has to do with the fact companies no longer build fun and interesting games with in depth plots or storylines. Instead they push killer 3d graphics, music, and sounds but have no actual game content to speak of. Just a case in point I recently looked at the latest Tomb Raider game, and it was awful. I'm sure it had cutting edge graphics, the sounds and music were great, but as for actual game play there was no plot or purpose to the game or so it seemed. A lot of mainstream games have those exact sorts of problems and it is ironic that the mainstream companies are killing themselves simply by focusing on the technical aspects, but not focusing on plot and character development. That's where we indie developers can compete with commercial mainstream developers by simply working more on character and plot developments. Cheers! On 10/30/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. that is unfortunately true, though of course it's not universal. My brother is a big dark souls fan precisely because! of the open ended story, detailed mechanics and complex world, though in fairness detailed games seem to be few and far between in the mainstream. This is also why games which originally were bought out 20 years ago still have followings and developments such as new levels being made today. Boulderdash, Elite, original prince of persia Turrican, king's quest, speedball to name a few I know about, (indeed the Turrican remakes I'm a big fan of). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine
I would love to see elite made accessible. I loved that game and hope it makes it to ios some day. -original message- Subject: Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine From: dark d...@xgam.org Date: 30:10:2013 2.31 pm Hi Tom. that is unfortunately true, though of course it's not universal. My brother is a big dark souls fan precisely because! of the open ended story, detailed mechanics and complex world, though in fairness detailed games seem to be few and far between in the mainstream. This is also why games which originally were bought out 20 years ago still have followings and developments such as new levels being made today. Boulderdash, Elite, original prince of persia Turrican, king's quest, speedball to name a few I know about, (indeed the Turrican remakes I'm a big fan of). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] text based games
Dark said: it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. There are such guidelines available at blindcomputergames.com. If there are things that need to be added, we would welcome suggestions from list members to improve them. Dark did make suggestions when we originally developed the guidelines. Are there particular things that would need to be added for developers making text based games that are not already included? Check it out and let us know if we need to change the guidelines. If not, use them as a basis to inform developers about improving the accessibility of their games. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine
thats true dark, I have an autistic game friend that is graphic hungry I have another friend that doesn't care and I have another blind friend who's father plays ages of empires and other adventures which both use mouse, graphics text and sound. Apart from the japanese games though a lot of stuff is bang bang and violent which is fine there are sports to but even so. its interesting the industry is shifting. I have noticed at least in nz the cd stores don't carry the variety of games and in deed software as they used to. As we move to the cloud it seems software distribution along with music and books are moving away from the physical media to something else. Yes you can buy just about everything you need to get online, and some games and such but even with physical media a lot of games have either by subscription or something an online mode. The game has a story which is usually ok but sometimes a crappy afterthought as 90% is for online use. so things are changing. At 08:45 PM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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yes and sadly that is what the industry is coming to. They don't want real games they just want crappy after crappy game. they have grone up just going bang, bang, bang. To change that is going to be hard. people like going bang for some reason never mind what sitting for hours bashing a game does to you. My brother has rsi because of his online playing over his teen years. The condition he has has no name, is rsi like and as far as we know not curable as such. he has to be carefull how he does things and the thing is perminant. So I know what heavy smashing does to a gamer or any system user. I don't seem to get this sort of hash but my aunt that does one or 22 tasks a day repeatedly does have something like that. At 08:54 PM 10/30/2013, you wrote: that's because they put so much graphical content into the game and not much else there's very little replay value. also the system requirements for said games are becoming insane now. the pioneers of games such as elite are still being talked about today and for very very good reason. but i bet you 20 years down the line the games of today or the very vast majority of them won't have the same following. Sent from my iPad On 30 Oct 2013, at 07:45, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine
That happened to me once, I worked out that it was because of my sitting position that's what messed me up. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: 30 October 2013 20:14 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine yes and sadly that is what the industry is coming to. They don't want real games they just want crappy after crappy game. they have grone up just going bang, bang, bang. To change that is going to be hard. people like going bang for some reason never mind what sitting for hours bashing a game does to you. My brother has rsi because of his online playing over his teen years. The condition he has has no name, is rsi like and as far as we know not curable as such. he has to be carefull how he does things and the thing is perminant. So I know what heavy smashing does to a gamer or any system user. I don't seem to get this sort of hash but my aunt that does one or 22 tasks a day repeatedly does have something like that. At 08:54 PM 10/30/2013, you wrote: that's because they put so much graphical content into the game and not much else there's very little replay value. also the system requirements for said games are becoming insane now. the pioneers of games such as elite are still being talked about today and for very very good reason. but i bet you 20 years down the line the games of today or the very vast majority of them won't have the same following. Sent from my iPad On 30 Oct 2013, at 07:45, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine
yeah things are certainly changing. But the gaming industry needs to pull its socks up seriously. No imagination I mean when was there a really good space game out last? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: 30 October 2013 19:58 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] text based games was: Re: Audyssey Magazine thats true dark, I have an autistic game friend that is graphic hungry I have another friend that doesn't care and I have another blind friend who's father plays ages of empires and other adventures which both use mouse, graphics text and sound. Apart from the japanese games though a lot of stuff is bang bang and violent which is fine there are sports to but even so. its interesting the industry is shifting. I have noticed at least in nz the cd stores don't carry the variety of games and in deed software as they used to. As we move to the cloud it seems software distribution along with music and books are moving away from the physical media to something else. Yes you can buy just about everything you need to get online, and some games and such but even with physical media a lot of games have either by subscription or something an online mode. The game has a story which is usually ok but sometimes a crappy afterthought as 90% is for online use. so things are changing. At 08:45 PM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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true, this excludes the japanese stuff which always seems to be good. Though the same could be with tv. used to battle to see what scifi program I'd watch. its not all reality and tallent. thats fine but real life on tv is not always the thing you want. At 01:50 AM 10/31/2013, you wrote: Hi Dark, Very true. I know a lot of people who are disappointed with the current state of affairs with mainstream games for the Xbox, Play Station, Wii, etc. A lot of that has to do with the fact companies no longer build fun and interesting games with in depth plots or storylines. Instead they push killer 3d graphics, music, and sounds but have no actual game content to speak of. Just a case in point I recently looked at the latest Tomb Raider game, and it was awful. I'm sure it had cutting edge graphics, the sounds and music were great, but as for actual game play there was no plot or purpose to the game or so it seemed. A lot of mainstream games have those exact sorts of problems and it is ironic that the mainstream companies are killing themselves simply by focusing on the technical aspects, but not focusing on plot and character development. That's where we indie developers can compete with commercial mainstream developers by simply working more on character and plot developments. Cheers! On 10/30/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. On the point of text based games it's actually interesting how many new games are being developed, look at choiceofgames on the iphone as a prime example. The only problem is not all of these are accessible. I was for example rather disappointed that the tinman series of gamebooks, perported to be extrra ports of the old 1980's publications have entirely unlabeled buttond, graphical dice etc. Thus, ti'd actually be great to include some articles to potential sighted developers of text based games on how to make their games accessible. most indi devs are pretty good about this and I've contacted many in my time, (most recently the developers of space odyssey and their other game astro galaxy), but it'd be great to have some actual guidelines which people could google. Btw, on the graphics front, I'll also add that while a lot of what you might call casual gamers are graphics mad (and usually fps mad), that isn't true about people who are interested in games! It's sort of the old one, kids who just want to listen to the latest manufactured bangin' popgroup won't think much to just a skilled musician with a single guitar, but people who appreciate good music will. It's also worth noting that according to my brother who tends to keep up with game industry news various people are being dissatisfied with the current state of the mainstream industry hence the greater amount of indi games, and indi games means accessible games, (as well as developers who actually are possible to talk to). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well thats why I like alter it is in the most point open ended. At 03:30 AM 10/31/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom. that is unfortunately true, though of course it's not universal. My brother is a big dark souls fan precisely because! of the open ended story, detailed mechanics and complex world, though in fairness detailed games seem to be few and far between in the mainstream. This is also why games which originally were bought out 20 years ago still have followings and developments such as new levels being made today. Boulderdash, Elite, original prince of persia Turrican, king's quest, speedball to name a few I know about, (indeed the Turrican remakes I'm a big fan of). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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It actually wouldn't be impossible to do darren, we've seen 3D flight sims ala zero site or tdv, and we've seen equipment and mission systems too.It'd be a lot of work to program of course, but it certainly wouldn't require anything extraodinary or anything beyond the techniques we've seem for audiogames thus far, - heck Zero site extended operations already! has 3D flight, random missions and stat tracking, albeit that is based on planes not spacecraft. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Eleanor. Oopse, it was silly of me to forget the sight, especially! since I've actually directed developers to those guidelines in the past. I'll have another look and a think about if there need to be any additions. All the best, Dark. - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Great list, have not been here for a while, as JAFS a scripted Jaws, using Best Strat-O-Matic Baseball SIM. With all players in history to chose from. Not finished Mister Ward emil and if this even makes it to the list. Do have a YouTube movie. And looking for a blind movie producer and director. Found a wonderful movie maker for the blind and as my JAFS (Jaws Accessible Field Scripts) have been completed for the following computer of Windows 7 and Jaws 13. The scripts has no arrays scripting, so even early set of Jaws can handle these, scripts that been a life of work. With as little keyboard naving here and thour. Looking for movie as well, musical performers or music director. I will have a contest to guess the music clip To give a chance to win For me been working hard learning Windows 7 and finsihing up on the newly named JAFS. Where you can keep your own notes and so darn much, I need a movie, LOL. And by writing this hoping can provide me a new thread, from Tommy. Crash not done yet. Have a new email, address wiht W7. And while clearing out emails on the old Vista, which the JAFS files will work. Strat-O-Matic, a text dos game that have had a few face changes, as well as my scripts, moving to a 32 bit and a 64 bit computer. JAFS with Arrays, will be injected on requested gamers. To due unseen, situations, I had to size down for my up coming bankruption. AS for me, dong OK, but my friends, do be watch for, for those, are those who like to steal from the blind on line and at your stores. There may be stealing even from the cameras now a days. Smiles, all can be a movie too, and looking to getting more involded in this area. Wondering if any ones of a emails group for blind movie makers email list. Crash Gary Whittington - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games. Hi Lindsay, There are actually quite a few depending on what OS you have and if you are able to run 16-bit and 32-bit applications. For example, there are the Richard Disteno games like Run for President, Atlantic City Blackjack, Dodge City Desperados, and Destination Mars. There are a number of older Dos apps like Piledriver, Wrestling League Manager, and Eamon Delux. That are relatively screen reader friendly. Plus there are the interactive fiction games that use an interpreter like Adrift, Winfrotz, Wintads, etc which there are litterally hundreds of games to choose from. So interactive fiction is a great place to start if you are looking for text adventures. Finally, I have been working on some text based games of my own which I hope to release for Mac, Linux, and Windows in time. As I am still in the process of development on those games I'll give more information when they become available. Cheers! On 5/31/13, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi All, What text based games are out there? Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Text based games
Lindsey, The Inspector Cyndi in Newport series from 7-128 Software are all text based games. They can either be self voiced with SAPI or read by a screen reader. If you have a 64 bit computer, you will have to use SAPI rather than JAWs. These games are mysteries set in Newport Rhode Island during the 1890's To solve them you have to question witnesses and figure out the culprit, motive, opportunity and method. These games can be found at our website, www.7128.com. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Text based games.
Hi All, What text based games are out there? Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lindsay, There are actually quite a few depending on what OS you have and if you are able to run 16-bit and 32-bit applications. For example, there are the Richard Disteno games like Run for President, Atlantic City Blackjack, Dodge City Desperados, and Destination Mars. There are a number of older Dos apps like Piledriver, Wrestling League Manager, and Eamon Delux. That are relatively screen reader friendly. Plus there are the interactive fiction games that use an interpreter like Adrift, Winfrotz, Wintads, etc which there are litterally hundreds of games to choose from. So interactive fiction is a great place to start if you are looking for text adventures. Finally, I have been working on some text based games of my own which I hope to release for Mac, Linux, and Windows in time. As I am still in the process of development on those games I'll give more information when they become available. Cheers! On 5/31/13, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi All, What text based games are out there? Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The text-based games aren't going away anytime soon. Cell phones are likely to keep them alive as will Linux which is replacing the operating systems Microsoft won't support anymore on home-based machines. The if-archive.org site along with supporting usenet newsgroups chronicle the ongoing creative activity and announcements of new games being produced. There's good reason not to attempt graphics-intensive stuff on cell phones primarily due to small screen sizes. Those small screen sizes when presented with graphics-intensive material get slowed down considerably which is why the wap standard had to be developed. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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For those that are playing agt games have you tried modifying the batch files that start up those games and putting the /v parameter on the line that actually runs the executables right after the name of the executable? I did that awhile back and ffor agt games that made them all work well with what screen readers I was using at that time. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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drdos is available and if used screen readers will work on it. If you get the full set, you can even run ethernet cards with it. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Text-based games aren't quite outdated yet.
So says a man making a documentary on them fairly shortly. Thought there'd be some people interested in this article, so... here ya go. Call it evidence it isn't just blind folk who're looking for games with more graphics than content. http://www.wired.com/news/culture/video/0,71573-0.html?tw=rss.index James ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Some dos games may be built to slow for todays boxes. For example Jim Kitchen's dos football game. On a 386 running under a 1 gig chip. The game runs good, but on a p4 the timing was off. Instead of getting 15 minute quarters you got around 5 or just a bit more. he addressed that issue with his self voicing football game and ported it to windows. At 01:59 PM 7/29/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! Oh, the other thing I forgot to mention is when I think of a double boot I am thinking of partitioning the drive in 2 parts. For example partition A would have windows, and windows based games and partition B would have dos and dos games on it. I think that wold work with no problem unless the speed of the computers today are too fast for dos. I don't know the specifics of dos. Blessings! - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Sure, because those ops i mentioned are the only ones that use dos as a op with windows as a shell. With xp, 2000 and up dos is emulated, and windows is no longer a shell. At 11:43 PM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! That interesting. Do you know why that is? - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games You can only boot to dos if your not running xp or 2000. Have to have either win95, 98 or me. At 09:43 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http
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You have to look at the properties of your drive. if its formatted in ntfs. Then those old versions of dos are dead. They do have a version that runs in that mode, but the speech programs won't. If the drive is all ntfs. You will have to redo the box with a 32bit partition for dos and then put xp back on the box. So it can set up the dual boot options. Once you ntfs a drive its not ease to get it back to 32 bit unless you wipe the whole drive and start over. At 01:12 PM 7/29/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! If a persone used dos 6.0, 7.0 , not the dos that comes with windows , but just a dos program the computer should be able to boot up in dos. Then a person could run dos games or other dos programs. I still have dos 5 and maybe six. At the computer speeds today I am assuming that is true, but I don't know that for sure since I haven't tried that since my 486 computer days. Blessings! - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Sure, because those ops i mentioned are the only ones that use dos as a op with windows as a shell. With xp, 2000 and up dos is emulated, and windows is no longer a shell. At 11:43 PM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! That interesting. Do you know why that is? - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games You can only boot to dos if your not running xp or 2000. Have to have either win95, 98 or me. At 09:43 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers
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Hi Trouble! Thank you for all that information. I sure wish I had the knowledge on computers you do. Blessings and Regards! - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games You have to look at the properties of your drive. if its formatted in ntfs. Then those old versions of dos are dead. They do have a version that runs in that mode, but the speech programs won't. If the drive is all ntfs. You will have to redo the box with a 32bit partition for dos and then put xp back on the box. So it can set up the dual boot options. Once you ntfs a drive its not ease to get it back to 32 bit unless you wipe the whole drive and start over. At 01:12 PM 7/29/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! If a persone used dos 6.0, 7.0 , not the dos that comes with windows , but just a dos program the computer should be able to boot up in dos. Then a person could run dos games or other dos programs. I still have dos 5 and maybe six. At the computer speeds today I am assuming that is true, but I don't know that for sure since I haven't tried that since my 486 computer days. Blessings! - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Sure, because those ops i mentioned are the only ones that use dos as a op with windows as a shell. With xp, 2000 and up dos is emulated, and windows is no longer a shell. At 11:43 PM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! That interesting. Do you know why that is? - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games You can only boot to dos if your not running xp or 2000. Have to have either win95, 98 or me. At 09:43 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
Hi Trouble! If a persone used dos 6.0, 7.0 , not the dos that comes with windows , but just a dos program the computer should be able to boot up in dos. Then a person could run dos games or other dos programs. I still have dos 5 and maybe six. At the computer speeds today I am assuming that is true, but I don't know that for sure since I haven't tried that since my 486 computer days. Blessings! - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Sure, because those ops i mentioned are the only ones that use dos as a op with windows as a shell. With xp, 2000 and up dos is emulated, and windows is no longer a shell. At 11:43 PM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! That interesting. Do you know why that is? - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games You can only boot to dos if your not running xp or 2000. Have to have either win95, 98 or me. At 09:43 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
Hi Trouble! Oh, the other thing I forgot to mention is when I think of a double boot I am thinking of partitioning the drive in 2 parts. For example partition A would have windows, and windows based games and partition B would have dos and dos games on it. I think that wold work with no problem unless the speed of the computers today are too fast for dos. I don't know the specifics of dos. Blessings! - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Sure, because those ops i mentioned are the only ones that use dos as a op with windows as a shell. With xp, 2000 and up dos is emulated, and windows is no longer a shell. At 11:43 PM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! That interesting. Do you know why that is? - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games You can only boot to dos if your not running xp or 2000. Have to have either win95, 98 or me. At 09:43 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
Sure, because those ops i mentioned are the only ones that use dos as a op with windows as a shell. With xp, 2000 and up dos is emulated, and windows is no longer a shell. At 11:43 PM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Hi Trouble! That interesting. Do you know why that is? - Original Message - From: Trouble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games You can only boot to dos if your not running xp or 2000. Have to have either win95, 98 or me. At 09:43 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
You can only boot to dos if your not running xp or 2000. Have to have either win95, 98 or me. At 09:43 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
when I open that site, I get this message: Zplet: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Please note that SAVE and RESTORE may not available due to applet security restrictions. Leaving this page may or may not restart the game depending on the behavior of your browser. I can't play the game or anything. Is there a reason? Perhaps it's not accessible. -Cary - Original Message - From: AudioGames.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~pot/infocom/hgg.html ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
Hi Cary, Try this direct link to the story file: http://www.xs4all.nl/~pot/infocom/hgg.z3 You will need a z file interpreter like WinFrotz TTS to play it. Phil - Original Message - From: Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games when I open that site, I get this message: Zplet: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Please note that SAVE and RESTORE may not available due to applet security restrictions. Leaving this page may or may not restart the game depending on the behavior of your browser. I can't play the game or anything. Is there a reason? Perhaps it's not accessible. -Cary - Original Message - From: AudioGames.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Here: http://www.xs4all.nl/~pot/infocom/hgg.html ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Phil, Thanks for this, but what do I need to open this? My Winfrots doesn't want to open this, I think it just opens .z5 files. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
Hi Ari, I thought any Frotz interpreter could open earlier versions. I think you need to open the file and type hgg.z3 typing in the file name and extension. I did not try it so good luck. Phil - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Phil, Thanks for this, but what do I need to open this? My Winfrots doesn't want to open this, I think it just opens .z5 files. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
my winfrotz tts opened it just fine. I also downloaded lurking horror, one of the games I've been looking for like forever. heh -Cary - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Ari, I thought any Frotz interpreter could open earlier versions. I think you need to open the file and type hgg.z3 typing in the file name and extension. I did not try it so good luck. Phil - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Phil, Thanks for this, but what do I need to open this? My Winfrots doesn't want to open this, I think it just opens .z5 files. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
Hi Cary, Where do I get Winfrotz TTS? I see that Winfrotz opens it, but when I route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor, it just reads graphics, it won't read text like with the other games. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
umm. I don't remember where I got it. just do a google search for winfrotz tts and you should get a website to download it from. I'm thinking the website was something like www.binaryrevelations.com but I'm not exactly sure. -Cary - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Cary, Where do I get Winfrotz TTS? I see that Winfrotz opens it, but when I route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor, it just reads graphics, it won't read text like with the other games. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi! Try this site for winfrotzz. http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/ HTH! Sly! - Original Message - From: Cary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games umm. I don't remember where I got it. just do a google search for winfrotz tts and you should get a website to download it from. I'm thinking the website was something like www.binaryrevelations.com but I'm not exactly sure. -Cary - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Cary, Where do I get Winfrotz TTS? I see that Winfrotz opens it, but when I route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor, it just reads graphics, it won't read text like with the other games. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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If your using jaws 6 or up. You don't have to install a dos version. You just type cmd in run box or go start menu, programs, accessories, arrow down to command prompt. Now for some dos based stuff you may have to go in the properties for the executable, and set compatibility mode for it to run. At 01:19 AM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. Tim trouble Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Ari, I have not figured out a way to restart in dos mode with Windows XP like we could in Windows 95 and 98. Even if one could the dos that comes with XP is not the same. Windows used to run on top of dos. Now XP is windows with a simulated dos mode. Even at the Windows XP command prompt you can type help to get help with dos commands. Such as help copy That would give you the help with the copy command. To get a list of all of the dos commands, just type help. However it is more than one screen full, so you will want to type something like help | more Or you could send it all to a text file such as help DosHelp.txt I believe that with Jaws for dos turning off speaking of punctuation would stop the pronouncing of such things as the vertical bar. Although I very often use the Windows XP command prompt I have pretty much given up on playing dos games. I have converted all of my dos games to better windows versions. I was never very good at the text adventure games. My favorites however were Leather Goddesses of Phoboes, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy and Deep Space Drifter. BFN Jim Our father who art in Redmond, hallowed be thy DOS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net 1-440-286-6920 Chardon Ohio ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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I have hal and it can handle sertain dos things, not games though. Commands, format a disk, copy a file, access stuff, I sometimes use the terminal for stuff. i've never been able to run games though. At 07:21 AM 7/25/2006, you wrote: What is command.com? Sorry and where do you type it in? Also, if JFW is just a windows screen reader will it handle a dos emmulater? ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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in a way its good even though win98 is no longer supported that it still exists. For someone that does not want to go online and run old software its really good. At 09:09 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: Hi Ari! Office Depot carries windows 98. I bought one there about six months ago. I have also seen windows 98 in used computer stores. Later And Blessings - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Text based games Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can
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how does the dos window work in say jaws with all your games? tads, inform, agt and standalones? Do I need to have to do anything special? At 09:10 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: That is true I use the dos window in X P Home. I usually type in command.com, though. - Original Message - From: James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Windows XP has a DOS option. o to start, run, and type in cmd.exe rather than the usual command.com. That'll bring up a DOS window similar to what you'd find with Windows 95 and the such, with all the oddly programmed commands contained therein. James At 03:23 PM 7/23/2006, you wrote: Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any
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No way to get win xp to start in dos mode. Besides Most newer systems do not have serial port, pluss most drives are in ntfs which won't help matters. At 05:19 PM 7/25/2006, you wrote: Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Ari! You probably will not want to do this, but you can set up your computer for a double boot. That means that yu can boot up in windows or dos. When the computer starts it would ask which you want. Did you try using the exit command when you ran command.com to play a dos game then type in exit to return to windows? Regards! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Ari! Oh, I forgot to say that you would have to buy dos, probably off Ebay and install it on your hard drive to be able to boout up on that part of the hard drive. It sounds like this subject is coming to an end. Later! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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yes it can not agt or tads though. I have windowsbridge on an old system and I can run almost everything except agt and tads. Since cosmoserve doesn't work, tpatch does not fix it and this was the main reason I got it, nup really no good. I have a coppy of asap but I never got it to work on my pentium 600. THats a pitty. Unless there is an vertual pc or something that will make your computer or anything that needs to think that the system is really crap then there is no show. Another thing I wandered was if I could get an external hard disk with a paralel port if I could boot from it or rather boot from a disk if I couldn't and get to the stage where I could go to it. I don't know. At 07:56 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: Hi, You may be delighted to hear that Windows XP can in fact emulate DOS and run at least some of the old stand alone text adventures. Regards, Tobias On Sun, 23 Jul 2006, ari wrote: Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG
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Hi Ari! Office Depot carries windows 98. I bought one there about six months ago. I have also seen windows 98 in used computer stores. Later And Blessings - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Text based games Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi james. I have never got this working right. At any rate the system I had doesn't have a serial port no more. I did try xp with a keynote and it ran fine but when I tried dectalk it fell over probably because something to do with port conflicts. In any case I tried 6 times and I reformatted 6 times because xp would not boot after it went crazy. This was xp with no sp on it but I don't want to try again. You have to be exact, I need a standard 386 to play stuff a 486 won't work. If only I could find one or the bits to repair my system. I have space for that. At 07:51 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: Windows XP has a DOS option. o to start, run, and type in cmd.exe rather than the usual command.com. That'll bring up a DOS window similar to what you'd find with Windows 95 and the such, with all the oddly programmed commands contained therein. James At 03:23 PM 7/23/2006, you wrote: Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- No virus
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That is true I use the dos window in X P Home. I usually type in command.com, though. - Original Message - From: James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Windows XP has a DOS option. o to start, run, and type in cmd.exe rather than the usual command.com. That'll bring up a DOS window similar to what you'd find with Windows 95 and the such, with all the oddly programmed commands contained therein. James At 03:23 PM 7/23/2006, you wrote: Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Another thing I wandered was playing inform, tads and agt on linux with something like dosemu running at startup. At 07:56 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: Hi, You may be delighted to hear that Windows XP can in fact emulate DOS and run at least some of the old stand alone text adventures. Regards, Tobias On Sun, 23 Jul 2006, ari wrote: Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Ari, You can find a lot of the old text adventure games for DOS at the Interactive Fiction Archive at www.ifarchive.org As for the command-line thing in Windows XP, what games wouldn't I be able to play with that? Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Kelly John Sapergia For a mix of New Age, Ambient, Easy Listening, Smooth Jazz and Global Fusion music, listen to Northern Lights, Thursdays from 01:00 to 03:00 GMT (Wednesdays in North America) on ACB (American Council of the Blind) Radio Interactive at http://interactive.acbradio.org Visit the show's web site at http://www.ksapergia.net/northernlights.html For high-quality audio productions at affordable prices, visit KJS Productions at: http://www.kjsproductions.com You can also visit my personal web site at: http://www.ksapergia.net ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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arie. This is a reall pain in the rear. I to did for a while try to persue this. You can find dos images on something like demonoid.com or torrentspy.com. You will need something like winimage and or rawwrite. You can find a version of winimage on the sites I mentioned to. This aint all lagit though. I got my dos disks through someone that didn't want them. Ok, despite legality of it you can get dos from torrent sites and the software that will load the images to floppy disks. www.ifarchive.org, www.zlat.org are sites for games. Thats out the way. I have had the same as you. Problem. There are about 4 problems. The first one is that on systems over a 386 margin, games that use the bigger agt system like cosmoserve will not work. And other agt games will not work unless you have tpatch to fix these. Cosmoserve will not work with that tpatch program. Tpatch is in the executables of the agt which is in the programming directory of ifarchive.org. That aint the least of your problems. Unless your screenreader can support anything over 386 systems you may find it in the case of mastertouch keynote keysoft, etc will not run what ever you do. Another thing is if you do not have the external synth to drive the reader, forget it. Secondly depending on what dos version you use, I personally like dos 6.22 which will not install on some older systems that only have dos 3 on them. anyway it has the most features. Anyway if you put the opensource dos 7.10 on it you will get a basic dos with few utilities. You will get fat 32 support meaning that only 32gb of a hard disk will bee seen. However earlier fuller versions of dos will only allow for fat 16 2gb support. In a way your best thing is to run an earlier version of windows. However depending on how all the ports that windows grabbs things may just not work even in dos mode. I have an old keynote gold 1850 toshiba 386. If you can get a 386 machine, and llow for space, and it actually excepts your dos 6.22 disks and works, i can't, the one i got never did and I don't have the space. I gave up after a year, that is after spending over 1000 on ebay for computers and being dissapointed and having untold junk. I also have a dectalk express which has something really wrong with it. Now if I could get a computer to make it out it was a 386 and looked like dos but wasn't that would be good. However unless vertual pcs are more accessible and even then who knows if it will work. I did try winfrots tts but I never got it to save and restore right. I think old dos games for us are dead. I'd really like to sink my teath into them but I am unable to. At 07:23 AM 7/24/2006, you wrote: Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun,
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What is command.com? Sorry and where do you type it in? Also, if JFW is just a windows screen reader will it handle a dos emmulater? ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Chris, I've just tried command, it works, I can play old games! Thanks everyone! What you do is go to Run, and in the box you type command.com This brings up the prompt. This is cool, because I remember on a computer I saw with JFW and an older version of Windows, you could go to the MS-dos prompt option in accessories, but their is no such thing under Windows XP. It feels so brilliant that I can play some of these games again! I do wish their was a way of somehow restarting in dos and of somehow getting a proper dos screen reader loaded. Chris, you can read the dos windows by routing the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, but I tried a game today where it didn't work well, because the text seemed to be in bars, what I mean is, JFW read the lines like this: || Welcome to Gymad|| ||Written by || I can't play games like this, I really wish I knew how to turn this option off. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi, At the run prompt, instead of typing command.com, type cmd.exe. JAWS will then read all the prompts for the games without you having to use the JAWS cursor. CMD.exe is the Command Prompt, which in XP is equivalent to the DOS Prompt in older OS's. You should be able to play the games in cmd.exe. Alex K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ari Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 1:42 PM To: Chris Frahm; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Chris, I've just tried command, it works, I can play old games! Thanks everyone! What you do is go to Run, and in the box you type command.com This brings up the prompt. This is cool, because I remember on a computer I saw with JFW and an older version of Windows, you could go to the MS-dos prompt option in accessories, but their is no such thing under Windows XP. It feels so brilliant that I can play some of these games again! I do wish their was a way of somehow restarting in dos and of somehow getting a proper dos screen reader loaded. Chris, you can read the dos windows by routing the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, but I tried a game today where it didn't work well, because the text seemed to be in bars, what I mean is, JFW read the lines like this: || Welcome to Gymad|| ||Written by || I can't play games like this, I really wish I knew how to turn this option off. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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There is a way of restarting windows from dos. When you exit the dos game and you are at the dos prompt again type in the word exit and it will take you immediately back to windows. E Later! - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Frahm [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Text based games Hi Chris, I've just tried command, it works, I can play old games! Thanks everyone! What you do is go to Run, and in the box you type command.com This brings up the prompt. This is cool, because I remember on a computer I saw with JFW and an older version of Windows, you could go to the MS-dos prompt option in accessories, but their is no such thing under Windows XP. It feels so brilliant that I can play some of these games again! I do wish their was a way of somehow restarting in dos and of somehow getting a proper dos screen reader loaded. Chris, you can read the dos windows by routing the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor, but I tried a game today where it didn't work well, because the text seemed to be in bars, what I mean is, JFW read the lines like this: || Welcome to Gymad|| ||Written by || I can't play games like this, I really wish I knew how to turn this option off. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi ari, The only thing is, the command prompt in XP doesn't work exactly like dos used to. In dos as long as you had the game write the text to the bios or console the dos screen reader would say it. The XP command prompt has no such thing as bios or console. The games will not automatically speak as they did in dos. BFN Jim Read the manual? Doesn't it come in automatic? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net 1-440-286-6920 Chardon Ohio ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Jim, Is their a way, like in older windows, to restart in MS Dos mode? If their is, I could do that and install Jaws For Dos, then whenever I want to play a game, I could just start in DOS with Jaws For Dos? Is what I am thinking possible, can a person start in dos mode with Jaws for dos, never really used dos so I really don't know these things. I have a double talk synthesizer. Also, when a person is in plain dos, how do I install Jaws or any other dos program? Is their a tutorial for dos somewhere which explains to people how to install, run, delete, copy, etc? Did screen reader companies or someone ever release a tape tutorial for dos like they do to get people familiar with windows, or, since it's a text-based system, I'm guessing you could use dos tutorials written for sighted people as well, but where to find? Also, if I use Jaws for dos, will it also read like this in a game: || welcom|| |||this is your first day||| That is really frustrating, I don't know if their is a way it can skip all the |. Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Text based games
Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Text based games
Windows XP has a DOS option. o to start, run, and type in cmd.exe rather than the usual command.com. That'll bring up a DOS window similar to what you'd find with Windows 95 and the such, with all the oddly programmed commands contained therein. James At 03:23 PM 7/23/2006, you wrote: Hello everyone, In this email I'm first asking for advice, then I'd like you guy's feedback on a suggestion. First, I'd like to tell you guys my background with text adventures. When I was at school, the teacher had a disk with text adventure games like Zork, Gymad, Under the Ice, etc. The screen reader that was used was Window Bridge, which could also be used as a dos screen reader. You would go to Windows Explorer, press enter on the .exe file of the game, and Window Bridge would start reading it to you. Now, however, new windows systems don't even have any form of DOS, and this makes me worried, because, for me, text based games are a very important part of the history and culture of games for the blind. My worry is that with the non-existance of dos, these games will disappear, be hard to find, etc. I want to do two things, but I please need answers: 1. For my own enjoyment, I want to somehow be able to play the dos-based text adventure games. These games are of course stand-alone games, not games that used windows interpreters, but games that will iether run under old Windows versions through the ms-dos prompt, or through raw ms dos. What me and a sighted guy thought of, is if I make a partition on my hard drive, install plain dos, and use a screen reader like Jaws for Dos or Hal Lite, which are free. I want to know though, is their anywhere I can get DOS from? Also, since I've mainly used the windows environment, is their some kind of DOS tutorial available, sort of a beginners for DOS guide? I'm familiar with some dos commands, like how to move through directories and run programs, but don't know it too well. You might be wondering why I'm not installing an older version of Windows and running the games under the dos box? We were thinking about it, but we don't have a copy of Windows 95 or 98, and I don't think their is anyone who could sell us a copy. The next thing I want to ask is can you guys send me lists of sites which have text-based games on them for download. The idea is, with large hard drives, I will download, keep, and play as many of these hard-to-find games as I can, I will then, when I can have my own site one day, upload them to the site as a sort of huge library. My suggestion is about a text-based games club (like a book club!) What I'm suggesting is, it's fun, I remember from school, to solve a game with other people. What I suggest is a sort of club that would work like this: Once, say every two months, a person will suggest a game, which is freely downloadable. That person must tell all of us who want to take part, the link to the game. Everyone who wants to can play the game, and, without using the solution, we who struggle with problems in the game try and put our heads together and try and finish the game. We can do it by email on this list, or in a chat room while playing the game, but I think email will be best, since people first of all don't play the game at the same time, and time zones are also a problem. Talking about dos games, are the PCS games that were made for dos still available? If I can get a dos system set up, I'd really love to try them. You may wonder where this enthusiasm has come from, it came from me re-reading the first three issues of audyssey! I read about games like Fallthru, which I've never played, but would love to try! I've played Zork, it's cool! Ari ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
