Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-07 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi,
That is exactly why the Genesis 3D engine, which Mysteries of the 
Ancients is based on, defaults to software buffers. In my experience 
software buffers are more reliable in games although at the cost of 
memory, proformence, and some other things. Though on a system like mine 
the trade off is nill.


Valiant8086 wrote:
 Works pretty good in my xp based asus nnetbook too. It's a realtek 
hd. It had problems with GMA games thouggh, in sod it used smoe sort of 
stereo stuff that made it sound 3d, even though the game was set to 
stereo, so I changed it to use software buffers and that particular 
problem went away. GTC actually works fine if I remember right. Lone 
wolf the ships wouldn't play left or right, they were always in the 
center as though they were mono. changeing lw's sounds.ini to use 
software buffers fixed that problem too. There are some sideaffects to 
doing this, like it causes other programs to sound retarded when the 
game is running.


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   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards


   Hd card is working fine in both a laptop and desktop.



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   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:37 AM
   Subject: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards


Hi.
This may help someone so I post it here.
this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in 
most new

laptops and desktops.
Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma 
ones,

this applies to gtc lw and sod.
edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
Advantages.
faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 
2gb ram.

Disadvantages.
you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the 
hd card
however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and 
lockups

to the point where sound did not work right.
If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, 
and get
something that actually works, better yet something that is not 
hd audio

or realtech.
   
   
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-07 Thread shaun everiss
well all the gma games are on software buffers now.
the hd card does not cut it in here at least not nicely.
It all depends on the games in question.
I have set the buffers to as low as they go though everything runs quite nicely.
At 08:14 a.m. 8/02/2009, you wrote:
Hi,
That is exactly why the Genesis 3D engine, which Mysteries of the Ancients is 
based on, defaults to software buffers. In my experience software buffers are 
more reliable in games although at the cost of memory, proformence, and some 
other things. Though on a system like mine the trade off is nill.

Valiant8086 wrote:
 Works pretty good in my xp based asus nnetbook too. It's a realtek hd. It 
 had problems with GMA games thouggh, in sod it used smoe sort of stereo 
 stuff that made it sound 3d, even though the game was set to stereo, so I 
 changed it to use software buffers and that particular problem went away. 
 GTC actually works fine if I remember right. Lone wolf the ships wouldn't 
 play left or right, they were always in the center as though they were mono. 
 changeing lw's sounds.ini to use software buffers fixed that problem too. 
 There are some sideaffects to doing this, like it causes other programs to 
 sound retarded when the game is running.

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   Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:43 PM
   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards


   Hd card is working fine in both a laptop and desktop.



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   AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu
   100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
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   From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
   To: gamers@audyssey.org
   Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:37 AM
   Subject: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards


Hi.
This may help someone so I post it here.
this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
laptops and desktops.
Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones,
this applies to gtc lw and sod.
edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
Advantages.
faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
Disadvantages.
you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups
to the point where sound did not work right.
If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio
or realtech.
   
   
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-06 Thread Constantine

Hd card is working fine in both a laptop and desktop.



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and others
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AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 
100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
- Original Message - 
From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz

To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:37 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards



Hi.
This may help someone so I post it here.
this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new 
laptops and desktops.
Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones, 
this applies to gtc lw and sod.

edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
Advantages.
faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
Disadvantages.
you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card 
however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups 
to the point where sound did not work right.
If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get 
something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio 
or realtech.



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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-05 Thread Trouble

Your mac book is the reason you don't see these problems.
Even your version of windows runs better then most..

At 04:16 AM 2/4/2009, you wrote:

Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 This may help someone so I post it here.
 this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
 laptops and desktops.
 Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones, this
 applies to gtc lw and sod.
 edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
 set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
 Advantages.
 faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
 Disadvantages.
 you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
 However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
 the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
 however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and 
lockups to

 the point where sound did not work right.
 If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
 something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio or
 realtech.


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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-05 Thread Scott Chesworth
hehe, you might have a point there Trouble. So far I've been very
happy with how windows runs on this thing. No doubt it has its quirks
though like any other system, I'm just not using windows heavily
enough to discover what goes wrong.

Anyway, I'll keep the Apple fan boy side of myself on a leash on this list lol.

On 2/5/09, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 Your mac book is the reason you don't see these problems.
 Even your version of windows runs better then most..

 At 04:16 AM 2/4/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
  Hi.
  This may help someone so I post it here.
  this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most
  new
  laptops and desktops.
  Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones,
  this
  applies to gtc lw and sod.
  edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
  set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
  Advantages.
  faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
  Disadvantages.
  you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
  However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
  the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
  however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and
 lockups to
  the point where sound did not work right.
  If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
  something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio
  or
  realtech.
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 This may help someone so I post it here.
 this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
 laptops and desktops.
 Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones, this
 applies to gtc lw and sod.
 edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
 set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
 Advantages.
 faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
 Disadvantages.
 you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
 However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
 the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
 however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups to
 the point where sound did not work right.
 If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
 something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio or
 realtech.


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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
hmm either you are lucky or for whatever reason you have a newer model.
There are 2 types of hd cards.
the origional cards realtech hd then the real tech alc hd.
These seem newer than the older style of realtech hd.
its possible that these cards have been fixed.
even with the older drivers I have for this card there is still a bit of 
crackling.
I suppose if I really install the oldest drivers for the card the crackling may 
go away fully. but who knows.
At 10:16 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 This may help someone so I post it here.
 this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
 laptops and desktops.
 Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones, this
 applies to gtc lw and sod.
 edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
 set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
 Advantages.
 faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
 Disadvantages.
 you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
 However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
 the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
 however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups to
 the point where sound did not work right.
 If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
 something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio or
 realtech.


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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hey Shaun,

Well in case it helps you or anyone else, here's the details of the
driver I'm running for the realtek hd with no issues.  Whether this
will be the same on any other system, who knows lol.

Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Driver Date: 14/11/2007
Driver Version: 5.10.0.5512
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publ



On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 hmm either you are lucky or for whatever reason you have a newer model.
 There are 2 types of hd cards.
 the origional cards realtech hd then the real tech alc hd.
 These seem newer than the older style of realtech hd.
 its possible that these cards have been fixed.
 even with the older drivers I have for this card there is still a bit of
 crackling.
 I suppose if I really install the oldest drivers for the card the crackling
 may go away fully. but who knows.
 At 10:16 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 This may help someone so I post it here.
 this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
 laptops and desktops.
 Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones,
 this
 applies to gtc lw and sod.
 edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
 set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
 Advantages.
 faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
 Disadvantages.
 you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
 However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
 the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
 however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups
 to
 the point where sound did not work right.
 If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
 something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio
 or
 realtech.


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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm.
my toshiba does not have this, there is either 384 or 404.
I'll look for drivers.
At 10:53 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hey Shaun,

Well in case it helps you or anyone else, here's the details of the
driver I'm running for the realtek hd with no issues.  Whether this
will be the same on any other system, who knows lol.

Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Driver Date: 14/11/2007
Driver Version: 5.10.0.5512
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publ



On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 hmm either you are lucky or for whatever reason you have a newer model.
 There are 2 types of hd cards.
 the origional cards realtech hd then the real tech alc hd.
 These seem newer than the older style of realtech hd.
 its possible that these cards have been fixed.
 even with the older drivers I have for this card there is still a bit of
 crackling.
 I suppose if I really install the oldest drivers for the card the crackling
 may go away fully. but who knows.
 At 10:16 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 This may help someone so I post it here.
 this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
 laptops and desktops.
 Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones,
 this
 applies to gtc lw and sod.
 edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
 set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
 Advantages.
 faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
 Disadvantages.
 you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
 However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
 the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
 however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups
 to
 the point where sound did not work right.
 If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
 something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio
 or
 realtech.


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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread Robert Montowski
The Realtek HD sound chip that I have in my desktop system has a driver tht 
ends in..

.5523
the sound from this chip was awesome!
but then I tryed to get into audio chat rooms for the blind..and quicly 
found out the driver was flawed.
when I went to  volume control..it was impossible to select my 
microphone as my input recording device..

totally impossible.
the entire recording setup scfreen appeared to be greyed out..nothing could 
be selected as the input device for recording.

I googled this and found out thousands of folks had the same problem.
I had to disable the onboard chip and put in a yamaha sound card to fix the 
problem.
if you could steer me to the driver you say you use and it works fine, then 
I might like to go back to the onboard sound chip.

it would be nice to get my PCI slot back for some other use.
thanks for any help you can offer.
r_montow...@yahoo.com
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm.
my toshiba does not have this, there is either 384 or 404.
I'll look for drivers.
At 10:53 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hey Shaun,

Well in case it helps you or anyone else, here's the details of the
driver I'm running for the realtek hd with no issues.  Whether this
will be the same on any other system, who knows lol.

Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Driver Date: 14/11/2007
Driver Version: 5.10.0.5512
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publ



On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 hmm either you are lucky or for whatever reason you have a newer model.
 There are 2 types of hd cards.
 the origional cards realtech hd then the real tech alc hd.
 These seem newer than the older style of realtech hd.
 its possible that these cards have been fixed.
 even with the older drivers I have for this card there is still a bit of
 crackling.
 I suppose if I really install the oldest drivers for the card the crackling
 may go away fully. but who knows.
 At 10:16 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 This may help someone so I post it here.
 this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
 laptops and desktops.
 Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones,
 this
 applies to gtc lw and sod.
 edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
 set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
 Advantages.
 faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
 Disadvantages.
 you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
 However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
 the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
 however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups
 to
 the point where sound did not work right.
 If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
 something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio
 or
 realtech.


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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm tried to run the standard realtech hd 2.14 driver today.
version is 393, my driver is 404 or something.
the card was heaps lowder and more distorted.
the menus jumped round like no one's business.
I suspect i can only run spaciffic drivers for my laptop.
the old 384 driver I have is the best sounding, unfortunately I really can't 
run games with the card right at least not all of them.
At 10:53 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hey Shaun,

Well in case it helps you or anyone else, here's the details of the
driver I'm running for the realtek hd with no issues.  Whether this
will be the same on any other system, who knows lol.

Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Driver Date: 14/11/2007
Driver Version: 5.10.0.5512
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publ



On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 hmm either you are lucky or for whatever reason you have a newer model.
 There are 2 types of hd cards.
 the origional cards realtech hd then the real tech alc hd.
 These seem newer than the older style of realtech hd.
 its possible that these cards have been fixed.
 even with the older drivers I have for this card there is still a bit of
 crackling.
 I suppose if I really install the oldest drivers for the card the crackling
 may go away fully. but who knows.
 At 10:16 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi.
 This may help someone so I post it here.
 this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
 laptops and desktops.
 Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones,
 this
 applies to gtc lw and sod.
 edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
 set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
 Advantages.
 faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
 Disadvantages.
 you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
 However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
 the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
 however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups
 to
 the point where sound did not work right.
 If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
 something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio
 or
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I'd like to say that to my computer.
now if it was that easy to tell my system that if it stuffed up I'd do 
something about it.
issue is I can't exactly do things about it as such.
I can't even reformat because its to visual for me and my disks have gone walk 
about knowing this this system has reballed.
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread Scott Chesworth
not sure what to suggest here Shaun.  I guess it's possible that
realtek have put out certain version numbers to suit the way big
companies like things done, with you running a toshiba and me running
an apple, both those companies have got enough clout to say what they
want done and expect people to play ball most of the time.  No doubt
you've done it already, but you might try googling for the version
number I posted earlier in the thread along with your laptop model and
see what comes up?

Not much, but hth in some way
Scott

On 2/5/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 hmmm I'd like to say that to my computer.
 now if it was that easy to tell my system that if it stuffed up I'd do
 something about it.
 issue is I can't exactly do things about it as such.
 I can't even reformat because its to visual for me and my disks have gone
 walk about knowing this this system has reballed.
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
aah not an issue.
I am not going to clomp round the net searching.
the driver I have works mostly, still if I get a desktop or get cash for extra 
cards i am so getting a yamaha card or a creative usb card.
At 04:35 p.m. 5/02/2009, you wrote:
not sure what to suggest here Shaun.  I guess it's possible that
realtek have put out certain version numbers to suit the way big
companies like things done, with you running a toshiba and me running
an apple, both those companies have got enough clout to say what they
want done and expect people to play ball most of the time.  No doubt
you've done it already, but you might try googling for the version
number I posted earlier in the thread along with your laptop model and
see what comes up?

Not much, but hth in some way
Scott

On 2/5/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 hmmm I'd like to say that to my computer.
 now if it was that easy to tell my system that if it stuffed up I'd do
 something about it.
 issue is I can't exactly do things about it as such.
 I can't even reformat because its to visual for me and my disks have gone
 walk about knowing this this system has reballed.
 At 11:10 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
i am the boss and whatever i say goes mother  fucker
**Who's never won?  Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time
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AOL Music.
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Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards

2009-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
well the recording control is where you unmute the mic.
know this though you can only have the stereo mix or the mic on at the same 
time.
unlike the old analog cards like soundmax where you could use the mic and 
stereo mix at once you can't anymore.
 the input and output devices are split the output is in the main controler the 
input is on the recording controler.
At 04:58 p.m. 5/02/2009, you wrote:
Hey Shaun and whoever else reads this,
I also have a Toshiba pc, laptop in fact, and I'm having some realtek issues. 
no matter what I try, I don't have any line-in options, and I can't unmute the 
microphone for recordings. it's driving me insane. I've searched on countless 
forums and the solution either doesn't work, or they're referring to a 
different card. Any ideas on a solution? is anyone having this extremely 
frustrating issue? If this is getting OT, please respond off list. thanks!
- Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] work around for realtech hd cards


hmmm.
my toshiba does not have this, there is either 384 or 404.
I'll look for drivers.
At 10:53 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hey Shaun,

Well in case it helps you or anyone else, here's the details of the
driver I'm running for the realtek hd with no issues.  Whether this
will be the same on any other system, who knows lol.

Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Driver Date: 14/11/2007
Driver Version: 5.10.0.5512
Digital Signer: Microsoft Windows Hardware Compatibility Publ



On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
hmm either you are lucky or for whatever reason you have a newer model.
There are 2 types of hd cards.
the origional cards realtech hd then the real tech alc hd.
These seem newer than the older style of realtech hd.
its possible that these cards have been fixed.
even with the older drivers I have for this card there is still a bit of
crackling.
I suppose if I really install the oldest drivers for the card the crackling
may go away fully. but who knows.
At 10:16 p.m. 4/02/2009, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,

Quick question for you.

I'm running a realtech hd card here in a laptop, have never edited the
ini files for any gma games, and receive no popping/crackling/laggy
behaviour with gtc lw or sod as yet.  Is that normal?

Fi, my realtech hd is inside a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz macbook pro with 2
gb of ram, and I boot into windows native for gaming, although I've
also seen the sound support perform without any of the mentioned
issues under virtualisation.

Just throwing my experiences into the mix to try and narrow down what
causes it I guess.

Cheers
Scott

On 2/4/09, shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
Hi.
This may help someone so I post it here.
this is to fix the issue with the realtech hd cards that come in most new
laptops and desktops.
Although I can't fix every game with this card I can fix the gma ones,
this
applies to gtc lw and sod.
edit the sounds.ini in the dorectory the game is loaded in.
set sound buffers to 20, and then software buffers to 1.
Advantages.
faster and more responsive, at least on duel core systems with 2gb ram.
Disadvantages.
you don't get the cool hd audio effects.
However you get rid of the crackles, weird interpritations, etc.
the only way to really fix this is to update the drivers of the hd card
however at least on my laptop this caused accessive crackling and lockups
to
the point where sound did not work right.
If you have a desktop I strongly recomend you ditch the hd card, and get
something that actually works, better yet something that is not hd audio
or
realtech.


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