Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, You are comparing apples to oranges here. The Vocalizer Add-on and Leasey are completely two different types of programs, are supported differently by NVDA, thus is a poor comparison. Let me explain. With Leasey it is written to be a screen reader add-on. It directly interfaces with the

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-12 Thread Josh K
ly had to renew my SMA's last year. Fs will drain you of money and for what? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh K Sent: 27 July 2015 19:35 To: Gamers Discussion list; phi...@blastbay.com Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home I hav

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread dark
Hi Tom. My one major issue with this is as I said that Philip's work that he obviously put much time and trouble into is being so devalued, and is being so badly curtailed for no reason. Brian Hartgen could! still sell the game for 20 usd as Philip did as a stand alone program and! give it

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread john
The prices I was quoting were the official microsoft numbers for windows 10 - I'm not sure about any other version or sellers. -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 16:40 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subje

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi John, That sounds about right. Although, the pricing for Windows depends on the retailer the person buys it from. It can be slightly higher or cheaper depending on where one buys it. Cheers! On 8/10/15, john wrote: > I believe windows pricing is: > $119 for home, $199 for pro > > --

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Ari, Correct. Leasey is completely closed source and NVDA is licence under the GPL which requires most things to be open source and to really do what Leasey does it would have to be open source. Therefore since Leasey is a commercial project the GPL type license wouldn't allow them to suppor

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread john
I believe windows pricing is: $119 for home, $199 for pro -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 16:01 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Dark, I believe your Windows analo

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread Shaun Everiss
I agree with you tom. I like the game, but itsno problem if its moved away somewhere. On 10/08/2015 12:29 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, That's a bit obvious. No one is complaining about Q9 but the way the transfer was handled and the way Brian Hartgen has decided to distribute the game n

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread Gmail
> >>> On 7/27/2015 1:30 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: >>> Chaps, we should probably keep this discussion specific to Q9 rather >>> than turning it into a FS bashfest, however tempting that might be. >>> I'm not a mod, just felt the need to try and steer

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I believe your Windows analogy is pretty close a comparison as we can get. Not exactly the same situation, but close enough for comparison that the concepts carry over. As you said Leasy costs no more than it ever has and I believe Brian has purchased Q9 to include in Leasey as a sort of

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Ari, Agreed. Here in the States at least Jaws is generally purchased by agencies for clients and I can see in certain cases Leasey being purchased along side Jaws for JSay and other stuff that comes bundled with it. So in those circumstances yes Q9 might spread further than one might assume

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread Gmail
unreasonable, way to > find out about it. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - From: "Nick Adamson" > To: "Gamers Discussion list&quo

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread dark
Hi Josh. I've heard this arguement that "the game is now worth 200 usd" before, but that is just looking at it from one perspective. From Brian Hartgen's point of view he has bought Q9 to essentially be a bonus. It's like the solitare and other games that comes with windows. It would be foolis

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread dark
Hi Tom. I know Tj was philip's first game and that later he stopped using javascript and maybe architecturally the system could've been programmed better, but the game did a lot right, indeed I bought it in 2006 when it was a commercial game and wasn't sorry. Each side scrolling level was a

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-10 Thread mattias
I think we already have a Mario? -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Josh K Skickat: den 10 augusti 2015 07:03 Till: Gamers Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home not another tarzan junior. How about a side scroller that

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, I don't think anyone will disagree with that. It is bad marketing, but I don't think we need to continue to belabor the point. What is done is done and continuing to moan and groan about it isn't going to change things. So if there is nothing more constructive to say on the issue I think

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Josh K
not another tarzan junior. How about a side scroller that combines mario and sonic with mortal combat. And you could get all kinds of weapons like swords and bombs. and make levels where you have to smash cars and stuff with hammers. Or smash cars with your fish as you run bye them or jump over

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Josh K
well its bad marketing. Q9 is not worth $200. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 8/9/2015 8:29 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, That's a bit obvious. No one is complaining about Q9 but the way the transfer was handled and the way Brian Hartgen has decided to distribute the game now that he

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Oh, definitely agree. I've actually been doing some thinking and I think what would be cool is a modern remake or clone of Tarzan Junior since presumably Philip still holds the rights and it would be easy to get permission to rewrite TJ. Reason being it could be designed to use similar el

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread dark
Hi Tom. Well yes Q9 has the fairly standard environments, weapons and gameplay, but as I said it's the design here that matters. This is actually why I'd be interested if one of our more established and experienced developers worked on some sort of side scroller sinse funnily enough while a fe

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, That's a bit obvious. No one is complaining about Q9 but the way the transfer was handled and the way Brian Hartgen has decided to distribute the game now that he has it. The point in my message you responded to is that if people don't like the new distribution policy that the game coul

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, True. Not every developer does use the same programming language and/or platform. That said, there are ways around that problem if the developers really and truly want to work together to develop something decent. As with every collaboration project there would be a bit of give and take

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Shaun Everiss
Heck I don't think q9 was the issue. for its time q9 rocked. I don't know if I'd buy q9 again or a game like it. I think the issue tom was more how it was sold and who got it. In this case a restricted platform which is what is getting people in a hustle about is the big thing. I don't think peop

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home The solution to all this is to have all these young, competing developers team up and make something amazing and jaw-dropping for once. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:40 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote: well the game is old, to be hon

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
Probably for the simple reason that Philip sold the game to this particular individual. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
Which isn't Philip's fault. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: mattias Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:56 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home But you cant buy the game without

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Dennis Towne
Thomas, When people are angry and need a target to lash out at, they'll find one. It doesn't have to make any sense, because it's not about fixing the problem - it's about venting. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Ma

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Matthias, True, but that is not directly Philip's fault. He sold it to Brian Hartgen who is the one that has locked Q9 to Jaws and Leasey. There is a difference here in who is to blame for the unfortunate state of affairs. I'm puzzled as to why you continue to blame Philip when he no longer own

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread dark
me to the much wider group of people who do not want to buy that product. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Mattias,

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread mattias
But you cant buy the game without the rest jaws stuff -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Thomas Ward Skickat: den 9 augusti 2015 18:56 Till: Gamers Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Mattias, While Philip may be a Jaws

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, I agree. This topic has gone about as far as it can go, and at some point people are just spinning their wheels repeating the same old arguments. We should begin wrapping it up and moving on to something else. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list,

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Mattias, While Philip may be a Jaws user I don't think this situation with Q9 has arisen because he is "a Jaws lover." I don't think that had anything to do with it. As Philip explained on the Audiogames.net Forum it was a simple business arrangement where Brian Hartgen offered him an unspecifi

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Bryan Peterson
ubject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Don’t know Who is it? But no developers force people to use a screen reader like Philip do -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Josh K Skickat: den 9 augusti 2015 16:49 Till: Gamers Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Au

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread mattias
Don’t know Who is it? But no developers force people to use a screen reader like Philip do -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Josh K Skickat: den 9 augusti 2015 16:49 Till: Gamers Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home don&#

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread Josh K
amers Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hello, It seems as if Licy is just a ton of Jaws scripts combined in a massive package. I've never used it, but from looking at the description, and reviews, that is what it sounds like. Why would they want an audio game sold with it?

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-09 Thread mattias
Because philip are a jaws lover -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Brandon Keith Biggs Skickat: den 24 juli 2015 03:38 Till: Gamers Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hello, It seems as if Licy is just a ton of Jaws

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread Devin Prater
; such a lot of deserved flack for what he did to bsc games, essentially >>>>> making them legally unavailable forever more amen. >>>>> >>>>> I hope as I said, this twit who develops leasy will realize the value >>>>> of what he owns and t

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread Devin Prater
Problem is: People might see what else is out there, if they explore. But Leesy isn't made for that. Its made to sort of lock you in, to get you with it and have all the tools and fun you'll ever need. So no, I doubt they'll come here, no. They'll stay with the games Leesy has made available to

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread Devin Prater
- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Au

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Maybe so but the fact of the matter is I get the feeling this deal went down rather suddenly. I don't know what if any influence Philip had over distribution of Q9 when Brian Hartgen took control of the product, and I'm not sure he really cared about new sales that much. The only conditi

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I agree with all your points. Although, Q9 is a simple side-scroller it was well thought out and well designed from a development standpoint. It had good game mechanics, good music, good sounds, a bit of light humor, and a lot of beginners just aren't quite able to deliver that quality. T

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread Bryan Peterson
spend a hundred or more dollars for the entire package. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: mattias Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:25 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Because philip love jaws t

Re: [Audyssey] q9

2015-08-08 Thread Bryan Peterson
essary for their survival. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: mattias Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:42 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] q9 Can people here stop to take philip in Defence Or what the English word are Dev

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread loriduncan
I agree, and it's such a shame blastbay is no longer in operation. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 9:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Tom. In light of this debate, I did go and play Q9, and one thing stru

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-08 Thread dark
Hi Tom. In light of this debate, I did go and play Q9, and one thing struck me. Lots of people have tried! to develop games like Q9 but not many have been as successful, look at games like Battle Zone, indeed I would say that these are probably the most common type of audiogames people first t

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, We have a strict no piracy rule here on Audyssey so yes the mods do mind. While I am upset with how Q9 was handled that doesn't mean I'll relax the rule about sharing the keys on this or any other list I run because it is piracy. Just because I think Mr. Hartgen is being a bit of a jerk

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, A comment about your comment. There is a lot more to the legalization of illegal drugs than just everyone is doing it. Some studies have shown that countries like Portugal which have relaxed their drug policies have a less of a drug problem per person than countries that have really st

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I'm all for the idea of a Q9 clone. A developer, whoever that would be, could create something like Q9 and either sell it or give it away legally. It isn't like such things haven't been done before, and the game is generic enough that something similar can be created without much of a di

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Brandon, Essentially Leasey is a series of Jaws scripts. I suspect they want to sell games and other software with it to entice people into buying Leasey. It is possible they discovered their scripts are not doing as well as they might financially and are hoping to maximize sales by adding more

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
es. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Well Tom,

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
k. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is literally nothing he can do. He can'

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
well I do think everything that can be said about this has been said neither side is budging and well the game was old. We will just have to remake it and to be honest the plot was a bit simple, though it was good for its time. On 29/07/2015 3:19 p.m., Josh K wrote: yes good argument lets ke

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
- From: "Devin Prater" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is literally nothing he can do. He can't sell his own game, he

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Charles Rivard
d not be OK to steal. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Josh K" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey]

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Charles Rivard
; To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home hmmm grand skeem of things friends will share books games and whatever else they like. On 7/28/15, Charles Rivard wrote: If I am selling a game, and you get a copy of the ga

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
I agree. Leasy costs a lot then again its jaws I object to buying. I'd buy leasy maybe. On 29/07/2015 2:59 a.m., dark wrote: As I sid in that topic, I don't feel any animocity towards Philip, he deserves paying for his time, but I do think this is a bad consequence for anyone who might want to

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
Dark. - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is literally nothing he can do. He can

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Scott Chesworth
rse seeing as my post seems to have sparked off this little slew of >> messages. >> >> Scott >> >> On 7/27/15, Darren Harris wrote: >>> I refuse to use jaws based on the business moddle freedom scientific >>> operates. I bought window eyes in 2007 an

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
well you can still get a demo if you have a key allready. or someone will probably give you a key. Its probably what will happen on the forum its been suggested that that may be the only way to play the game now. On the otherside its an old game it was a good intro to bgt but I havn't played it

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Shaun Everiss
, 2015 10:17 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi all, I just wanted to post a quick announcement to let you all know that Q9 is moving. From today, the Q9 action game will no longer be sold from Blastbay Studios but will instead be available as p

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread mattias
Because philip love jaws to much -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] För Thomas Ward Skickat: den 29 juli 2015 01:49 Till: Gamers Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Josh, Yeah, of course it isn't fair. From now

[Audyssey] q9

2015-08-07 Thread mattias
Can people here stop to take philip in Defence Or what the English word are Developers should not force users to a specific screen reader --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or updat

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread mattias
Discussion list Ämne: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home I would think that he's shooting himself in both feet with this practice. As for hoping that he goes bankrupt or anything like that, I hope not. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. However, I feel that sensibly written complaints are valid,

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Brandon Keith Biggs
Hello, Yes it would have been way more advantageous to announce that the sales were going to end in 2 weeks so get your version of q9 before it sells out, but he didn't do that. If you wish to play q9, find someone and play it on their computer. I have never played it and it is only because of

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-07 Thread Brandon Keith Biggs
ting change. Would you be willing to elaborate a bit on why you took this rout? -- From: "Philip Bennefall" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:17 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi all,

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-29 Thread Bryan Peterson
thing happens to him. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 10:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home The only way that they will find out about this game, though, is to buy an expens

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-29 Thread Charles Rivard
- Original Message - From: "Nick Adamson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi all. The content of this thread is making me a little uncomfortable. You may not agree with what has happe

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Yes, lets drop the stealing topic. It has no place on this list, and it is getting very close to breaking the list guidelines. So with that in mind I consider that subject closed. On 7/28/15, Josh K wrote: > yes good argument lets keep it at that otherwise this could start > something

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Ian Reed
+1 Nick Adamson. Also remember that many developers read the audiogames.net forum and this mailing list. Seeing how community members respond to one developer's choices is an easy way to guess how they would act towards other developers whenever they find something disagreeable. Expressing f

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Nick Adamson
Hi all. The content of this thread is making me a little uncomfortable. You may not agree with what has happened but encouraging piracy and personal attacks makes no one look good and especially from people normally respected in our community. As there is nothing you can do about the Q9 situat

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Josh K
yes good argument lets keep it at that otherwise this could start something bad on list that I don't want started. if you want to share q9 do it in private i think. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 7/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, The problem with your argument is this. R

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Josh K
al Message - From: "Josh K" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once you take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i tak

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, The problem with your argument is this. Regardless if you take something physical or not if you take something that belongs to a person be it an idea, song, a story, or a piece of software it is still considered steeling because according to the law you have an obligation to pay for it. I

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread lenron brown
ositive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: "Josh K" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Audy

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Rivard
ot;Josh K" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once you take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your wallet with money

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Josh K
aling. Period. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 H

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Rivard
-- From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Tom. I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how ofte

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Rivard
g defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Dark, Not sure I'd go as far

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Rivard
think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Dark, Unfortunately, that's not going to happen.

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread lenron brown
7;re finished, > > you! really! are! finished! > - Original Message - > From: "Devin Prater" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home > > >> I'm willing to

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Rivard
scussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Well Tom, in that case he can bugger off as well! Ive got half a mind to change the license type to "unknown" for Q9 in the audiogames.net db and put a note to the effect similar to those o

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Dark, Agreed. I wouldn't send the guy hate mail either, and when I did send him an e-mail about Q9 I did my best to be polite and courteous. However, I can completely understand the motivations behind some others sending him hate mail or wanting to kick his door down and just take the game by forc

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Rivard
- Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Hi Dark, I agree. Selling Q9 as a separate product might do him more good than including it as an add-on f

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Charles Rivard
2015 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to interface with that Jaws-fetish software that I can't spell. Then buying the thing wouldn't exactly be all that wasteful, although I'd rather pira

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Fair enough. That seems to me to be a fair compromise. On 7/28/15, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but > currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones pop > > up, or in the cases of some games how

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread dark
Hi Tom. I've made a practice of not deleting games that were once available but currently are not from the db, sinse it's surprising how often old ones pop up, or in the cases of some games how people manage to acquire them anyway even if audiogames.net won't help people to do so unless the ga

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread dark
Hi Tom. I wouldn't go as far as actually sending the guy hate mail, and I confess my wish that leasy fails was a little bit of bile on my part, however my thoughts on piracy are actually serious ones, sinse frankly if something is made unavailable, that is the time people are going to turn to

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Katie Epperson
Oh, look at what you just sent. You must be very brave. I'm not going to do anything, but that doesn't sound like a good idea > On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > > I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to > interface with that Jaws-fetish soft

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Yeah, of course it isn't fair. From now on if someone wants the game they have to pirate it. Sad but true. There is no longer a legal way to affordably purchase the game. On 7/28/15, Josh K wrote: > but that's not fair! what if someone wants to buy the stand alone > version? now they

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Dark, Honestly I wouldn't blame you a bit for doing that. I'd be perfectly okay with you just wiping it from the Audiogames.net database,, because the way I feel about it as long as Brian Hartgen refuses to sell single end user licenses for Q9 the game is basically unavailable for all intents and

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Devin Prater
velops leasy will realize the value >>>> of what he owns and treat it with the respect it deserves. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Dark. >>>> - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" >>>> >>

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Devin Prater
I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to interface with that Jaws-fetish software that I can't spell. Then buying the thing wouldn't exactly be all that wasteful, although I'd rather pirate it to try it out for 30 minutes or so just to see how mind-numbingly restr

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Josh K
iginal Message - From: "Devin Prater" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home Philip legally doesn't even own the product he created anymore. There is literally nothing he can do. He can't s

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I agree. Selling Q9 as a separate product might do him more good than including it as an add-on for Leasey, but apparently he thinks otherwise. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to care what we think and I don't see that situation changing any time soon. As for your feelings on the matter I

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Devin Prater
All I'll say is that a non-gamer should never even attempt to actually sell a game. He usually screws up and makes everyone mad in the process. Now, he'll get fewer, I'm willing to bet, purchases of his Jaws-fetishist product than he would have if he'd stuck to his element and just kept slobberi

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Devin Prater
the best, >> >> Dark. >> - Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home >> >> >>> Philip legal

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread john
:07 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home |I bought Q9 several years ago, and had fun playing it. The computer I ran it on isn't functional these days, and I somehow lost track of my authorization key, so it's a shame I'll not be able to p

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Jessica |M
|I bought Q9 several years ago, and had fun playing it. The computer I ran it on isn't functional these days, and I somehow lost track of my authorization key, so it's a shame I'll not be able to play it again unless I want to pay nearly $200, something |I'm not about to do. Firstly, it's bec

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread dark
Well Tom, in that case he can bugger off as well! Ive got half a mind to change the license type to "unknown" for Q9 in the audiogames.net db and put a note to the effect similar to those on the bsc games that the developer, ie, philip is no longer selling the game and it is legally unavailabl

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-07-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. I've read his blog posts regarding Q9 and he sees Q9 as just another piece of software to be purchased and added to his Leasey product. Nothing more, and nothing less. So he does not realize the value of what he owns because as happens all too of

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