Re: [Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread
Hi Josh, Keep in mind you are talking about someone who lives in South Africa not the U.S.A. I am sure they have some sort of training centers for the blind, but pointing him to the centers in the U.S.A. isn't likely to help. Smile. Josh wrote: Hi Nicol, I recommend you go to www.cocenter.org and www.blindinc.org and get in touch with the people there. Nicol, you are an adult and if you want the screen turned off you can turn it off and if people put up or give you krap tell them to go to you-know-where. You're 31 years old or so. You control your life, not them. I recommend you get yourself to a training center either one of the state ones or one of those two that I mentioned. Josh download Klango, its free at www.klango.net download Vinux at www.vinux.org.uk my twitter is: www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi, Agreed. I often run my desktop with the monitor off for exactly the same reasons you pointed out. If I am the only one using the computer with speech there is no need to have the screen on waisting power, risk ruining the monitor from over use, etc. If anyone like Nicol is asked why his/her monitor is off maybe they should approach it from this angle. As far as someone getting suspicious over a monitor being turned off that's just ridiculous, over bearing, and also disturbing. Anyone who does that is neither your friend or family. What they are is your jailer. No offense. dark wrote: Even though i actually can see and do use a screen on occasion for things like watching films, when i'm merely doing something with speech or audio i always turn my screen off anyway. It saves power and stops my monitor from burning out, -- especially true if i've had my desktop on for an extremely long time listening to audio. Imho there's no point having a monitor on if nobody is using it, especially for a long time. It severely disturbs me that what you privately do in your own home by your own choice is so strictly sensored in this way, especially if you yourself aren't a jahova's witness. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread
well I have never had that issue always got a laptop. if people tell me to shove it just tell them to buy you a computer and put it in your room. and don't use it. in my house there is no issue because all of us have our own system, I have a laptop the others have desktops. At 04:39 a.m. 21/09/2009, you wrote: >Hi Nicol, > >I recommend you go to www.cocenter.org and www.blindinc.org and get in touch >with the people there. Nicol, you are an adult and if you want the screen >turned off you can turn it off and if people put up or give you krap tell them >to go to you-know-where. You're 31 years old or so. You control your life, not >them. I recommend you get yourself to a training center either one of the >state ones or one of those two that I mentioned. > >Josh > >download Klango, its free at www.klango.net >download Vinux at www.vinux.org.uk >my twitter is: www.twitter.com/jkenn337 >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
well we have lcds. no more crts. I do run maintainance on systems with the screen off, I have a laptop here so I obviously can't. however in some cases the system will not boot if a screen is off or there is no mouse. thankfully that is not often. At 03:27 a.m. 21/09/2009, you wrote: >Hi Nicol, >I think you did well confronting the problem instead of sneaking around to do >it. Privacy is important, but having to sneak around is not privacy, it is >their control on you. You confronted them with the facts, you made them >understand that you are going to do this, and they backed down. Now you are no >longer doing something sneaky, and having to find ways to get around these >people. You got my respect and I'm proud of you for handling the situation >straight up. >al > >- Original Message - From: "Nicol" >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:29 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom > > >>The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. >>The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is >>off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. >>She will ask me why my screen is off. >>]she will suspect something. >>Robert Montowski wrote: >>>Hello there, >>>I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot >>>of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. >>>My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: >>>I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. >>>I also played shades of doom. >>>she is a born again christian as am I. >>>she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. >>>here is how I settled the matter. >>>As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. >>>even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. >>>as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound >>>comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I >>>play any game. >>>so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she >>>has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head >>>phones turned way up high. >>>I consider this leveling the playfield. >>>when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she >>>turns her speakers off. >>>I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I >>>am doing. >>>No problem here...grin. >>>religion and computer games can co-exist. >>>Robert >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread
Whilst I agree with what you're saying you're asking the guy to effectively go against his family. Whilst I agree with you for various reasons he may not be able to do it. Yes he is an adult and he should be taking charge of his life. I agree with that totally. It's a question of that against the costs if he does. I'm a strong willed person. If I have to upset someone then yes I'll do it no questions asked and I don't make any exceptions to that rule. Whether it be friend family blood relation or no. if it has to be done then so be it. My life is mine. I am my own master nobody else. I have no qualms with taking action like that if it is so required. But not everybody has the strength of will and character to do that. Which is frustrating but true never the less. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: 20 September 2009 19:59 To: gamers list Subject: [Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread Hi, I know he's in South Africa. During my time at the colorado center I met blind people from all over the world who got sponsored to come here to the center and learn independence skills. So if Nocol wants to he could go to one of those centers. Also if Nicol wants to go but people in his life are preventing him from doing so. I could get Nicol's contact info off list, give it to the centers, and they could take it from there. If necessary get the government of his country involved. Nicol is an adult he can make his own decisions and if his mom can't handle it too bad for her that's her problem, not Nicol's. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.109/2384 - Release Date: 09/20/09 06:22:00 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.109/2384 - Release Date: 09/20/09 06:22:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread
Hi, I know he's in South Africa. During my time at the colorado center I met blind people from all over the world who got sponsored to come here to the center and learn independence skills. So if Nocol wants to he could go to one of those centers. Also if Nicol wants to go but people in his life are preventing him from doing so. I could get Nicol's contact info off list, give it to the centers, and they could take it from there. If necessary get the government of his country involved. Nicol is an adult he can make his own decisions and if his mom can't handle it too bad for her that's her problem, not Nicol's. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
As I have a laptop I set my brightness both on battery and plugged in to 0%. This is for the same reasons. I have light perception only so rely on JAWS to convey information. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Yahoo! Messenger: christopher...@yahoo.com Klango: chrishallsworth -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of ChB Sent: 20 September 2009 7:00 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom It is perfectly normal to turn your monitor off if one is blind. I mean what good would it do? I have mine only turned on if a sighted person is wanting to look up stuff with me, as they cannot follow jaws by sound only. You have your set up the way you are comfortable with, I would not turn it on just so they can spy on what you are doing. Everyone is entitled to some privacy. chrissy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 7:09:01 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. _ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090918-0, 18/09/2009 Tested on: 20/09/2009 7:12:08 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
It is perfectly normal to turn your monitor off if one is blind. I mean what good would it do? I have mine only turned on if a sighted person is wanting to look up stuff with me, as they cannot follow jaws by sound only. You have your set up the way you are comfortable with, I would not turn it on just so they can spy on what you are doing. Everyone is entitled to some privacy. chrissy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Then all he's got to do is convince her that there is truth to that. People like that can be extremely stubborn. I've gotten in trouble with things like that myself a few times. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Allison Mervis" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Tell her that it's to help save money on the electric bill. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4441 (20090919) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4441 (20090919) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Tell her that it's to help save money on the electric bill. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4441 (20090919) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4441 (20090919) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread
He's in South Africa, so that wouldn't be an option. I don't know how good facilities for the blind in that area are but since that's a fairly poor region unless I'm mistaken they wouldn't be as good. So he may not have that option. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Josh" To: "gamers list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread Hi Nicol, I recommend you go to www.cocenter.org and www.blindinc.org and get in touch with the people there. Nicol, you are an adult and if you want the screen turned off you can turn it off and if people put up or give you krap tell them to go to you-know-where. You're 31 years old or so. You control your life, not them. I recommend you get yourself to a training center either one of the state ones or one of those two that I mentioned. Josh download Klango, its free at www.klango.net download Vinux at www.vinux.org.uk my twitter is: www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] good news shades of doom thread
Hi Nicol, I recommend you go to www.cocenter.org and www.blindinc.org and get in touch with the people there. Nicol, you are an adult and if you want the screen turned off you can turn it off and if people put up or give you krap tell them to go to you-know-where. You're 31 years old or so. You control your life, not them. I recommend you get yourself to a training center either one of the state ones or one of those two that I mentioned. Josh download Klango, its free at www.klango.net download Vinux at www.vinux.org.uk my twitter is: www.twitter.com/jkenn337 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
THANKS DARK, I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]on Behalf Of dark Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 1:22 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Even though i actually can see and do use a screen on occasion for things like watching films, when i'm merely doing something with speech or audio i always turn my screen off anyway. It saves power and stops my monitor from burning out, -- especially true if i've had my desktop on for an extremely long time listening to audio. Imho there's no point having a monitor on if nobody is using it, especially for a long time. It severely disturbs me that what you privately do in your own home by your own choice is so strictly sensored in this way, especially if you yourself aren't a jahova's witness. Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
THANKS PHIL, WONDERFULL REASONS. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]on Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 2:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi Nicol, There are several good reasons to turn your screen off. 1. You save energy and electricity. 2. You keep the room cooler in the summer as many old CRT monitors generate a lot of heat. 3. You extend the life of the monitor. 4. You get the same amount of privacy as sighted people do when they turn down their sound or don't have a speech program running. If they force you to have your monitor on, then you should force them to use a screen reader so you know what they are doing on their computers. Smiles, Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
If I recall correctly...all laptops have a setting..button..whatever to control the brighteness of the screen. So there is a way to turn the brightness way down as if the screen were offgrin. and this should also extend the battery life on your laptop...give you more time between chargings. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi Nicol, I think you did well confronting the problem instead of sneaking around to do it. Privacy is important, but having to sneak around is not privacy, it is their control on you. You confronted them with the facts, you made them understand that you are going to do this, and they backed down. Now you are no longer doing something sneaky, and having to find ways to get around these people. You got my respect and I'm proud of you for handling the situation straight up. al - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
What's going on at the time is your business, and nobody else's. That's why you turned the monitor off. Privacy. Stop repeat offenders! Don't reelect them! - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi Jason, I am changing the name on the screen of the Sarah game. But during the time when you hear the company logo and the title music the title has to stay what it was, Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry. This is due to how the GMA game engine creates a registration key. If I was to change it to Sarah during that first few seconds, then I would have to send out all new registration keys to everyone who has purchased the game. But you can minimize the time that full game title is on the screen by hitting the control key. This change will happen in the update of the game I am working on and have almost completed. Sincerely, Phil - Original Message - From: "Jason Allen" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Way to go for Phil changing the title of Sarah. In my opinion, a game, a book, a movie - whatever. They're all works of fiction and completely harmless. Jason --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi Nicol, There are several good reasons to turn your screen off. 1. You save energy and electricity. 2. You keep the room cooler in the summer as many old CRT monitors generate a lot of heat. 3. You extend the life of the monitor. 4. You get the same amount of privacy as sighted people do when they turn down their sound or don't have a speech program running. If they force you to have your monitor on, then you should force them to use a screen reader so you know what they are doing on their computers. Smiles, Phil - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Yeah but who cares? You're 31 years of age, not 31 months. There is a very distinct difference. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Nicol Sent: 20 September 2009 11:30 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: > Hello there, > I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot > of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My > experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used > to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. > she is a born again christian as am I. > she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. > here is how I settled the matter. > As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. > even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. > as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound > comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I > play any game. > so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she > has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head > phones turned way up high. > I consider this leveling the playfield. > when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she > turns her speakers off. > I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I > am doing. > No problem here...grin. > religion and computer games can co-exist. > Robert > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.107/2382 - Release Date: 09/20/09 06:22:00 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.107/2382 - Release Date: 09/20/09 06:22:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Quite which to a point I agree with but not to that extent. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 20 September 2009 12:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Well it's a classic case of you live in my home you live by my rules, or at least I get to watch and know everything you do. Not everyone's like that of course but some people definitely are. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom > Even though i actually can see and do use a screen on occasion for > things > like watching films, when i'm merely doing something with speech or audio > i always turn my screen off anyway. It saves power and stops my monitor > from burning out, -- especially true if i've had my desktop on for an > extremely long time listening to audio. > > Imho there's no point having a monitor on if nobody is using it, > especially for a long time. > > It severely disturbs me that what you privately do in your own home by > your own choice is so strictly sensored in this way, especially if > you yourself aren't a jahova's witness. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > - Original Message - > From: "Nicol" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom > > >> The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like >> sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if >> my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my >> clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. >> ]she will suspect something. >> Robert Montowski wrote: >>> Hello there, >>> I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read >>> alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My >>> experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used >>> to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. >>> she is a born again christian as am I. >>> she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. >>> here is how I settled the matter. >>> As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. >>> even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. >>> as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound >>> comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I >>> play any game. >>> so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she >>> has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head >>> phones turned way up high. >>> I consider this leveling the playfield. >>> when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she >>> turns her speakers off. >>> I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I >>> am doing. >>> No problem here...grin. >>> religion and computer games can co-exist. >>> Robert >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your >> subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Well it's a classic case of you live in my home you live by my rules, or at least I get to watch and know everything you do. Not everyone's like that of course but some people definitely are. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Even though i actually can see and do use a screen on occasion for things like watching films, when i'm merely doing something with speech or audio i always turn my screen off anyway. It saves power and stops my monitor from burning out, -- especially true if i've had my desktop on for an extremely long time listening to audio. Imho there's no point having a monitor on if nobody is using it, especially for a long time. It severely disturbs me that what you privately do in your own home by your own choice is so strictly sensored in this way, especially if you yourself aren't a jahova's witness. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Even though i actually can see and do use a screen on occasion for things like watching films, when i'm merely doing something with speech or audio i always turn my screen off anyway. It saves power and stops my monitor from burning out, -- especially true if i've had my desktop on for an extremely long time listening to audio. Imho there's no point having a monitor on if nobody is using it, especially for a long time. It severely disturbs me that what you privately do in your own home by your own choice is so strictly sensored in this way, especially if you yourself aren't a jahova's witness. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
The reason why I cannot turn off my monitor if I play a game like sarah. The people that share the flat with me will get suspicious if my screen is off if for example the lady enters my room to check my clothes etc. She will ask me why my screen is off. ]she will suspect something. Robert Montowski wrote: > Hello there, > I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot > of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. > My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: > I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. > I also played shades of doom. > she is a born again christian as am I. > she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. > here is how I settled the matter. > As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. > even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. > as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound > comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I > play any game. > so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she > has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head > phones turned way up high. > I consider this leveling the playfield. > when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she > turns her speakers off. > I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I > am doing. > No problem here...grin. > religion and computer games can co-exist. > Robert > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Completely agree with this statement. It doesn't matter what you believe in terms of religion but when it gets that far I think something is wrong then. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jason Allen Sent: 20 September 2009 09:27 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Way to go for Phil changing the title of Sarah. In my opinion, a game, a book, a movie - whatever. They're all works of fiction and completely harmless. Jason On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Robert, > Well, I can think of a few instances where you can't just simply turn > off the screen. Many laptops, like mine, don't have a power button for > the display. As a result anything I do can be seen by a sighted party > if he or she decided to look over my shoulder. Smile. > > > Robert Montowski wrote: > >> Hello there, >> I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read >> alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My >> experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used >> to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. >> she is a born again christian as am I. >> she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. >> here is how I settled the matter. >> As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. >> even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. >> as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound >> comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play >> any game. >> so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has >> no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned >> way up high. >> I consider this leveling the playfield. >> when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns >> her speakers off. >> I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am >> doing. >> No problem here...grin. >> religion and computer games can co-exist. >> Robert >> >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your > subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.107/2382 - Release Date: 09/19/09 17:50:00 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.107/2382 - Release Date: 09/20/09 06:22:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Way to go for Phil changing the title of Sarah. In my opinion, a game, a book, a movie - whatever. They're all works of fiction and completely harmless. Jason On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Robert, > Well, I can think of a few instances where you can't just simply turn off > the screen. Many laptops, like mine, don't have a power button for the > display. As a result anything I do can be seen by a sighted party if he or > she decided to look over my shoulder. > Smile. > > > Robert Montowski wrote: > >> Hello there, >> I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of >> old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. >> My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: >> I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. >> I also played shades of doom. >> she is a born again christian as am I. >> she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. >> here is how I settled the matter. >> As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. >> even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. >> as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound >> comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play >> any game. >> so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has >> no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned >> way up high. >> I consider this leveling the playfield. >> when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns >> her speakers off. >> I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am >> doing. >> No problem here...grin. >> religion and computer games can co-exist. >> Robert >> >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi Robert, Well, I can think of a few instances where you can't just simply turn off the screen. Many laptops, like mine, don't have a power button for the display. As a result anything I do can be seen by a sighted party if he or she decided to look over my shoulder. Smile. Robert Montowski wrote: Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Yeah but I'd do it anyway if I'm honest. When you're an adult you have the right to do that. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 18 September 2009 23:55 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi Allison, He is an adult, but age really isn't the issue here. Apparently from what I gather regardless of his age his mother tries to control him, boss him around, and tell him what to do. Especially, when a game, book, or something offends her religious views. For most of us we move away from home, get a job, and when a parent or in-laws try to tell us what to do we can tell them "bite me" and that will be the end of it. I guess he still lives with or near enough to his mother that she still has a controlling influence on his life so telling her to "go jump in a river" isn't feasible. Allison Mervis wrote: > UmThat's great, but how old are you? > Allison > http://www.allisonmervis.com/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.105/2380 - Release Date: 09/18/09 07:49:00 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.416 / Virus Database: 270.13.105/2380 - Release Date: 09/19/09 06:03:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
hello. that's great that you can now play shades of doomb. it is nice your mum finally saw the point of the game. i have not played this yet, but maybe i'll have to give it a go the road to happiness is long and lined with anoying bastards -- From: "Nicol" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:34 PM To: "gamers" Subject: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi all I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom is ok for me to play. She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer violence. I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday evening and we talked about games. I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to him in detail. and he told me about his games. He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. He once had the x box but it was too expensive. Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is fighting. So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each person must decide according to his conscience. So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the street. I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have to kill creatures. She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. I will try to translate her words into English. "now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am playing if they see the title on my screen. Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for me such as doing the cooking. So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. Spoiler space And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his coming update. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi Nicol, I know exactly what it feels like to have an overbearing mother/ family. That control issue gets even worse when there is a handicap involved. I commend you on handaling such a situation with careful consideration. I would have flown off the handle but you sound like you really handled yourself with a mature yet respectful attitude. I'm impressed and thank you for sharing that. al - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "gamers" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi all I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom is ok for me to play. She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer violence. I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday evening and we talked about games. I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to him in detail. and he told me about his games. He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. He once had the x box but it was too expensive. Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is fighting. So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each person must decide according to his conscience. So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the street. I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have to kill creatures. She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. I will try to translate her words into English. "now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am playing if they see the title on my screen. Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for me such as doing the cooking. So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. Spoiler space And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his coming update. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hello there, I came into this thread a bit late...so I had to go back and read alot of old messages to get the feel for what is going on here. My experience to some of what is being discussed goes like this: I used to live with a girlfriend in my house. I also played shades of doom. she is a born again christian as am I. she was a bit miffed I was playing this shooting game. here is how I settled the matter. As I am totally blind..I turned my monitor off. even if she walks by my open door, she will not know what I am doing. as many of these games are very specific about what direction a sound comes at you from, I got a very nice pair of headphones to wear when I play any game. so once again, even when she is standing in my room talking to me..she has no idea what I am doing unless I have the volume on the head phones turned way up high. I consider this leveling the playfield. when she is on her computer I have no idea what she is doing as she turns her speakers off. I can't see or hear what she is doing and she can't see or hear what I am doing. No problem here...grin. religion and computer games can co-exist. Robert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
If you are not a Jehovah's Witness, and you are an adult, your wish should be your command, so to speak, as long as there is no harm in your choices, particularly when it comes to playing computer games. The fact that you can now play SOD is very good news. Stop repeat offenders! Don't reelect them! - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom I am 31. My mom never think that I am a child, its because she is a Jehovah witness. It all goes about religion, certain games like violence and magic is forbidden for the Jehovah witnesses and my mom tried for many years to force me into the Jehovah witness religion. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]on Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:37 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom UmThat's great, but how old are you? Allison --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
well I have a religious christian uncle that I talk about games. entombed does sound a bit evil. Though I talked of that in the dnd style of stuff. I have a friend heavily into this religious thing that played dnd and so I understand this type which is what entombed is like. At 10:34 a.m. 19/09/2009, you wrote: >Hi all >I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom >is ok for me to play. >She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer >violence. >I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. >me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday >evening and we talked about games. >I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to >him in detail. and he told me about his games. >He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. >He once had the x box but it was too expensive. >Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. >But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his >pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. > The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is >fighting. >So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays >with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. >So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad >does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each >person must decide according to his conscience. >So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the >street. >I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters >similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. >I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to >collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have >to kill creatures. >She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. >So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. >I will try to translate her words into English. >"now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." >So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am >playing if they see the title on my screen. >Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for >me such as doing the cooking. >So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have >explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. >Spoiler >space >And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates >magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching >the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only >sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his >coming update. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
That is good news. I actually had a girlfriend who, thought not of the same religious persuasion, used to have those beliefs or very similar ones. Of course she does seem to have calmed down in that area lately. But she would have done the same things when we were together had I given her the opportunity. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "gamers" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi all I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom is ok for me to play. She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer violence. I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday evening and we talked about games. I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to him in detail. and he told me about his games. He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. He once had the x box but it was too expensive. Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is fighting. So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each person must decide according to his conscience. So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the street. I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have to kill creatures. She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. I will try to translate her words into English. "now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am playing if they see the title on my screen. Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for me such as doing the cooking. So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. Spoiler space And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his coming update. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
I completely understand. Please know that my question wasn't meant to offend or cause any kind of controversy. This kind of situation is unfortunately something which I encounter every day as part of my job. There are tactful ways of telling her to go jump in a river without saying it outright. However, that's beyond the scope of this list, so I won't elaborate further. http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi Allison, He is an adult, but age really isn't the issue here. Apparently from what I gather regardless of his age his mother tries to control him, boss him around, and tell him what to do. Especially, when a game, book, or something offends her religious views. For most of us we move away from home, get a job, and when a parent or in-laws try to tell us what to do we can tell them "bite me" and that will be the end of it. I guess he still lives with or near enough to his mother that she still has a controlling influence on his life so telling her to "go jump in a river" isn't feasible. Allison Mervis wrote: UmThat's great, but how old are you? Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4439 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4439 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Well good for you for fighting back however you can. Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom I am 31. My mom never think that I am a child, its because she is a Jehovah witness. It all goes about religion, certain games like violence and magic is forbidden for the Jehovah witnesses and my mom tried for many years to force me into the Jehovah witness religion. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]on Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:37 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom UmThat's great, but how old are you? Allison --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4438 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4439 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi Allison, He is an adult, but age really isn't the issue here. Apparently from what I gather regardless of his age his mother tries to control him, boss him around, and tell him what to do. Especially, when a game, book, or something offends her religious views. For most of us we move away from home, get a job, and when a parent or in-laws try to tell us what to do we can tell them "bite me" and that will be the end of it. I guess he still lives with or near enough to his mother that she still has a controlling influence on his life so telling her to "go jump in a river" isn't feasible. Allison Mervis wrote: UmThat's great, but how old are you? Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
I am 31. My mom never think that I am a child, its because she is a Jehovah witness. It all goes about religion, certain games like violence and magic is forbidden for the Jehovah witnesses and my mom tried for many years to force me into the Jehovah witness religion. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]on Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 12:37 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom UmThat's great, but how old are you? Allison --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi Nicol, Smile. I'm glad you won this small victory. Since my in-laws' opinions are similar to your mother's opinions I know all too well how hard it is to get people like that to see your point of view. Cheers! Nicol wrote: Hi all I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom is ok for me to play. She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer violence. I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday evening and we talked about games. I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to him in detail. and he told me about his games. He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. He once had the x box but it was too expensive. Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is fighting. So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each person must decide according to his conscience. So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the street. I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have to kill creatures. She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. I will try to translate her words into English. "now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am playing if they see the title on my screen. Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for me such as doing the cooking. So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. Spoiler space And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his coming update. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
it's not age that's the issue. At 08:37 AM 19/09/2009, you wrote: UmThat's great, but how old are you? Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "gamers" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi all I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom is ok for me to play. She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer violence. I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday evening and we talked about games. I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to him in detail. and he told me about his games. He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. He once had the x box but it was too expensive. Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is fighting. So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each person must decide according to his conscience. So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the street. I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have to kill creatures. She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. I will try to translate her words into English. "now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am playing if they see the title on my screen. Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for me such as doing the cooking. So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. Spoiler space And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his coming update. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4438 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4438 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
UmThat's great, but how old are you? Allison http://www.allisonmervis.com/ - Original Message - From: "Nicol" To: "gamers" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: [Audyssey] good news: shades of doom Hi all I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom is ok for me to play. She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer violence. I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday evening and we talked about games. I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to him in detail. and he told me about his games. He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. He once had the x box but it was too expensive. Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is fighting. So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each person must decide according to his conscience. So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the street. I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have to kill creatures. She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. I will try to translate her words into English. "now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am playing if they see the title on my screen. Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for me such as doing the cooking. So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. Spoiler space And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his coming update. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4438 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4438 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] good news: shades of doom
Hi all I am pleased to announce that my mom has at last agreed that shades of doom is ok for me to play. She has tried to forbid me for years to play sod as she felt its sheer violence. I will tell how it came to be that my mom has softened her view about sod. me and a friend of mine were having a pizza at a restaurant yesterday evening and we talked about games. I told this friend about the audio games I am playing, I described pipe2 to him in detail. and he told me about his games. He told me that he is currently playing mainstream games made for the pc. He once had the x box but it was too expensive. Each game on the x box costs 500 south african rand. But this friend told me about ashooting game that he bought himself for his pc, called unreal tournament where there is a lot of shooting involved. The game consist of different missions/tasks but the main objective is fighting. So I asked him whether his dad is ok with the game he is playing as he stays with his family and they are also Jehovah witnesses, he told me yes. So today I spoke to my mom about this friend's game, telling her his dad does not have a problem with him playhing it. and she told me that each person must decide according to his conscience. So I described shades of doom to my mom in the language of the man on the street. I told my mom that in shades of doom I do not kill people, I kill monsters similar to prehistoric monsters such as dinosaurs. I told her about the experiment that went wrong and that my mission is to collect wafers to shut down the experiment and to collect the wafers I have to kill creatures. She asked if there is blood in the sod game and I answered no. So eventually she agreed that its not harmfull to me. I will try to translate her words into English. "now I agree a game of erasing monsters is not that bad." So now I can freelly play shades of doom without anybody asking me what I am playing if they see the title on my screen. Because I share my flat with a couple, my mom's friends, and they care for me such as doing the cooking. So if they have any questions, I will just explain to them how I have explained to my mom and that its ok with her for me to play sod. Spoiler space And I can also now play sarah soon even though my mom and her friends hates magic games . so soon I can also now freely play sarah without them watching the screen due to the fact that phil will change the screen name to only sarah instead of sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry in his coming update. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
